| Plaid Cymru manifesto 17:53 - Jul 10 with 2214 views | johnlangy |
I went to Sioned William's surgery today to make a suggestion to her about their manifesto for next year's Senedd election. The subject generally was about the completely unfair way in which the Senedd invests in Wales with Cardiff, as usual, having money lavished on it while the rest of Wales stagnates.
I talked, as one example, about investment rail infrastructure.
South East Wales Metro £1.2 billion and rising
The five Burns stations £300 million
1st stage of Cardiff Crossrail (tram) £100,million
Meanwhile -
Swansea and South West Wales metro Plans
North East Wales metro Plans
Everywhere else Plans
I suggested that Plaid include a policy in their manifesto stating that they would reverse the unfairness of the last 25 years and basically do a Boris Johnson - in other words levelling up.
She said that it this is something that Plaid completely agrees with.
So, I told her that whenever there is a thread on this site (and every other site I read) that talks about this subject everyone who responds is up in arms about the unfairness and are completely disillusioned with the way Labour have been so biased toward the South East for the last 25 years.
I suggested to her that there are very many people not only on this site but all around the ignored three quarters of Wales that would love to see a commitment in their manifesto to start to correct these wrongs. And knowing that the other main parties would never address this issue then those people could be persuaded to vote for Plaid.
I also said that if they were to win power next year the only way they would manage to get in for a second term would be if they actually do what they say they would do. A novel idea for a political party.
A number of you have said previously that you were seriously thinking about voting Plaid or actually going to vote Plaid next year
Let me know your thoughts and ideas which i'm going to make a point of passing on to her.
Apologies that i've rushed this a bit so the wording isn't the best. |  | | |  |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:15 - Jul 12 with 642 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 13:16 - Jul 12 by Flashberryjack |
Whilst the UK sinks with the influx of illegal and legal migrants, she declares that Wales is a country of sanctuary, you couldn't make it up. |
It was a decent position of principle in the 1980s and before. The USA and Isreal set out deliberately destabilizing numerous Muslim dictatorships creating millions of displaced people simple to serve the interests of greater Israel and their settler footsoldiers.
Labour support bombing Gaza and Labour offers sanctuary to the b people bombed with British armaments from Isreali jets.
She needs to look at things holistically.. it is 2025 not 1990s.
Turkiye is repatriating refugees and their children back to Syria as their country is not run by lawyers. [Post edited 12 Jul 14:25]
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:51 - Jul 12 with 630 views | union_jack |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:07 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are a Unionist and against any for of Welsh self rule. Using flags as your logo tells us this. This is why you are on this forum.
The trouble with such posters is when they combine it with second city syndrome and football anti Cardiff rhetoric I they can be just plain anti Welsh while living in Wales. At least the ex Copper throw his disdain from.over the river Dee.
Such posters become advocates for Welsh surrender and forcing people to travel Bristol airport for example and losing jobs around Barry where there is a great facility just looking for cash investment and expansion.
Kindly |
First sentence, spot on yes. And I do like the flag.
But have you thought that I have it as an avatar because of my user name? Just a thought😏 |  |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 15:15 - Jul 12 with 613 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:07 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are a Unionist and against any for of Welsh self rule. Using flags as your logo tells us this. This is why you are on this forum.
The trouble with such posters is when they combine it with second city syndrome and football anti Cardiff rhetoric I they can be just plain anti Welsh while living in Wales. At least the ex Copper throw his disdain from.over the river Dee.
Such posters become advocates for Welsh surrender and forcing people to travel Bristol airport for example and losing jobs around Barry where there is a great facility just looking for cash investment and expansion.
Kindly |
This is your new "thing" then is it?
You are talking through your derriere but it's your right in the country we live in, free speech and all that.
You say you are proud to be Welsh and British but slag off anybody who actually displays that pride as "anti Welsh"
The hypocrisy is strong with this one, Obi Wan. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 16:37 - Jul 12 with 580 views | Togg |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:07 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are a Unionist and against any for of Welsh self rule. Using flags as your logo tells us this. This is why you are on this forum.
The trouble with such posters is when they combine it with second city syndrome and football anti Cardiff rhetoric I they can be just plain anti Welsh while living in Wales. At least the ex Copper throw his disdain from.over the river Dee.
Such posters become advocates for Welsh surrender and forcing people to travel Bristol airport for example and losing jobs around Barry where there is a great facility just looking for cash investment and expansion.
Kindly |
What a load of absolute guff!! I dislike Cardiff both Rugby and football but one of my best mates is from the diff. I've actually christened him an honary Jack now. Still tell him how I despise the buggers. As for travelling from Bristol airport. Better times, cheaper flights and the airport is teeming with Welsh accents. Work that one out. Again I will be flying to Malaga in October from Brizzle | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 16:50 - Jul 12 with 573 views | onehunglow |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 16:37 - Jul 12 by Togg |
What a load of absolute guff!! I dislike Cardiff both Rugby and football but one of my best mates is from the diff. I've actually christened him an honary Jack now. Still tell him how I despise the buggers. As for travelling from Bristol airport. Better times, cheaper flights and the airport is teeming with Welsh accents. Work that one out. Again I will be flying to Malaga in October from Brizzle |
He's had a up at me over my twenty years on this site
His posts Ivecdescribed many times previously
There is a theme
Welsh surrender
Look at the state we're in
Pure blood lines , proper Welsh, no mixing of English and Welsh
Narrow valleys, narrow minds
Get out before they kill you | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:03 - Jul 12 with 546 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 16:50 - Jul 12 by onehunglow |
He's had a up at me over my twenty years on this site
His posts Ivecdescribed many times previously
There is a theme
Welsh surrender
Look at the state we're in
Pure blood lines , proper Welsh, no mixing of English and Welsh
Narrow valleys, narrow minds
Get out before they kill you |
Not true actually. I only came here after the previous owner left and his pack dogs were removed forcibly from this site. There was some bloke on there with similar view to me but it was not me.
I believe in supporting local people and local jobs in Wales. CWL supports 4000 jobs and has a good potential for growth.
I fly from Bristol occasionally but prefer not to.. | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:17 - Jul 12 with 540 views | Togg |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:03 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not true actually. I only came here after the previous owner left and his pack dogs were removed forcibly from this site. There was some bloke on there with similar view to me but it was not me.
I believe in supporting local people and local jobs in Wales. CWL supports 4000 jobs and has a good potential for growth.
I fly from Bristol occasionally but prefer not to.. |
It's all about the product, demand and supply. Early 2000s BMI Baby from Cardiff always first choice. However for various airports to Southern Spain and Balerics it's been mostly Bristol with the odd trip from Brum | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:20 - Jul 12 with 537 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:03 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not true actually. I only came here after the previous owner left and his pack dogs were removed forcibly from this site. There was some bloke on there with similar view to me but it was not me.
I believe in supporting local people and local jobs in Wales. CWL supports 4000 jobs and has a good potential for growth.
I fly from Bristol occasionally but prefer not to.. |
If CWL had good potential then all the money the Senedd has pumped in should be showing better results, don't you think?
Now that Bristol has mounted a legal challenge to the public money shoring up CWL things may change.
The Senedd wants CWL because it's Cardiff, not because it's good for Wales. Has Resolven benefitted from any Senedd support? | | | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:40 - Jul 12 with 510 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:20 - Jul 12 by SullutaCreturned |
If CWL had good potential then all the money the Senedd has pumped in should be showing better results, don't you think?
Now that Bristol has mounted a legal challenge to the public money shoring up CWL things may change.
The Senedd wants CWL because it's Cardiff, not because it's good for Wales. Has Resolven benefitted from any Senedd support? |
It is 45 mins from Swansea and 25 mins from Cardiff more or less. There is a lot to be done. The £200m is investment not subsidy. £200m over ten years. Per head £7 per year. Cheap for a national airport. Pennies for the taxpayer.
Bristol would not be going to court if Cardiff's prospect were bad. | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:59 - Jul 12 with 499 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:40 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is 45 mins from Swansea and 25 mins from Cardiff more or less. There is a lot to be done. The £200m is investment not subsidy. £200m over ten years. Per head £7 per year. Cheap for a national airport. Pennies for the taxpayer.
Bristol would not be going to court if Cardiff's prospect were bad. |
Investment, subsidy, call it what you will (and both words are used here, https://www.gov.wales/written-statement-update-welsh-government-investment-packa
The fact is well over 200 million has and is being given to CWL.
Bristil is going to court because the Senedd's subsidy, according to them, breaks comoetition rules and is unfair.
Without that money CWL's prospects are very bad, they already lose money on every passenger through the airport. If Bristol wins it could be the death knell for CWL. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 18:08 - Jul 12 with 472 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:59 - Jul 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Investment, subsidy, call it what you will (and both words are used here, https://www.gov.wales/written-statement-update-welsh-government-investment-packa
The fact is well over 200 million has and is being given to CWL.
Bristil is going to court because the Senedd's subsidy, according to them, breaks comoetition rules and is unfair.
Without that money CWL's prospects are very bad, they already lose money on every passenger through the airport. If Bristol wins it could be the death knell for CWL. |
£200m is being invested. If CWL closes it is the death knell for 4000 Welsh jobs. There is no free lunch. We live in a capitalist society and surrender means death poverty and industrial decline. the
Fight (figuratively) or die. I see Togg as a Swansea boy wearing a Liverpool top. Supporting the superior English team ( Bristol Airport) rather than his local airport which is much cheaper to get to and a much nicer experience but lacking local support.. | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 21:48 - Jul 12 with 409 views | max936 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 17:40 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is 45 mins from Swansea and 25 mins from Cardiff more or less. There is a lot to be done. The £200m is investment not subsidy. £200m over ten years. Per head £7 per year. Cheap for a national airport. Pennies for the taxpayer.
Bristol would not be going to court if Cardiff's prospect were bad. |
Just disappear sunshine you're an embarrassment. |  |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 22:03 - Jul 12 with 385 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 18:08 - Jul 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
£200m is being invested. If CWL closes it is the death knell for 4000 Welsh jobs. There is no free lunch. We live in a capitalist society and surrender means death poverty and industrial decline. the
Fight (figuratively) or die. I see Togg as a Swansea boy wearing a Liverpool top. Supporting the superior English team ( Bristol Airport) rather than his local airport which is much cheaper to get to and a much nicer experience but lacking local support.. |
Do you see the irony there, the Senedd must invest but we live in a capitalist society?
In a true capotalist society the government doesn't support an ailing business.
If CWL closes I doubt all 4000 jobs would go, it's impossible to say exactly how mnay would to be honest.
My big problem is the growing number of businesses the Senedd has thrown its weight behind that have failed and cost Wales many billions. Then they refuse to invest in areas away from Cardiff leaving those areas to stagnate, North Wales has been treated awfully. Our roads infrastructure is failing slowly but surely and they want to go carbon neutral but pump money into an airport!
How you see Togg cust no ice with me
PS, if there is no free lunch then why is CWL getting a free lunch, tax payers money propping up a loss making business that would be bankrupt by now if not for tax payers money. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 22:24 - Jul 12 with 365 views | Dr_Winston |
As you can imagine, the Senedd's decision to keep throwing good money after bad in an effort to maintain the pretence that Cardiff is a major International City with its own airport and everything hasn't gone down well with Wales beyond the CF postcode.
I saw a post on Twitter from someone living in the Wrexham area who was quite scathing. Obviously anyone living an hour North of Cardiff can easily use Birmingham instead. Those even further away have access to Liverpool or Manchester.
Under no circumstances should more Welsh taxpayers money be pissed away in an effort to make Bassey's feel better about themselves. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 22:40 - Jul 12 with 356 views | max936 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 22:03 - Jul 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Do you see the irony there, the Senedd must invest but we live in a capitalist society?
In a true capotalist society the government doesn't support an ailing business.
If CWL closes I doubt all 4000 jobs would go, it's impossible to say exactly how mnay would to be honest.
My big problem is the growing number of businesses the Senedd has thrown its weight behind that have failed and cost Wales many billions. Then they refuse to invest in areas away from Cardiff leaving those areas to stagnate, North Wales has been treated awfully. Our roads infrastructure is failing slowly but surely and they want to go carbon neutral but pump money into an airport!
How you see Togg cust no ice with me
PS, if there is no free lunch then why is CWL getting a free lunch, tax payers money propping up a loss making business that would be bankrupt by now if not for tax payers money. |
He didn't give a monkeys toss about the employees of Tata who were losing their jobs, he's an attention seeker who beats his own pathetic drum to create attention to himself and gain a reaction, sad little man. | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 11:51 - Jul 13 with 261 views | SullutaCreturned |
The trans thing, when Plaid say that then attribute it to them.
The taxes, we have a deficit and a rising debt pile, the options are limited. We have to cut spending or riase taxes, otherwise that means more borrowing which only makes the problem worse.
The weight needs to be spread out, everyone needs to contribute, the richest can afford to pay a bit more. The top 1% have 95% of the worlds wealth, that is just wrong.
https://www.oxfam.org.uk/media/press-releases/worlds-top-1-own-more-wealth-than- | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:43 - Jul 14 with 182 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 22:24 - Jul 12 by Dr_Winston |
As you can imagine, the Senedd's decision to keep throwing good money after bad in an effort to maintain the pretence that Cardiff is a major International City with its own airport and everything hasn't gone down well with Wales beyond the CF postcode.
I saw a post on Twitter from someone living in the Wrexham area who was quite scathing. Obviously anyone living an hour North of Cardiff can easily use Birmingham instead. Those even further away have access to Liverpool or Manchester.
Under no circumstances should more Welsh taxpayers money be pissed away in an effort to make Bassey's feel better about themselves. |
I have never seen a "Dr" as parochial as you. Even the TfL has had subsidies but you would not go after them.
A massive and I mean massive Public support. ( Cross rail £20 billion) now called Queen Elisabeth line.
Bristol Airport want to kill off CWL and you support them. If you are from Swnsea. it is a 45 min journey to CWL and 2 hours to Bristol. You have paid £7 a year in tax. One Air Taxi Wales to Bristol and you get it all back in one trip. Swansea to Bristol taxi around £200.
To many people have no stomach to fight sadly. Roll over and pay extra. Wales has already given away 1000s of jobs by supporting Brexit. | |
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| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 15:07 - Jul 14 with 161 views | Togg |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:43 - Jul 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have never seen a "Dr" as parochial as you. Even the TfL has had subsidies but you would not go after them.
A massive and I mean massive Public support. ( Cross rail £20 billion) now called Queen Elisabeth line.
Bristol Airport want to kill off CWL and you support them. If you are from Swnsea. it is a 45 min journey to CWL and 2 hours to Bristol. You have paid £7 a year in tax. One Air Taxi Wales to Bristol and you get it all back in one trip. Swansea to Bristol taxi around £200.
To many people have no stomach to fight sadly. Roll over and pay extra. Wales has already given away 1000s of jobs by supporting Brexit. |
I've said and say it again. The product in Bristol is far superior especially for a Southern Spain flight. Better times, better prices...more of them. Supply and demand I'm afraid . That's why swathes of Welsh holiday makers go there. I know of a few who don't mind paying the extra from Cardiff because of the distance factor and it's a much quieter airport. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 15:24 - Jul 14 with 133 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru manifesto on 14:43 - Jul 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have never seen a "Dr" as parochial as you. Even the TfL has had subsidies but you would not go after them.
A massive and I mean massive Public support. ( Cross rail £20 billion) now called Queen Elisabeth line.
Bristol Airport want to kill off CWL and you support them. If you are from Swnsea. it is a 45 min journey to CWL and 2 hours to Bristol. You have paid £7 a year in tax. One Air Taxi Wales to Bristol and you get it all back in one trip. Swansea to Bristol taxi around £200.
To many people have no stomach to fight sadly. Roll over and pay extra. Wales has already given away 1000s of jobs by supporting Brexit. |
TFL receives grants, yes. it is an essential business though, public transport is an essential need in this country. Subsidisng flights abroad isn't. The Senedd sunsidises trains in Wales too and we don't attack that (apart from criticisng it being Cardiff centric) or subsidies to other UK public transport.
Bristol airport sees what cardiff gets as unfair competition, if we were still in the EU they wouldn't be allowed to own and subsidise CWL.
That third paragraph, CWL doesn't operate air taxis, that is just irrelevant waffle.
It's not about a fight but then, we are fighting to stop wasting Welsh money, you are fighting to throw good money after bad.
Wales has given thousands of jobs away because of Breit you say, well in 2015 unemployment was 6'5%, this year it is 3.5%. We seem to have gained jobs. | | | |
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