| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... 21:55 - Aug 12 with 8759 views | qpr_1968 |
the players....
the manager...
the ref...
the club....
i know who it was'nt down to....
the 1'000 or so hardy supporters who gave their all to get us into the next round.... |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:05 - Aug 12 with 1691 views | mart_Goblin |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:52 - Aug 12 by A40Bosh |
Here is your answer
He cannot even hide the smirk.
The project dictated that team selection tonight not him |
He looks over the moon
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:09 - Aug 12 with 1656 views | ozexile |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:50 - Aug 12 by JamesB1979 |
I think you should listen to Clive’s preview of the championship. There are quite a few clubs who are in a lot more trouble than us and going nowhere. I’m a bit torn on tonight but if we sign Kone to add to Poku, Dembele, Chair, Burrell (really like look of him), we’ve got some exciting forward talent. |
You're torn on tonight? I grew up on this club trying to win football matches. I'd like us to try and be that club again. That's fine to get excited about signings. Let Nourry distract you with signings and cliches and the futures golden etc etc. we're a shambles. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:11 - Aug 12 with 1635 views | HammersmithR |
It is pretty evident that Stephan is Nourry’s puppet. He’s told what to do. I can’t believe he has accepted such a role. Anymore decades of this nature and the tide will turn very quickly on the coach and Nourry…again! So frustrating our club at times and we are our own worst enemy. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:13 - Aug 12 with 1589 views | stainrods_elbow |
'100% a good decision' to go with that team, according to the manager. Put that in your pipe, Nourry-haters! Our manager's completely on board with the project.
Words fail me! It's basically professional corruption, isn't it!
Quelle horreur! [Post edited 12 Aug 23:24]
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:19 - Aug 12 with 1559 views | strikerace |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:13 - Aug 12 by stainrods_elbow |
'100% a good decision' to go with that team, according to the manager. Put that in your pipe, Nourry-haters! Our manager's completely on board with the project.
Words fail me! It's basically professional corruption, isn't it!
Quelle horreur! [Post edited 12 Aug 23:24]
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Yep, certainly sounds like they think winning was a secondary consideration to just giving the youngsters a chance to play | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:19 - Aug 12 with 1558 views | JamesB1979 |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:08 - Aug 12 by qprd |
If you want to know anything abt Christian nourru and his character, just see what he said abt marti being responsible for the injuries last season at the fans forum
Everyone knows the board backed the wrong person there
Yet marti left without saying a word
The fact that Nourry continues to slag him off in such a cowardly way tells you the kind of human being he is.. it’s a shame Beale wasn’t manager under him bc they’re too pieces of pond scum cut from the same cloth.
The fact that he has anything to do with this team sickens me to me my core and part of me roots ifor us to fail to see this huckster out of a job
Only a nepo baby like Ruben could hire such an idiot |
Let me get this straight, you would rather we do badly just so the club gets rid of someone you don’t like? That’s absolutely ridiculous. I’ve heard some fans say they wish we lose next game to get such and such manager out but that’s 1 game. Your comment is absolutely mental. How can you hate a guy so much that you’d wish your club do badly. So desperate to prove a point? [Post edited 12 Aug 23:22]
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:22 - Aug 12 with 1546 views | HAMRanger |
A lot of injuries!? |  | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:28 - Aug 12 with 1505 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:54 - Aug 12 by Whip_It |
If you read Dave M, he mentions that blooding youngsters at an artificially young age gets their value up. It's clear that our manager was following Nourry's policy here, and hence the result. |
He has to do a few puff peices to get anything out of the club these days.
Last year he got zip. So given he's a QPR Journo it puts him in a bit of a spot. | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:50 - Aug 12 with 1388 views | ted_hendrix |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:48 - Aug 12 by A40Bosh |
It is too early to tell if he is a tit or a genius and whether this disruptive change will actually break 10+ years of stagnation and we are actually being dragged through change that will bring success in 3-5 years - or - which is more probable we will still end up where we are in another 10 years and CN has moved on to some other career entirely before he is 40 |
Okay, points taken on board but, second game of the season and we're asking who's this disaster down to and as far as some/most of the comments I've read It's Nourry's fault.
Posters are posting that Nourry Is picking the team or being involved In picking the team, not a chance In hell Is that the case, unless someone can lay on me some stone cold facts that Nourry Is involved with team selection then fair enough.
We've signed tonight what appears to be the best thing to come out of league One In a long time, that's cheered me up no end.
Tonight's result Is history |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:53 - Aug 12 with 1365 views | JamesB1979 |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:50 - Aug 12 by ted_hendrix |
Okay, points taken on board but, second game of the season and we're asking who's this disaster down to and as far as some/most of the comments I've read It's Nourry's fault.
Posters are posting that Nourry Is picking the team or being involved In picking the team, not a chance In hell Is that the case, unless someone can lay on me some stone cold facts that Nourry Is involved with team selection then fair enough.
We've signed tonight what appears to be the best thing to come out of league One In a long time, that's cheered me up no end.
Tonight's result Is history |
Agree. It’s mental. Someone even wants us to do badly so Nourry gets sacked. I just can’t understand it. Let’s hope we don’t get beat on Saturday though…. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:53 - Aug 12 with 1364 views | HAMRanger |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:50 - Aug 12 by ted_hendrix |
Okay, points taken on board but, second game of the season and we're asking who's this disaster down to and as far as some/most of the comments I've read It's Nourry's fault.
Posters are posting that Nourry Is picking the team or being involved In picking the team, not a chance In hell Is that the case, unless someone can lay on me some stone cold facts that Nourry Is involved with team selection then fair enough.
We've signed tonight what appears to be the best thing to come out of league One In a long time, that's cheered me up no end.
Tonight's result Is history |
I bet no one can tell you facts about Noury picking the team! I challenge anyone! | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:59 - Aug 12 with 1310 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:53 - Aug 12 by HAMRanger |
I bet no one can tell you facts about Noury picking the team! I challenge anyone! |
Which makes it worse if anything, as it means our manager is more than a few French fries short of a picnic. | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:04 - Aug 13 with 1312 views | mart_Goblin |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:19 - Aug 12 by strikerace |
Yep, certainly sounds like they think winning was a secondary consideration to just giving the youngsters a chance to play |
Certainly does and as pointed out by many , no one really mentioned ‘winning football matches ‘ at the fans forum .
The head coach seems to be fully on board with this at the moment or he is the best actor to come out of France in a while .
Have some self respect for god sake .
It could do irreparable damage to his career if he doesn’t start doing things his way .
He may well have picked that team tonight but his interview told you absolutely everything about the process he ‘has’ to follow .
Little bit embarrassed and very worried | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:17 - Aug 13 with 1265 views | Hooparoo |
What an insult to all the fans who paid to travel to watch that sh!t. Brings the whole club into disrepute. |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:18 - Aug 13 with 1259 views | Hunterhoop |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:54 - Aug 12 by Whip_It |
If you read Dave M, he mentions that blooding youngsters at an artificially young age gets their value up. It's clear that our manager was following Nourry's policy here, and hence the result. |
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
The project supersedes results. Go back and read Clive’s recent pieces, and all the references to short vs long term. Listen to Dave Mc (well, read between his lines). It’s there if you are willing to see it.
Now, whether you like that or not is a different question.
The goal of the club at the minute is to establish a player trading model where we make profit. Not as an aside to trying to field the strongest squad for this season and compete…but as the primary goal. Secondary is getting results, with a caveat that we need to stay in the league.
I believe Nourry will be selling this as the only way the club can gradually build up an income to compete in this league and eventually go up. In some ways that makes sense. It is how Brentford did it. BUT they did get results on the pitch each season, were regularly top half and improved. This is the balance Nourry talks of himself. I suspect Nourry has a personal reason he wants to take this approach. If he can demonstrate how he spent X and sold for Y during his time here to make a profit, and how the players he signed went onto better things, all using a data driven approach, he positions himself for a DOF at a bigger club. It’s likely more achievable than getting us promoted. Cifuentes wasn’t the only ambitious one. Nourry is not here for the very long term, girls and boys, not if he can help it. |  | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:25 - Aug 13 with 1210 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:18 - Aug 13 by Hunterhoop |
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
The project supersedes results. Go back and read Clive’s recent pieces, and all the references to short vs long term. Listen to Dave Mc (well, read between his lines). It’s there if you are willing to see it.
Now, whether you like that or not is a different question.
The goal of the club at the minute is to establish a player trading model where we make profit. Not as an aside to trying to field the strongest squad for this season and compete…but as the primary goal. Secondary is getting results, with a caveat that we need to stay in the league.
I believe Nourry will be selling this as the only way the club can gradually build up an income to compete in this league and eventually go up. In some ways that makes sense. It is how Brentford did it. BUT they did get results on the pitch each season, were regularly top half and improved. This is the balance Nourry talks of himself. I suspect Nourry has a personal reason he wants to take this approach. If he can demonstrate how he spent X and sold for Y during his time here to make a profit, and how the players he signed went onto better things, all using a data driven approach, he positions himself for a DOF at a bigger club. It’s likely more achievable than getting us promoted. Cifuentes wasn’t the only ambitious one. Nourry is not here for the very long term, girls and boys, not if he can help it. |
There is no bigger advocate of the long term plan than me.
But this was such an obvious open goal for the club. Being in charge of a QPR team that endeavours to advance in the cup with it’s strongest team would remove so many monkeys on so many backs.
Blood one or two youngsters at a time in league games like they did with Esquerdinha v Preston. So much good will thrown away that these youngsters will need in the REALLY dark days that might be waiting for us.
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:31 - Aug 13 with 1199 views | joolsyp |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:53 - Aug 12 by HAMRanger |
I bet no one can tell you facts about Noury picking the team! I challenge anyone! |
"Ok Jules, the project dictates you can pick from these DS players tonight but you can throw in two or three fringe first-teamers. Furs will help you out. Remember, the result doesn't matter, cups don't matter its the long-term project that does."
There you go, JS picked the team! |  | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:42 - Aug 13 with 1128 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:18 - Aug 13 by Hunterhoop |
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
The project supersedes results. Go back and read Clive’s recent pieces, and all the references to short vs long term. Listen to Dave Mc (well, read between his lines). It’s there if you are willing to see it.
Now, whether you like that or not is a different question.
The goal of the club at the minute is to establish a player trading model where we make profit. Not as an aside to trying to field the strongest squad for this season and compete…but as the primary goal. Secondary is getting results, with a caveat that we need to stay in the league.
I believe Nourry will be selling this as the only way the club can gradually build up an income to compete in this league and eventually go up. In some ways that makes sense. It is how Brentford did it. BUT they did get results on the pitch each season, were regularly top half and improved. This is the balance Nourry talks of himself. I suspect Nourry has a personal reason he wants to take this approach. If he can demonstrate how he spent X and sold for Y during his time here to make a profit, and how the players he signed went onto better things, all using a data driven approach, he positions himself for a DOF at a bigger club. It’s likely more achievable than getting us promoted. Cifuentes wasn’t the only ambitious one. Nourry is not here for the very long term, girls and boys, not if he can help it. |
All of which would be fine, if football were only a business. It isn't, and it isn't.
If that's the long and short of the project, in sum, you're a mug if you choose to watch it. Just take up football accountancy and leave the passionate fans to their passions. [Post edited 13 Aug 1:07]
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 01:03 - Aug 13 with 1102 views | bob566 |
It wasn't a disaster. Blooded lots of kids. Yes I feel sorry for those who spent their hard earned and have a huge commute home. But that will stand them well. Great experience for the kids. They did well by the way. Proud of them. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 01:40 - Aug 13 with 1040 views | Jules4367 |
The answer to this question is not Nourry or Stephan but the prosecution cites Nardi, Kholi and Bennie and whatever they drink or take at half time,
Consider the evidence:
We are 2-0 up so doing something right.
It makes sense to rest Burrell and Sutton was a loose cannon lucky to still be on the pitch.
So half time changes make sense!
Then Plymouth start throwing in crosses, knowing Nardi NEVER comes for them to claim.
How many times did we see Preston's keepe reach up and pick out our crosses at the weekend. Not sure if Nardi is from Transylvania and related to Dracula but he doesn't like and cannot handle crosses, So Nardi lets one in, then the next and finally the third- all preventable.
At 2-1 we needed out people to hold the ball and yet Bennie and Kholi, who put us in the lead, now start forgetting basics. Offside Kholi, Offside Kholi, Miss by Kholi on 2-2, stupid flick by Bennie to no one ....why?
We keep conceding either side of half time - why? Last year we were the worst in the league for conceding within 15 minutes from the break!
We were never going to win the cup and seeing who can do what was an experiment (but an insult to the fans who travelled)
But for me, had Nardi been able to deal with the corner and the cross for the second goal, there would be no talk of Nourry or the manager!
We'd be praising the youngsters! | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 01:45 - Aug 13 with 1035 views | ozexile |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 23:00 - Aug 12 by Rangersw12 |
Because as per usual it's the standards of the club is all wrong it's basically saying it's ok to lose games playing for QPR it's only the cup sod it , it's only the first away game oh well there is another one next week , there is only 1k fans ah well it's ok 2 k are going Saturday......
We will never change the club if they continue to have this losing mentality it does my head in and quite frankly I'm sick and tired of it
Standards standards and we have zero |
Excellent post. You can't pick and choose games to try and compete in..
Did we not learn that with Redknapp's bonus games. Where is the pride in wearing the shirt. We have hard of methodology, head of this, head of that and no one is held accountable. It's all Cliches and distractions. Win a game of football, that's why we exist as a club. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 02:16 - Aug 13 with 996 views | wombat |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:53 - Aug 12 by Lblock |
This is a fair shout; and concerning.
Makes the new man Jules look like a total patsy or puppet
Will seriously undermine his credibility with senior players.
Also burns off a lot of credit with fans early season
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Just got back to London after a horrific drive back from Plymouth , does anyone think he was picked because of his status as being a manager ? Yes he won a cup in 2019 since then ? Naff all
We have a paper thin squad which is getting ever weaker after every game , dunne out poku probably out for a while , relying on strikers who are rarely fit Frey Kolli and having to chuck a 19 year old in at right back because let’s be honest we don’t have anyone else who can play there in the first game . We have a ceo who is hellbent onselling a player any player for more than we bought him for ,one he’s brought in one his babies . He has zero interest in building a competitive squad or indeed a squad which can hope to compete .
He using the squad lack of rotation as a shitty stick to blame marti for last season when once again we did better than we should have with at times no central defenders and at the end not one fit striker but we still stayed upcomftably somehow , does anyone think we will do the same this season ?
Some of the youngest did ok short periods tonight smith, and Sutton before he turned into the terminator and was lucky to stay on Burrell was the stand out for me . Think somebody said Plymouth had 30 shots not sure if true . Kolli missed a decent chance at the end to take it to pens but wouldn’t have been deserved , and have to give a big congratulation to Kolli for finally lasting a full game tonight ,it’s took a. While [Post edited 13 Aug 2:29]
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 02:26 - Aug 13 with 982 views | rbee |
I think Julien picked the team, with Paul's help, but with Christians instructions to not select any players likely to start on Saturday.
Bearing in mind our injury crisis I can understand this.
However I do agree with those who have said that we should have had some more experience on the bench. They might not have been needed but I think you have to cover as many scenarios as you can which in last nights case included still being in with a chance with twenty minutes to go.
I really don't like calling out players, and he did save a penalty, but the closest thing to a disaster last night was our keeper. Nothing that we didn't already know, he struggles with crosses and cannot command his six yard box.
wombat, great post especially at this time of the morning after a long drive. The only point i would disagree with is Christian not wanting to build a decent squad. Surely the point of making a profit on player sales is to assemble a squad capable of challenging for promotion. [Post edited 13 Aug 2:46]
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 04:23 - Aug 13 with 887 views | Rsole |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:46 - Aug 12 by stevec |
Hi, Christian here,
Look you mugs, I’m trying to put a football team together and Ruben’s had enough of pulling £18 mill a season out of his pocket to keep the place afloat.
So what to do, well exactly what I’ve done the last two seasons.
We spend the first three months playing total crap. The bookies make us odds on for relegation, Ruben gives me the £18 mill up front and I bang the lot on us staying up on the exchanges.
We get ourselves out of trouble, Ruben pays off the bills and the bet covers the losses with a nice little earner on top.
Rinse and repeat, bosh, job done.
Now will you all SHUT UP |
Christian, you've been traded to Hammersmith & Fulham council.
Lee will help you with the bus fare.
It was a good project, Christian and we wish you the best.
Send Ben in next and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:25 - Aug 13 with 738 views | HammersmithR |
There’s definitely a sense that we are being used by Nourry that our club is being used as a guinea pig for this project which seems to be where results are irrelevant compared to giving youth team players a game so their value increases. As soon as a bigger club comes calling he’ll be off and it will be the fans picking up the pieces as we are struggling to stay in the Championship. I’m all for youth teamers getting in the first team. But they have to be good enough. Playing for QPR is an absolute honour. You earn that right. | | | |
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