| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... 21:55 - Aug 12 with 8833 views | qpr_1968 |
the players....
the manager...
the ref...
the club....
i know who it was'nt down to....
the 1'000 or so hardy supporters who gave their all to get us into the next round.... |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:41 - Aug 13 with 1512 views | Gloucs_R |
As a club, we are only here to develop and sell players now.
That's the Nourry way.
League position and cups? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 They don't matter anymore. [Post edited 13 Aug 8:24]
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:48 - Aug 13 with 1490 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
The 'old fart brigade' is having a field day with this result I see. I think you all need to take a step back and get a little perspective as some of the comments on here are OTT and frankly a bit embarrassing.
Personally I thought the selection was spot on and the kids done good. | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:21 - Aug 13 with 1428 views | Rsole |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:25 - Aug 13 by HammersmithR |
There’s definitely a sense that we are being used by Nourry that our club is being used as a guinea pig for this project which seems to be where results are irrelevant compared to giving youth team players a game so their value increases. As soon as a bigger club comes calling he’ll be off and it will be the fans picking up the pieces as we are struggling to stay in the Championship. I’m all for youth teamers getting in the first team. But they have to be good enough. Playing for QPR is an absolute honour. You earn that right. |
Well, I don’t doubt that for a minute but I’d imagine that a bigger club would only come calling if he was getting results, which don’t seem to be a priority.
Football is a results business - both on and off the pitch. Developing players whilst you potentially get relegated/knocked out of the cups isn’t a great way of achieving on either front. League 1 players won’t generate large sums of money and if there’s no cup run, there’s less TV coverage to help promote what you are developing outside of the fan base.
It would be easier to buy into IF we had someone in charge that had actually done it before - successfully. We don’t have that so it’s blind faith that we somehow get this right. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:25 - Aug 13 with 1426 views | oldchap |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:48 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
The 'old fart brigade' is having a field day with this result I see. I think you all need to take a step back and get a little perspective as some of the comments on here are OTT and frankly a bit embarrassing.
Personally I thought the selection was spot on and the kids done good. |
I am not sure that being dismissive about supporters being upset about their team exiting a cup competition is fair. To then collectively label them and pour scorn on the emotional response says more about you than them.
People want to see their team win, failing that, try hard and hopefully play some good football. I have no doubt that the youngsters tried hard and hopefully got something out of the experience. But don't be surprised if people get hacked off when they buy tickets to make an extremely long journey to support a team that has been stripped of all regular first team players in its Leagues own cup competition.
There may be a super long term plan but I fail to see how such an extreme approach to team selection is a critical part of that strategy.
Supporting a team like QPR requires massive emotional investment and hope. Disregard that emotional connection and diminish hope at your peril. Platitudes and soundbites in curated media interviews will only work so long. Critique others views by all means, but an collective dig of this kind is unnecessary. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:33 - Aug 13 with 1347 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:48 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
The 'old fart brigade' is having a field day with this result I see. I think you all need to take a step back and get a little perspective as some of the comments on here are OTT and frankly a bit embarrassing.
Personally I thought the selection was spot on and the kids done good. |
On the contrary WWC, it seems to me a lot of the comments are spot on.
Endured two minutes of Kim Jung's smug superciliousness in the Hoopsa interview before turning it off. He's a long way off in terms of defined above the line delivery of project goals to be as arrogant as he comes across for someone 27 years of age; one can only but imagine what he could be like as an 'old fart'.
This club needs money. Maybe a run in 'a' cup might yield some if we were ever to take it seriously. |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:40 - Aug 13 with 1330 views | mart_Goblin |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:25 - Aug 13 by oldchap |
I am not sure that being dismissive about supporters being upset about their team exiting a cup competition is fair. To then collectively label them and pour scorn on the emotional response says more about you than them.
People want to see their team win, failing that, try hard and hopefully play some good football. I have no doubt that the youngsters tried hard and hopefully got something out of the experience. But don't be surprised if people get hacked off when they buy tickets to make an extremely long journey to support a team that has been stripped of all regular first team players in its Leagues own cup competition.
There may be a super long term plan but I fail to see how such an extreme approach to team selection is a critical part of that strategy.
Supporting a team like QPR requires massive emotional investment and hope. Disregard that emotional connection and diminish hope at your peril. Platitudes and soundbites in curated media interviews will only work so long. Critique others views by all means, but an collective dig of this kind is unnecessary. |
Spot on .
But unfortunately you are wasting your time .
WWC is either now gone full QBlockPete or is just the websites troll aiming to antagonise for the sake of it .
You only have to read that last message to see that .
The person that said people with issues with CN and how the club is being run on several levels , now remind him of Donald Trump .
What’s so ironic about that is there is nothing more Trumpian than telling people that what they see ( injuries , Marti, eventually all the teenagers getting debuts etc ) is actually fake news so don’t believe the naysayers who all see the same .
Fully gone round the bend .
Looney tunes , all for what .
Either for some perverted self gratification or on the payroll .
As I said elsewhere, best to just ignore |  | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:56 - Aug 13 with 1248 views | johnhoop |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:48 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
The 'old fart brigade' is having a field day with this result I see. I think you all need to take a step back and get a little perspective as some of the comments on here are OTT and frankly a bit embarrassing.
Personally I thought the selection was spot on and the kids done good. |
Patronising, condescending and extremely disrespectful to other posters on this board.
You’re entitled to your own point of view but there’s no call for being abusive towards those who disagree with you. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:04 - Aug 13 with 1092 views | Blue_Castello |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 00:18 - Aug 13 by Hunterhoop |
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
The project supersedes results. Go back and read Clive’s recent pieces, and all the references to short vs long term. Listen to Dave Mc (well, read between his lines). It’s there if you are willing to see it.
Now, whether you like that or not is a different question.
The goal of the club at the minute is to establish a player trading model where we make profit. Not as an aside to trying to field the strongest squad for this season and compete…but as the primary goal. Secondary is getting results, with a caveat that we need to stay in the league.
I believe Nourry will be selling this as the only way the club can gradually build up an income to compete in this league and eventually go up. In some ways that makes sense. It is how Brentford did it. BUT they did get results on the pitch each season, were regularly top half and improved. This is the balance Nourry talks of himself. I suspect Nourry has a personal reason he wants to take this approach. If he can demonstrate how he spent X and sold for Y during his time here to make a profit, and how the players he signed went onto better things, all using a data driven approach, he positions himself for a DOF at a bigger club. It’s likely more achievable than getting us promoted. Cifuentes wasn’t the only ambitious one. Nourry is not here for the very long term, girls and boys, not if he can help it. |
Top post there's your explanation it's Nourry's project, get with the project or your out the door, we don't have a Manager we have a Head Coach taking instructions which was very likely explained to him at his job interview.
This could all be a master plan that bears fruit in the long term but it's a big gamble and last nights loss could possibly have been prevented with a few Senior players on the bench, I genuinely feel for the near 1000 who made the trip and await Clive's thoughts with interest on the decisions. | | | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:37 - Aug 13 with 973 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:08 - Aug 12 by qprd |
If you want to know anything abt Christian nourru and his character, just see what he said abt marti being responsible for the injuries last season at the fans forum
Everyone knows the board backed the wrong person there
Yet marti left without saying a word
The fact that Nourry continues to slag him off in such a cowardly way tells you the kind of human being he is.. it’s a shame Beale wasn’t manager under him bc they’re too pieces of pond scum cut from the same cloth.
The fact that he has anything to do with this team sickens me to me my core and part of me roots ifor us to fail to see this huckster out of a job
Only a nepo baby like Ruben could hire such an idiot |
Other clubs are available. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:56 - Aug 13 with 891 views | wombat |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 02:26 - Aug 13 by rbee |
I think Julien picked the team, with Paul's help, but with Christians instructions to not select any players likely to start on Saturday.
Bearing in mind our injury crisis I can understand this.
However I do agree with those who have said that we should have had some more experience on the bench. They might not have been needed but I think you have to cover as many scenarios as you can which in last nights case included still being in with a chance with twenty minutes to go.
I really don't like calling out players, and he did save a penalty, but the closest thing to a disaster last night was our keeper. Nothing that we didn't already know, he struggles with crosses and cannot command his six yard box.
wombat, great post especially at this time of the morning after a long drive. The only point i would disagree with is Christian not wanting to build a decent squad. Surely the point of making a profit on player sales is to assemble a squad capable of challenging for promotion. [Post edited 13 Aug 2:46]
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thanks , i dont think he knows how to build one hes cherry picking some decent prospects for sure will they work in a squad ? u need some old heads and we dont have them and have even less of them now dunne is out allegedy for a while , kids will soon fold under that pressure and any promise ifs gone, hes also gon ahave the issue that the project results in poor results how long will the fans let him get away with it ? we have sold big number this season in season tickets how many will keep coming back if we once again struggle or even worse drop this season ? |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:57 - Aug 13 with 892 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:33 - Aug 13 by PlanetHonneywood |
On the contrary WWC, it seems to me a lot of the comments are spot on.
Endured two minutes of Kim Jung's smug superciliousness in the Hoopsa interview before turning it off. He's a long way off in terms of defined above the line delivery of project goals to be as arrogant as he comes across for someone 27 years of age; one can only but imagine what he could be like as an 'old fart'.
This club needs money. Maybe a run in 'a' cup might yield some if we were ever to take it seriously. |
Sorry, but how do you know if CN is 'a long way off the defined above the line delivery of the project goals'?
The OP labeled last night as a 'disaster' others that the kids will never recover, another that the fans will turn on the manager if we lose Saturday.
It is OTT and completely unnecessary. | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:06 - Aug 13 with 841 views | Northernr |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 07:25 - Aug 13 by oldchap |
I am not sure that being dismissive about supporters being upset about their team exiting a cup competition is fair. To then collectively label them and pour scorn on the emotional response says more about you than them.
People want to see their team win, failing that, try hard and hopefully play some good football. I have no doubt that the youngsters tried hard and hopefully got something out of the experience. But don't be surprised if people get hacked off when they buy tickets to make an extremely long journey to support a team that has been stripped of all regular first team players in its Leagues own cup competition.
There may be a super long term plan but I fail to see how such an extreme approach to team selection is a critical part of that strategy.
Supporting a team like QPR requires massive emotional investment and hope. Disregard that emotional connection and diminish hope at your peril. Platitudes and soundbites in curated media interviews will only work so long. Critique others views by all means, but an collective dig of this kind is unnecessary. |
Very well said. |  | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:07 - Aug 13 with 825 views | wombat |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:57 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but how do you know if CN is 'a long way off the defined above the line delivery of the project goals'?
The OP labeled last night as a 'disaster' others that the kids will never recover, another that the fans will turn on the manager if we lose Saturday.
It is OTT and completely unnecessary. |
Football used to be an entertaimnet , a way of letting the usual life Cr@p go at the weekend , once it becomes a worse option than that people vote with there feet , thats money down the drain for the club , the PROJECT is an idea run mainly from a few people with a couple of PCS and running some numbers and lots of hope , its not beiung run from a football point of view, finding that happy balance of entertaiment , maybe a cup run , maybe a season of relative boring mid table safety , how long do you think fans will carry on thinking hey lets watch the project sat and hope some of our favourite players are fit enough to play ?
yes fans are turning to early , but thats football , it will be intrestingto see how nourry handles a few boos etc on a sat during a game ? the project is being run by somebody with a one page CV who somehow hoodwinked the board got a very big job in football based on an idea . | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:08 - Aug 13 with 827 views | Rangersw12 |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:57 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but how do you know if CN is 'a long way off the defined above the line delivery of the project goals'?
The OP labeled last night as a 'disaster' others that the kids will never recover, another that the fans will turn on the manager if we lose Saturday.
It is OTT and completely unnecessary. |
People might not be in open revolt but a lot of proper fans are pissed off at the moment and it won't take much for this to go tits up.
The twitter virgins who your mate is clearly trying to impress rarely go to games so don't really represent the fans base however much they think they do.
I give the manager till Kelman scoring the 2nd for Charlton for the " you don't know what your doing " chants start | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:18 - Aug 13 with 773 views | JamesB1979 |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:08 - Aug 13 by Rangersw12 |
People might not be in open revolt but a lot of proper fans are pissed off at the moment and it won't take much for this to go tits up.
The twitter virgins who your mate is clearly trying to impress rarely go to games so don't really represent the fans base however much they think they do.
I give the manager till Kelman scoring the 2nd for Charlton for the " you don't know what your doing " chants start |
Nourry is his mate because he hasn’t a different view to you? I didnt think people were in revolt at Sunderland game. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:24 - Aug 13 with 738 views | Maggsinho |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:08 - Aug 13 by Rangersw12 |
People might not be in open revolt but a lot of proper fans are pissed off at the moment and it won't take much for this to go tits up.
The twitter virgins who your mate is clearly trying to impress rarely go to games so don't really represent the fans base however much they think they do.
I give the manager till Kelman scoring the 2nd for Charlton for the " you don't know what your doing " chants start |
In my experience fans at games are a lot less furious about whatever issue we're excited about on here. There can be reams of stuff written all week and it's barely mentioned at the game on Saturday. |  | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:24 - Aug 13 with 730 views | wombat |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:18 - Aug 13 by JamesB1979 |
Nourry is his mate because he hasn’t a different view to you? I didnt think people were in revolt at Sunderland game. |
we was so high up nobody would have heard us at sunderland !
an end of season dead rubber game , when sunderland were so off it its amazing they went up in the play offs | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:25 - Aug 13 with 715 views | Northernr |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:07 - Aug 13 by wombat |
Football used to be an entertaimnet , a way of letting the usual life Cr@p go at the weekend , once it becomes a worse option than that people vote with there feet , thats money down the drain for the club , the PROJECT is an idea run mainly from a few people with a couple of PCS and running some numbers and lots of hope , its not beiung run from a football point of view, finding that happy balance of entertaiment , maybe a cup run , maybe a season of relative boring mid table safety , how long do you think fans will carry on thinking hey lets watch the project sat and hope some of our favourite players are fit enough to play ?
yes fans are turning to early , but thats football , it will be intrestingto see how nourry handles a few boos etc on a sat during a game ? the project is being run by somebody with a one page CV who somehow hoodwinked the board got a very big job in football based on an idea . |
If it wasn’t for LFW I think I’d be just about done with it mate.
It’s really hard to describe. I don’t feel that connection to the club at the moment like I have before.
This feels like a job. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:31 - Aug 13 with 664 views | enfieldargh |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 06:48 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
The 'old fart brigade' is having a field day with this result I see. I think you all need to take a step back and get a little perspective as some of the comments on here are OTT and frankly a bit embarrassing.
Personally I thought the selection was spot on and the kids done good. |
As a proud memeber of the Old Fart Brigade, (Curry night is Thursday so Saturday HQ is safe) I was interested to see how this team performed last night.
A few where really strugling but I cant fault any for effort.
What I thought was wrong was that at around 65 mins it was evident that a few changes needed to be made, but nothing really until towards the end of the match. Would have thought changing things then would give those on the bench game time and not 7 minute cameos at the end.
Could be worse could be Boro whose 11 featured all first teamers and got turned over 0-4 at home to Donny |  |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:36 - Aug 13 with 641 views | nadera78 |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:25 - Aug 13 by Northernr |
If it wasn’t for LFW I think I’d be just about done with it mate.
It’s really hard to describe. I don’t feel that connection to the club at the moment like I have before.
This feels like a job. |
I keep thinking that none of it seems to matter. For us what counts is the small matter of wining football matches, but for the people running the club it's all about their overarching aims. They're looking at a 3-5 year project. That's why you get Williams describing success as having had the courage to stay the course, no matter what happens. | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:36 - Aug 13 with 642 views | systemsguy |
I only found out the score at breakfast this morning as I'm in sunny climes at this time of year...
I gave up caring about this cup competition 14 / 15 years ago when a proven manager like Warnock insulted the paying fans by not caring about it either...
I feel sorry for the thousand or so who travelled...
When is LFW handing out the torches and pitchforks?
I can see the natives are restless and waiting for the word
#NOURRYOUT #CynicalMoi? |  |
| 2025/2026.... Keep Calm, no matter the season, we'll follow our team..... |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:38 - Aug 13 with 626 views | 7374Ranger |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 22:29 - Aug 12 by Blue_Castello |
I don't believe for one minute that a new Manager in his second game for the club wanting to impress and get a win against a League one team says I know what I will pick the development squad for this game and leave all the first team back at Heston.
That just doesn't make sense, the decision was made higher up for whatever reason, they should have at least had 5 or 6 of the first team on the bench that could have got us the win. |
I think you could get right. I don't see this as Stephan's decision, although he should have stood his ground if it wasn't.
Whoever it was that chose that squad for the game they made a right mess of it.
The 1st team squad is big enough to have been able to include more than Nardi, Vale, Kolli, Bennie, Sutton and Burrell (who was in my opinion , foolishly subbed at half time). | | | |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 11:03 - Aug 13 with 524 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 09:57 - Aug 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but how do you know if CN is 'a long way off the defined above the line delivery of the project goals'?
The OP labeled last night as a 'disaster' others that the kids will never recover, another that the fans will turn on the manager if we lose Saturday.
It is OTT and completely unnecessary. |
Err, the two blokes he got good money for, were here before him and while I accept and don't disagree with his thinking on player development, I don't think we can yet say, when the project will start producing. You, however, may have the actual date in mind when the big bucks roll in.
Consequently, and as I have previously and readily accept, the project is still in it's infancy, but CN's nursery of talent hasn't yet started to yield sellable assets - dreadful term, but that's the model.
So that is why I suggest we are someway off having the conveyor belt consistently churning out players that are contributing to above the line short-term performance delivery and, as I understand the project, medium- to long-term profit yield.
However, and here's the rub: in the midst of the project goals, are football matches - which is ultimately what its about - that have defined outputs i.e. league games and in relation to cup games, undefined potential for delivering both glory with resulting above projectied profit potential.
Put simply: We know we screwed. We know CN's job is complicated by the incompetence of those who've gone before him. We're all broadly in agreement that developing is crucial given the ponderables and imponderables, but throwing kids in like this and eschewing the potential for rewards in a cup, leaves an odd taste in the mouth when ultimately, winning games is what it should be about. | |
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| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 11:10 - Aug 13 with 476 views | dmm |
| Who was this disaster down to tonight.... on 10:25 - Aug 13 by Northernr |
If it wasn’t for LFW I think I’d be just about done with it mate.
It’s really hard to describe. I don’t feel that connection to the club at the moment like I have before.
This feels like a job. |
I'm sorry to hear that, Clive - for your sake and for ours. Chin up, mate. We, the fans, are QPR. |  | | |
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