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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 14:08 - Aug 16 by ReslovenSwan1
The camera s saved lives keep speeds down a catch the crazy Boy racers. The extra costs are caused by anarchists.
If you know any arsonists report them to the police.
People who have their democratic say on 2016. Anarchy does not do one any good at all. Even the street hustler will suffer.
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The boy racers will always break the speed limit. Everyone on that the road was more than happy driving safely between 50mph and 60mph. Unfortunately reducing it to 40 mph encourages boy racers to overtake making the road less safe.
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 11:08 - Aug 16 by Dr_Winston
The mentality of the "authorities" approach to speed in Wales is neatly summed up by the A4067 between Ynysforgan and Pontardawe.
I don't think anyone would have complained if they'd erected speed cameras and maintained a previously very safe 60mph limit. But no, that wasn't enough. They had to hector people more. So we got the 40mph limit and thousands of pounds of taxpayers money wasted on cameras that were cut down. And will undoubtedly be cut down again if they're foolish enough to reinstall them (and it looks like they are).
The reason the speed limit was dropped on that section of road and average speed cameras installed was because of a petition signed by 3000 local people. Let’s hope the arseholes who cut down the speed cameras will be happy when the next fatality happens on that road.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 19:52 - Aug 18 with 1389 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 19:33 - Aug 18 by lifelong
The reason the speed limit was dropped on that section of road and average speed cameras installed was because of a petition signed by 3000 local people. Let’s hope the arseholes who cut down the speed cameras will be happy when the next fatality happens on that road.
Petitions don't have any legal binding in the UK. I could easily rustle up 3000 signatures on a petition to birch shoplifters outside the Quadrant, but the Goverment or local authorities would pay no attention to it and rightly so. Laws cannot be dictated by emotions, and any politician who allows them to be so is not fit for office. No great shock in Wales. There's loads of those.
In any case the fatality that initiated all this was caused by two idiots racing at 90mph. Not 60mph. The 60 limit was perfectly safe and should have been left in place.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 20:14 - Aug 18 with 1356 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 19:52 - Aug 18 by Dr_Winston
Petitions don't have any legal binding in the UK. I could easily rustle up 3000 signatures on a petition to birch shoplifters outside the Quadrant, but the Goverment or local authorities would pay no attention to it and rightly so. Laws cannot be dictated by emotions, and any politician who allows them to be so is not fit for office. No great shock in Wales. There's loads of those.
In any case the fatality that initiated all this was caused by two idiots racing at 90mph. Not 60mph. The 60 limit was perfectly safe and should have been left in place.
It was not just that accident though, there was over 30 accidents, including 2 fatalities, on that short section of road. I notice recently that a stretch of that road above Pontardawe which was 60mph has now been reduced to 40mph and a stretch of road between Ynysmeudwy and Ystalyfera has now been dropped from 40mph to 30mph.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 20:24 - Aug 18 with 1338 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 20:14 - Aug 18 by lifelong
It was not just that accident though, there was over 30 accidents, including 2 fatalities, on that short section of road. I notice recently that a stretch of that road above Pontardawe which was 60mph has now been reduced to 40mph and a stretch of road between Ynysmeudwy and Ystalyfera has now been dropped from 40mph to 30mph.
Two fatalities, only one involving excess speed. 30 accidents over a ten year period. So that's an average of three accidents a year on a road traversed by thousands of cars every day.
It was a very, very safe road at 60mph. The other roads were remarkably safe as well, but dumbass local party hacks are going to do what they do whilst emotionally manipulating the easily gulled.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 20:53 - Aug 18 with 1309 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 20:24 - Aug 18 by Dr_Winston
Two fatalities, only one involving excess speed. 30 accidents over a ten year period. So that's an average of three accidents a year on a road traversed by thousands of cars every day.
It was a very, very safe road at 60mph. The other roads were remarkably safe as well, but dumbass local party hacks are going to do what they do whilst emotionally manipulating the easily gulled.
So still less than eight a year on average. Again, with thousands of journeys a day.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:02 - Aug 18 by Whiterockin
Makes no odds as they will be out in less than 12 months and there will be a massive change of policy.
Lets hope so.
They can start by pulling down the average speed cameras on the M4 in Port Talbot and Newport.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:22 - Aug 18 with 1239 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:14 - Aug 18 by Dr_Winston
Lets hope so.
They can start by pulling down the average speed cameras on the M4 in Port Talbot and Newport.
Or lift them to 60 like many roads in England, it's strange how two parts of the UK can differ on the best speed limit to reduce pollution. I do know in the 60mph zones in England you don't have big lorries tailgating you as they are limited anyway.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:32 - Aug 18 with 1218 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 20:58 - Aug 18 by Dr_Winston
So still less than eight a year on average. Again, with thousands of journeys a day.
I tend to think that 8 accidents a year on a 5 mile stretch of road, some of which are serious with a child having to be airlifted to hospital are far too many. Some of which would no doubt have been prevented by average speed cameras in place. You would like to see speed limits, in certain circumstances, increased where I think it would be madness to do so.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:42 - Aug 18 with 1178 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:22 - Aug 18 by Whiterockin
Or lift them to 60 like many roads in England, it's strange how two parts of the UK can differ on the best speed limit to reduce pollution. I do know in the 60mph zones in England you don't have big lorries tailgating you as they are limited anyway.
Motorway speed limits should be 80mph these days. Existing ones are based almost entirely on 60 year old vehicle technology. Stopping distances are, in reality, at least a third lower than the Highway Code suggests.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 22:07 - Aug 18 with 1156 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 21:22 - Aug 18 by Whiterockin
Or lift them to 60 like many roads in England, it's strange how two parts of the UK can differ on the best speed limit to reduce pollution. I do know in the 60mph zones in England you don't have big lorries tailgating you as they are limited anyway.
Drove up to Heathrow recently to pick up daughter and family arriving from a holiday, their flight was arriving at 7am so went up the evening before and stayed in a B&B in Hounslow, that was an experience in itself. It was pleasing to see there were 20mph speed limits everywhere there.👍
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 01:40 - Aug 19 with 1126 views
The Pontardawe speed camera bypass installing is not a big problem to me . I live there and have done the Speed Awareness Course , not on that road but elsewhere .
A tragic loss of life for an innocent driver from Clydach , caused by two boy racers showing off made that stretch a hot spot for the cameras to be needed , the final straw .
Now frustration will cause the next serious accident due to drivers keeping to 40mph . as the law states .
GoSafe speed vans 24/7 might be a deterrent or do they work only 9-5 days .
The clowns come out after dark on my side road .
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 07:30 - Aug 19 with 1062 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 01:40 - Aug 19 by Robbie
The Pontardawe speed camera bypass installing is not a big problem to me . I live there and have done the Speed Awareness Course , not on that road but elsewhere .
A tragic loss of life for an innocent driver from Clydach , caused by two boy racers showing off made that stretch a hot spot for the cameras to be needed , the final straw .
Now frustration will cause the next serious accident due to drivers keeping to 40mph . as the law states .
GoSafe speed vans 24/7 might be a deterrent or do they work only 9-5 days .
The clowns come out after dark on my side road .
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Go Safe vans tend to be wherever they aren't needed. Like outside schools on a Saturday morning instead of a weekday.
They're a moneymaking scheme. Nothing more. Perhaps the most cynical example of how little any of this has to do with actual safety.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 09:55 - Aug 19 with 1020 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 07:30 - Aug 19 by Dr_Winston
Go Safe vans tend to be wherever they aren't needed. Like outside schools on a Saturday morning instead of a weekday.
They're a moneymaking scheme. Nothing more. Perhaps the most cynical example of how little any of this has to do with actual safety.
My first speeding infringement in over 40 years of driving ( no accidents either) was recently in Carmarthenshire ( their very keen to keep us safe in that particular county ), doing 64 overtaking in the designated lane on the top of the Llandowror bypass heading back to Swansea , beautiful ,dry clear day , with visibility excellent , my fault its 60 so no complaints other than feeling that is was nothing more than another income for those who believe if it moves than tax it.
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 08:29 - Aug 23 with 774 views
When is a default not a default, when a government starts to backtrack. A more sensible approach should have been considered in the beginning and acceptance would have been easier for the Senedd.
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The truth about 20mph after two years. on 11:26 - Aug 23 with 686 views
The truth about 20mph after two years. on 08:41 - Aug 23 by Whiterockin
When is a default not a default, when a government starts to backtrack. A more sensible approach should have been considered in the beginning and acceptance would have been easier for the Senedd.
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