| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? 20:49 - Sep 12 with 3050 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Given their previous history of violence and the Charlie Kirk assassination by a man with links/sympathies to the group is it time we and the US nipped the issue in the bud?
Nothing screams anti fascist like sticking a bullet in the throat of someone you disagree with… |  |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:34 - Sep 12 with 3007 views | Demitrius |
Antifa are intrinsically allied to Hope not Hate (they do a lot of hate but that's another thread in itself) so as a Whitehall sponsored NGO that will never happen.
They are responsible for 90% of the aggro on any given street protest but are a useful tool in branding everyone else "far right thugs"
It's quite a clever tactic actually. Orwellian but clever...
I'd be interested to hear from any Police whistle blowers on the logistics of bussing them in. where they get their signs from, why they are still allowed to wear facemasks., what the CO instructions are ..etc etc
Saturday should be peaceful but I have a feeling it will be engineered to go pear shaped..
We'll see... [Post edited 12 Sep 21:41]
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:39 - Sep 12 with 3000 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:34 - Sep 12 by Demitrius |
Antifa are intrinsically allied to Hope not Hate (they do a lot of hate but that's another thread in itself) so as a Whitehall sponsored NGO that will never happen.
They are responsible for 90% of the aggro on any given street protest but are a useful tool in branding everyone else "far right thugs"
It's quite a clever tactic actually. Orwellian but clever...
I'd be interested to hear from any Police whistle blowers on the logistics of bussing them in. where they get their signs from, why they are still allowed to wear facemasks., what the CO instructions are ..etc etc
Saturday should be peaceful but I have a feeling it will be engineered to go pear shaped..
We'll see... [Post edited 12 Sep 21:41]
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And your evidence for them being being responsible for 90% of agro on any given protest is?… |  | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:51 - Sep 12 with 2988 views | Demitrius |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:39 - Sep 12 by Gwyn737 |
And your evidence for them being being responsible for 90% of agro on any given protest is?… |
Mainly Video footage
First hand reports
Two tier policing deliberately causing friction.
I can only assume you've been living in rural Albania for the last 2 years without a wifi connection if you can't face basic facts.
Antifa/HNH are backed and bankrolled by our so called elected government to provoke reaction and besmirch dissent/opposition.
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 22:03 - Sep 12 with 2970 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:51 - Sep 12 by Demitrius |
Mainly Video footage
First hand reports
Two tier policing deliberately causing friction.
I can only assume you've been living in rural Albania for the last 2 years without a wifi connection if you can't face basic facts.
Antifa/HNH are backed and bankrolled by our so called elected government to provoke reaction and besmirch dissent/opposition.
This is hardly news |
And that equates to 90% does it? | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 22:06 - Sep 12 with 2954 views | majorraglan |
It’s my understanding Antifa is not a single organization but a loosely affiliated, decentralized political movement of individuals, primarily on the left, who oppose fascism and the far-right, which would mean you couldn’t ban “Antifa” it would be more case of looking at the individual organisations.
Many of the organisations who are labelled as “Antifa” are peaceful, but there are others who are more disposed to using violence and they should be looked at closely. | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 08:27 - Sep 13 with 2653 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 22:06 - Sep 12 by majorraglan |
It’s my understanding Antifa is not a single organization but a loosely affiliated, decentralized political movement of individuals, primarily on the left, who oppose fascism and the far-right, which would mean you couldn’t ban “Antifa” it would be more case of looking at the individual organisations.
Many of the organisations who are labelled as “Antifa” are peaceful, but there are others who are more disposed to using violence and they should be looked at closely. |
That’s my understanding - it’s not an homogeneous group as such.
Doesn’t really work as description either, everyone on here is anti-facist by definition.
Of course there are false flags and disruption but it’s also a very handy bogeyman to justify violence.
I’d need to see some pretty convincing evidence for me to believe that successive governments have paid for criminals to interfere in 90% of right leaning events, particularly it’s the power the right have on social media to expose such things. | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 08:57 - Sep 13 with 2626 views | AguycalledJack |
If it had been a lefty influencer that had been shot they would be boarding up the cities ready for the riots. Not heard of any riots from the right over the shooting. Happy to be corrected.
Says it all really. [Post edited 13 Sep 8:59]
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 09:10 - Sep 13 with 2605 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 08:57 - Sep 13 by AguycalledJack |
If it had been a lefty influencer that had been shot they would be boarding up the cities ready for the riots. Not heard of any riots from the right over the shooting. Happy to be corrected.
Says it all really. [Post edited 13 Sep 8:59]
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I’m trying to think of someone who would be comparable. Not sure I can. | | | |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 09:28 - Sep 13 with 2564 views | Dr_Winston |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 09:10 - Sep 13 by Gwyn737 |
I’m trying to think of someone who would be comparable. Not sure I can. |
In the UK someone like James O'Brien maybe.
In any case, we've seen what the Antifa types do when a drug addicted career criminal gets killed so it's not a huge leap to assume they'd do the same in a similar situation. |  |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 09:54 - Sep 13 with 2517 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 08:57 - Sep 13 by AguycalledJack |
If it had been a lefty influencer that had been shot they would be boarding up the cities ready for the riots. Not heard of any riots from the right over the shooting. Happy to be corrected.
Says it all really. [Post edited 13 Sep 8:59]
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Few years back Owen jones got jumped and beaten up after leaving a restaurant with his boyfriend/husband and there was pretty much universal condemnation.
Not quite at the same level as someone getting executed in cold blood but still pretty gnarly. | |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:02 - Sep 13 with 2510 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 09:28 - Sep 13 by Dr_Winston |
In the UK someone like James O'Brien maybe.
In any case, we've seen what the Antifa types do when a drug addicted career criminal gets killed so it's not a huge leap to assume they'd do the same in a similar situation. |
That’s a good shout and probably as close as we get. Still doesn’t have anywhere near the traction though. | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:05 - Sep 13 with 2504 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 09:54 - Sep 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Few years back Owen jones got jumped and beaten up after leaving a restaurant with his boyfriend/husband and there was pretty much universal condemnation.
Not quite at the same level as someone getting executed in cold blood but still pretty gnarly. |
That was grim but I’m not sure if that was down to his opinions or down to his sexuality. | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:44 - Sep 13 with 2457 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:05 - Sep 13 by Gwyn737 |
That was grim but I’m not sure if that was down to his opinions or down to his sexuality. |
They didn’t attack his husband though. | |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:49 - Sep 13 with 2447 views | onehunglow |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:44 - Sep 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
They didn’t attack his husband though. |
Between the two of us, Owen hatefully shite whose face it would be hard not to slap not that I’m condoning his attack
He’s utterly obnoxious and people like that run the risk of attack | |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 11:13 - Sep 13 with 2439 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 10:49 - Sep 13 by onehunglow |
Between the two of us, Owen hatefully shite whose face it would be hard not to slap not that I’m condoning his attack
He’s utterly obnoxious and people like that run the risk of attack |
He shouldn’t face attack for fighting for what he believes in though. He hasn’t hurt anyone he just makes videos expressing his opinion. I actually admire him and others who put their head above the parapet even though his arguments are based in very little logic and would fall apart at the slightest bit of scrutiny. The number of times he’s lost his rag and/or stormed out of interviews because he’s being made to look like a fool. But he’s a trier bless him. The world needs more polemics like him more than ever of all persuasions in this asinine and sterile world.
I wouldn’t put him in the same bracket as O’Brien though who is a master of the barnham effect, very nasty and sly and will cut anyone off who even remotely challenges him. | |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 11:32 - Sep 13 with 2414 views | Demitrius |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 08:27 - Sep 13 by Gwyn737 |
That’s my understanding - it’s not an homogeneous group as such.
Doesn’t really work as description either, everyone on here is anti-facist by definition.
Of course there are false flags and disruption but it’s also a very handy bogeyman to justify violence.
I’d need to see some pretty convincing evidence for me to believe that successive governments have paid for criminals to interfere in 90% of right leaning events, particularly it’s the power the right have on social media to expose such things. |
https://www.charlottecgill.co.uk/p/who-funds-you-hope-not-hate-case
https://dailysceptic.org/2025/02/18/the-attorney-generals-radical-past-is-coming
In my naïve youth I spent a fair bit of time rubbing shoulders with AFA and ANL - they are the same type of people that thrive on violence nowadays just that they now call themselves Antifa and hide behind the thin cloak of respectability of Nick Lowles farcical HNH. The Palestine protests are full of them and so are the counter protests at the Hotels. They will be out today trying to cause trouble on the streets of London. Who pays for, manufactures and gives them the placards? Who pays their travel seeing as many of them are jobless? Who provides the minibuses? The taxpayer via Govt Grants and direct funding from shady Charitable trusts. I'd lay good money that Hermer donates and most of the Labour lot including Starmer.
The media love the term "far right thugs" and chuck it about with gay abandon but it's "the far left thugs" that are far more insidious and a threat to decent folks way of life in my opinion. | |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 12:02 - Sep 13 with 2371 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 11:32 - Sep 13 by Demitrius |
https://www.charlottecgill.co.uk/p/who-funds-you-hope-not-hate-case
https://dailysceptic.org/2025/02/18/the-attorney-generals-radical-past-is-coming
In my naïve youth I spent a fair bit of time rubbing shoulders with AFA and ANL - they are the same type of people that thrive on violence nowadays just that they now call themselves Antifa and hide behind the thin cloak of respectability of Nick Lowles farcical HNH. The Palestine protests are full of them and so are the counter protests at the Hotels. They will be out today trying to cause trouble on the streets of London. Who pays for, manufactures and gives them the placards? Who pays their travel seeing as many of them are jobless? Who provides the minibuses? The taxpayer via Govt Grants and direct funding from shady Charitable trusts. I'd lay good money that Hermer donates and most of the Labour lot including Starmer.
The media love the term "far right thugs" and chuck it about with gay abandon but it's "the far left thugs" that are far more insidious and a threat to decent folks way of life in my opinion. |
Those accounts are for 2020.
The full data looks like this:
Based on publicly available information and data from sources like the Charity Commission and Freedom of Information requests, here is a summary of government funding provided to Hope Not Hate:
Early Funding (2012-2013): The Searchlight Educational Trust (which later became Hope Not Hate Educational, the charitable wing of the organization) received three payments totaling £66,000 from the Department for Communities and Local Government. These funds were specifically for "educational work" and could not be used for political campaigning.
Other Reported Funding: A list of donations compiled by Powerbase.info indicates that Hope Not Hate has received other government funding, including:
£20,000 from the Home Office for a "Young Citizen Project."
£27,651 and £60,250 from the Home Office's Counter Extremism Unit.
£75,000 from the Greater London Authority (GLA) for a voter registration project.
£167,645 from the Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government/Department for Communities and Local Government.
Recent Funding:
According to a response from the Greater London Authority (GLA) to a question in March 2025, the GLA group has not provided any funding to the "Hope not Hate Charitable Trust" since 2021.
The Charity Commission's financial statements for the Hope Not Hate Charitable Trust for the year ending December 31, 2023, do not list any income from government contracts or grants for that specific year. However, it does show income from government grants of £85.40k in 2019 and £55.98k in 2020.
Are you seriously suggesting none of that (very small) money was used for the intended purpose and instead has funded the covert violence and disruption in 90% of right leaning protests for that last decade of so? | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 12:27 - Sep 13 with 2329 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
A political organisation, largely funded by unions, it's front page reads like a list of left wing campaigns. They say they are resisting the far right but fail to qualify their statement. |  |
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| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 12:59 - Sep 13 with 2286 views | hobo |
I take it antifa is an ironic name given they're some of the biggest fascists around? |  | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 13:27 - Sep 13 with 2235 views | Gwyn737 |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 12:59 - Sep 13 by hobo |
I take it antifa is an ironic name given they're some of the biggest fascists around? |
Who are? What are their names? | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 07:09 - Sep 15 with 1256 views | mangohilljack |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 21:39 - Sep 12 by Gwyn737 |
And your evidence for them being being responsible for 90% of agro on any given protest is?… |
The fact they go to protests "masked up" should tell you everything you need to know. | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 07:18 - Sep 15 with 1248 views | mangohilljack |
Whoever really uttered these words was bang on the money '"The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.” | | | |
| Should Antifa be proscribed as a terrorist group? on 07:39 - Sep 15 with 1228 views | KeithHaynes |
It’s hard to wonder what the left would do if there was no right.
Nobody to hate I suppose.
Having been influenced by the right in the late seventies at football, the fate of a young man growing up back then, and then being heavily involved in left wing (proper antifa early 80’s not these middle class weekend freaks ) action against the right as I got older I’ve learned none of them are worth a second of your day.
The only action you should take is to improve yourself and your families circumstances every day.
Goodnight both sides.
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