| Halal meat 17:48 - Sep 24 with 8608 views | Boundy |
Posters thoughts , myself not a fan and avoid establishments who serve it such as KFC but I do as I have the knowledge to do so but do our kids in Swansea schools have the choice as it's been said that al schools in Swansea serve it. |  |
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| Halal meat on 21:29 - Sep 25 with 2824 views | Whiterockin |
There are more than one option available. Look at week three Thursday the Halal option to the turkey is chicken, there are not all like for like and definitely not all Halal. Don't ask the politicians ask the schools. [Post edited 25 Sep 21:35]
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| Halal meat on 21:55 - Sep 25 with 2748 views | jack_lord |
OK so the schools are serving Halal meat options on top of the usual meat options.
I don't agree with halal meat but they are an option for those who are stuck in a time warp
Not quite what I thought from the start |  |
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| Halal meat on 22:34 - Sep 25 with 2711 views | onehunglow |
We shouldn’t be killing animals in this way
Excruciating pain and all for Jehovah or Allah
Sadly , religion is nowt to do it this decision simply token waving
We have a Kong who is head of the Church of England or which the church in Wales is part of
Fact
Ergo, we are a Christian country
We follow our traditions and culture first | |
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| Halal meat on 23:34 - Sep 25 with 2627 views | jack_lord |
| Halal meat on 22:34 - Sep 25 by onehunglow |
We shouldn’t be killing animals in this way
Excruciating pain and all for Jehovah or Allah
Sadly , religion is nowt to do it this decision simply token waving
We have a Kong who is head of the Church of England or which the church in Wales is part of
Fact
Ergo, we are a Christian country
We follow our traditions and culture first |
The British monarch has been known as “defender of the faith” since the 16th century, referring to the Church of England after the country's split from Catholicism, but in an increasingly diverse United Kingdom, Charles has unfortunately long spoken of a desire to protect all faiths.
Enough public pressure would usually do in the same was those who abhor foxhunting - this may seem an odd thing to suggest but are there enough people who care?
Maybe if the Daily Mail were to suggest that Starmer was making people eat Halal then there would be outrage | |
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| Halal meat on 09:32 - Sep 26 with 2356 views | onehunglow |
| Halal meat on 23:34 - Sep 25 by jack_lord |
The British monarch has been known as “defender of the faith” since the 16th century, referring to the Church of England after the country's split from Catholicism, but in an increasingly diverse United Kingdom, Charles has unfortunately long spoken of a desire to protect all faiths.
Enough public pressure would usually do in the same was those who abhor foxhunting - this may seem an odd thing to suggest but are there enough people who care?
Maybe if the Daily Mail were to suggest that Starmer was making people eat Halal then there would be outrage |
Morning Jase
Charles is a kock
First of all
I quite like our country but I would prefer a secular one so NO faith is protected as such
Religion underpins just about every evil we have seen
I buy the daily mail on a Saturday for the tv guide and puzzles for the missus
I quickly look at weather worldwide then trawl through the paper in about ten minutes over my cafe And pain au chocolat
It doesn’t affect my political thinking
Nothing does
I see what I see, have an mutter then take the dog out
When a young Tesco manager , I did take to buying the Guardian to impress the Reps who saw me
It burned my retina
Then I got the Telegraph as somebody told me it was the paper of the Snobs and I was a snob then
After that failed , I really did buy a Mornong Star as the South Africa apartheid demoed where where
I could decide if I wanted Mandela released or emigrate as it was a great country to be white
I did have a chum who did and did very well in Durban in retailing but I lost touch
Funnily enough , my daughter in law lived there with her parents before getting the folk out when he was released
Not a great place really | |
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| Halal meat on 09:42 - Sep 26 with 2324 views | jack_lord |
| Halal meat on 09:32 - Sep 26 by onehunglow |
Morning Jase
Charles is a kock
First of all
I quite like our country but I would prefer a secular one so NO faith is protected as such
Religion underpins just about every evil we have seen
I buy the daily mail on a Saturday for the tv guide and puzzles for the missus
I quickly look at weather worldwide then trawl through the paper in about ten minutes over my cafe And pain au chocolat
It doesn’t affect my political thinking
Nothing does
I see what I see, have an mutter then take the dog out
When a young Tesco manager , I did take to buying the Guardian to impress the Reps who saw me
It burned my retina
Then I got the Telegraph as somebody told me it was the paper of the Snobs and I was a snob then
After that failed , I really did buy a Mornong Star as the South Africa apartheid demoed where where
I could decide if I wanted Mandela released or emigrate as it was a great country to be white
I did have a chum who did and did very well in Durban in retailing but I lost touch
Funnily enough , my daughter in law lived there with her parents before getting the folk out when he was released
Not a great place really |
Mornin Rich
Charles certainly is but it might be the old adage that the Royalty adapts to keep it in power.
Religion will be the thing that sinks this nation - I have no idea on the timescale but that would have been unthinkable when you were a kid.
Maybe the DM doesnt affect your thoughts but you aren't the only one who reads it.
I can't say I buy any particular paper these days as they all have their own bias to spin and it is the spin that sells. | |
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| Halal meat on 09:46 - Sep 26 with 2316 views | AnotherJohn |
Interesting menus. So either Kelly Small's information was incorrect/superseded or all meat in Swansea schools is indeed halal but some is not labelled as such. It seems hard to get to the bottom of this. Are there any other requirements that might affect the labelling of halal meals besides type of meat? | | | |
| Halal meat on 09:55 - Sep 26 with 2305 views | onehunglow |
| Halal meat on 09:42 - Sep 26 by jack_lord |
Mornin Rich
Charles certainly is but it might be the old adage that the Royalty adapts to keep it in power.
Religion will be the thing that sinks this nation - I have no idea on the timescale but that would have been unthinkable when you were a kid.
Maybe the DM doesnt affect your thoughts but you aren't the only one who reads it.
I can't say I buy any particular paper these days as they all have their own bias to spin and it is the spin that sells. |
Always good to chew the cud with you
Were waiting for plane back and I’m told this is my last post as I’m ignoring her | |
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| Halal meat on 10:59 - Sep 26 with 2263 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Halal meat on 23:34 - Sep 25 by jack_lord |
The British monarch has been known as “defender of the faith” since the 16th century, referring to the Church of England after the country's split from Catholicism, but in an increasingly diverse United Kingdom, Charles has unfortunately long spoken of a desire to protect all faiths.
Enough public pressure would usually do in the same was those who abhor foxhunting - this may seem an odd thing to suggest but are there enough people who care?
Maybe if the Daily Mail were to suggest that Starmer was making people eat Halal then there would be outrage |
There have been whispers since the mid 90’s that Charles had secretly converted to Islam. I don’t think he’s gone that far but he is certainly very very fond of it.
There’s also a long long history of monarchs living their whole lives outwardly as good old Protestant Church of England boys and girls but when faced with their demise they called immediately for the catholic priest.
I guess we’ll never know. |  |
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| Halal meat on 13:18 - Sep 26 with 2184 views | Boundy |
| Halal meat on 09:46 - Sep 26 by AnotherJohn |
Interesting menus. So either Kelly Small's information was incorrect/superseded or all meat in Swansea schools is indeed halal but some is not labelled as such. It seems hard to get to the bottom of this. Are there any other requirements that might affect the labelling of halal meals besides type of meat? |
Bread? strange but I gave seen halal mentioned as one of the ingredients on the back of some bread packaging. | |
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| Halal meat on 14:34 - Sep 26 with 2110 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Halal meat on 13:18 - Sep 26 by Boundy |
Bread? strange but I gave seen halal mentioned as one of the ingredients on the back of some bread packaging. |
Some breads use gelatin in their recipes as a preservative. | |
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| Halal meat on 15:30 - Sep 26 with 2081 views | union_jack |
That menu suggests that halal meat is an option if I’ve read it correctly. |  |
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| Halal meat on 17:30 - Sep 26 with 2028 views | controversial_jack |
| Halal meat on 18:02 - Sep 24 by trampie |
Both Halal and Kosher slaughter without stunning should be banned in the UK.
The Muslims can go to Muslim countries and the Jews can go to Israel if they don't like it, barbaric practice. [Post edited 24 Sep 18:32]
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| Halal meat on 18:00 - Sep 26 with 1981 views | trampie |
You have got that wrong, they are allowed to slaughter the animals for religious reasons without stunning them first in this country (but only for religious reasons as far as i can tell).
When you say this country I assume you mean the UK ? as I seen it said that it is only in England they do the barbaric act (havent seen that social media post confirmed), I seen rspca figures and 12% of Halal are slaughtered without stunning and 100% of Kosher are killed without stunning, that is probably UK wide figures with no breakdown for Wales, Scotland, N.Ireland. |  |
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| Halal meat on 01:29 - Sep 27 with 1879 views | Robbie |
Carnivore myself so up till now never questioned where the beef and chicken mixed menu meal at ordering time in my local takeaway came from .
Always had doubts and it seems never see how a sausage is made , a real turn off .
My daughter has been vegan from a very young age and I salute her in her stance over animal cruelty .
A one off a few weeks ago at my workplace and a Customer asked me if this is Halal whilst doing their shopping .
How do I know these days . | | | |
| Halal meat on 07:55 - Sep 27 with 1716 views | pontlliwjack |
I supplied food into school and hospitals across Wales for 20years and I’m telling you it’s non negotiable, if you want a contract you have to provide Halal chicken, further more almost all processed or pre cooked chicken that come into this country is Halal…
They even demand you provide a certificate to prove this.
Always been the case, and it’s not a Swansea thing it’s direct mandate from the Welsh assembly |  | | |
| Halal meat on 08:08 - Sep 27 with 1701 views | AnotherJohn |
| Halal meat on 07:55 - Sep 27 by pontlliwjack |
I supplied food into school and hospitals across Wales for 20years and I’m telling you it’s non negotiable, if you want a contract you have to provide Halal chicken, further more almost all processed or pre cooked chicken that come into this country is Halal…
They even demand you provide a certificate to prove this.
Always been the case, and it’s not a Swansea thing it’s direct mandate from the Welsh assembly |
If this is correct then one wonders if the menu at the link reflects the school's creative attempt to defuse parental disquiet by making people think there is a non-halal option when this isn't the case with meat dishes. | | | |
| Halal meat on 08:08 - Sep 27 with 1700 views | pontlliwjack |
| Halal meat on 21:20 - Sep 24 by Gwyn737 |
Completely unnecessary in my opinion.
I’m also very uncomfortable about stories where shops and restaurants have it as their default position without making it very public they’re doing so.
I’d like to avoid it at all costs but I’m not sure I have the information to do so. [Post edited 24 Sep 21:44]
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It’s a legal requirement to have specifications (or access to ) for every food outlet, this is for Allergen control, on this document it would state if it’s Halal or not, so you can ask and they should be able to tell you.
Sadly I can tell you all processes chicken WILL be Halal, food suppliers like Castell Howell and other companies are unlikely to stock anything other than Halal, there would be Red Tractor stamped chicken which is British produced but much more expensive and we live in a world driven by margins | | | |
| Halal meat on 08:09 - Sep 27 with 1698 views | pontlliwjack |
| Halal meat on 08:08 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn |
If this is correct then one wonders if the menu at the link reflects the school's creative attempt to defuse parental disquiet by making people think there is a non-halal option when this isn't the case with meat dishes. |
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| Halal meat on 08:13 - Sep 27 with 1688 views | pontlliwjack |
| Halal meat on 08:08 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn |
If this is correct then one wonders if the menu at the link reflects the school's creative attempt to defuse parental disquiet by making people think there is a non-halal option when this isn't the case with meat dishes. |
If anyone on here has children in school challenge the council to provide evidence that it’s not Halal chicken, they have to give you that information by law | | | |
| Halal meat on 01:26 - Sep 28 with 1382 views | Robbie |
The old School dinner ladies back in the day , and how they kept up pupils feed dinner time would be a thing of heritage and I still applauud them ladies , a lost art in catering .
Queues at the serving hatch and always a smile , chips or mash with your main meal .
Appreciate them Women even now and all cooked onsite prior to service .
How the modern School caters for so many cultures , good luck there .
If Halah meat is on the menu these days I fear for Porky the Pig soon . | | | |
| Halal meat on 14:02 - Sep 28 with 1215 views | Gwyn737 |
| Halal meat on 08:13 - Sep 27 by pontlliwjack |
If anyone on here has children in school challenge the council to provide evidence that it’s not Halal chicken, they have to give you that information by law |
I’d be surprised and disappointed if that’s the case.
If all chicken is halal and then it’s advertised in that way shown on the menu then that’s wrong. | | | |
| Halal meat on 14:38 - Sep 28 with 1200 views | Demitrius |
I've suspected for some time and can easily believe that most meat served in schools, hospitals and workplace canteens is Halal. Fast food joints and curry houses you expect it as these are almost exclusively owned by Muslim businessmen.
Another concession to a pernicious cult that exercises a loud and vexatious voice to get its own way like spoilt children despite being - for now at least - a minority.
I can imagine many management meetings where it was deemed easier to give in to the shouty f**kers and concede and cover it up/brushing it under the carpet under the "people are unlikely to question or find out so what's the problem"
Kindness and tolerance is seen as weakness and next week it will be something else.
It's about time these people were firmly told "NO!" and to get back in their bloody box but we bend over backwards instead because we have moral cowards and suicidal empaths in every position of decision making in this crumbling nation of ours, [Post edited 28 Sep 14:41]
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| Halal meat on 18:23 - Oct 8 with 223 views | Gwyn737 |
This story seems to have gained traction again so I thought I’d look into the quote that many are using about the Swansea head of education and planning confirming all meat in swansea schools is halal. Here’s what Google Gemini had to say in my initial search 🤣
“ The statement you are asking about, where someone claims "Swansea's head of education planning and resources has confirmed to the sennedd that all meat served in swansea schools is currently Halal," appears to originate from an unverified comment within a forum thread on the Swansea Independent - FansNetwork website.
The specific comment with the claim was mentioned in a previous search result (which I cannot directly display again, but was identified as a forum post) and was attributed to a user on that site.
However, it is important to note that official public documents and news reports contradict this claim:
Swansea Council's Official Primary School Menu (which names the Head of Education Planning and Resources as a key person in the catering service in a related news article) clearly lists both standard meat options and separate "Halal" meat options for most days.
The Head of Education Planning and Resources for Swansea, Kelly Small, has been quoted in a news article about the school catering service, but the article itself does not mention a Senedd statement that all meat is halal.
In conclusion, the post you are asking about is likely a forum comment, and its claim is not supported by the official menus and public information provided by Swansea Council.” | | | |
| Halal meat on 18:27 - Oct 8 with 214 views | Whiterockin |
| Halal meat on 18:23 - Oct 8 by Gwyn737 |
This story seems to have gained traction again so I thought I’d look into the quote that many are using about the Swansea head of education and planning confirming all meat in swansea schools is halal. Here’s what Google Gemini had to say in my initial search 🤣
“ The statement you are asking about, where someone claims "Swansea's head of education planning and resources has confirmed to the sennedd that all meat served in swansea schools is currently Halal," appears to originate from an unverified comment within a forum thread on the Swansea Independent - FansNetwork website.
The specific comment with the claim was mentioned in a previous search result (which I cannot directly display again, but was identified as a forum post) and was attributed to a user on that site.
However, it is important to note that official public documents and news reports contradict this claim:
Swansea Council's Official Primary School Menu (which names the Head of Education Planning and Resources as a key person in the catering service in a related news article) clearly lists both standard meat options and separate "Halal" meat options for most days.
The Head of Education Planning and Resources for Swansea, Kelly Small, has been quoted in a news article about the school catering service, but the article itself does not mention a Senedd statement that all meat is halal.
In conclusion, the post you are asking about is likely a forum comment, and its claim is not supported by the official menus and public information provided by Swansea Council.” |
As expected Gwyn. | | | |
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