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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund 20:01 - Sep 29 with 894 viewsReslovenSwan1

It is only fair and democratic that the people who put up with the grief of pylons and turbines share of the benefits.

Merthyr Tydfil was the richest place in that world in terms of mineral wealth but you would never know if you went there. Even today the mine firms have cut and run and left a mess.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr5qx50y92o.amp

The Senedd has been promoting green energy and net zero but is not seeing the cash. There is the fracking question and trapped methane in the old coal mines.
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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:12 - Sep 30 with 585 viewsSullutaCreturned

The richest? What, richer than Russia or the DRC? Richer than the USA, Canada or Saudi?

Wales was raped for it's mineral wealth but that is history now.

What is fair hardly ever happens.
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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:40 - Sep 30 with 553 viewsWhiterockin

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:12 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned

The richest? What, richer than Russia or the DRC? Richer than the USA, Canada or Saudi?

Wales was raped for it's mineral wealth but that is history now.

What is fair hardly ever happens.


You don't even need to go abroad, the mining towns of Nottinghamshire are comparable as a like for like. Then there is the copper towns of Cornwall. We won't even mention offshore wealth of the North Sea. If he keeps posting bollux he keeps getting ignored.
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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:25 - Sep 30 with 476 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:12 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned

The richest? What, richer than Russia or the DRC? Richer than the USA, Canada or Saudi?

Wales was raped for it's mineral wealth but that is history now.

What is fair hardly ever happens.


Yeah the industry owners creamed off the profits from that. Some things never change. But then without that industry coming here and creating jobs Wales would have a population of about 400,000. The towns and cities and communities we know simply wouldn’t exist.

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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:45 - Sep 30 with 462 viewsWhiterockin

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:25 - Sep 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Yeah the industry owners creamed off the profits from that. Some things never change. But then without that industry coming here and creating jobs Wales would have a population of about 400,000. The towns and cities and communities we know simply wouldn’t exist.


So true, Lord Merthyr W.T. Lewis made an absolute fortune, but mine owners were getting very rich a long time before him, he just grouped them together and made it all more professional.
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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 17:44 - Sep 30 with 405 viewsBoundy

You don't like pylons,you have your own generator I take it.

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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:07 - Oct 2 with 40 viewsReslovenSwan1

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:40 - Sep 30 by Whiterockin

You don't even need to go abroad, the mining towns of Nottinghamshire are comparable as a like for like. Then there is the copper towns of Cornwall. We won't even mention offshore wealth of the North Sea. If he keeps posting bollux he keeps getting ignored.


You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities.

The Merthyr example is made because British project management has let them down. Open cast coal mining was allowed only if Escrow funds were provided by the developer for reinstatement. These funds were taken from profits.

Probable cute accounting we are all familiar with leave a £135m black hole due to a lack of administrative oversight.

You might not care but I do.

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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:56 - Oct 2 with 13 viewsmax936

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:07 - Oct 2 by ReslovenSwan1

You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities.

The Merthyr example is made because British project management has let them down. Open cast coal mining was allowed only if Escrow funds were provided by the developer for reinstatement. These funds were taken from profits.

Probable cute accounting we are all familiar with leave a £135m black hole due to a lack of administrative oversight.

You might not care but I do.


Well if you do really care you'd go and do something about it and put your name forward for councillor or an independent councillor and express your concerns and garner local support and speak for them, no good coming on a Football Forum spouting your displeasure get off your arse and be proactive!

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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:59 - Oct 2 with 13 viewsBoundy

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:07 - Oct 2 by ReslovenSwan1

You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities.

The Merthyr example is made because British project management has let them down. Open cast coal mining was allowed only if Escrow funds were provided by the developer for reinstatement. These funds were taken from profits.

Probable cute accounting we are all familiar with leave a £135m black hole due to a lack of administrative oversight.

You might not care but I do.


"You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities." As someone who has worked on a few wind Farms in Wales then I tell you you're wrong, as part of any planning consent communities can and do benefit which can be delivered in a wide range of forms,
including (but not limited to):
 Direct financial support (such as Community Benefit Funds)
 Opportunities such as community ownership, profit share, and shares ownership
 Measures or initiatives to support the reduction of energy costs
 The provision of new or improved local infrastructure
 Sponsorship of organisations, sporting and cultural events
 In-kind offers such as habitat management programmes
 Enabling education or training opportunities

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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:05 - Oct 2 with 7 viewsReslovenSwan1

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:56 - Oct 2 by max936

Well if you do really care you'd go and do something about it and put your name forward for councillor or an independent councillor and express your concerns and garner local support and speak for them, no good coming on a Football Forum spouting your displeasure get off your arse and be proactive!


I do not understand why people get personal. It has nothing to do with me. This is a forum and I give my opinion and can challenge other opinions. My personal circumstances are not up for debate and none of your business..

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Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:07 - Oct 2 with 0 viewsReslovenSwan1

Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:59 - Oct 2 by Boundy

"You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities." As someone who has worked on a few wind Farms in Wales then I tell you you're wrong, as part of any planning consent communities can and do benefit which can be delivered in a wide range of forms,
including (but not limited to):
 Direct financial support (such as Community Benefit Funds)
 Opportunities such as community ownership, profit share, and shares ownership
 Measures or initiatives to support the reduction of energy costs
 The provision of new or improved local infrastructure
 Sponsorship of organisations, sporting and cultural events
 In-kind offers such as habitat management programmes
 Enabling education or training opportunities


Yes I actually agree. Somehow a "not". got into my post.

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