| Hostages and Prisoners 09:11 - Oct 13 with 3483 views | trampie |
Reading the likes of Sky and BBC reports this morning, why are the people that Hamas hold called hostages yet the people that Israel hold are called prisoners ? |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 10:59 - Oct 13 with 1680 views | raynor94 |
Hamas are a terrorist organisation yes they are prisoners because they are criminals many murderers |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:51 - Oct 13 with 1642 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 10:59 - Oct 13 by raynor94 |
Hamas are a terrorist organisation yes they are prisoners because they are criminals many murderers |
There were and are thousands of Palestinians in jail including loads of women and children before Oct 7th without charge mun, no evidence presented against them, no trial, just snatched from their homes, obviously there has been loads more since Oct 7th.
So why are the ones that have done nothing not been described as hostages by our main stream media, its pro Israel propaganda that's why. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:52 - Oct 13 with 1637 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Hostages are innocent people taken to be used for leverage or ransom. Prisoners are people detained on suspicion of a crime.
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:04 - Oct 13 with 1606 views | trampie |
Children have been taken by the Israelis with no evidence presented, no charges, no trial, just jailed and that was for years and decades before Oct 7th as well as after, sounds like they were hostages to me. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:49 - Oct 13 with 1548 views | Demitrius |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:04 - Oct 13 by trampie |
Children have been taken by the Israelis with no evidence presented, no charges, no trial, just jailed and that was for years and decades before Oct 7th as well as after, sounds like they were hostages to me. |
As of Dec 2024 there were 300 minors detained by the IPS - not all of them Palestinian and some Israeli and other nationalities, none were under 16 years of age - all in the 16-18 bracket. 19 had been charged and sentenced, 125 in ongoing legal/judicial process, 25 detained as illegal combatants. 31 for being in Israel illegally and/or with intent to cause harm.
It's the last lot that are being held without trial and the contentious detainment as no offence has yet been committed. We have laws in the UK to arrest and prosecute those preparing and planning acts of terrorism and you would rightly think Israel, of all nations, has similar. The evidence must therefore be thin to non-existent just borderline suspicion. I'd agree its morally wrong and Amnesty and the UN are right to be getting involved. Detained illegally, yes. Hostages to be used as political weapons? No I don't think so, not in the true definition of the word and its meaning.
By the way these stats are from B’Tselem – The Israeli Information Centre for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories. They are basically from the same hymn sheet as Amnesty and nothing to do with the Israeli Govt - vehemently anti it in fact - so no reason to doubt these figures. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:20 - Oct 13 with 1515 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:51 - Oct 13 by trampie |
There were and are thousands of Palestinians in jail including loads of women and children before Oct 7th without charge mun, no evidence presented against them, no trial, just snatched from their homes, obviously there has been loads more since Oct 7th.
So why are the ones that have done nothing not been described as hostages by our main stream media, its pro Israel propaganda that's why. |
Hostages are the reason why Palestinians are being held as prisoners, no hostages no prisoners , simples.Most of the main stream media support the rule of law ,not terrorists or their supporters. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 14:19 - Oct 13 with 1476 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:20 - Oct 13 by Boundy |
Hostages are the reason why Palestinians are being held as prisoners, no hostages no prisoners , simples.Most of the main stream media support the rule of law ,not terrorists or their supporters. |
Palestinians including women and children have been held as 'prisoners' with no evidence of wrong doing, no charge or trial for decades, well before Oct 7th. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 14:29 - Oct 13 with 1461 views | trampie |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:11 - Oct 13 with 1375 views | trampie |
I'm surprised how well the Israeli hostages are looking (pics ive seen so far anyway), I remember photos of a hostage some months ago being skin and bones (when the Gazans started to starve due to a lack of food) they said the same would happen to the hostages if it carried on, I'm surprised how good and well dressed they look.
I remember reading some time ago, I think they let some go at some point and it was said that the hostages were regularly checked by Palestinian doctors and had food and water at that stage which is different to accusations of rape and torture said to be done to Palestinian 'prisoners'. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:15 - Oct 13 with 1370 views | Whiterockin |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:11 - Oct 13 by trampie |
I'm surprised how well the Israeli hostages are looking (pics ive seen so far anyway), I remember photos of a hostage some months ago being skin and bones (when the Gazans started to starve due to a lack of food) they said the same would happen to the hostages if it carried on, I'm surprised how good and well dressed they look.
I remember reading some time ago, I think they let some go at some point and it was said that the hostages were regularly checked by Palestinian doctors and had food and water at that stage which is different to accusations of rape and torture said to be done to Palestinian 'prisoners'. |
There are more hostages being released deceased than alive. [Post edited 13 Oct 17:26]
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:19 - Oct 13 with 1345 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:15 - Oct 13 by Whiterockin |
There are more hostages being released deceased than alive. [Post edited 13 Oct 17:26]
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500lb bombs do tend to have that effect. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:21 - Oct 13 with 1333 views | Whiterockin |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:19 - Oct 13 by trampie |
500lb bombs do tend to have that effect. |
The post mortems that will be carried out will explain everything. They are doing DNA tests first to ensure they are who they say they are. | | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 17:24 - Oct 13 with 1320 views | trampie |
I remember when 3 Israeli hostages escaped (well I think they escaped) and had a white flag , they were obviously unarmed as they were shirtless and they were shouting in Hebrew, the Israeli army just killed the 3 of them, they didn't realise they were hostages and thought they were a danger, just shows what they do to innocent Palestinians. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:22 - Oct 13 with 1254 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Here's a fine outstanding citizen that Hamas requested be released.
Ahmed Mahmed Jameel Shahada, a Palestinian prisoner from Gaza convicted in 1989 for the rape and murder of a 13-year-old boy, was scheduled for release. Shahada had been serving a life sentence and was originally due for release in 2036. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:36 - Oct 13 with 1242 views | Whiterockin |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:22 - Oct 13 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Here's a fine outstanding citizen that Hamas requested be released.
Ahmed Mahmed Jameel Shahada, a Palestinian prisoner from Gaza convicted in 1989 for the rape and murder of a 13-year-old boy, was scheduled for release. Shahada had been serving a life sentence and was originally due for release in 2036. |
The difference between a hostage and a prisoner is blatantly obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense. Unless they are just on a wind up. | | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:41 - Oct 13 with 1230 views | pencoedjack |
I’m just glad Israelis hostages have been released
Well done Mr Trump.
I’d imagine when the prisoners are released they will be back throwing rocks at the IDF & back banged up quick enough.
Not the brightest idea to throw missiles at soldiers in any country 👍 |  | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:45 - Oct 13 with 1221 views | raynor94 |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:36 - Oct 13 by Whiterockin |
The difference between a hostage and a prisoner is blatantly obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense. Unless they are just on a wind up. |
It's what he does sadly | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 19:31 - Oct 13 with 1178 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 18:41 - Oct 13 by pencoedjack |
I’m just glad Israelis hostages have been released
Well done Mr Trump.
I’d imagine when the prisoners are released they will be back throwing rocks at the IDF & back banged up quick enough.
Not the brightest idea to throw missiles at soldiers in any country 👍 |
The stone throwers are under occupation by a foreign military in this case. The name " Settlers" needs locking at. "Armed fundamentalist militia" would be better. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 22:19 - Oct 13 with 1122 views | controversial_jack |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 19:31 - Oct 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The stone throwers are under occupation by a foreign military in this case. The name " Settlers" needs locking at. "Armed fundamentalist militia" would be better. |
The Israelis released today were POWs not hostages. At least they had homes to go
Back to, unlike the Palestinian prisoners,
They looked healthier than the released Palestinians held in Israeli
Prisons too | | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 22:49 - Oct 13 with 1084 views | pencoedjack |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 22:19 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack |
The Israelis released today were POWs not hostages. At least they had homes to go
Back to, unlike the Palestinian prisoners,
They looked healthier than the released Palestinians held in Israeli
Prisons too |
Maybe a neighbouring country in the Middle East will allow them to move to their country whilst Mr Trump rebuilds Palestine. | | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 23:39 - Oct 13 with 1047 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 22:19 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack |
The Israelis released today were POWs not hostages. At least they had homes to go
Back to, unlike the Palestinian prisoners,
They looked healthier than the released Palestinians held in Israeli
Prisons too |
Ask yourself why no other Arab country will.take any Palestinian in as their brother/sister | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 23:44 - Oct 13 with 1040 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 23:39 - Oct 13 by Boundy |
Ask yourself why no other Arab country will.take any Palestinian in as their brother/sister |
Hamas have asked for the like of these to be released, you won't see people queuing up to take them.
Mohammad Abu Warda, who murdered 46 people in two bus bombings in the Nineties; Arafat Irfaiya, who rejoiced in raping and murdering Ori Ansbacher, 19, in 2019; and Mahmoud Atallah, who was sentenced to life in prison for the murder of a Palestinian woman accused of collaborating with Israel and went on to rape female prison guards. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 02:21 - Oct 14 with 996 views | Robbie |
Another Afganistan problem upcoming , Taliban took control once any sense of law and order was removed albiet by Uncle Sam and the Uk , Sharia law is now even more there .
Hamas will take control of vacuum left after the IDF leave and the chaos will never end . | | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:45 - Oct 14 with 891 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 02:21 - Oct 14 by Robbie |
Another Afganistan problem upcoming , Taliban took control once any sense of law and order was removed albiet by Uncle Sam and the Uk , Sharia law is now even more there .
Hamas will take control of vacuum left after the IDF leave and the chaos will never end . |
Hamas has reinstated its public execution policy. Questions of hostage or prisoner are avoided.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg02zp7j2rt [Post edited 14 Oct 12:05]
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:17 - Oct 14 with 847 views | Boundy |
Yep just saw this on another social media outlet,why are the military now restarting public executions on their own people ,maybe Trampie would care to comment? | |
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