Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 11:10 - Oct 14 with 777 views | WiliiamBlakeWasAnR |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 09:30 - Oct 14 by BrizR | I don't follow the DS at all really, do you have a sense of what they're doing? Are they still playing 433 or have they switched styles to match? |
I don't watch the DS either... But good point, if the DS are still playing possession football and shipping avoidable goals in 7-1 defeats to teams with managers who were once portly players, then I'm talking rubbish, and JS has single-handedly torn up the game model and the board are seething. Anyone know? |  | |  |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 11:11 - Oct 14 with 777 views | Andybrat |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 10:43 - Oct 14 by Northernr | It's being edited, will be up today or tomorrow. |
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Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 11:20 - Oct 14 with 719 views | francisbowles | I'd like us to be a bit more direct with free kicks. NI put the Germans under a fair bit of pressure with 3 or 4 free kicks around the half way line, which they played into the box. By way of variation they also played one short and ran at the deep defence which was expecting the long ball. Oh, I also noticed the Germans taken a long throw! |  | |  |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 11:21 - Oct 14 with 712 views | WiliiamBlakeWasAnR |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 08:39 - Oct 14 by Northernr | Without getting into semantics, you can't on the one hand say "we've got a game model we want all the teams within the club to play" and then flip the first team to 4-4-2, direct and counter attacking three games into the season and pretend that's still part of the model. Andrew has provided very specific quotes in the piece about what the game model is supposed to look like, and it ain't this. I'm delighted though. We needed to adapt and we have. |
I'm wondering whether you can, if all the game model means is that all the teams at the club play a similar way, and that way is whatever the club decides is best at that point in its development. After all, these things are not stuck in amber. I appreciate the effort made by Andrew to find the quotes, but that was over a year and another manager ago. Perhaps they decided as a club after the Cov Catstrophe to change what the game model was prescribing? And perhaps there isn't some on-pitch/off-pitch tension at the club with this manager? Ultimately, I don't know. None of us do. Delighted too though, feeling really positive for the season. |  | |  |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 11:42 - Oct 14 with 624 views | 1BobbyHazell |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 11:21 - Oct 14 by WiliiamBlakeWasAnR | I'm wondering whether you can, if all the game model means is that all the teams at the club play a similar way, and that way is whatever the club decides is best at that point in its development. After all, these things are not stuck in amber. I appreciate the effort made by Andrew to find the quotes, but that was over a year and another manager ago. Perhaps they decided as a club after the Cov Catstrophe to change what the game model was prescribing? And perhaps there isn't some on-pitch/off-pitch tension at the club with this manager? Ultimately, I don't know. None of us do. Delighted too though, feeling really positive for the season. |
No, you can't. |  | |  |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 12:05 - Oct 14 with 553 views | themodfather | well i admit not reading every thread but stats are one thing and can help but results count, win 30 awful games 1-0 and you are up. lose the others 5 or 6 nil but win 30 and up. unless you are sheff united of course. |  | |  |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 13:12 - Oct 14 with 424 views | kensalriser |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 09:49 - Oct 14 by KensalT | Problem there is you are comparing a team sport of eleven aside which is supposed to be two 45 minute halves of continuous play with an individual sport which has plenty of breaks in play for the players to sit down and reassess. Even in doubles tennis there are plenty of rest breaks to compare notes and agree strategy. That's much harder to do in football where all eleven players need to be singing from the same song sheet. It can be done but usually you need a lengthy break in play for the coach to get his message across to the players. Charlton did do it to us recently where we caught them cold in the first half and Nathan Jones used a break in the play to get the players together and rejig their system. So it can be done but it usually comes from the coach, who isn't on the pitch. Whereas in tennis the players can work it out for themselves. |
Sure, it's not a perfect analogy but that's the problem with analogies. The core of the argument is sound, as you concede, and it's clearly possible to do it even on the pitch - the manager can communicate to the players and the captain should help facilitate that. Sport is all about finding an advantage and exploiting your opponent's weaknesses while mitigating your own. Adaptability is a key part of that. |  |
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Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 13:32 - Oct 14 with 382 views | KensalT |
Possession, nine-tenths of the problem? – Analysis on 13:12 - Oct 14 by kensalriser | Sure, it's not a perfect analogy but that's the problem with analogies. The core of the argument is sound, as you concede, and it's clearly possible to do it even on the pitch - the manager can communicate to the players and the captain should help facilitate that. Sport is all about finding an advantage and exploiting your opponent's weaknesses while mitigating your own. Adaptability is a key part of that. |
I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pointing out that it's not an easy thing to do during a football match. Going back to the Charlton game I'm sure their players realised very quickly that they were set up all wrong and we weren't playing the way they anticipated but it needed a break in play for Nathan Jones to get involved and tell them what to do about it. The Charlton players weren't able to solve the problem by themselves. |  | |  |
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