| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 10:45 - Oct 15 with 1500 views | PatfromPoole |
It's not just his starting line-ups.
It's also the substitutions which often make no sense.
A lot of the players must be scratching their heads wondering what the hell is going on.
It is almost as if he pulls the names out of a hat each week for the starting line-up, and then does another draw in the dressing-room at half-time to decide who comes on as sub. [Post edited 15 Oct 10:45]
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:10 - Oct 15 with 1448 views | DorsetIan |
If the quality was there in the squad - and particularly the quality in the 'spine' - then the team would be picking itself by now.
It's not. There are weaknesses all over the pitch. So Still is desperately moving the deckchairs in the hope of something clicking. |  |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:24 - Oct 15 with 1434 views | Ifonly |
"When Ross Stewart was injured in the same game, he didn't replace him like for like..."
Who is a like for like replacement for Stewart?? Seriously, say who. In reality, there is nobody and that is WS's main problem. I'm sure he would like to play Stewart every week instead of chopping and changing but he can't.
So what does he do? He has to find a system that works without a centre forward. That's a tricky proposition for a manager who wants to get the ball forward quickly and get crosses in the box. I'm not surprised he's struggling to find answers. | | | |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:26 - Oct 15 with 1429 views | SaintNick |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:10 - Oct 15 by DorsetIan |
If the quality was there in the squad - and particularly the quality in the 'spine' - then the team would be picking itself by now.
It's not. There are weaknesses all over the pitch. So Still is desperately moving the deckchairs in the hope of something clicking. |
I would disagree there are weaknesses all over the pitch, all we lack on the pitch is a leader and organiser.
In the centre of defence we have THB, Stephens, Edwards, Wood all proven at Championship level plus Quarshie who is improving, so that is 5 options.
We have when all fit 4 full backs, in Roerslev & Manning two who are proven at this level plus Jerling & Wellington.
We have Downes & Charles proven at this level as holding midfielders plus Jander who looks the part. There is also Joe Aribo
In front of them we have Finn Azaz & potentially Jay Robinson.
Out wide we have Fraser, Fellows, Scienza perhaps even Robinson plus Sam Edozie, 3 of those proven at Championship level.
Up front Armstrong, Archer & Stewart all proven at this level and again perhaps Robinson plus of course Downs.
So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?
Two seasons ago there wasn't a better centre half in the Championship than THB, not a better striker than Adam Armstrong when you take into account the number of assists he had when compared to Szmodics the only man who scored more and last season there wasn't many better holding midfielders than Charles or a central attacking midfielders than Finn Azaz |  |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:29 - Oct 15 with 1421 views | saintwizzler |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:24 - Oct 15 by Ifonly |
"When Ross Stewart was injured in the same game, he didn't replace him like for like..."
Who is a like for like replacement for Stewart?? Seriously, say who. In reality, there is nobody and that is WS's main problem. I'm sure he would like to play Stewart every week instead of chopping and changing but he can't.
So what does he do? He has to find a system that works without a centre forward. That's a tricky proposition for a manager who wants to get the ball forward quickly and get crosses in the box. I'm not surprised he's struggling to find answers. |
But we have another Centre Forward.
‘Southampton have signed US striker Damion Downs from German club FC Koln in a deal worth £7m.
The 21-year-old, 6ft 4ins forward was born in Germany but represents the United States internationally.’
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:47 - Oct 15 with 1389 views | saintmark1976 |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:26 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I would disagree there are weaknesses all over the pitch, all we lack on the pitch is a leader and organiser.
In the centre of defence we have THB, Stephens, Edwards, Wood all proven at Championship level plus Quarshie who is improving, so that is 5 options.
We have when all fit 4 full backs, in Roerslev & Manning two who are proven at this level plus Jerling & Wellington.
We have Downes & Charles proven at this level as holding midfielders plus Jander who looks the part. There is also Joe Aribo
In front of them we have Finn Azaz & potentially Jay Robinson.
Out wide we have Fraser, Fellows, Scienza perhaps even Robinson plus Sam Edozie, 3 of those proven at Championship level.
Up front Armstrong, Archer & Stewart all proven at this level and again perhaps Robinson plus of course Downs.
So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?
Two seasons ago there wasn't a better centre half in the Championship than THB, not a better striker than Adam Armstrong when you take into account the number of assists he had when compared to Szmodics the only man who scored more and last season there wasn't many better holding midfielders than Charles or a central attacking midfielders than Finn Azaz |
Simple question then Nick.
If as you appear to suggest, all is well with the squad and it’s better than most others in The Championship, why are we 17th in the league with nearly 25% of the season gone already ?
Someone or something must be reasonable, exactly whom in your opinion pray ? | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:50 - Oct 15 with 1385 views | SaintNick |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:47 - Oct 15 by saintmark1976 |
Simple question then Nick.
If as you appear to suggest, all is well with the squad and it’s better than most others in The Championship, why are we 17th in the league with nearly 25% of the season gone already ?
Someone or something must be reasonable, exactly whom in your opinion pray ? |
I explained why in the article, did you not read it. | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 12:00 - Oct 15 with 1364 views | Ifonly |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:26 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I would disagree there are weaknesses all over the pitch, all we lack on the pitch is a leader and organiser.
In the centre of defence we have THB, Stephens, Edwards, Wood all proven at Championship level plus Quarshie who is improving, so that is 5 options.
We have when all fit 4 full backs, in Roerslev & Manning two who are proven at this level plus Jerling & Wellington.
We have Downes & Charles proven at this level as holding midfielders plus Jander who looks the part. There is also Joe Aribo
In front of them we have Finn Azaz & potentially Jay Robinson.
Out wide we have Fraser, Fellows, Scienza perhaps even Robinson plus Sam Edozie, 3 of those proven at Championship level.
Up front Armstrong, Archer & Stewart all proven at this level and again perhaps Robinson plus of course Downs.
So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?
Two seasons ago there wasn't a better centre half in the Championship than THB, not a better striker than Adam Armstrong when you take into account the number of assists he had when compared to Szmodics the only man who scored more and last season there wasn't many better holding midfielders than Charles or a central attacking midfielders than Finn Azaz |
"So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?"
There are many weaknesses but the main one is that we have no centre forward. If you think that we have better options at centre forward than any other side in the championship, then say who we should play at centre forward and whether you think that player is better than any of the opposition centre forwards we've seen so far. Do we have better centre forward options than a single one of the clubs we've seen so far? | | | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 12:21 - Oct 15 with 1337 views | SaintNick |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 12:00 - Oct 15 by Ifonly |
"So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?"
There are many weaknesses but the main one is that we have no centre forward. If you think that we have better options at centre forward than any other side in the championship, then say who we should play at centre forward and whether you think that player is better than any of the opposition centre forwards we've seen so far. Do we have better centre forward options than a single one of the clubs we've seen so far? |
I didnt say we had better centre forwards I said we had better attacking options.
If fit Ross Steward has as good a record as anyone else in this division.
The truth is that there aren't many scoring for fun so far in the division, of those 29 players with 3 goals or more in the division only 9 players have a better goals per minute ratio than Adam Armstrong, most of the the players with 5 goals or more.
We could play Armstrong down the middle or we could play a different type of centre forward in Cameron Archer, we could also throw in Damion Downs if we start winning games and have a settled side and you never know.
Haji Wright the top scorer is like Downs American and played in Germany, he is the man who keeps Downs out of the USA side.
He is 27, but his early career saw him move clubs fairly often barely scoring a goal ,it was only when he moved to Denmark aged 22 that he started to score goals, then subsequently Antalyorspor in Turkey where he really took of in 2021 age 23 and now at Coventry.
So that shows writing off Downs just yet may be premature | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 12:49 - Oct 15 with 1286 views | Ifonly |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 12:21 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I didnt say we had better centre forwards I said we had better attacking options.
If fit Ross Steward has as good a record as anyone else in this division.
The truth is that there aren't many scoring for fun so far in the division, of those 29 players with 3 goals or more in the division only 9 players have a better goals per minute ratio than Adam Armstrong, most of the the players with 5 goals or more.
We could play Armstrong down the middle or we could play a different type of centre forward in Cameron Archer, we could also throw in Damion Downs if we start winning games and have a settled side and you never know.
Haji Wright the top scorer is like Downs American and played in Germany, he is the man who keeps Downs out of the USA side.
He is 27, but his early career saw him move clubs fairly often barely scoring a goal ,it was only when he moved to Denmark aged 22 that he started to score goals, then subsequently Antalyorspor in Turkey where he really took of in 2021 age 23 and now at Coventry.
So that shows writing off Downs just yet may be premature |
Obviously Stewart isn't an option because he's injured. Even if he returns he'll probably be lightly used and may well break down again.
You seem to admit that the others aren't really centre forwards. The reality is that we've tried all 3 of them down the middle this season and all 3 have shown they can't play there.
"Attacking options" aren't much use if they rely on a centre forward who doesn't exist or a system we aren't playing. For example, Arma had his best season playing wide in a front 3 with Che Adams as centre forward. That system also relied on slow passing to feet rather than getting the ball forward quickly and winning headers as WS demands.
The truth is that with RS out we don't have a centre forward who can play the way WS wants. That's crucial because that means the whole system falls apart. We've looked good with RS in the side but useless without him.
So, WS has to find a way of playing with what you describe as a "different type of centre forward" i.e. not a real centre forward. That means a whole different way of playing so it's not surprising that will need some experimenting and that will mean chopping and changing.
I reserve judgement on WS, but I do have some sympathy for his plight. Our major weakness at centre forward means he needs to find a completely different solution. | | | |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 13:35 - Oct 15 with 1212 views | PatfromPoole |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:29 - Oct 15 by saintwizzler |
But we have another Centre Forward.
‘Southampton have signed US striker Damion Downs from German club FC Koln in a deal worth £7m.
The 21-year-old, 6ft 4ins forward was born in Germany but represents the United States internationally.’
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6ft 4ins?
This presumably includes his hair, yes? | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 14:17 - Oct 15 with 1174 views | sledger |
its not just a lack of a centre forward,the fact that we concede every game means we need 2 or 3 goals every game,having a liability like manning is always coming back to bite you and to think we let charlie taylor leave to a rival,f+cking mental | | | |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 15:22 - Oct 15 with 1135 views | DorsetIan |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:26 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I would disagree there are weaknesses all over the pitch, all we lack on the pitch is a leader and organiser.
In the centre of defence we have THB, Stephens, Edwards, Wood all proven at Championship level plus Quarshie who is improving, so that is 5 options.
We have when all fit 4 full backs, in Roerslev & Manning two who are proven at this level plus Jerling & Wellington.
We have Downes & Charles proven at this level as holding midfielders plus Jander who looks the part. There is also Joe Aribo
In front of them we have Finn Azaz & potentially Jay Robinson.
Out wide we have Fraser, Fellows, Scienza perhaps even Robinson plus Sam Edozie, 3 of those proven at Championship level.
Up front Armstrong, Archer & Stewart all proven at this level and again perhaps Robinson plus of course Downs.
So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?
Two seasons ago there wasn't a better centre half in the Championship than THB, not a better striker than Adam Armstrong when you take into account the number of assists he had when compared to Szmodics the only man who scored more and last season there wasn't many better holding midfielders than Charles or a central attacking midfielders than Finn Azaz |
I always remember that video of Rodney King being beaten up by the LAPD. In the trial the defence slowed down the vidoe and analysed each truncheon blow frame by frame to demonstrate that he wasn't being beaten he was being, I don't know, tickled in a friendly fashion by fun-loving cops.
You have been pumping out these posts for years telling us how individual by individual we have a great squad of world beaters, when also for years we have been getting weaker and weaker as a team, and dropping further and futher down the league.
The big picture is very clear. | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 16:27 - Oct 15 with 1076 views | SaintNick |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 15:22 - Oct 15 by DorsetIan |
I always remember that video of Rodney King being beaten up by the LAPD. In the trial the defence slowed down the vidoe and analysed each truncheon blow frame by frame to demonstrate that he wasn't being beaten he was being, I don't know, tickled in a friendly fashion by fun-loving cops.
You have been pumping out these posts for years telling us how individual by individual we have a great squad of world beaters, when also for years we have been getting weaker and weaker as a team, and dropping further and futher down the league.
The big picture is very clear. |
I have never said that we have a great squad of "World Beaters" I also have never said that individual by individual we are better than everyone else, only that we had a squad good enough to either stay up or get promoted depending on the situation.
I don't harp on about whether we have a better team than years & years ago, that doesn't matter now, I am merely comparing our squad to others in the division that we are in.
We may be getting weaker as a team year by year, but that is because we have dropped out of the Premier League, so at the moment that is natural, but have we got weaker "Year by Year" was our Premier League team last year weaker than the one that was relegated in 2023 ?
Lyanco, Bella-Kotchap, Bree, Caleta Car, Diallo, Djenepo,Maitland Niles, Onauchu, Perraud, Sulemana and a host of other underperformers who are now seen as superstars when compared to other teams.
Two years ago I said we had a decent team when all were predicting doom & gloom after that relegation, & I was right but it was poorly managed, last season because of that we were done before we were started.
If the big picture is very clear then whats the point in continuing ?
The problem is that in the last 5 years the Premier league has got stronger and if you can hold the middle ground then you can stay there, hence promoted teams going up and down like we have just done.
We have to get back up again and then emulate Forest who managed to stay up and for a while at least hold their own. | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 18:11 - Oct 15 with 988 views | 1ASIN12 |
I’d say we have a squad of good championship players but no standout players .
We could all name a team of 11 they’d all be different and it would be hard to argue against it.
Add in a poor manager with good championship players and doesn’t lead to a play off challenge it leads to where we are now - mid table . | | | |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 18:24 - Oct 15 with 968 views | Butty101 |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:26 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I would disagree there are weaknesses all over the pitch, all we lack on the pitch is a leader and organiser.
In the centre of defence we have THB, Stephens, Edwards, Wood all proven at Championship level plus Quarshie who is improving, so that is 5 options.
We have when all fit 4 full backs, in Roerslev & Manning two who are proven at this level plus Jerling & Wellington.
We have Downes & Charles proven at this level as holding midfielders plus Jander who looks the part. There is also Joe Aribo
In front of them we have Finn Azaz & potentially Jay Robinson.
Out wide we have Fraser, Fellows, Scienza perhaps even Robinson plus Sam Edozie, 3 of those proven at Championship level.
Up front Armstrong, Archer & Stewart all proven at this level and again perhaps Robinson plus of course Downs.
So when compared to any other side in the Championship we have better options all round, where is the weakness ?
Two seasons ago there wasn't a better centre half in the Championship than THB, not a better striker than Adam Armstrong when you take into account the number of assists he had when compared to Szmodics the only man who scored more and last season there wasn't many better holding midfielders than Charles or a central attacking midfielders than Finn Azaz |
It amazes me what a deep knowledge of the championship you have.
And what do you mean by Proven at this level. Is Jack stephens proven at Premiership level as he played 150 games. How is Stewart proven at this level when hes barely managed a 1/4 of a season in the last 4 years? Maybe me we should bring back Terry Paine as he has proven to be decent at the top level in the past. |  |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 18:44 - Oct 15 with 946 views | DorsetIan |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 16:27 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I have never said that we have a great squad of "World Beaters" I also have never said that individual by individual we are better than everyone else, only that we had a squad good enough to either stay up or get promoted depending on the situation.
I don't harp on about whether we have a better team than years & years ago, that doesn't matter now, I am merely comparing our squad to others in the division that we are in.
We may be getting weaker as a team year by year, but that is because we have dropped out of the Premier League, so at the moment that is natural, but have we got weaker "Year by Year" was our Premier League team last year weaker than the one that was relegated in 2023 ?
Lyanco, Bella-Kotchap, Bree, Caleta Car, Diallo, Djenepo,Maitland Niles, Onauchu, Perraud, Sulemana and a host of other underperformers who are now seen as superstars when compared to other teams.
Two years ago I said we had a decent team when all were predicting doom & gloom after that relegation, & I was right but it was poorly managed, last season because of that we were done before we were started.
If the big picture is very clear then whats the point in continuing ?
The problem is that in the last 5 years the Premier league has got stronger and if you can hold the middle ground then you can stay there, hence promoted teams going up and down like we have just done.
We have to get back up again and then emulate Forest who managed to stay up and for a while at least hold their own. |
The problem isn't the Premier League. The problem is Saints under both Gao and Solak. Selling the best players, replacing them with lesser players, and handing the reins to a series of very inexperienced managers.
It would have been nice to have had the likes of Dyche or Cooper in charge, just so we could see what a manager with a proper pedigree could make of the players at his disposal.
What do you mean, what's the point in continuing? It's the lot of a football fan to have to suffer periods of appalling ownership and the inevitable decline that follows. But we're under no obligation to pretend that it's better than it is. | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 19:00 - Oct 15 with 928 views | saintwizzler |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 18:44 - Oct 15 by DorsetIan |
The problem isn't the Premier League. The problem is Saints under both Gao and Solak. Selling the best players, replacing them with lesser players, and handing the reins to a series of very inexperienced managers.
It would have been nice to have had the likes of Dyche or Cooper in charge, just so we could see what a manager with a proper pedigree could make of the players at his disposal.
What do you mean, what's the point in continuing? It's the lot of a football fan to have to suffer periods of appalling ownership and the inevitable decline that follows. But we're under no obligation to pretend that it's better than it is. |
Exactly.
Sport Republic still made a profit of £62m after player sales and buys this summer.
Meanwhile we go with McCarthy in goal and Downes the only fit Centre Forward. | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 20:53 - Oct 15 with 817 views | saintmark1976 |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 11:50 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
I explained why in the article, did you not read it. |
Of course I read your comments Nick as I always do before replying.
Unfortunately due to auto correct or whatever it’s called the word responsible in my response got changed to reasonable.
Fault for this error ultimately lies with me as I didn’t proofread my response satisfactorily.
Now, with the error corrected I ask of you again. If it’s your opinion that the squad is good enough to succeed, who exactly is responsible for us being 17th in The Championship with nearly 25% of the season gone already ? | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 21:01 - Oct 15 with 804 views | SaintNick |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 18:44 - Oct 15 by DorsetIan |
The problem isn't the Premier League. The problem is Saints under both Gao and Solak. Selling the best players, replacing them with lesser players, and handing the reins to a series of very inexperienced managers.
It would have been nice to have had the likes of Dyche or Cooper in charge, just so we could see what a manager with a proper pedigree could make of the players at his disposal.
What do you mean, what's the point in continuing? It's the lot of a football fan to have to suffer periods of appalling ownership and the inevitable decline that follows. But we're under no obligation to pretend that it's better than it is. |
The managerial appointments since we sacked Ralph haven't been great, but that is the way clubs do it these days, they like to appoint young coaches, rather than experienced managers who desert you when they have a bit of success and a bigger club comes calling.
Just like 20 years or so ago when it was the craze to appoint people who had no managerial experience but had been top players.
My point about continuing is this, you either do something about it or you do nothing, if my local pub upped the price of beer, had shoddy unfriendly bar staff who didn't care about serving people and stood around, I would stop going there and either drink at home or go to another pub.
Or I could complain to the manager, complain to the brewery and at least have tried something positive.
Yes you could say I have spent the last 12 years or so saying positive things about players in a team getting slowly worse, but that is the way I am in life, If something isnt going well in life I dont spend my time moaning about it and blaming everyone, I try to get on with it and change the things that I can change and accept the things that i cant.
I want Sport Republic to do well, I want Southampton Football Club to do well, their model isnt about buying poor players cheaply as that means they make a loss on them if they don't get better.
The success of Sport Republic is based on the success of Southampton FC and that means being in the Premier League.
The issue with Sport Republic is that so far they have appointed a series of managers who haven't been up to the job, it hasn't been all bad, 2023/24 was a great season, but SR made mistakes and had some things that were not their fault and we paid for it.
SR are not going to make money by buying a Brazilian nobody and loaning him to a mid table Turkish team that they own, even if they did that 100 times they would't cover their wages.
If we want to have a moan identify the things that they are doing well and then those that they aren't and take them to task on the bad things rather than everything. | |
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 21:56 - Oct 15 with 757 views | Southamptonfan |
| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 21:01 - Oct 15 by SaintNick |
The managerial appointments since we sacked Ralph haven't been great, but that is the way clubs do it these days, they like to appoint young coaches, rather than experienced managers who desert you when they have a bit of success and a bigger club comes calling.
Just like 20 years or so ago when it was the craze to appoint people who had no managerial experience but had been top players.
My point about continuing is this, you either do something about it or you do nothing, if my local pub upped the price of beer, had shoddy unfriendly bar staff who didn't care about serving people and stood around, I would stop going there and either drink at home or go to another pub.
Or I could complain to the manager, complain to the brewery and at least have tried something positive.
Yes you could say I have spent the last 12 years or so saying positive things about players in a team getting slowly worse, but that is the way I am in life, If something isnt going well in life I dont spend my time moaning about it and blaming everyone, I try to get on with it and change the things that I can change and accept the things that i cant.
I want Sport Republic to do well, I want Southampton Football Club to do well, their model isnt about buying poor players cheaply as that means they make a loss on them if they don't get better.
The success of Sport Republic is based on the success of Southampton FC and that means being in the Premier League.
The issue with Sport Republic is that so far they have appointed a series of managers who haven't been up to the job, it hasn't been all bad, 2023/24 was a great season, but SR made mistakes and had some things that were not their fault and we paid for it.
SR are not going to make money by buying a Brazilian nobody and loaning him to a mid table Turkish team that they own, even if they did that 100 times they would't cover their wages.
If we want to have a moan identify the things that they are doing well and then those that they aren't and take them to task on the bad things rather than everything. |
Nick, these owners are utter idiots and I want them out. Their approach is flawed and will never get us anywhere.
It can be analysed how we like, but two relegations in three years, and an obvious decline in the team is there to see. Last season was utterly embarrassing. It's a combination of selling good players and replacing them with worse. The recruitment is continuously pathetic. We needed a striker, not one for the future. We needed a goalkeeper, not one that has already been tried and tested and dropped time and time again. We needed a leader atbthe back, not another load of under 23's and a new contract for a defender who cant lead. It's just continuous f@ck ups.
The experiments are ridiculous. I don't mind a "young" manager, but you need one who has experience of what we are trying to achieve, not one who is totally out of his depth and still learning. Even when we sacked RM, appoint Dyche or something. For all people say about Mark Hughes, his experience and stature kept us up in the end, that season. He was a better option than a foreigner who had no experience of a relegation battle or a naive reserve team manager or a young manager.
If our CEO says this "We can't compete with teams like Man City. They have ten times the resources." Some might say that's honest, but saying it evaporates all hope of ever achieving anything. Palace have won the FA Cup. Bournemouth are right up the top of the table, and continuously achieve in the top league. They are what I call well run clubs.
If we don't get back up quickly, with this bloated squad, we will be just like Reading and Sheffield Wednesday. At least, they can get more of my money, when I do some rock climbing - not. [Post edited 15 Oct 22:10]
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| Constant Re-Shuffling Is The Cause Of Southampton's Problem's on 21:56 - Oct 15 by Southamptonfan |
Nick, these owners are utter idiots and I want them out. Their approach is flawed and will never get us anywhere.
It can be analysed how we like, but two relegations in three years, and an obvious decline in the team is there to see. Last season was utterly embarrassing. It's a combination of selling good players and replacing them with worse. The recruitment is continuously pathetic. We needed a striker, not one for the future. We needed a goalkeeper, not one that has already been tried and tested and dropped time and time again. We needed a leader atbthe back, not another load of under 23's and a new contract for a defender who cant lead. It's just continuous f@ck ups.
The experiments are ridiculous. I don't mind a "young" manager, but you need one who has experience of what we are trying to achieve, not one who is totally out of his depth and still learning. Even when we sacked RM, appoint Dyche or something. For all people say about Mark Hughes, his experience and stature kept us up in the end, that season. He was a better option than a foreigner who had no experience of a relegation battle or a naive reserve team manager or a young manager.
If our CEO says this "We can't compete with teams like Man City. They have ten times the resources." Some might say that's honest, but saying it evaporates all hope of ever achieving anything. Palace have won the FA Cup. Bournemouth are right up the top of the table, and continuously achieve in the top league. They are what I call well run clubs.
If we don't get back up quickly, with this bloated squad, we will be just like Reading and Sheffield Wednesday. At least, they can get more of my money, when I do some rock climbing - not. [Post edited 15 Oct 22:10]
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This is absolutely spot on.
The point about Hughes is correct.
I think it's fine to try out a young inexperienced manager from time to time.
But sticking with them when it's clear that they're not going to cut it is weak, and appointing a similar type to replace them is madness.
Likewise, gambling with positions like goalkeeper and centre forward is a completely reckless way to run a football club. | |
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