| Owain Glyndwr flags 19:22 - Oct 15 with 1721 views | trampie |
In my neck of the woods a couple of Owain Glyndwr flags have gone up, is this in support of 'raise the colours' or is it the opposite ?
Is 'raise the colours' a keep the boat people out message ?, whereas the flag of Glyndwr more of a keep the original boat people out message ?, the area has English signposts blacked out, yes Cymru stickers about and I even seen a white Eagle symbol.
I don't know the meaning of those particular flags but my guess is its not in support of 'raise the flags'. |  |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:16 - Oct 15 with 1324 views | Demitrius |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:12 - Oct 15 by trampie |
I'm just wondering what those flags stood for in this instance, that is all. |
Well....I'd say they're not promoting Hamas and raising issues closer to home.
That's a decent starting point to take them seriously...wouldn't you agree? |  |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:24 - Oct 15 with 1303 views | raynor94 |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:12 - Oct 15 by trampie |
I'm just wondering what those flags stood for in this instance, that is all. |
Always questions proclaiming innocence when you just troll do you get some kind of kick out of it |  |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:25 - Oct 15 with 1296 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:16 - Oct 15 by Demitrius |
Well....I'd say they're not promoting Hamas and raising issues closer to home.
That's a decent starting point to take them seriously...wouldn't you agree? |
The problems caused to the Welsh economy by grey haired white flight you mean ? | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:46 - Oct 15 with 1263 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:24 - Oct 15 by raynor94 |
Always questions proclaiming innocence when you just troll do you get some kind of kick out of it |
There is a group in Swansea that support 'raising the colours' and this being a Swansea football site I thought a poster on here might know if there is a significance to the Owain Glyndwr flags as opposed to Union Jack's that have been put up in some areas like parts of Swansea. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:49 - Oct 15 with 1254 views | Whiterockin |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:46 - Oct 15 by trampie |
There is a group in Swansea that support 'raising the colours' and this being a Swansea football site I thought a poster on here might know if there is a significance to the Owain Glyndwr flags as opposed to Union Jack's that have been put up in some areas like parts of Swansea. |
Apparently they are in support of Reform Wales. |  | | |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:59 - Oct 15 with 1226 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:49 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin |
Apparently they are in support of Reform Wales. |
Only to a point as the Senedd elections are so close they think there is no point in splitting the right wing vote, but once the vote is over they are going to be supporting another right wing party, I hear Tommy Robinson is supporting that party as well.
A lot of these groups have fallen out of love with Farage, they think he is all for himself and the elites and that he can't be trusted, so perhaps on that score they have a point. [Post edited 15 Oct 22:00]
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 22:03 - Oct 15 with 1199 views | Whiterockin |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:59 - Oct 15 by trampie |
Only to a point as the Senedd elections are so close they think there is no point in splitting the right wing vote, but once the vote is over they are going to be supporting another right wing party, I hear Tommy Robinson is supporting that party as well.
A lot of these groups have fallen out of love with Farage, they think he is all for himself and the elites and that he can't be trusted, so perhaps on that score they have a point. [Post edited 15 Oct 22:00]
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We will see who is progressing or regressing next Thursday. | | | |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 22:15 - Oct 15 with 1162 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 22:03 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin |
We will see who is progressing or regressing next Thursday. |
The point is that you might not be aware of is that group are not going to support Reform after the Senedd elections. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 23:18 - Oct 15 with 1101 views | Boundy |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:46 - Oct 15 by trampie |
There is a group in Swansea that support 'raising the colours' and this being a Swansea football site I thought a poster on here might know if there is a significance to the Owain Glyndwr flags as opposed to Union Jack's that have been put up in some areas like parts of Swansea. |
which areas of the City are these Union Flags flying ,nothing specific just the areas will do ? |  |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 23:33 - Oct 15 with 1079 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 23:18 - Oct 15 by Boundy |
which areas of the City are these Union Flags flying ,nothing specific just the areas will do ? |
The video I seen it looked like they were on a footbridge at the bottom of the Hafod, not far from Dyfatty flats, Carmarthen Road sort of area, a right wing group based in Swansea put a video up not so long ago where they were flying flags. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 23:49 - Oct 15 with 1052 views | Boundy |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 23:33 - Oct 15 by trampie |
The video I seen it looked like they were on a footbridge at the bottom of the Hafod, not far from Dyfatty flats, Carmarthen Road sort of area, a right wing group based in Swansea put a video up not so long ago where they were flying flags. |
Really did they ,are they still there ? | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 07:46 - Oct 16 with 971 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 23:49 - Oct 15 by Boundy |
Really did they ,are they still there ? |
No idea, I doubt the Union Jack's are still there as councils have been said to be taking them down due to them being a distraction to drivers, plus November 5th is coming up.
There again the Owain Glyndwr flags have been up for weeks now and they haven't been taken down so who knows. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 08:15 - Oct 16 with 941 views | Boundy |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 07:46 - Oct 16 by trampie |
No idea, I doubt the Union Jack's are still there as councils have been said to be taking them down due to them being a distraction to drivers, plus November 5th is coming up.
There again the Owain Glyndwr flags have been up for weeks now and they haven't been taken down so who knows. |
You seen to know very little idea about anything in life , how the devil have you managed so far and now yet another question for you to ponder over . [Post edited 16 Oct 12:24]
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 13:09 - Oct 16 with 803 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh Reform voters are using this flag in order to project Welshness while d promoting a party who do not have a policy on the Senedd. Their Welsh supporters who post on line are mostly in favour the abolition of the Senedd and limited self rule. Many if them prefer the Union flag and using the OG flag for convenience only
It is a scam. Wave the flag to impress the unsophisticated and then shut the Senedd they see as a cabal of leftist woke type.
UK have traditionally been ambivalent about flag compared to other countries. Never trust a man wrapped in a flag. It is an optical trick.
Waving a flag and singing the anthem wins nothing as all Welsh fans know.
Reformers want to take the country back but will resist effective measures like the introduction of mandatory ID card s [Post edited 16 Oct 13:12]
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 13:36 - Oct 16 with 763 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:12 - Oct 15 by trampie |
I'm just wondering what those flags stood for in this instance, that is all. |
I imagine they stand for Owain Glyndwr, a staunch ally of Richard II who fought alongside him and his English army in campaigns against the lords of Wales and Scotland. [Post edited 16 Oct 13:58]
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 17:38 - Oct 16 with 652 views | jack247 |
Although I rarely agree Trampie and think the rabid Welsh nationalists and rabid British nationalists have a lot more in common than he would admit, he is right about the lads with the Union Jacks and the Reform banners. They were there an hour ago and had a lot of support from passing motorists | | | |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 18:00 - Oct 16 with 633 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 17:38 - Oct 16 by jack247 |
Although I rarely agree Trampie and think the rabid Welsh nationalists and rabid British nationalists have a lot more in common than he would admit, he is right about the lads with the Union Jacks and the Reform banners. They were there an hour ago and had a lot of support from passing motorists |
Thing is the “rabid nationalists” are nowhere near significant or numerous enough to even come close to win a general election. But if the polls are to be believed reform are sitting around 38%. There has been a massive shift towards ordinary mild mannered people who were previously pretty tolerant and welcoming of outsiders now saying this has gone way too far.
It’s assumed that reform are picking up a lot of votes from dissatisfied Tories which is probably true but if you look at the areas reform seem to be gaining most traction it’s the industrial heartlands where Labour have ruled for a century.
It’s the biggest seismic shift since Labour did the exact same thing to the Liberals in the 1920’s. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 18:26 - Oct 16 with 608 views | Boundy |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 18:00 - Oct 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Thing is the “rabid nationalists” are nowhere near significant or numerous enough to even come close to win a general election. But if the polls are to be believed reform are sitting around 38%. There has been a massive shift towards ordinary mild mannered people who were previously pretty tolerant and welcoming of outsiders now saying this has gone way too far.
It’s assumed that reform are picking up a lot of votes from dissatisfied Tories which is probably true but if you look at the areas reform seem to be gaining most traction it’s the industrial heartlands where Labour have ruled for a century.
It’s the biggest seismic shift since Labour did the exact same thing to the Liberals in the 1920’s. |
My understanding is that the political system in this country has been simplified in that if you vote for Labour you're a t*** & Reform a raving fully paid up member of the nazi party .Less said about the rest to be better. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 19:11 - Oct 16 with 579 views | jack247 |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 18:00 - Oct 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Thing is the “rabid nationalists” are nowhere near significant or numerous enough to even come close to win a general election. But if the polls are to be believed reform are sitting around 38%. There has been a massive shift towards ordinary mild mannered people who were previously pretty tolerant and welcoming of outsiders now saying this has gone way too far.
It’s assumed that reform are picking up a lot of votes from dissatisfied Tories which is probably true but if you look at the areas reform seem to be gaining most traction it’s the industrial heartlands where Labour have ruled for a century.
It’s the biggest seismic shift since Labour did the exact same thing to the Liberals in the 1920’s. |
I meant in terms of ideology not significance, but yes, you’re absolutely right.
Your first paragraph probably applies to me.
I don’t think I’ve got very much at all in common with the Rangers as a second team mob, but I may find myself voting with them.
Like many, I’m looking at the type of party I’d never have considered in the past. I probably won’t vote reform, but it’s not the definite no it would have been. | | | |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 19:41 - Oct 16 with 540 views | trampie |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 17:38 - Oct 16 by jack247 |
Although I rarely agree Trampie and think the rabid Welsh nationalists and rabid British nationalists have a lot more in common than he would admit, he is right about the lads with the Union Jacks and the Reform banners. They were there an hour ago and had a lot of support from passing motorists |
I don't know what you class as, or your definition of what constitutes rabid British and rabid Welsh nationalists ?
I don't know any of either type, there may be no Welsh types and less than 100 British types (in England/Wales), are there any Welsh proscribed groups ? - don't think so, are there any proscribed British nationalist groups - may be a few in number. I don't really know. | |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 19:52 - Oct 16 with 527 views | jack247 |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 19:41 - Oct 16 by trampie |
I don't know what you class as, or your definition of what constitutes rabid British and rabid Welsh nationalists ?
I don't know any of either type, there may be no Welsh types and less than 100 British types (in England/Wales), are there any Welsh proscribed groups ? - don't think so, are there any proscribed British nationalist groups - may be a few in number. I don't really know. |
You are probably one of very few that doesn’t understand which demographics I’m referring to | | | |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:04 - Oct 16 with 467 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 18:00 - Oct 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Thing is the “rabid nationalists” are nowhere near significant or numerous enough to even come close to win a general election. But if the polls are to be believed reform are sitting around 38%. There has been a massive shift towards ordinary mild mannered people who were previously pretty tolerant and welcoming of outsiders now saying this has gone way too far.
It’s assumed that reform are picking up a lot of votes from dissatisfied Tories which is probably true but if you look at the areas reform seem to be gaining most traction it’s the industrial heartlands where Labour have ruled for a century.
It’s the biggest seismic shift since Labour did the exact same thing to the Liberals in the 1920’s. |
To quote my cousin, he is a HGV driver, I really can't see anything that the Senedd has done for me, apart from block the M4 , which means I often run out of Tacho time. So I'm voting Reform in the May elections out of protest and in the hope that some politicians start listening.
He's not a rabid nationalist nazi, he rarely talks about politics, he and his wife work full time and juggle work with bringing up their daughter.
Those on the left calling Reform voters far right nationalists or nazis are just winding up the disillusioned ordinary voter and feeding the Reform vote. |  |
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| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:08 - Oct 16 with 457 views | Whiterockin |
| Owain Glyndwr flags on 21:04 - Oct 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
To quote my cousin, he is a HGV driver, I really can't see anything that the Senedd has done for me, apart from block the M4 , which means I often run out of Tacho time. So I'm voting Reform in the May elections out of protest and in the hope that some politicians start listening.
He's not a rabid nationalist nazi, he rarely talks about politics, he and his wife work full time and juggle work with bringing up their daughter.
Those on the left calling Reform voters far right nationalists or nazis are just winding up the disillusioned ordinary voter and feeding the Reform vote. |
This all day long and exactly what I have been telling Trampie. Sometimes you say the most when you say nothing at all. | | | |
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