| Field at left back 17:59 - Oct 25 with 2678 views | FDC |
I'm more in the pro-Field than anti-Field camp, but I don't really understand why he's being played there ahead of Esquerdinha generally, unless he's injured, nor why he was brought on chasing the game specifically? I can just about rationalize starting with him there if JS rates him so highly that he wants to find a way to get him on the pitch, but seemed an odd substitution at one nil |  | | |  |
| Field at left back on 19:06 - Oct 25 with 2490 views | Logman |
Looked like a means of shoe-horning him into the team IMHO.
Think Sam is being a bit hard done by at the moment. This looked like the ideal game to put him in in his CDM role. His professionalism would have helped. |  | | |
| Field at left back on 19:11 - Oct 25 with 2473 views | aston_hoop |
I really rate Varane, but Field wouldn't have done a worse job these past couple of weeks in that role. Reckon we take the heat off Varane a bit and give Field and Hayden some midfield minutes alongside the Odense Pirlo
Edit, that is also to say I'd rather we played Esquerdinha at LB when RND isn't available. In fact, I'd rather we played him full stop. Development club and all that [Post edited 25 Oct 19:13]
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| Field at left back on 19:18 - Oct 25 with 2437 views | BklynRanger |
JS has talked quite openly about wanting to keep players involved so their morale doesn't drop so, yeah, I think that's most of it. Though that doesn't make the same amount of sense for Esquerdina who must be well pissed off.
Agree it would make more sense to get Sam on in his normal position a bit more often, or at CB when that makes sense, and if RND isn't fit they should stick to the model and play Esquerdina. |  | | |
| Field at left back on 19:35 - Oct 25 with 2358 views | Hunterhoop |
Varane is playing really poorly. He’s coasting.
Field or Hayden need to start in there ahead of him. |  | | |
| Field at left back on 19:42 - Oct 25 with 2335 views | FDC |
I must be getting old because I don't really understand this, but apparently people are interpreting this as Esquerdinha being pissed off with not making the squad
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| Field at left back on 19:48 - Oct 25 with 2300 views | baz_qpr |
I'd rather see Field at LCB and Mbengue at Right Back tbh Esquedinha is an attacking full back who can cross and could have done with him today. Mbengue was a total liability at CB today his pace gets him out of trouble like the personality and impact but I think Field is actually a better centre back and its not even his main position |  | | |
| Field at left back on 19:55 - Oct 25 with 2270 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Field at left back on 19:42 - Oct 25 by FDC |
I must be getting old because I don't really understand this, but apparently people are interpreting this as Esquerdinha being pissed off with not making the squad
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I don’t get it either, but why wasn’t he in the squad?
Kolli too? I know he played in the DS last night but not injured as far as I know? |  | | |
| Field at left back on 19:58 - Oct 25 with 2261 views | FDC |
| Field at left back on 19:48 - Oct 25 by baz_qpr |
I'd rather see Field at LCB and Mbengue at Right Back tbh Esquedinha is an attacking full back who can cross and could have done with him today. Mbengue was a total liability at CB today his pace gets him out of trouble like the personality and impact but I think Field is actually a better centre back and its not even his main position |
Id rather see him at CM as I think that's where you get the best out of him, so long as there is a player alongside him like Madsen who can do the progressive stuff. He can do a cover job in defense, but I'm not sure he should be blocking other players from being in the team there. | | | |
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| Field at left back on 20:33 - Oct 25 with 2162 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Field at left back on 19:58 - Oct 25 by FDC |
Id rather see him at CM as I think that's where you get the best out of him, so long as there is a player alongside him like Madsen who can do the progressive stuff. He can do a cover job in defense, but I'm not sure he should be blocking other players from being in the team there. |
The left-back situation is increasingly odd.
We've frequently gone into games with only one left-back among the twenty-player matchday squad. That's unusual, to say the least. well...turns out the reason may be that Field is seen as a live contender for the spot.
In a team with two holding midfielders I would have thought that attacking full-backs were a must. We're going the other way.
We're now sometimes doing this:
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Centre-back-----Centre-back----Centre-back----Holding Midfielder
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It's October. It's early. I know.
And we're doing ok.
But this is unusual. |  |
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| Field at left back on 01:40 - Oct 26 with 1907 views | davman |
Just think what this team could be with two proper attacking full backs as opposed to the predominately defensive Dunne and RND. Esquerdinha particularly frustrating as he's shown enough to deserve a run in the first team, but gets overshadowed.
For all the positives on youth recruitment, Morgan, Kolli, Bennie, Esquerdinha not getting any minutes in the first team - not quite right at the moment is it? |  |
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| Field at left back on 06:32 - Oct 26 with 1730 views | nix |
| Field at left back on 01:40 - Oct 26 by davman |
Just think what this team could be with two proper attacking full backs as opposed to the predominately defensive Dunne and RND. Esquerdinha particularly frustrating as he's shown enough to deserve a run in the first team, but gets overshadowed.
For all the positives on youth recruitment, Morgan, Kolli, Bennie, Esquerdinha not getting any minutes in the first team - not quite right at the moment is it? |
Kolli and Bennie from memory haven’t been great against very physical, low block kind of teams; they just get pushed around. I’m not sure if Esquerdinha isn’t available for some reason as he hasn’t featured at all after some promising performances. Morgan might have been a good replacement yesterday(not at LB obviously) as we definitely needed someone with some energy who would show for the ball.
I think Stephan is still learning about the Championship and he makes some mistakes that we know are mistakes because we know the players better and how some matches like this are likely to go. I think it’s going too far to say it reflects badly on our youth policy. We’re still a very young team and I can see why he wants some balance between youth and experience. TBH I don’t think it was generally our older players that had poor performances, apart from the Nardi error. |  | | |
| Field at left back on 09:12 - Oct 26 with 1542 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Field at left back on 06:32 - Oct 26 by nix |
Kolli and Bennie from memory haven’t been great against very physical, low block kind of teams; they just get pushed around. I’m not sure if Esquerdinha isn’t available for some reason as he hasn’t featured at all after some promising performances. Morgan might have been a good replacement yesterday(not at LB obviously) as we definitely needed someone with some energy who would show for the ball.
I think Stephan is still learning about the Championship and he makes some mistakes that we know are mistakes because we know the players better and how some matches like this are likely to go. I think it’s going too far to say it reflects badly on our youth policy. We’re still a very young team and I can see why he wants some balance between youth and experience. TBH I don’t think it was generally our older players that had poor performances, apart from the Nardi error. |
Maybe Esquerdinha questioned a senior staffer’s methods too. | | | |
| Field at left back on 14:13 - Oct 26 with 1325 views | nix |
| Field at left back on 09:12 - Oct 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Maybe Esquerdinha questioned a senior staffer’s methods too. |
Or maybe he didn't. Maybe not everything that clip clops is a zebra, sometimes it's a horse. | | | |
| Field at left back on 11:39 - Oct 27 with 1078 views | simmo |
Full back is a problem for how we're supposedly trying to play. We've recruited a lot of inverted wingers, but have exclusively defensive full backs or converted centre backs in the squad and when we have to rely on full backs for width, it falls down.
Not an immediate issue necessarily, but something to look at for next summer perhaps. We're still short the right personnel at full back and central midfield, imo. |  |
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| Field at left back on 11:41 - Oct 27 with 1070 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Field at left back on 14:13 - Oct 26 by nix |
Or maybe he didn't. Maybe not everything that clip clops is a zebra, sometimes it's a horse. |
Yeah, I was being sarcastic. | | | |
| Field at left back on 12:30 - Oct 27 with 979 views | TheChef |
| Field at left back on 11:39 - Oct 27 by simmo |
Full back is a problem for how we're supposedly trying to play. We've recruited a lot of inverted wingers, but have exclusively defensive full backs or converted centre backs in the squad and when we have to rely on full backs for width, it falls down.
Not an immediate issue necessarily, but something to look at for next summer perhaps. We're still short the right personnel at full back and central midfield, imo. |
Sorry, so we're playing inverted wingers to protect our full backs??
I don't think we've specifically bought inverted wingers, have we? That's just how the manager wants to play. |  |
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| Field at left back on 12:44 - Oct 27 with 939 views | simmo |
| Field at left back on 12:30 - Oct 27 by TheChef |
Sorry, so we're playing inverted wingers to protect our full backs??
I don't think we've specifically bought inverted wingers, have we? That's just how the manager wants to play. |
Well it's not necessarily about inverted wingers, but we have a lot of players who want to be more central, and when that happens - specifically like it did against Millwall - we don't have the full backs to overlap and support from wide. It's not about protecting full backs, it's about full backs supporting wingers.
As for specific wingers. Saito, Chair, Smyth are all players whose typical position is LW but are right footed and like to come inside. Vale, Dembele, Poku are RW's who are left footed that like to drift centrally. So actually yes - we have focused more on inverted wingers. You could say that these players should just switch wings, but most were brought here or have played the majority of their games in the positions they're in. | |
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| Field at left back on 12:53 - Oct 27 with 919 views | simmo |
This shows more of what I mean RE fullbacks. In the wrong quarter for both full backs, not enought that it's a huge issue, but something we can address in the future to help move into that top right section and be better on both sides.
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| Field at left back on 13:01 - Oct 27 with 881 views | TheChef |
| Field at left back on 12:53 - Oct 27 by simmo |
This shows more of what I mean RE fullbacks. In the wrong quarter for both full backs, not enought that it's a huge issue, but something we can address in the future to help move into that top right section and be better on both sides.
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Interesting.
Well RND was doing some overlapping on Saturday; Dunne I think less so but then he is not a natural full back.
Bottom line we need to recruit better for these positions. | |
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| Field at left back on 11:34 - Oct 28 with 582 views | BringOnDelve |
| Field at left back on 12:30 - Oct 27 by TheChef |
Sorry, so we're playing inverted wingers to protect our full backs??
I don't think we've specifically bought inverted wingers, have we? That's just how the manager wants to play. |
Given what we have available and their limitations, I'd be minded to play with three at the back - Dunne, Mbengue & Morrison - and use 2 energetic players as wing backs - Bennie/Morgan & Esquerdinha. Appreciate that will affect who and what system is further forward, but worth utilising the youthful energy we have in the squad. Derby performance, and others, was crying out for dynamism. | | | |
| Field at left back on 12:04 - Oct 28 with 535 views | LowerloftLad |
I dont think its just field,I cant be the only person looking at the line ups thinking this seems like QPR player bingo. |  |
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| Field at left back on 12:34 - Oct 28 with 468 views | kensalriser |
Anyone else noticed that the two worst defenders on that chart are both ex QPR players.
Not that BOS learnt how to defend badly at QPR, that's on someone else. |  |
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| Field at left back on 13:08 - Oct 28 with 417 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Field at left back on 12:04 - Oct 28 by LowerloftLad |
I dont think its just field,I cant be the only person looking at the line ups thinking this seems like QPR player bingo. |
To me the squad is starting to look increasingly disjointed. We have some great technical players such as Madsen, Chair, Vale etc. Then on the other hand we have players who look uncomfortable on the ball and can't pass such as Varane, Dunne, Field etc.
We look like a squad without a clear identity. | |
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