| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 09:24 - Oct 26 with 1805 views | saintwizzler |
You should only sack a manager if you replace him with someone better.
Lallana is waiting patiently for the call. |  |
|  |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 12:12 - Oct 26 with 1481 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 09:24 - Oct 26 by saintwizzler |
You should only sack a manager if you replace him with someone better.
Lallana is waiting patiently for the call. |
A man with no management experience? Do we not need someone with experience rather than an experiment |  |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 12:34 - Oct 26 with 1450 views | saintwizzler |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 12:12 - Oct 26 by kingslandstand1 |
A man with no management experience? Do we not need someone with experience rather than an experiment |
Yes, yes we do.
It won’t happen with these owners. | |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 12:45 - Oct 26 with 1412 views | Southamptonfan |
Nick, full credit to you for seeing the disaster that we are all seeing in front of our very eyes, and calling out the decisions made. I think Nick knew, along with myself and a few others, in the summer too, that the Will Still appointment was totally flawed and very risky. A 32 year old telling players older than him what to do, when he didn't even play football himself was destined for disaster.
I call on all Saints fans to save this club from relegation to league one and demand Will Still is sacked, and let's get Sport Republic out. [Post edited 26 Oct 12:50]
|  |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:06 - Oct 26 with 1361 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 12:45 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
Nick, full credit to you for seeing the disaster that we are all seeing in front of our very eyes, and calling out the decisions made. I think Nick knew, along with myself and a few others, in the summer too, that the Will Still appointment was totally flawed and very risky. A 32 year old telling players older than him what to do, when he didn't even play football himself was destined for disaster.
I call on all Saints fans to save this club from relegation to league one and demand Will Still is sacked, and let's get Sport Republic out. [Post edited 26 Oct 12:50]
|
"A 32 year old telling players older than him what to do, when he didn't even play football himself was destined for disaster."
Hmm. You keep saying this. Do you realise this is no different to Fabian Hurzeler? Neither of them played first team football, only reserve team and amateur level. Still has more managerial experience.
Hurzeler was a successful manager at St Pauli from the age of 29 and took over at Brighton at 31. So he must be destined for disaster too right? Those idiots at Brighton don't know what they're doing do they. | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:13 - Oct 26 with 1334 views | Southamptonfan |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:06 - Oct 26 by Ifonly |
"A 32 year old telling players older than him what to do, when he didn't even play football himself was destined for disaster."
Hmm. You keep saying this. Do you realise this is no different to Fabian Hurzeler? Neither of them played first team football, only reserve team and amateur level. Still has more managerial experience.
Hurzeler was a successful manager at St Pauli from the age of 29 and took over at Brighton at 31. So he must be destined for disaster too right? Those idiots at Brighton don't know what they're doing do they. |
The Brighton manager has good players, at a well run established Premier League club. He doesn't need to coach them anything, they are already good, in a set up led by Bloom, who ensures that they always have good players on the pitch. He doesn't need to worry about banging on the owners door for a striker or a leader. His squad is decent.
Saints are in a terrible situation and need an experienced manager to sort this out. Will Still clearly doesn't know what he is doing. His subs yesterday were ridiculous. The fans turned yesterday and at Bristol because he's a terrible manager in this pressured job that he can't handle. If you want to think that being very young, doesn't contribute to his naivety and poor decisons, then that's up to you. Perhaps he is just stupid?
He again, is the wrong appointment at the wrong time. Nathan Jones was the same. A great championship manager, but throwing him into a Premier League relegation battle was ridiculous. He was out of his depth too and almost had a break down. We need to stop the experiments and get a strong, experienced leader of men in the building. [Post edited 26 Oct 13:24]
| |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:14 - Oct 26 with 1328 views | saintmark1976 |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 09:24 - Oct 26 by saintwizzler |
You should only sack a manager if you replace him with someone better.
Lallana is waiting patiently for the call. |
After the way he left us and our form since he has returned, Lallana should be the last person offered the manager position when it next becomes available. | |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:19 - Oct 26 with 1305 views | saintwizzler |
| |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:25 - Oct 26 with 1269 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:13 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
The Brighton manager has good players, at a well run established Premier League club. He doesn't need to coach them anything, they are already good, in a set up led by Bloom, who ensures that they always have good players on the pitch. He doesn't need to worry about banging on the owners door for a striker or a leader. His squad is decent.
Saints are in a terrible situation and need an experienced manager to sort this out. Will Still clearly doesn't know what he is doing. His subs yesterday were ridiculous. The fans turned yesterday and at Bristol because he's a terrible manager in this pressured job that he can't handle. If you want to think that being very young, doesn't contribute to his naivety and poor decisons, then that's up to you. Perhaps he is just stupid?
He again, is the wrong appointment at the wrong time. Nathan Jones was the same. A great championship manager, but throwing him into a Premier League relegation battle was ridiculous. He was out of his depth too and almost had a break down. We need to stop the experiments and get a strong, experienced leader of men in the building. [Post edited 26 Oct 13:24]
|
"The Brghton manager has good players, at a well run established Premier League club. He doesn't need to coach them anything..."
Oh right I see, the manager doesn't need to do any coaching, so it doesn't matter that he's younger than WS because no one has to listen to him. It's at least an interesting opinion, but I'm not sure that Tony Bloom would agree with you about his choice of manager.
But anyway, what you're saying is that Will Still would also be successful at Brighton, even though he's a bit old and has too much managerial experience. | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:34 - Oct 26 with 1241 views | Southamptonfan |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:25 - Oct 26 by Ifonly |
"The Brghton manager has good players, at a well run established Premier League club. He doesn't need to coach them anything..."
Oh right I see, the manager doesn't need to do any coaching, so it doesn't matter that he's younger than WS because no one has to listen to him. It's at least an interesting opinion, but I'm not sure that Tony Bloom would agree with you about his choice of manager.
But anyway, what you're saying is that Will Still would also be successful at Brighton, even though he's a bit old and has too much managerial experience. |
Yes Will Still would have been much better suited to an already decent, well established set up, with much happier fans, rather than the absolute chaos and fan unrest that is here. His lack of experience, just like when Nathan Jones was thrown into a PL dogfight, means that he doesnt know what to do. Just like you send your most experienced police officers to the most difficult situations
What else could it be? Why was Nathan Jones terrible for us in a pressurised premier league league battle, something he had no experience of, but good for Charlton? Why was Russel Martin decent in the championship but terrible.in the PL.
Are you saying Will Still is simply just useless, regardless of his experience? Why are we so.sh!t then? [Post edited 26 Oct 13:36]
| |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:48 - Oct 26 with 1204 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:34 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
Yes Will Still would have been much better suited to an already decent, well established set up, with much happier fans, rather than the absolute chaos and fan unrest that is here. His lack of experience, just like when Nathan Jones was thrown into a PL dogfight, means that he doesnt know what to do. Just like you send your most experienced police officers to the most difficult situations
What else could it be? Why was Nathan Jones terrible for us in a pressurised premier league league battle, something he had no experience of, but good for Charlton? Why was Russel Martin decent in the championship but terrible.in the PL.
Are you saying Will Still is simply just useless, regardless of his experience? Why are we so.sh!t then? [Post edited 26 Oct 13:36]
|
Does Fabian Hurzeler know what to do? He does right, so I think we can agree that if WS doesn't know what to do, it's not simply because he's 32 and didn't play first team football.
As for "why we're so sh1t", there are many reasons and no simple answers. Probably WS's limited experience doesn't help. He'll probably be a better manager in 5 years time. But is that the biggest reason? No, there are many reasons including:
- no centre forward
- carp finishing
- poor goalkeeping
- inexperienced players
- key injuries
- illnesses
- lack of confidence
- bad luck
to name a few. WS isn't completely blameless but the reasons why we're so sh1t run deep. If just a few of these had been slightly different over the last 3 games then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 14:07 - Oct 26 with 1171 views | Southamptonfan |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 13:48 - Oct 26 by Ifonly |
Does Fabian Hurzeler know what to do? He does right, so I think we can agree that if WS doesn't know what to do, it's not simply because he's 32 and didn't play first team football.
As for "why we're so sh1t", there are many reasons and no simple answers. Probably WS's limited experience doesn't help. He'll probably be a better manager in 5 years time. But is that the biggest reason? No, there are many reasons including:
- no centre forward
- carp finishing
- poor goalkeeping
- inexperienced players
- key injuries
- illnesses
- lack of confidence
- bad luck
to name a few. WS isn't completely blameless but the reasons why we're so sh1t run deep. If just a few of these had been slightly different over the last 3 games then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. |
So would you agree that if we had appointed Frank Lampard this season, we probably would have had a better chance of success? A respected, experienced successful player and manager at this level and above?
Or had we appointed Dyche last season, a man who has saved countless clubs from.PL.relegation, would have been better than Jones?
And why would they be better options based on their past experiences? | |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 14:28 - Oct 26 with 1133 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 14:07 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
So would you agree that if we had appointed Frank Lampard this season, we probably would have had a better chance of success? A respected, experienced successful player and manager at this level and above?
Or had we appointed Dyche last season, a man who has saved countless clubs from.PL.relegation, would have been better than Jones?
And why would they be better options based on their past experiences? |
I'd say that if we had signed Haaland at 9 then we'd have had a good chance of success. But that was never going to happen and that's true for Lampard too. Lampard will probably go on to be a really good manager but he wasn't an option for us in all probability.
Dyche, similarly, was never an option for us but I doubt that he'd have helped us anyway. Dyche relies on physicality and we didn't have much in our squad (still don't).
Similarly for Rohl. He said he wanted to manage in Germany so, at the time we were looking, the facts suggest he wasn't an option either.
What's true for any appointee in any role is that experience helps but it isn't the be all and end all. Many inexperienced people have been appointed and gone on to succeed because they had other attributes. Typically the person in charge puts experienced people alongside them and has faith that they will quickly gain the experience. | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 14:43 - Oct 26 with 1087 views | Southamptonfan |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 14:28 - Oct 26 by Ifonly |
I'd say that if we had signed Haaland at 9 then we'd have had a good chance of success. But that was never going to happen and that's true for Lampard too. Lampard will probably go on to be a really good manager but he wasn't an option for us in all probability.
Dyche, similarly, was never an option for us but I doubt that he'd have helped us anyway. Dyche relies on physicality and we didn't have much in our squad (still don't).
Similarly for Rohl. He said he wanted to manage in Germany so, at the time we were looking, the facts suggest he wasn't an option either.
What's true for any appointee in any role is that experience helps but it isn't the be all and end all. Many inexperienced people have been appointed and gone on to succeed because they had other attributes. Typically the person in charge puts experienced people alongside them and has faith that they will quickly gain the experience. |
Ah yes, but in this particular case, we needed an experienced leader didn't we, not one who will "gain the experience". We can't afford to give people time to learn and gain experience. Nathan Jones is a good manager in the championship, but was out of his depth im the PL. And why was that? What other answer can be other than he didnt have the experience of managing in the PL, let alone a toxic relegation battle.
I know that the police send experienced officers to the most difficult situations and / or they lead it. That's because they have more experience right? It's like.sending an officer in their first year to deal with a major terrorist event, so that "they can learn". Not the appropriate time to have youngsters learning right, without senior, experience there.
This is a massively tough job at Saints, after a terrible season last season. We needed experience to steady the ship. WS is lost and hasn't a clue what to do. This job is not the time.for him to.learn whilst our club goes into oblivion. You say about the striker and the goalkeeper. WS said we didn't need a striker. I would say that is because he is naive and inexperienced or too young to call it out and tell his bossess to f@ck.off. Dyche wasn't appointed because our owners know he wouldn't take any sh!t. They Brighton manager can learn because he has good players, experienced people around him and a decent set up.
Appointing such an inexperienced manager, who has little experience as a player and manager, was the wrong decisons for Saints, so was appointing Nathan Jones in the PL.
And as for attributes, what were they thinking? Will Still is as boring as they come. The players clearly arn't motivated. [Post edited 26 Oct 14:55]
| |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 15:57 - Oct 26 with 970 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 14:43 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
Ah yes, but in this particular case, we needed an experienced leader didn't we, not one who will "gain the experience". We can't afford to give people time to learn and gain experience. Nathan Jones is a good manager in the championship, but was out of his depth im the PL. And why was that? What other answer can be other than he didnt have the experience of managing in the PL, let alone a toxic relegation battle.
I know that the police send experienced officers to the most difficult situations and / or they lead it. That's because they have more experience right? It's like.sending an officer in their first year to deal with a major terrorist event, so that "they can learn". Not the appropriate time to have youngsters learning right, without senior, experience there.
This is a massively tough job at Saints, after a terrible season last season. We needed experience to steady the ship. WS is lost and hasn't a clue what to do. This job is not the time.for him to.learn whilst our club goes into oblivion. You say about the striker and the goalkeeper. WS said we didn't need a striker. I would say that is because he is naive and inexperienced or too young to call it out and tell his bossess to f@ck.off. Dyche wasn't appointed because our owners know he wouldn't take any sh!t. They Brighton manager can learn because he has good players, experienced people around him and a decent set up.
Appointing such an inexperienced manager, who has little experience as a player and manager, was the wrong decisons for Saints, so was appointing Nathan Jones in the PL.
And as for attributes, what were they thinking? Will Still is as boring as they come. The players clearly arn't motivated. [Post edited 26 Oct 14:55]
|
So let me get this right. To you, WS is fatally flawed because he only has 7.5 years as a professional football manager, including 3 in the league ranked the 4th best in the world.
Meanwhile, you've probably got no relevant experience at all, yet you can look at how we're playing and instantly know that it's WS's fault because he doesn't have enough experience (perhaps because you don't think they play proper football in France or something?). How come if inexperience is such a big problem for WS then it isn't a problem for you? | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:10 - Oct 26 with 939 views | Southamptonfan |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 15:57 - Oct 26 by Ifonly |
So let me get this right. To you, WS is fatally flawed because he only has 7.5 years as a professional football manager, including 3 in the league ranked the 4th best in the world.
Meanwhile, you've probably got no relevant experience at all, yet you can look at how we're playing and instantly know that it's WS's fault because he doesn't have enough experience (perhaps because you don't think they play proper football in France or something?). How come if inexperience is such a big problem for WS then it isn't a problem for you? |
Ok whatever, you are the only person arguing with me on here, I will not respond any further than this as I know what you are doing. I know you can't stand it that I was right and you were wrong. Will Still is terrible, how did I know it would be so, you got it wrong oops 🤭. You don't bother me in the slightest, just that you think Will Still is great, ok let's see how many agree.
Did you read Nick's match reviews? He wants Will Still out, and still do I. 2000 fans sang Will Still out yesterday and he was booed at Bristol and I was there.
You think Will Still is doing a good job. OK well enjoy the defeats until he is sacked. Have a good evening and bore off saying how it's not the managers fault. What a shame you were wrong. What a terrible appointment he was. Let's see if you get your wish and he stays shall we. Unless ofcourse you're a skate and want SFC to keep losing. Hmm I wonder.
Will Still OUT
Sport Republic OUT. [Post edited 26 Oct 16:35]
| |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:38 - Oct 26 with 856 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:10 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
Ok whatever, you are the only person arguing with me on here, I will not respond any further than this as I know what you are doing. I know you can't stand it that I was right and you were wrong. Will Still is terrible, how did I know it would be so, you got it wrong oops 🤭. You don't bother me in the slightest, just that you think Will Still is great, ok let's see how many agree.
Did you read Nick's match reviews? He wants Will Still out, and still do I. 2000 fans sang Will Still out yesterday and he was booed at Bristol and I was there.
You think Will Still is doing a good job. OK well enjoy the defeats until he is sacked. Have a good evening and bore off saying how it's not the managers fault. What a shame you were wrong. What a terrible appointment he was. Let's see if you get your wish and he stays shall we. Unless ofcourse you're a skate and want SFC to keep losing. Hmm I wonder.
Will Still OUT
Sport Republic OUT. [Post edited 26 Oct 16:35]
|
Where did I say that WS is great? I haven't said that at all.
As for "what I'm doing" I'm just showing that your argument doesn't make any sense. Sorry if you don't like that but hopefully it will stop you endlessly saying that "a 32 year old telling players older than him what to do, when he didn't even play football himself was destined for disaster."
I think WS may well fail and be sacked, but not for the reason you bang on about. | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:45 - Oct 26 with 832 views | Southamptonfan |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:38 - Oct 26 by Ifonly |
Where did I say that WS is great? I haven't said that at all.
As for "what I'm doing" I'm just showing that your argument doesn't make any sense. Sorry if you don't like that but hopefully it will stop you endlessly saying that "a 32 year old telling players older than him what to do, when he didn't even play football himself was destined for disaster."
I think WS may well fail and be sacked, but not for the reason you bang on about. |
You won't stop me doing or saying f@ck all.
Still OUT. Far too young and inexperienced. [Post edited 26 Oct 16:46]
| |
| |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:51 - Oct 26 with 810 views | Ifonly |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 16:45 - Oct 26 by Southamptonfan |
You won't stop me doing or saying f@ck all.
Still OUT. Far too young and inexperienced. [Post edited 26 Oct 16:46]
|
I didn't think so, but I thought it would be nice to get another reply from you after you said you weren't going to reply any more. | | | |
| Southampton At Blackburn Rovers The Verdict on 10:27 - Oct 27 with 441 views | jopreston |
What happened at Blackburn showed exactly why I said to not give Still more time. He shows one or two games where we look OK, then steps back for two games to utter disorganized rubbish. Either he has lost the players or lost the plot. he is totally inconsistent in every way. I am sorry to say it will not work out.
I agree changing managers all the time is crazy, but with SR we have little choice as each one they pick is crap. We just have to keep rolling the dice and hope they get lucky with one decision, but it is not going to be Still I am afraid. Not a chance in hell. |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
