| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 244059 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:36 - Nov 20 by Groo |
Bollox it did, they were persuaded to change their mind due to the outcry because they didn't follow the normal procedure. They only changed their mind again because of Trump's call begging them to change back.
Not listened to the video, but assume he did make threatening remarks and if so I hope he gets a knock on the door, threatening in such a way is a criminal offence. |
Not sure what you mean by bollocks, the proof it in the post I made plus the mass posts online showing which school their children went to and an arrow to their house on google maps with the words ''racists live here''.
You seem to be coming to your own conclusions as opposed to the reality of the situation. You were told at the time why they clearly changed their mind, there was a mass and sustained attack on them until they changed their mind.
He isn't come random guy, he is the Democratic organizer and the representative elect for Michigan's 4th House of Representatives district. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 1:16]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:17 - Nov 20 with 1494 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:47 - Nov 20 by Groo |
If Trump did the unimaginable and managed to use legistature to overule a valid election, how long before States start breaking away from the US? |
That is down to interpretation I suppose. Is it valid just because you want it to be? Who deems a vote valid or invalid?
If it is overruled there will be reasons for that, which is the exact reason I warned against these new voting processes that were always going to cause huge mistrust and uncertainty.
But the Democrats didn't have faith in winning if it was conducted the normal way, so in their mind they had little to lose I guess. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 1:18]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:37 - Nov 20 with 1437 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:34 - Nov 20 by Kilkennyjack |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:43 - Nov 20 with 1432 views | Dr_Parnassus |
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He can remind who he likes.
The vote is over, not the election. For the election to be over we first have to determine the vote was democratic and above board.
That process is still underway. As you have shown the gap in Georgia alone has shrunk by 12%. That should never happen. And if it is to happen then these things should go both ways.
The fact it has closed 12% with every error found to have initially helped Biden is an anomaly in itself. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:31 - Nov 20 with 1401 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:43 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
He can remind who he likes.
The vote is over, not the election. For the election to be over we first have to determine the vote was democratic and above board.
That process is still underway. As you have shown the gap in Georgia alone has shrunk by 12%. That should never happen. And if it is to happen then these things should go both ways.
The fact it has closed 12% with every error found to have initially helped Biden is an anomaly in itself. |
Is that Georgia done, then? |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:59 - Nov 20 with 1390 views | majorraglan |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:17 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
That is down to interpretation I suppose. Is it valid just because you want it to be? Who deems a vote valid or invalid?
If it is overruled there will be reasons for that, which is the exact reason I warned against these new voting processes that were always going to cause huge mistrust and uncertainty.
But the Democrats didn't have faith in winning if it was conducted the normal way, so in their mind they had little to lose I guess. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 1:18]
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The fact that judges to the Supreme Court are politically appointed in accordance with their political leanings could easily see a “perverse” outcome delivered in a case. What’s happening out there now is in my mind outrageous. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 7:59]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:00 - Nov 20 with 1388 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:31 - Nov 20 by Gwyn737 |
Is that Georgia done, then? |
As done as anything can be in this election process I suppose, I know they weren’t happy with the recount process and only a certain amount of votes were re-countable. So it will be sorted out in the Supreme Court but there is 0.25% between them now (12,000 votes) and an initial audit showed the initial gap cut by 10%+ with every discrepancy helping Biden prior to being found. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:39 - Nov 20 with 1341 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:59 - Nov 20 by majorraglan |
The fact that judges to the Supreme Court are politically appointed in accordance with their political leanings could easily see a “perverse” outcome delivered in a case. What’s happening out there now is in my mind outrageous. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 7:59]
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All judges are politically appointed. From state judges where the cases are being heard now to the Supreme Court where they will end up.
That’s why transparency is the greatest strength of any election, something sadly missing in this one, as it was always going to be. Intentionally so I might add, with democrats falling over themselves to make it as covert and invisible as they possibly could.
If people have no faith in the vote and then no faith in the courts, you are in a bit of a pickle. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 11:40]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:14 - Nov 20 with 1321 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:59 - Nov 20 by majorraglan |
The fact that judges to the Supreme Court are politically appointed in accordance with their political leanings could easily see a “perverse” outcome delivered in a case. What’s happening out there now is in my mind outrageous. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 7:59]
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Yes, you are right, what is happening is absolutley outrageous.
The Democrats tried to steal the election by multiple fraud methods and have been caught doing so.
The Mass Media is totally on the side of the Democrats and have assisted them in trying to remove the President for 4 years.
They covered up Biden's corruption and are covering up what has been happening during the original counts and now the Georgia re-count.
The statistical analysis of the original counts have shown that impossible natural counting actions occurred, the mathematics do not lie. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:27 - Nov 20 with 1318 views | Lohengrin |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:39 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
All judges are politically appointed. From state judges where the cases are being heard now to the Supreme Court where they will end up.
That’s why transparency is the greatest strength of any election, something sadly missing in this one, as it was always going to be. Intentionally so I might add, with democrats falling over themselves to make it as covert and invisible as they possibly could.
If people have no faith in the vote and then no faith in the courts, you are in a bit of a pickle. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 11:40]
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” That’s why transparency is the greatest strength of any election, something sadly missing in this one, as it was always going to be.”
For all their self-righteous bluster commitment to the actual tenets of Democracy by the US Democrat party machine is skin-deep at best.
The key to understanding the present is to be found in the past: let’s go back to the 2016 primaries, Doc, and visit West Virginia. Bernie Sanders took all fifty five counties, a complete clean sweep, yet who receives the State nomination of the party machine? Crooked Hilary, of course. Why wouldn’t she?
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:29 - Nov 20 with 1293 views | A_Fans_Dad |
While Biden makes nice noises about bringing the country together and letting bygones br bygones his Partyand the likes of AOC is doing exactly the opposite.
They have, like the good marxists they are started "lists" of Trump supporters they they will hound when Biden wins, even talking about imprisonment and re-education camps.
As well as that the House Dems are calling for the DOJ to investigate the whole Tump Empire.
Biden makes speeches for sound bytes for the mass media while the Democrat party carry on as before.
Total Hypocrites, the lot of them. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 14:50]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:45 - Nov 20 with 1252 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:39 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
All judges are politically appointed. From state judges where the cases are being heard now to the Supreme Court where they will end up.
That’s why transparency is the greatest strength of any election, something sadly missing in this one, as it was always going to be. Intentionally so I might add, with democrats falling over themselves to make it as covert and invisible as they possibly could.
If people have no faith in the vote and then no faith in the courts, you are in a bit of a pickle. [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 11:40]
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Have you watched last nights Election fraud press conference by Rudy, Sidney and Jenna yet? | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:15 - Nov 20 with 1219 views | Groo |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-
"Evidently a researcher, either Mr. Ramsland or someone working for him, was working with a database and confused “MI” for Minnesota with “MI” for Michigan. (The postal code for Minnesota is MN, while Michigan is MI, so one can see how this might happen.) So the affidavit, which addresses “anomalies and red flags” in Michigan, is based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.
This is a catastrophic error, the kind of thing that causes a legal position to crash and burn. Trump’s lawyers are fighting an uphill battle, to put it mildly, and confusing Michigan with Minnesota will at best make the hill steeper. Credibility once lost is hard to regain. Possibly Trump’s lawyers have already discovered this appalling error, and have undertaken to correct it. But the Ramsland Affidavit was filed in Georgia just yesterday." |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:26 - Nov 20 with 1213 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:15 - Nov 20 by Groo |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-
"Evidently a researcher, either Mr. Ramsland or someone working for him, was working with a database and confused “MI” for Minnesota with “MI” for Michigan. (The postal code for Minnesota is MN, while Michigan is MI, so one can see how this might happen.) So the affidavit, which addresses “anomalies and red flags” in Michigan, is based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.
This is a catastrophic error, the kind of thing that causes a legal position to crash and burn. Trump’s lawyers are fighting an uphill battle, to put it mildly, and confusing Michigan with Minnesota will at best make the hill steeper. Credibility once lost is hard to regain. Possibly Trump’s lawyers have already discovered this appalling error, and have undertaken to correct it. But the Ramsland Affidavit was filed in Georgia just yesterday." |
So they can add Minnestota to the list of states that need in depth investigation. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:39 - Nov 20 with 1209 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:26 - Nov 20 by A_Fans_Dad |
So they can add Minnestota to the list of states that need in depth investigation. |
This thread is like no other when it comes to people copy and pasting things from the internet without realising what they are actually stating. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:45 - Nov 20 with 1202 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:45 - Nov 20 by A_Fans_Dad |
Have you watched last nights Election fraud press conference by Rudy, Sidney and Jenna yet? |
Not in full yet, I’ll have a look later today. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:59 - Nov 20 with 1192 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:45 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Not in full yet, I’ll have a look later today. |
Tucker Carlson wasn’t keen... | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:03 - Nov 20 with 1189 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:59 - Nov 20 by Gwyn737 |
Tucker Carlson wasn’t keen... |
Tucker is rightly frustrated and wanted to see some of the evidence, but that isn’t how cases work. You don’t have a prosecution presenting their evidence to the public before the hearing. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:05 - Nov 20 with 1189 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:59 - Nov 20 by Gwyn737 |
Tucker Carlson wasn’t keen... |
He demanded evidence, which is not his right to do.
He really pissed off Sydney Powell. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:30 - Nov 20 with 1178 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:39 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
This thread is like no other when it comes to people copy and pasting things from the internet without realising what they are actually stating. |
What don't I undertand? The affidavit is part of the Trump team’s case relating to Dominion and raising concerns of voter fraud in Michigan.
They included a list of the suspect districts and the figures to go with them, these were actually all Republican districts in Minnesota.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:32 - Nov 20 with 1174 views | Groo |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:44 - Nov 20 with 1164 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:30 - Nov 20 by Groo |
What don't I undertand? The affidavit is part of the Trump team’s case relating to Dominion and raising concerns of voter fraud in Michigan.
They included a list of the suspect districts and the figures to go with them, these were actually all Republican districts in Minnesota.
Is that the bit I don't understand? |
Any and all districts that have more votes than voters needs to be investigated, doesn’t matter what that district is comprised of.
We have seen Dominion fail already when it switched 6000 votes from Trump to Biden. If the person on duty didn’t realise then I very much doubt we would know about it still today.
Dominion has a long history of inaccuracy and fallibility, which is why some leading democrats raised their concern over it in 2019. In a vote such as this, when we are seeing irregularities like we have - then it needs to be investigated.
That’s democracy. You cannot have the thread of widespread software “malfunction”, once it’s proven to have failed once to the tune of a 12,000 swing - it needs deep dive looking at. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:51 - Nov 20 with 1162 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:44 - Nov 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Any and all districts that have more votes than voters needs to be investigated, doesn’t matter what that district is comprised of.
We have seen Dominion fail already when it switched 6000 votes from Trump to Biden. If the person on duty didn’t realise then I very much doubt we would know about it still today.
Dominion has a long history of inaccuracy and fallibility, which is why some leading democrats raised their concern over it in 2019. In a vote such as this, when we are seeing irregularities like we have - then it needs to be investigated.
That’s democracy. You cannot have the thread of widespread software “malfunction”, once it’s proven to have failed once to the tune of a 12,000 swing - it needs deep dive looking at. |
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/michigan-software-glitch-didnt-switch-v
and of course that claim of 6000 is false, of course it is.
edit: I believe we established that claim was false some time ago. :) [Post edited 20 Nov 2020 21:53]
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