| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 244057 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:38 - Nov 19 with 1478 views | Professor |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:33 - Nov 19 by onehunglow |
Paul.Going off at a tangent but I wouln't invite you to my virtual dinner as you are simply too smart and would make me look at jerk |
No problem Rich- have fun and stay safe! |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:40 - Nov 19 with 1470 views | onehunglow |
Im a bit concerned about a menage a trois with tramp and killy though after a few glasses of Cidre | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:43 - Nov 19 with 1466 views | Professor |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:33 - Nov 19 by onehunglow |
Paul.Going off at a tangent but I wouln't invite you to my virtual dinner as you are simply too smart and would make me look at jerk |
Also feeling a bit happier as allowed some limited access to the labs. Seven months felt like eternity. Some people may think being in a deserted building at midnight doing faecal transplants is odd, but was like nirvana for me. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:45 - Nov 19 with 1463 views | onehunglow |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:43 - Nov 19 by Professor |
Also feeling a bit happier as allowed some limited access to the labs. Seven months felt like eternity. Some people may think being in a deserted building at midnight doing faecal transplants is odd, but was like nirvana for me. |
Nirvana!.
Indeed. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:45 - Nov 19 with 1463 views | Professor |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:40 - Nov 19 by onehunglow |
Im a bit concerned about a menage a trois with tramp and killy though after a few glasses of Cidre |
Nah! You will have a great old time. May have a cider tonight. Got a bottle of Gwynt o Ddraig left somewhere | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:53 - Nov 19 with 1445 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Right, now the usual lot have had their usual frustrated meltdowns and let off some much needed steam, back to the thread.
More reports emerging of what forced the GOP reps to buckle after their initial refusal to certify the vote after multiple discrepancies discovered.
This is an area that needs to be looked at going forward. Media driven, leftist bullying cannot be something that can be tolerated or have any part in politics.
It’s essentially state sanctioned corruption.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:09 - Nov 19 with 1408 views | FieryJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:53 - Nov 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Right, now the usual lot have had their usual frustrated meltdowns and let off some much needed steam, back to the thread.
More reports emerging of what forced the GOP reps to buckle after their initial refusal to certify the vote after multiple discrepancies discovered.
This is an area that needs to be looked at going forward. Media driven, leftist bullying cannot be something that can be tolerated or have any part in politics.
It’s essentially state sanctioned corruption.
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Oh shut up, you self-deluding goon.
This is your pet vanity project, your hobbyhorse, your obsession.
For crying out loud, it's even an extension of your actual job, or so you say.
No-one is interested - or very few - in the minutiae of the US election and the voter fraud around it, and that is evidenced, as I've previously alluded to, by the lack of traffic on here.
If you didn't have me, Djack, Prof and Itchy taking the mick out of you, you'd have no one. You should be thankful for our occasional contributions.
80% of the posts on here are probably yours.
Doesn't that tell you something?
"Bore off" is a phrase that springs to mind. |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:25 - Nov 19 with 1399 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:09 - Nov 19 by FieryJack |
Oh shut up, you self-deluding goon.
This is your pet vanity project, your hobbyhorse, your obsession.
For crying out loud, it's even an extension of your actual job, or so you say.
No-one is interested - or very few - in the minutiae of the US election and the voter fraud around it, and that is evidenced, as I've previously alluded to, by the lack of traffic on here.
If you didn't have me, Djack, Prof and Itchy taking the mick out of you, you'd have no one. You should be thankful for our occasional contributions.
80% of the posts on here are probably yours.
Doesn't that tell you something?
"Bore off" is a phrase that springs to mind. |
Yes you have said that Fiery. It’s as eye roll inducing and pathetic now as it was a few hours ago.
Calm down. It’s a forum. You do not have to click on or read anything that clearly frustrates or winds you up.
Rallying your pretend friends, covering up pure anger as “taking the mick” is not going to work. It’s as transparent as that goldfish bag surrounding your existence. I see through the likes of you and your gang that are completely unable to put forward a coherent political view so decide to get angry and attack.
The left is full of your ilk, which is why half of America despises them.
Are you sure you don’t want me to set up a thread for you? It sounds like you need it. Truly. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:36 - Nov 19 with 1388 views | FieryJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:25 - Nov 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes you have said that Fiery. It’s as eye roll inducing and pathetic now as it was a few hours ago.
Calm down. It’s a forum. You do not have to click on or read anything that clearly frustrates or winds you up.
Rallying your pretend friends, covering up pure anger as “taking the mick” is not going to work. It’s as transparent as that goldfish bag surrounding your existence. I see through the likes of you and your gang that are completely unable to put forward a coherent political view so decide to get angry and attack.
The left is full of your ilk, which is why half of America despises them.
Are you sure you don’t want me to set up a thread for you? It sounds like you need it. Truly. |
More balderdash, marked by your usual condescension and sanctimony. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:38 - Nov 19 with 1386 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:36 - Nov 19 by FieryJack |
More balderdash, marked by your usual condescension and sanctimony. |
That’s what floundering people usually say on these forums when they run out of avenues. Your “friends” have often fallen foul of the same behaviour.
Now go and get some fresh air, this thread is about politics, not your tantrums.
If you still feel this way after your stroll, let me know and I will get that thread set up for you. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:50 - Nov 19 with 1354 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:53 - Nov 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Right, now the usual lot have had their usual frustrated meltdowns and let off some much needed steam, back to the thread.
More reports emerging of what forced the GOP reps to buckle after their initial refusal to certify the vote after multiple discrepancies discovered.
This is an area that needs to be looked at going forward. Media driven, leftist bullying cannot be something that can be tolerated or have any part in politics.
It’s essentially state sanctioned corruption.
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I don't agree with any threats but you can see why a lot of people are extremely angry with this pair, their motivation for their actions are very suspect. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:01 - Nov 19 with 1349 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:50 - Nov 19 by Groo |
I don't agree with any threats but you can see why a lot of people are extremely angry with this pair, their motivation for their actions are very suspect. |
I don’t see why anyone would be upset with them.
Their job is to certify a vote IF they feel it is all above board. They don't believe it is and feel a deeper look is needed at it before doing so.
Perfectly sensible position.
It’s amazing how many people seem annoyed by those who are following a democratic process when the result is not one they want. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:29 - Nov 19 with 1339 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:01 - Nov 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don’t see why anyone would be upset with them.
Their job is to certify a vote IF they feel it is all above board. They don't believe it is and feel a deeper look is needed at it before doing so.
Perfectly sensible position.
It’s amazing how many people seem annoyed by those who are following a democratic process when the result is not one they want. |
So lets look at a few facts, as you like them.
* The precedence is, if the discrepancy in a vote looks like it will change the outcome
then don't certify the vote and get a recount.
* If the discrepancy in a vote looks like it will not change the outcome then certify the
vote and highlight the discrepancy to be looked at later.
* The discrepency in this district will not change the overall result (Democrats lead by
140,000 votes, this discrepency may remove as much as 300 votes)
* The same pair certified the vote in the primaries in August when a bigger discrepency
was present in the same district.
* There was a bigger discrpency in 2016 in the same district, when Trump won the
State, the vote was certified.
* There is a bigger discrepency in the same State in another district which is
predominantly white and republican, nothing has been raised on this district.
Their actions are not normal, they are right to raise the fact that this district has constant issues, but this district is not the only one. There are issues in other States but the sensible action is taken to certify the votes and go back and look at the count issues later simple because these issues are small and will not change the overall winner.
These two republicans are of course making waves in an attempt to help Trump overturn a democratic vote where he lost into a win.
If you are so much for democracy I don't understand how you can back such actions, you appear just a little hipocritical. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:32 - Nov 19 with 1334 views | Groo |
Then again you believe a 94 year old woman who identified herself as the wife of a dead person to make her 1 vote to be guilty of fraud.
You lost all the respect you never had with that one. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:16 - Nov 19 with 1325 views | Groo |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:45 - Nov 19 with 1264 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:32 - Nov 19 by Groo |
Then again you believe a 94 year old woman who identified herself as the wife of a dead person to make her 1 vote to be guilty of fraud.
You lost all the respect you never had with that one. |
I don’t believe it to be true, I know it to be true.
If you are annoyed I didn’t agree with the sugarcoating then there is little I can do about that. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:54 - Nov 19 with 1258 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:29 - Nov 19 by Groo |
So lets look at a few facts, as you like them.
* The precedence is, if the discrepancy in a vote looks like it will change the outcome
then don't certify the vote and get a recount.
* If the discrepancy in a vote looks like it will not change the outcome then certify the
vote and highlight the discrepancy to be looked at later.
* The discrepency in this district will not change the overall result (Democrats lead by
140,000 votes, this discrepency may remove as much as 300 votes)
* The same pair certified the vote in the primaries in August when a bigger discrepency
was present in the same district.
* There was a bigger discrpency in 2016 in the same district, when Trump won the
State, the vote was certified.
* There is a bigger discrepency in the same State in another district which is
predominantly white and republican, nothing has been raised on this district.
Their actions are not normal, they are right to raise the fact that this district has constant issues, but this district is not the only one. There are issues in other States but the sensible action is taken to certify the votes and go back and look at the count issues later simple because these issues are small and will not change the overall winner.
These two republicans are of course making waves in an attempt to help Trump overturn a democratic vote where he lost into a win.
If you are so much for democracy I don't understand how you can back such actions, you appear just a little hipocritical. |
- They have no idea if it would change the outcome as only 78% of the vote is recount-able, they feel there are too many discrepancies to be ignored and swept under the carpet. It sounds like they are right too.
- Why the rush to certify? In order to certify they want to ensure the democratic process has played out. They aren’t sure it has. They are not there to appease democrats, they are there to uphold the process. If that upsets people then tough, quite frankly.
- We have absolutely no idea the extent of the discrepancies, and neither do you. Much of the vote is uncountable and there are already “errors” to the tune of thousands and thousands of votes.
- We aren’t talking about a single discrepancy we are talking about multiple. Multiple discrepancies all one way is also a statistical anomaly in itself worthy of exploration.
- Saying 2016 was bad too, is not grounds to certify a vote.
Their whole job is to certify a vote after witnessing its reliability. They clearly do not feel this outcome is reliable and refused to certify.
The Democrat and leftist reaction to that made the whole thing even more suspicious. Unfortunately they caved to what appears to be state sanctioned corruption and signed off on them only to make the right decision the next day and speak up.
This is democracy I am afraid. As I said, it’s amazing how many people criticise it if it doesn’t play out as they like. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:06 - Nov 19 with 1243 views | Gwyn737 |
Stop the presses!!! The super villain has been found. Voting machines were rigged using tech created by Hugo Chavez.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:14 - Nov 19 with 1232 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:06 - Nov 19 by Gwyn737 |
Stop the presses!!! The super villain has been found. Voting machines were rigged using tech created by Hugo Chavez.
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Well, that is not really news.
Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren two congressional Democrats already expressed concerns over the voting system last year.
It's ease to manipulate has been demonstrated several times. This is why an open and transparent election was needed from day 1.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democratic-senators-warned-of-potential- | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:19 - Nov 19 with 1223 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:14 - Nov 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
Well, that is not really news.
Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren two congressional Democrats already expressed concerns over the voting system last year.
It's ease to manipulate has been demonstrated several times. This is why an open and transparent election was needed from day 1.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democratic-senators-warned-of-potential- |
No proof though, is there? I’m concerned there’s a unicorn eating the bird food in the garden.
Having watched the full version with Rudy I was properly belly laughing. It’s hysterical. He doesn’t have to prove crimes, he can ‘smell them’ 🤣 | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:24 - Nov 19 with 1216 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:19 - Nov 19 by Gwyn737 |
No proof though, is there? I’m concerned there’s a unicorn eating the bird food in the garden.
Having watched the full version with Rudy I was properly belly laughing. It’s hysterical. He doesn’t have to prove crimes, he can ‘smell them’ 🤣 |
That's why they are looking into it and want an audit of votes without that system in place.
We have already seen an error in that very system that took 6000 votes off Trump and give them to Biden. Thankfully one individual noticed and stopped using it and used a hand count.
I can't take anyone seriously that says the vote should be accepted without investigation with the amount of unprecedented processes and ''errors'' we have seen to date.
People also making a point that the Trump team isn't accusing individuals of fraud. That's because fraud is intent and it is almost impossible to prove intent. A bit like me going to steal a Xmas cracker set from Tesco's at the self serve - If I get caught then it's an error and not theft simply because I say so.
However a successful attempt has the same result. [Post edited 19 Nov 2020 20:38]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:23 - Nov 19 with 1160 views | Dr_Parnassus |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:36 - Nov 20 with 1133 views | Groo |
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Bollox it did, they were persuaded to change their mind due to the outcry because they didn't follow the normal procedure. They only changed their mind again because of Trump's call begging them to change back.
Not listened to the video, but assume he did make threatening remarks and if so I hope he gets a knock on the door, threatening in such a way is a criminal offence. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:44 - Nov 20 with 1132 views | Groo |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:47 - Nov 20 with 1130 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:44 - Nov 20 by Groo |
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If Trump did the unimaginable and managed to use legistature to overule a valid election, how long before States start breaking away from the US? | |
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