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Salmon v Sturgeon 18:52 - Feb 24 with 12841 viewswelwynranger

Theres something fishy going on in Scotland.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 19:07 - Feb 24 with 6009 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Can only admire their discipline which has held until now. Wish my Party of choice had it.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 19:14 - Feb 24 with 5974 viewsqpr_1968


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Salmon v Sturgeon on 19:49 - Feb 24 with 5911 viewsMrSheen

Salmon v Sturgeon on 19:07 - Feb 24 by BazzaInTheLoft

Can only admire their discipline which has held until now. Wish my Party of choice had it.


How weak of Salmond to demand a fair trial against the interests of the party. No Bukharin, that’s for sure.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 21:57 - Feb 24 with 5786 viewsdistortR

Salmon v Sturgeon on 19:07 - Feb 24 by BazzaInTheLoft

Can only admire their discipline which has held until now. Wish my Party of choice had it.


Some pretty low shenanigans going on up there, aided by a system put in place by labour when they thought Scotland was theirs!
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 18:34 - Feb 26 with 5513 viewsToast_R

Alex Salmond be like
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 21:44 - Feb 26 with 5367 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Salmon v Sturgeon on 19:49 - Feb 24 by MrSheen

How weak of Salmond to demand a fair trial against the interests of the party. No Bukharin, that’s for sure.


Not sure if that was sarky or not but fully behind Salmond’s right to a fair trial. I was merely commenting about how they have until now managed to keep their splits and dramas in house, and how the Labour Party not so much.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 21:46 - Feb 26 with 5362 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Salmon v Sturgeon on 21:57 - Feb 24 by distortR

Some pretty low shenanigans going on up there, aided by a system put in place by labour when they thought Scotland was theirs!


Can’t disagree about the arrogance and shitty antics of Labour North of the border!
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 21:51 - Feb 26 with 5350 viewsMyke

She almost had been a surgeon down to a 't'
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 22:46 - Feb 26 with 5297 viewsMrSheen

Salmon v Sturgeon on 21:44 - Feb 26 by BazzaInTheLoft

Not sure if that was sarky or not but fully behind Salmond’s right to a fair trial. I was merely commenting about how they have until now managed to keep their splits and dramas in house, and how the Labour Party not so much.


Kind of sarky, but telling that public criticism of the SNP is against the rules of membership, while Labour elected their most prolific parliamentary rebel, Jeremy Corbyn, as their leader. I think you are with the more honourable crowd, if not the most effective, though others may disagree. I certainly think that individual conscience is more important than clan loyalty, that’s true. Live not by lies!
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 07:33 - Feb 27 with 5160 viewsgazza1

Salmon v Sturgeon on 22:46 - Feb 26 by MrSheen

Kind of sarky, but telling that public criticism of the SNP is against the rules of membership, while Labour elected their most prolific parliamentary rebel, Jeremy Corbyn, as their leader. I think you are with the more honourable crowd, if not the most effective, though others may disagree. I certainly think that individual conscience is more important than clan loyalty, that’s true. Live not by lies!


I am enjoying it very much......I dislike the people involved, I dislike the SNP.. I am enjoying their disarray very much.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 08:25 - Feb 27 with 5092 viewsstevec

Apparently she was nicknamed Seaweed at University as not even the tide would take her out.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 08:37 - Feb 27 with 5072 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Salmon v Sturgeon on 22:46 - Feb 26 by MrSheen

Kind of sarky, but telling that public criticism of the SNP is against the rules of membership, while Labour elected their most prolific parliamentary rebel, Jeremy Corbyn, as their leader. I think you are with the more honourable crowd, if not the most effective, though others may disagree. I certainly think that individual conscience is more important than clan loyalty, that’s true. Live not by lies!


Couldn’t agree more, but I would suggest that Labour’s internal splits rarely have anything to do with individual conscience.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:06 - Feb 27 with 5017 viewsstowmarketrange

Salmon v Sturgeon on 07:33 - Feb 27 by gazza1

I am enjoying it very much......I dislike the people involved, I dislike the SNP.. I am enjoying their disarray very much.


Most snp support seem to be blaming everyone else but their own party.I suppose that’s what happens when a party becomes too dominant in a country.
The people in Scotland who want independence will still follow them blindly,knowing that they are their only hope.

I have no views overall on Scottish independence,but will the snp become redundant if independence is achieved?
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:34 - Feb 27 with 4980 viewsEsox_Lucius

Is it just me or has a grossly disproportionate amount of press coverage been given to this compared to the coverage of actual criminal activity by the government, which has been negligible at best?
[Post edited 27 Feb 2021 13:02]

The grass is always greener.

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Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:45 - Feb 27 with 4955 viewskarl

Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:06 - Feb 27 by stowmarketrange

Most snp support seem to be blaming everyone else but their own party.I suppose that’s what happens when a party becomes too dominant in a country.
The people in Scotland who want independence will still follow them blindly,knowing that they are their only hope.

I have no views overall on Scottish independence,but will the snp become redundant if independence is achieved?


My view, as 75/25 in favour of union, is they think they will rule an independent Scotland indefinitely.
The language they used in the referendum about a fairer society and no Trident etc had nothing to do with independence but rather something that would be the ruling governments policies, how can an independent country all of a sudden become a fairer society?
Unchallenged power has corrupted the SNP, its more to do with staying in charge than independence now I think.
Labour and the Lib Dems are as much to blame as they've collapsed and allowed this situation to happen
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:48 - Feb 27 with 4947 viewsWatford_Ranger

Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:34 - Feb 27 by Esox_Lucius

Is it just me or has a grossly disproportionate amount of press coverage been given to this compared to the coverage of actual criminal activity by the government, which has been negligible at best?
[Post edited 27 Feb 2021 13:02]


Just you.

Nothing to see here. Move on. Look over there.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:00 - Feb 27 with 4876 viewskensalriser

Salmon v Sturgeon on 10:45 - Feb 27 by karl

My view, as 75/25 in favour of union, is they think they will rule an independent Scotland indefinitely.
The language they used in the referendum about a fairer society and no Trident etc had nothing to do with independence but rather something that would be the ruling governments policies, how can an independent country all of a sudden become a fairer society?
Unchallenged power has corrupted the SNP, its more to do with staying in charge than independence now I think.
Labour and the Lib Dems are as much to blame as they've collapsed and allowed this situation to happen


Not sure about that (your opening line). At the moment independence almost completely defines Scottish politics. Once independence has been gained, other issues will come into play. The SNP will enjoy a honeymoon period for sure, but after that things could change very quickly.

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Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:29 - Feb 27 with 4840 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:00 - Feb 27 by kensalriser

Not sure about that (your opening line). At the moment independence almost completely defines Scottish politics. Once independence has been gained, other issues will come into play. The SNP will enjoy a honeymoon period for sure, but after that things could change very quickly.


Interesting question. I've read that most independence-based parties fall off after their primary goal is achieved as people seek to distance themselves from the past.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:56 - Feb 27 with 4795 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:29 - Feb 27 by BrianMcCarthy

Interesting question. I've read that most independence-based parties fall off after their primary goal is achieved as people seek to distance themselves from the past.


I'd go further than to say single issue parties everywhere fall off generally when in power.

You'll know better than me but I gather Sinn Fein's resurgence in ROI is down to embracing issues over housing and poverty instead of being solely concentrating on a United Ireland and anti Unionism.

The SNP is a party that has managed to accommodate Right Wing anti-gay Nationalists like Brian Souter who wants a low tax conservative Neo Liberal Scotland and Left Wing gay Nationalists like Mairie Black who wants a high tax Socialist Scotland.

How could they possible get on when their only shared goal is removed?
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 09:23 - Mar 1 with 4645 viewsToast_R

A Nationalist government is always a concern. When a political party's foundation is based on blaming another group for apparent misfortunes, they can easily manipulate the stupid.

If they were to get a second referendum and independence was won by a marginal majority, do they honestly think this will be a day of National celebration and the country will simply walk off into the sunshine?

Scotland will be spilt like Brexit. There will be serious problems and the SNP's lies and propaganda will be exposed (Join the EU, double their state pensions etc).
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 09:46 - Mar 1 with 4605 viewsMetallica_Hoop


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Salmon v Sturgeon on 11:35 - Mar 1 with 4531 viewsstowmarketrange

Salmon v Sturgeon on 09:23 - Mar 1 by Toast_R

A Nationalist government is always a concern. When a political party's foundation is based on blaming another group for apparent misfortunes, they can easily manipulate the stupid.

If they were to get a second referendum and independence was won by a marginal majority, do they honestly think this will be a day of National celebration and the country will simply walk off into the sunshine?

Scotland will be spilt like Brexit. There will be serious problems and the SNP's lies and propaganda will be exposed (Join the EU, double their state pensions etc).
[Post edited 1 Mar 2021 9:25]


I have asked a couple of my mates who are pro independence,what happens if one region of scotland decides to stay in the union while every other region decides to leave?Would they be forced out of the union against their will?
Or 52% vote to leave and 48% want to stay?
Nobody seems to come up with an answer.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:40 - Mar 1 with 4430 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

If B***** has taught us anything, it’s that the electorate love being called stupid and easily manipulated.
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:45 - Mar 1 with 4418 viewsgazza1

Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:40 - Mar 1 by BazzaInTheLoft

If B***** has taught us anything, it’s that the electorate love being called stupid and easily manipulated.


Who is B*****?
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Salmon v Sturgeon on 13:48 - Mar 1 with 4411 viewsgazza1

I would like to know how they intend to run their country financially if they become independent.....likewise what will happen to all the national type civic service type matters.

They need to move on just like the non brexiteers are doing in England.....
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