| Legends of the Loft 15:47 - Aug 3 with 6498 views | QPunkR |
Just going to drop this here and step back. A couple of interesting (surprising?) picks in there.
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| Legends of the Loft on 22:21 - Aug 3 with 1546 views | essextaxiboy |
| Legends of the Loft on 18:14 - Aug 3 by joe90 |
I would say Taarabt is the dictionary definition of a ‘legend’. Also probably the best and most well known player associated with us in resent times. He captained the side and basically won us the league. Can’t deny his impact on the pitch.
If we can name a stand after Stan Bowles (what trophies did he win with us?) who was most definitely a dubious character, I wouldn’t begrudge Taarabt being named a ‘legend of the loft’. [Post edited 3 Aug 2023 18:17]
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Stan played for us for 7 years , he was an integral part of a team that came within a whisker of winning the top division which IMO trumps winning the second tier anyway .
He played on mud pitches with the opposition hard man(every team had one ) detailed to kick him to the floor .
Taraabt did win us promotion , we couldnt have done it without him but it was against inferior opponents to Stan |  | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 23:37 - Aug 3 with 1476 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Legends of the Loft on 18:14 - Aug 3 by joe90 |
I would say Taarabt is the dictionary definition of a ‘legend’. Also probably the best and most well known player associated with us in resent times. He captained the side and basically won us the league. Can’t deny his impact on the pitch.
If we can name a stand after Stan Bowles (what trophies did he win with us?) who was most definitely a dubious character, I wouldn’t begrudge Taarabt being named a ‘legend of the loft’. [Post edited 3 Aug 2023 18:17]
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I'm not knocking anyone on that list, Joe. I loved them all, and still do.
On a couple of minor points, my opinions would be - he didn't captain the side - let's be honest - that side was captained by Derry, Hill and others, and he didn't win us the league - we wouldn't have won it without him, of course, but we wouldn't have won it without a few other key players as well, so he didn't win it for us, as ever it takes a team to succeed, though of course he played a gigantic part in it.
As for comparing him to Stan ...essex's post puts it far better than I ever could. |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 23:44 - Aug 3 with 1464 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Legends of the Loft on 20:06 - Aug 3 by qpr1976 |
Agree about Taraabt, but he didn’t win us the league, despite 19 goals and 23 assists. Yes he won Championship PotY, but not Ours (Paddy Kenny).
Adel was a Major reason, but, he couldn’t have done it without Derry, Hill, Kenny and Others.
But neither could they (or the other 10) do it without him.
Guessing this will dredge up the old Pros & Cons about Adel.
Personally, he made my season tickets worth every penny long before we looked like a Championship winning team. |
He did win us the league though.
Him not being our POTY was perverse. |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 00:02 - Aug 4 with 1456 views | hoops_legend |
I would have removed
Hill
Thomas
Added
Faurlin
Maddix |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 00:16 - Aug 4 with 1434 views | DannyPaddox |
Dave Thomas. Legend. End of. |  | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 06:32 - Aug 4 with 1353 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Only just seen this, so a bit late. I noticed no one from the 80s, bar Macca. I would have had Bannister over Gallen, simply for 2 hatricks against Chelsea.
The rest seem pretty fair, maybe Maddix instead of Hill. Glad Wilkins is in there. |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 07:18 - Aug 4 with 1328 views | joe90 |
| Legends of the Loft on 20:06 - Aug 3 by qpr1976 |
Agree about Taraabt, but he didn’t win us the league, despite 19 goals and 23 assists. Yes he won Championship PotY, but not Ours (Paddy Kenny).
Adel was a Major reason, but, he couldn’t have done it without Derry, Hill, Kenny and Others.
But neither could they (or the other 10) do it without him.
Guessing this will dredge up the old Pros & Cons about Adel.
Personally, he made my season tickets worth every penny long before we looked like a Championship winning team. |
Of course other players made vital contributions that season, but Adel was the stand out player, not just in our team but a stand out player in the league!
We don’t often get players like Adel coming to a club like us, let alone one that is part of a successful team! I find it strange that there’s a reluctance to acknowledge it. |  | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 07:21 - Aug 4 with 1321 views | joe90 |
| Legends of the Loft on 21:40 - Aug 3 by Stanisgod |
How many of that ten actually won a trophy mate? |
Very true. | | | |
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| Legends of the Loft on 07:28 - Aug 4 with 1317 views | joe90 |
| Legends of the Loft on 22:21 - Aug 3 by essextaxiboy |
Stan played for us for 7 years , he was an integral part of a team that came within a whisker of winning the top division which IMO trumps winning the second tier anyway .
He played on mud pitches with the opposition hard man(every team had one ) detailed to kick him to the floor .
Taraabt did win us promotion , we couldnt have done it without him but it was against inferior opponents to Stan |
I respectfully disagree. | | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 07:48 - Aug 4 with 1297 views | joe90 |
| Legends of the Loft on 23:37 - Aug 3 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'm not knocking anyone on that list, Joe. I loved them all, and still do.
On a couple of minor points, my opinions would be - he didn't captain the side - let's be honest - that side was captained by Derry, Hill and others, and he didn't win us the league - we wouldn't have won it without him, of course, but we wouldn't have won it without a few other key players as well, so he didn't win it for us, as ever it takes a team to succeed, though of course he played a gigantic part in it.
As for comparing him to Stan ...essex's post puts it far better than I ever could. |
It’s all opinions Brian, no right or wrong.
If I had seen Stan play and was able to compare football from the 70s to football now I may well have a different view.
I don’t think that our fans who love Stan are looking back with rose tinted glasses, but there’s definitely a bit of ‘things we’re better in my day’ type of attitude creeping through. I get the impression that the problem with Adel was that he had a bad attitude and that for some they can’t overlook that and just enjoy the wonderful football. I think that’s further evidence by how Hill and Derry are revered by some. As a fan base we seem to always hark after technically inferior players with good ‘attitudes’.
It does feel like Stan has been put on pedestal and that any other maverick/flare player that comes along has to have a saint like attitude (Eze for example) or they won’t be accepted, despite their achievements.
We have very little glory in our history and I think it’s not healthy to hold one of our achievements/teams/players in much higher regard. I think that’s what happens with Stan and I think it can be at the expansive of other great players/teams/successes. | | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 08:47 - Aug 4 with 1245 views | E17hoop |
I actually want MORE recency bias for two reasons.
Firstly, we need to have legends more recently for us. My son is 22 and has no clue about 7 of the players on that list. Are we harking back to lost heroes and the lack of recent players who have impacted the club?
Secondly, if our heroes are from the 60s to 90s, it's pretty damning of the age of our supporter base. I LOVE that my son thinks Taarabt and Eze were as great as they were and is able to claim them as touchstones in the way I have Francis and Bowles. We NEED to grow our fan base and they need to have their own heroes; we shouldn't be shutting them down. |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 09:02 - Aug 4 with 1229 views | daveB |
| Legends of the Loft on 08:47 - Aug 4 by E17hoop |
I actually want MORE recency bias for two reasons.
Firstly, we need to have legends more recently for us. My son is 22 and has no clue about 7 of the players on that list. Are we harking back to lost heroes and the lack of recent players who have impacted the club?
Secondly, if our heroes are from the 60s to 90s, it's pretty damning of the age of our supporter base. I LOVE that my son thinks Taarabt and Eze were as great as they were and is able to claim them as touchstones in the way I have Francis and Bowles. We NEED to grow our fan base and they need to have their own heroes; we shouldn't be shutting them down. |
I think celebrating those players will help your 22 year old son know more about them and why they are so highly regarded |  | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 09:18 - Aug 4 with 1190 views | daveB |
| Legends of the Loft on 23:37 - Aug 3 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'm not knocking anyone on that list, Joe. I loved them all, and still do.
On a couple of minor points, my opinions would be - he didn't captain the side - let's be honest - that side was captained by Derry, Hill and others, and he didn't win us the league - we wouldn't have won it without him, of course, but we wouldn't have won it without a few other key players as well, so he didn't win it for us, as ever it takes a team to succeed, though of course he played a gigantic part in it.
As for comparing him to Stan ...essex's post puts it far better than I ever could. |
If you are going to compare him to a great I'd compare him more with Rodney Marsh than Stan, Rodney was a bit of a prat off the field as well judging by books ive read but on the pitch was incredible. Rodneys record is far better and from what I've seen he was a better all round player but I do feel lucky to have see Adel play for us despite his numerous flaws | | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 09:22 - Aug 4 with 1186 views | QPROslo |
| Legends of the Loft on 08:47 - Aug 4 by E17hoop |
I actually want MORE recency bias for two reasons.
Firstly, we need to have legends more recently for us. My son is 22 and has no clue about 7 of the players on that list. Are we harking back to lost heroes and the lack of recent players who have impacted the club?
Secondly, if our heroes are from the 60s to 90s, it's pretty damning of the age of our supporter base. I LOVE that my son thinks Taarabt and Eze were as great as they were and is able to claim them as touchstones in the way I have Francis and Bowles. We NEED to grow our fan base and they need to have their own heroes; we shouldn't be shutting them down. |
Yes, good point. Thinking about it I'd have Eze in for Hill, and Clive Allen in for Gallen. But as has been said there are many other legends from across the decades who well deserve a shout. | | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 09:45 - Aug 4 with 1172 views | terryb |
| Legends of the Loft on 18:14 - Aug 3 by joe90 |
I would say Taarabt is the dictionary definition of a ‘legend’. Also probably the best and most well known player associated with us in resent times. He captained the side and basically won us the league. Can’t deny his impact on the pitch.
If we can name a stand after Stan Bowles (what trophies did he win with us?) who was most definitely a dubious character, I wouldn’t begrudge Taarabt being named a ‘legend of the loft’. [Post edited 3 Aug 2023 18:17]
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Of course Adel should be in the list.
To answer your question regarding Stan. No trophy as we were "ony" runners up in Division two in 1973. That means that they both achieved the same object - promotion to the top division.
The Burnley side that were promoted with us finished 4th the next season & reached the FA Cup semi final. | | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 10:10 - Aug 4 with 1129 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Legends of the Loft on 07:48 - Aug 4 by joe90 |
It’s all opinions Brian, no right or wrong.
If I had seen Stan play and was able to compare football from the 70s to football now I may well have a different view.
I don’t think that our fans who love Stan are looking back with rose tinted glasses, but there’s definitely a bit of ‘things we’re better in my day’ type of attitude creeping through. I get the impression that the problem with Adel was that he had a bad attitude and that for some they can’t overlook that and just enjoy the wonderful football. I think that’s further evidence by how Hill and Derry are revered by some. As a fan base we seem to always hark after technically inferior players with good ‘attitudes’.
It does feel like Stan has been put on pedestal and that any other maverick/flare player that comes along has to have a saint like attitude (Eze for example) or they won’t be accepted, despite their achievements.
We have very little glory in our history and I think it’s not healthy to hold one of our achievements/teams/players in much higher regard. I think that’s what happens with Stan and I think it can be at the expansive of other great players/teams/successes. |
Some very good points, Joe.
I'm not arguing with you, just shooting the breeze over a virtual pint. As I say, I love all of the players mentioned. | |
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| Legends of the Loft on 10:15 - Aug 4 with 1125 views | ted_hendrix |
| Legends of the Loft on 09:18 - Aug 4 by daveB |
If you are going to compare him to a great I'd compare him more with Rodney Marsh than Stan, Rodney was a bit of a prat off the field as well judging by books ive read but on the pitch was incredible. Rodneys record is far better and from what I've seen he was a better all round player but I do feel lucky to have see Adel play for us despite his numerous flaws |
Rodney was a bit of a prat off the field?
I don't get that at all.
We've all got our opinions, what I'm waiting for is clarification/criteria as to what constitutes a legend.
To me and my time of watching/supporting this loony club no one player came close to the magnificant Dave Thomas, nobody.
I'm looking over my shoulder now and there on the wall In my Man cave Is a signed picture of Stan.
I don't know what I'm going on about anymore.
Goodbye. |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 10:35 - Aug 4 with 1081 views | PunteR |
| Legends of the Loft on 16:09 - Aug 3 by Rangersw12 |
I certainly wouldn't have had Hill (Bardsley for me ) in their but the rest seem fine
I suppose it depends what criteria you use for your vote as I would only vote for players I've seen which would rule out everyone pre 1990 |
If you're putting Bardsley in there sure Sinton would be in with a shout? T |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 11:03 - Aug 4 with 1026 views | Dorse |
I'm not disagreeing with anyone's lists but would have thought Wegerle, Bannister, Byrne or Wicks might have been close. But not Karl Ready. |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 11:11 - Aug 4 with 1001 views | QPunkR |
| Legends of the Loft on 11:03 - Aug 4 by Dorse |
I'm not disagreeing with anyone's lists but would have thought Wegerle, Bannister, Byrne or Wicks might have been close. But not Karl Ready. |
We don't mention that name... | |
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| Legends of the Loft on 13:32 - Aug 4 with 916 views | Nov77 |
| Legends of the Loft on 11:11 - Aug 4 by QPunkR |
We don't mention that name... |
Two pages in and no mention of Tony Currie?, who continued the number 10 tradition, and was captain in our cup final replay.
I find the ‘you’re only a legend if I saw you play’ argument a bit weird. anyone who’s only started watching us the last 5 or 6 years is going to have some pretty poor ‘legends’.
I know an old guy who saw Brian Bedford play, he claims he was better than all the ones who followed, marsh, Bowles, Francis etc, doesn’t he have a greater perspective than all of us? |  |
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| Legends of the Loft on 13:38 - Aug 4 with 906 views | daveB |
| Legends of the Loft on 10:15 - Aug 4 by ted_hendrix |
Rodney was a bit of a prat off the field?
I don't get that at all.
We've all got our opinions, what I'm waiting for is clarification/criteria as to what constitutes a legend.
To me and my time of watching/supporting this loony club no one player came close to the magnificant Dave Thomas, nobody.
I'm looking over my shoulder now and there on the wall In my Man cave Is a signed picture of Stan.
I don't know what I'm going on about anymore.
Goodbye. |
Just from stuff in various books, Gordon Jago's one he said Rodney was a bit of a nightmare and not well liked by the end, doesn't really matter as he was obviously a great player for us | | | |
| Legends of the Loft on 13:58 - Aug 4 with 875 views | R_from_afar |
I think Lee Cook should be on the list simply because if he hadn't given Rangers £250k, our first game of the 2023/24 season might have been against The Dog and Duck. I don't think he makes the top 10 as a player - although in his pomp, his dribbling and crossing was on a par with that of any Rangers player I have seen live - but saving the club makes a person a legend in my eyes.
Meanwhile, Armand Traore has instructed his lawyers...  |  |
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