| Eze for England! 11:34 - May 21 with 66773 views | wortonr |
According to the BBC he’s in! Excellent for us but how much do we get if he starts? ( which surely will happen in a pre tournament game) |  | | |  |
| Eze for England! on 22:30 - Jun 6 with 3385 views | connell10 |
| Eze for England! on 16:23 - Jun 6 by paulparker |
I like Eze but he is no where near the quality of Grealish who won the treble last year
Southgate has dropped a bollock here not taking him |
Don't think so , Grealish has to be the most overrated player in the premiership. Well done Eze. |  |
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| Eze for England! on 22:49 - Jun 6 with 3281 views | qpr_1968 |
| Eze for England! on 18:07 - Jun 6 by Lblock |
Ex Palarse player.... blah blah blah!!!
Looks a proper ropey squad at the back to me but always would've been.
That choice of midfielders also pretty shite.
Rice is stand out and Kobe I rate however lacks stamina at the moment.
Wharton is mental -- I never rated him in the Championship but he looks really good at a higher level.
Good luck Ingerlund but i think we'll be home early.
Main thing for me is Eze gets minutes, scores and becomes a player in the £80mill bracket |
6 midfielders and 9 strikers.....mmmm | |
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| Eze for England! on 23:02 - Jun 6 with 3241 views | Hunterhoop |
| Eze for England! on 18:27 - Jun 6 by nix |
Ebs has scored against Spurs, Liverpool and Villa - who finished in the top five. In total he scored 11 goals and four assists in the equivalent of 22 full matches. Grealish has scored in total against Spurs, Luton and Palace and scored three goals and one assist in the equivalent of 11 full matches. Grealish is in a team where you'd expect them to make far more chances.
I think Eze provides something different more than Grealish in 2024.
Maddison has also only scored four goals against Bournemouth, Burnley, Fulham and Villa. He's had more assists - nine - but mostly against bottom half sides and only one goal against a top half side since his injury. |
So you’re saying he’s “done it” against bigger teams than Grealish this season.
PP. 👋. Over here. |  | | |
| Eze for England! on 23:42 - Jun 6 with 3098 views | nix |
| Eze for England! on 23:02 - Jun 6 by Hunterhoop |
So you’re saying he’s “done it” against bigger teams than Grealish this season.
PP. 👋. Over here. |
Stirrer. |  | | |
| Eze for England! on 00:10 - Jun 7 with 3055 views | Hunterhoop |
| Eze for England! on 23:42 - Jun 6 by nix |
Stirrer. |
I’m sure PP is big enough to say “fair enough” when he reads this! 😉
Besides, Eze is one of ours and I really don’t think it was Grealish over Eze. Southgate picked Gordon over Grealish IMO.
I think Eze will get game time this Euros. I think he’s down as Foden’s back up on the left. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 00:11 - Jun 7 with 3054 views | SydneyRs |
| Eze for England! on 22:30 - Jun 6 by connell10 |
Don't think so , Grealish has to be the most overrated player in the premiership. Well done Eze. |
Grealish also seems a bit too fond of going out on the lash.
Players like him, Rashford, Sancho, Henderson etc would have walked into every England squad in the past. The fact they don't now shows how much we've improved. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 01:22 - Jun 7 with 2977 views | kensalriser |
I was wondering if the having it large stories might have something to do with Grealish staying at home, that feels like something that would influence Southgate. [Post edited 7 Jun 1:23]
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| Eze for England! on 09:18 - Jun 7 with 2689 views | KeithW |
| Eze for England! on 20:17 - Jun 6 by Sonofpugwash |
Grealish dropped.Good enough for Guardiola but not for Southgit.
The sooner we get a new manager in the better. |
Good enough for Guardiola??
90 minutes on the pitch in the last 7 league games. | | | |
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| Eze for England! on 09:50 - Jun 7 with 2598 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Eze for England! on 09:18 - Jun 7 by KeithW |
Good enough for Guardiola??
90 minutes on the pitch in the last 7 league games. |
Exactly, and in fact all season he's used him sparingly. |  |
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| Eze for England! on 09:56 - Jun 7 with 2563 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Eze for England! on 21:24 - Jun 6 by Spaceman_P |
Thrilled for Eze, but feel Southgate has missed some golden opportunities in his selections. |
I think he't got it bang on. Maddison and Grealish just haven't been on form this season, even Maddison admits that.
He hasn't missed any golden opportunities, we're arguing over second and third choice players. | |
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| Eze for England! on 10:03 - Jun 7 with 2510 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Eze for England! on 09:56 - Jun 7 by Antti_Heinola |
I think he't got it bang on. Maddison and Grealish just haven't been on form this season, even Maddison admits that.
He hasn't missed any golden opportunities, we're arguing over second and third choice players. |
This.
Most of these players going into a tournament with a lot of momentum behind them which has been missing previously.
Also (I hope I don't jinx it) few injuries. |  | | |
| Eze for England! on 10:03 - Jun 7 with 2513 views | terryb |
I've no problems with the selections apart from misgivings with the centre halves.
Personally, I think Branthwaite & Quansah are better defenders & footballers than Dunk or Konsa. In a couple of years time I expect they will be the first choice pairing.
Congratulations to Eze & well deserved. [Post edited 7 Jun 10:05]
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| Eze for England! on 10:05 - Jun 7 with 2495 views | gazza1 |
Big mistake No 1 - not taking Grealish!!! Causes opposition so many problems.
Sorry, not going to go down well on here but Grealish is a better player than Eze and several of the others he is taking to play wide as an attacking player.
Basically a 'shocking' decision......hope there is not too many more otherwise forget winning anything despite having enough top players to win the tournament. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 10:18 - Jun 7 with 2440 views | hubble |
| Eze for England! on 01:22 - Jun 7 by kensalriser |
I was wondering if the having it large stories might have something to do with Grealish staying at home, that feels like something that would influence Southgate. [Post edited 7 Jun 1:23]
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This was exactly my thought. These days maverick players and their antics are frowned upon, rather than tolerated, by elite managers. Whether Southgate is in that bracket or not, he is certainly on trend with that thinking.
Like most of us, I am delighted that Ebere has got the call up. And where I think Grealish has peaked, Eze has still plenty more to offer. I also feel Eze is a more effective offensive player that Grealish; In JG there is a certain flattery to decieve in those ankle-socks down mazy runs of his that often lead to him being upended. Yes, he offers almost a guarantee of a set-piece free kick or two, and an assist, but so does Eze, plus the ability to score from all sorts of areas that I've never seen Grealish achieve. |  |
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| Eze for England! on 10:37 - Jun 7 with 2402 views | dmm |
The question now is, how much playing time might Eze get?
I assume Foden, Bellingham and Saka are the starters. However, Saka's form hasn't been good and Southgate appears to be making decisions on player form so that may not be the case.
I imagine Eze will be used as a sub, particularly in a tight game with England needing a breakthrough. Should he do well in that scenario, you never know, he could stake a real claim for a starting place. |  | | |
| Eze for England! on 10:39 - Jun 7 with 2396 views | lassel |
| Eze for England! on 17:48 - Jun 6 by Antti_Heinola |
he ain't picking Gordon over Saka. |
I mean you might well be right AH but at the same time he has been making decisions based on form so it’s not conceivable he punts for Gordon who has been flying over Saka.
Of course it’s all ultimately academic as we will be on the plane home the second we play anybody half decent in the knockouts. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 10:44 - Jun 7 with 2376 views | hantssi |
I’m not sure it was a case of Eze or Grealish, more a case of Gordon or Grealish.
Anyway, we’re not talking about starting XI in either case, perhaps third choice, same as Dunk v Branthwaite! | | | |
| Eze for England! on 11:56 - Jun 7 with 2195 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Eze for England! on 10:39 - Jun 7 by lassel |
I mean you might well be right AH but at the same time he has been making decisions based on form so it’s not conceivable he punts for Gordon who has been flying over Saka.
Of course it’s all ultimately academic as we will be on the plane home the second we play anybody half decent in the knockouts. |
Has he? Haven't been watching all games for both teams, but Saka was picking up fantasy points pretty much every week - his product is exceptional - although Gordon's also been v good this season. I think Saka is nailed on, but we'll see!
Almost every team is knocked out by the first decent team they play. That's how tournament football generally works. That criticism is so overplayed. Denmark were superb in the last Euros, but when we beat them it was all 'well, they're tired now'. When we smashed Germany to little bits it was 'well, they're not very good, so it doesn't count'. Bores me to tears. | |
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| Eze for England! on 12:11 - Jun 7 with 2129 views | daveB |
| Eze for England! on 10:05 - Jun 7 by gazza1 |
Big mistake No 1 - not taking Grealish!!! Causes opposition so many problems.
Sorry, not going to go down well on here but Grealish is a better player than Eze and several of the others he is taking to play wide as an attacking player.
Basically a 'shocking' decision......hope there is not too many more otherwise forget winning anything despite having enough top players to win the tournament. |
I'd have taken Grealish over Bowen but realistically he's not going to play anyway |  | | |
| Eze for England! on 12:12 - Jun 7 with 2122 views | daveB |
| Eze for England! on 11:56 - Jun 7 by Antti_Heinola |
Has he? Haven't been watching all games for both teams, but Saka was picking up fantasy points pretty much every week - his product is exceptional - although Gordon's also been v good this season. I think Saka is nailed on, but we'll see!
Almost every team is knocked out by the first decent team they play. That's how tournament football generally works. That criticism is so overplayed. Denmark were superb in the last Euros, but when we beat them it was all 'well, they're tired now'. When we smashed Germany to little bits it was 'well, they're not very good, so it doesn't count'. Bores me to tears. |
Man City regularly get knocked out of the Champions League by the first good team they play and Pep is a genius apparently | | | |
| Eze for England! on 12:48 - Jun 7 with 2023 views | PhilmyRs |
I agree Grealish is overrated by a lot of fans but he's definitely good enough for an England squad place, so on balance, would have included. However, it's not the worst decision in the world, and I certainly wouldn't knock the Manager too much for this. Of all the attacking players available, Grealish feels the most limited in terms of positions they can occupy. He basically covers the wide left position, and that's it. I know at Villa he played more centrally at times, but he's basically been converted into a permanent fixture wide left. Gordon, Bowen and Foden can play at least 2 potions (3 in Foden's case), if required. While Gordon is the only one with express pace, so I back Gareth with taking him.
This all leads me to think it was a shootout between Eze and Grealish, and guess the attraction of an unknown player, that has no scars from previous tournaments and is different to anything we've had before and will benefit considerably from this experience ahead of the World cup, you can see why the Manager may have taken a gamble on him.
So in summary....think it was a mistake not taking Grealish, but an understandable one and shows some ambition and guts so fair play to him. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 12:59 - Jun 7 with 1967 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Eze for England! on 11:56 - Jun 7 by Antti_Heinola |
Has he? Haven't been watching all games for both teams, but Saka was picking up fantasy points pretty much every week - his product is exceptional - although Gordon's also been v good this season. I think Saka is nailed on, but we'll see!
Almost every team is knocked out by the first decent team they play. That's how tournament football generally works. That criticism is so overplayed. Denmark were superb in the last Euros, but when we beat them it was all 'well, they're tired now'. When we smashed Germany to little bits it was 'well, they're not very good, so it doesn't count'. Bores me to tears. |
That's fair except both of those games were at Wembley.
England don't have a single knockout game major team scalp in the history of football outside of Wembley. Belgium in 1990 maybe the highest profile team? I won't be able to see that changing until it changes. |  | | |
| Eze for England! on 13:30 - Jun 7 with 1862 views | Paddyhoops |
I admit to having a soft spot for Grealish .
That Friday we beat Villa . He was getting dogs abuse.
The cry of “ You’re just a shit Joey Essex “ went up and fair play to him he saw the funny side and applauded R block .
They’re are quiet a few friends in Ireland who are chuffed he’s not going mind.
I think he’s a fine player. I can see him moving soon to get game time. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 14:10 - Jun 7 with 1730 views | gazza1 |
| Eze for England! on 12:11 - Jun 7 by daveB |
I'd have taken Grealish over Bowen but realistically he's not going to play anyway |
Bowen is not top international class.....how he picks him ahead of JG only Southgate knows.
JG is fit and ready to go after limited game time this season with one of the best club sides in the world.....utter madness from Southgate which is what can be expected unfortunately.
I like Shaw but he has not played for weeks and weeks but he still picks him......very strange indeed. | | | |
| Eze for England! on 14:34 - Jun 7 with 5141 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Eze for England! on 14:10 - Jun 7 by gazza1 |
Bowen is not top international class.....how he picks him ahead of JG only Southgate knows.
JG is fit and ready to go after limited game time this season with one of the best club sides in the world.....utter madness from Southgate which is what can be expected unfortunately.
I like Shaw but he has not played for weeks and weeks but he still picks him......very strange indeed. |
Bowen has played 3,842 minutes of football this season. 20 goals, 10 assists.
Grealish 2,114 minutes. 3 goals, 3 assists.
West Ham scored 60 league goals vs Man City’s 96.
Bowen was involved in a goal every 128 minutes in a team that scored less than two thirds as many league goals as City. Grealish was involved in a goal every 352 minutes.
The argument for selecting Grealish over Bowen is now seemingly ‘he hasn’t played so much so he’s more fresh.’ By that logic you could make a semi serious claim that Mason Mount should have been picked ahead of Ebere Eze.
For years and years England managers have been criticised for picking players on reputations rather than form. Whatever you think of Southgate he has always picked on what he sees not who he sees, yet he gets stick for that too.
The determination to dislike Southgate from large swathes of football fans kind of mystifies me. He’s always delivered and pretty much always come unstuck at tournaments at the same point every other England manager has in history. He’s encouraged and demanded a progression of our shape and style. He’s picked unheralded, inexperienced, in-form players again and again. He’s made big calls consistently by leaving out the likes of Alli, Rashford, Henderson, Grealish etc etc. He’s also a credit to himself and our country with his demeanour and class.
I find the hatred completely bizarre. He picked us up from the Icelandic floor and immediately pivoted into the most successful sustained period we’ve ever had. I’m pretty convinced we’ll regress under the next manager and we’ll be pining for the Southgate years soon enough. [Post edited 7 Jun 14:35]
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