| Why can't the UK 13:03 - Mar 20 with 8387 views | Boundy |
I've just seen a BBC report on how the Irish Republic deal with illegal immigrants coming in from the north. they have at certain crossing points into the republic vehicle checks and in which when if unable to prove their status the occupants are returned to the north the same day , no fuss ,no issues , so why are we in the UK obliged to spend hundreds of millions on those who shouldn't be here .
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| Why can't the UK on 11:03 - Mar 22 with 891 views | raynor94 |
| Why can't the UK on 11:01 - Mar 22 by Kilkennyjack |
Pensioners voted Brexit in numbers.
Only fair they take some of the pain associatef with the reduced economic activity that is a direct result.
Own it, they voted the young a reduced future in almost every respect.
The reality is that there is a cost assiciated and its not just the young who should carry that cost.
Suck it up pensioners, you voted for it. |
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| Why can't the UK on 11:07 - Mar 22 with 877 views | Gwyn737 |
| Why can't the UK on 08:42 - Mar 22 by Boundy |
So what you're implying let them burn the window frames if they're cold .Funny that an MP on a basic salary £91,346 with an additional perks of an allowance that most working people would class as their wage , perhaps they should be means tested before sticking in their expense forms every month.
A great indication of how a country values its citizens is how it looks after its old age . Attitudes like yours and too many others shows the lack of respect that is too apparent today. |
I’m saying the opposite of that.
It should be means tested and no one in this country should go cold for lack of money.
That doesn’t change the fact that an age group, pensioners are the best of in the UK.
I’ve said my bit on MPs. They’re paid nowhere near enough. If they were, we could legitimately push back on expenses. | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 14:27 - Mar 22 with 834 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why can't the UK on 11:07 - Mar 22 by Gwyn737 |
I’m saying the opposite of that.
It should be means tested and no one in this country should go cold for lack of money.
That doesn’t change the fact that an age group, pensioners are the best of in the UK.
I’ve said my bit on MPs. They’re paid nowhere near enough. If they were, we could legitimately push back on expenses. |
Means tested, 100% agree.
Not all pensioners are doing so well. I know a few around here who are struggling
MP's agreed, pay them substantially more but take away expenses and change the system. It's been something I've bleated about for a long while. Mp's shouldn't get to buy a second home on expenses, each party should own a house in every constituency and when MP's change they have to move their stuff out. That home should have an office built in it. |Every office should be supplied from a central stores and everyone gets the same equipment, when it needs replacing you phone them and it gets delivered with the old stuff taken away, repaired and sold off with the money going back into the central fund. There should be blocks of flats built close to Westminster that anyone outside London can use, same rules as above. | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 15:42 - Mar 22 with 804 views | onehunglow |
| Why can't the UK on 14:27 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Means tested, 100% agree.
Not all pensioners are doing so well. I know a few around here who are struggling
MP's agreed, pay them substantially more but take away expenses and change the system. It's been something I've bleated about for a long while. Mp's shouldn't get to buy a second home on expenses, each party should own a house in every constituency and when MP's change they have to move their stuff out. That home should have an office built in it. |Every office should be supplied from a central stores and everyone gets the same equipment, when it needs replacing you phone them and it gets delivered with the old stuff taken away, repaired and sold off with the money going back into the central fund. There should be blocks of flats built close to Westminster that anyone outside London can use, same rules as above. |
Many get pensions having not worked an honest day in their lives
Means tested
Absolutely
Don't work
No pension
Why expect rewards when you've given nothing | |
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| Why can't the UK on 17:02 - Mar 22 with 781 views | swan65split |
| Why can't the UK on 15:42 - Mar 22 by onehunglow |
Many get pensions having not worked an honest day in their lives
Means tested
Absolutely
Don't work
No pension
Why expect rewards when you've given nothing |
Unfortunatly life is never the hollywood dream of school, work, happy family, and an active life/retirement.
Some, and I hope no one on here could find their life change overnight through no fault of their own , or no matter how hard they tried. |  | | |
| Why can't the UK on 17:17 - Mar 22 with 775 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why can't the UK on 15:42 - Mar 22 by onehunglow |
Many get pensions having not worked an honest day in their lives
Means tested
Absolutely
Don't work
No pension
Why expect rewards when you've given nothing |
The not working thing, that's a welfare problem. One thing I back Starmer on is the welfare reforms, people need to be encouraged to contribute to society instead of feeling entitled to do nothing and take free money. MAke life harder for them, cut their incomes, have some form of punishment for non compliance.
Where I go with work we see quite a few young people, teens and 20 somethings who clearly don't work, we see what looks a lot like drug dealing and we have been told that police are heavily involved in this area. This is their lifestyle, spend all day wandering around getting high. Their accomodation is treated lbadly, it's a shithole up there. Obviously I cannot say where. These types of young people are the problem that needs solving. They are a burden on society without making any worthwhile contribution. | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 19:08 - Mar 22 with 755 views | onehunglow |
| Why can't the UK on 17:17 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
The not working thing, that's a welfare problem. One thing I back Starmer on is the welfare reforms, people need to be encouraged to contribute to society instead of feeling entitled to do nothing and take free money. MAke life harder for them, cut their incomes, have some form of punishment for non compliance.
Where I go with work we see quite a few young people, teens and 20 somethings who clearly don't work, we see what looks a lot like drug dealing and we have been told that police are heavily involved in this area. This is their lifestyle, spend all day wandering around getting high. Their accomodation is treated lbadly, it's a shithole up there. Obviously I cannot say where. These types of young people are the problem that needs solving. They are a burden on society without making any worthwhile contribution. |
Thank fick we have you on this site posting material like that
What a reply
Great stuff | |
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| Why can't the UK on 19:25 - Mar 22 with 742 views | max936 |
Where you been, he's never been any different. |  |
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| Why can't the UK on 19:55 - Mar 22 with 710 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why can't the UK on 17:02 - Mar 22 by swan65split |
Unfortunatly life is never the hollywood dream of school, work, happy family, and an active life/retirement.
Some, and I hope no one on here could find their life change overnight through no fault of their own , or no matter how hard they tried. |
Actually, this happened to us. Myself and my wife both suffered health problems that cost us our jobs and nearly our home. I had 4/5 years of that and depended on benefits. But unlike some we both worked hard,to get back to work, we had ended up in an IVA but we cleared our debts, got back to decent health levels and both work full time .
Bad stuff happens all the time but it's how you deal with it that matters. | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 19:58 - Mar 22 with 707 views | onehunglow |
| Why can't the UK on 19:25 - Mar 22 by max936 |
Where you been, he's never been any different. |
Well, I might not see eye to eye with nago but he doesn't have a ten year agenda of hate towards posters
He posts opinions
Some I agree with , some turn my stomach
That said, it's possible to have discourse
It's about opinions
Nothing else
When posters are referred to by former user names, people, some , etc, that is far worse as it insults, pure and simple
Mango and I have crossed swords many times but I'm certain he has no hidden hatred as others clearly have
He might be tw@t but he's our tw@t | |
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| Why can't the UK on 20:11 - Mar 22 with 697 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why can't the UK on 19:58 - Mar 22 by onehunglow |
Well, I might not see eye to eye with nago but he doesn't have a ten year agenda of hate towards posters
He posts opinions
Some I agree with , some turn my stomach
That said, it's possible to have discourse
It's about opinions
Nothing else
When posters are referred to by former user names, people, some , etc, that is far worse as it insults, pure and simple
Mango and I have crossed swords many times but I'm certain he has no hidden hatred as others clearly have
He might be tw@t but he's our tw@t |
He'snot our t....well he's not mine anyway. He needs to see a Dr or maybe have a long look in the mirror | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 20:24 - Mar 22 with 689 views | max936 |
| Why can't the UK on 19:58 - Mar 22 by onehunglow |
Well, I might not see eye to eye with nago but he doesn't have a ten year agenda of hate towards posters
He posts opinions
Some I agree with , some turn my stomach
That said, it's possible to have discourse
It's about opinions
Nothing else
When posters are referred to by former user names, people, some , etc, that is far worse as it insults, pure and simple
Mango and I have crossed swords many times but I'm certain he has no hidden hatred as others clearly have
He might be tw@t but he's our tw@t |
Not on about Mango, look at Rayns post on page 1 | |
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| Why can't the UK on 20:32 - Mar 22 with 679 views | onehunglow |
| Why can't the UK on 20:11 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
He'snot our t....well he's not mine anyway. He needs to see a Dr or maybe have a long look in the mirror |
He's a Swsns fan and that's good enough for me
Family
I never use mental health as a pejorative | |
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| Why can't the UK on 21:00 - Mar 22 with 667 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why can't the UK on 20:32 - Mar 22 by onehunglow |
He's a Swsns fan and that's good enough for me
Family
I never use mental health as a pejorative |
That wasn't about mental health! It's a bit subtle  | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 21:05 - Mar 22 with 657 views | onehunglow |
| Why can't the UK on 21:00 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
That wasn't about mental health! It's a bit subtle |
He's a Swans fan
Families are complex | |
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| Why can't the UK on 21:45 - Mar 22 with 645 views | raynor94 |
| Why can't the UK on 11:01 - Mar 22 by Kilkennyjack |
Pensioners voted Brexit in numbers.
Only fair they take some of the pain associatef with the reduced economic activity that is a direct result.
Own it, they voted the young a reduced future in almost every respect.
The reality is that there is a cost assiciated and its not just the young who should carry that cost.
Suck it up pensioners, you voted for it. |
I just checked 58% of your age group voted for brexit, so suck that up! You absolute hypocrite
Oh and I'm a pensioner who voted remain | |
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| Why can't the UK on 22:00 - Mar 22 with 614 views | Whiterockin |
| Why can't the UK on 21:45 - Mar 22 by raynor94 |
I just checked 58% of your age group voted for brexit, so suck that up! You absolute hypocrite
Oh and I'm a pensioner who voted remain |
By percentage over 44s voted leave under 44s voted remain. Very little in it percentage wise over the age of 44.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/ |  | | |
| Why can't the UK on 23:22 - Mar 22 with 579 views | onehunglow |
| Why can't the UK on 21:45 - Mar 22 by raynor94 |
I just checked 58% of your age group voted for brexit, so suck that up! You absolute hypocrite
Oh and I'm a pensioner who voted remain |
I voted remain
I go
My own way | |
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| Why can't the UK on 10:00 - Mar 23 with 502 views | swan65split |
| Why can't the UK on 19:55 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Actually, this happened to us. Myself and my wife both suffered health problems that cost us our jobs and nearly our home. I had 4/5 years of that and depended on benefits. But unlike some we both worked hard,to get back to work, we had ended up in an IVA but we cleared our debts, got back to decent health levels and both work full time .
Bad stuff happens all the time but it's how you deal with it that matters. |
hope it worked for you, my case is a bit of a long novel, but it worked the other way, it was trying to save losing everything, and trying too hard working against things that were going against me at that time brought an overnight change , then illness to both that continues changes things life standards etc, but hey ho we are still here. and still a JB. | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 11:47 - Mar 23 with 427 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why can't the UK on 10:00 - Mar 23 by swan65split |
hope it worked for you, my case is a bit of a long novel, but it worked the other way, it was trying to save losing everything, and trying too hard working against things that were going against me at that time brought an overnight change , then illness to both that continues changes things life standards etc, but hey ho we are still here. and still a JB. |
Sorry to hear that mate. You're never beaten unless you give up. It took us 6/7 years but we got through it, you got to keep fighting.
Good luck YJB. | | | |
| Why can't the UK on 13:30 - Mar 23 with 386 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why can't the UK on 11:03 - Mar 22 by raynor94 |
What do you class yourself as? |
Welsh, you ? |  |
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| Why can't the UK on 13:32 - Mar 23 with 382 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why can't the UK on 17:02 - Mar 22 by swan65split |
Unfortunatly life is never the hollywood dream of school, work, happy family, and an active life/retirement.
Some, and I hope no one on here could find their life change overnight through no fault of their own , or no matter how hard they tried. |
Very true | |
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| Why can't the UK on 13:34 - Mar 23 with 381 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why can't the UK on 19:55 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Actually, this happened to us. Myself and my wife both suffered health problems that cost us our jobs and nearly our home. I had 4/5 years of that and depended on benefits. But unlike some we both worked hard,to get back to work, we had ended up in an IVA but we cleared our debts, got back to decent health levels and both work full time .
Bad stuff happens all the time but it's how you deal with it that matters. |
Well done - and i mean that. | |
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| Why can't the UK on 14:03 - Mar 23 with 375 views | raynor94 |
| Why can't the UK on 13:30 - Mar 23 by Kilkennyjack |
Welsh, you ? |
Welsh and British, so what's your thoughts on your age group voting for Brexit? | |
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| Why can't the UK on 13:28 - Mar 24 with 1133 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Why can't the UK on 19:25 - Mar 22 by max936 |
Where you been, he's never been any different. |
I am a free market supporter that believes in free choice. Most pensioners worked for 40 year or more and if they pilut a minimum and modest sum into a pension and monitored it they would be worth a fortune now. Similarly if they bought a house.
The government give handouts after 66 or 67 and cost health treatment is free at the point of delivery. Everyone was given a free education in n basic maths.
If you are skint in your 60 s and 70s it is likely to be either extremely bad luck or bad life choices. It was another mild winter in Swansea. Were there frosts at all.? If the house is cold then pay then get the property lagged.
US citizen have to paid a fortune for health. [Post edited 24 Mar 13:34]
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