| We need a Director of Football 09:19 - Apr 6 with 22343 views | Blue_Castello |
Now I can understand why combining the two jobs of CEO and DOF is a significant cost saving to the club and if you had the right person in the position with significant experience it could work. That person could set the overall strategy for the club ensure it is implemented and not have somebody else telling them to go in a different direction.
However we don't have an experienced CEO and we are paying the price, the issues with recruitment have been highlighted in previews and reports, the imbalance of the squad and the debatable purchases which appear to have been purely analytical driven.
We are currently competing against teams who understand the physicality of the Championship and if you can't match them then you are struggling before the kick off. It feels like the squads been put together by somebody sitting in front of a terminal looking at statistics and not trying to balance the needs of a squad that has to play sometimes 3 games in a week. The point was made by Kevin Gallen on the WLS podcast, the players from the overseas leagues do not have the same loading on the playing schedule and this can reflect in them not being so robust.
Surely enough time has been given to see if the cost saving would work with only one man in charge and we now need to bite the bullet and get a DOF before it's too late. It may not even cost the club a fortune, if we can find a Senior person who has experience of the Championship then they could be employed part time. It would be a difficult appointment to make because they have to work in harmony with the CEO but that's for the board to sort out.
There will possibly be cost savings with a reorganisation it happens in a lot of business when they are restructured, should we really be paying some bloke based in Dubai for consultancy.
Made me smile thinking of Uncle Neil coming back on a part time basis, I think his time has gone but he knew how to put a squad together, that's what we need somebody who understands the demands of the physicality of the Championship and we recruit players who are robust and less prone to injury.
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| We need a Director of Football on 10:14 - Apr 9 with 1511 views | GaryBannister86 |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:03 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
We have a situation where a significant part of our set up is out of their depth and the longer that goes on for we are in big trouble.
The ideal solution would be that anyone who has proven the theory that you always get promoted to a position of incompetency leaves but that won't be straight forward.
My solution would be to shake hands with Marti in June, thank him for what he has done and we wish him well for the future but it's simply the wrong role at the wrong time of his career. He's a lovely man but he's a few seasons away from being experienced enough in English football to manage us through some very unique circumstances.
If the club wasn't in the financial mess we are it would be different but this is, sadly, all a bit beyond him at the moment.
With Nourry it's a bit more difficult as he has the right ears listening to him and the model he proposes is what the Powers to be subscribe to.
He should also go but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is brought in over his head and he stays at the club for 3-5 years developing his experience before moving on.
Neither of their roles are suitable to 'learning on the job' and it is imperative that we bring in relevant experience . |
I've met a lot of QPR fans in my life, a lot. I haven't heard many venture the opinion that Marti should leave, and that Richard Thompson was some kind of legend.
I will say it now, losing Marti will be an adject disaster and unless by some miracle they find another excellent manager / poor sap, we will plummet. I think he's done a brilliant job, totally hindered by inexperienced, arrogant fools all around him.
Not even Steve Evans would put up with this. At least he might eat Nourry before Nourry eats himself. Would be quite a race. |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:30 - Apr 9 with 1449 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:03 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
We have a situation where a significant part of our set up is out of their depth and the longer that goes on for we are in big trouble.
The ideal solution would be that anyone who has proven the theory that you always get promoted to a position of incompetency leaves but that won't be straight forward.
My solution would be to shake hands with Marti in June, thank him for what he has done and we wish him well for the future but it's simply the wrong role at the wrong time of his career. He's a lovely man but he's a few seasons away from being experienced enough in English football to manage us through some very unique circumstances.
If the club wasn't in the financial mess we are it would be different but this is, sadly, all a bit beyond him at the moment.
With Nourry it's a bit more difficult as he has the right ears listening to him and the model he proposes is what the Powers to be subscribe to.
He should also go but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is brought in over his head and he stays at the club for 3-5 years developing his experience before moving on.
Neither of their roles are suitable to 'learning on the job' and it is imperative that we bring in relevant experience . |
Presume this is obviously your opinion that marti is out of his depth and nobody elses ? and once again ur opinion thats its the wrong role for him at this stage of his career ? he has his faults as all managers does but you have to agree his hands are pretty much tied by the poor recruitment he has been given , the club not addressing the contract situation of half the team is also a massive issue for him and the team , sacking him wont make the financial mess we are in any better and as usual will make it worse due to the paying off of his and calms contract in the summer. so less budget once again to use for players
who are the right ears ? ruben Hoos ? not really anyone else you would consider to be the right ears at the club these days Amit hasnt said a word in months Reilly is prob going round looking at tesla cars .
so ur saying giving nourry more time to feck things up even more is the way forward and make already bad mess one which will be a lot lot worse . but hey it seems ok at thompson was hard done by in the end !
the club has since it was bought out never had the right people in charge.
Beard
being the biggest idiot of them all .
for somebody whos by his own admission has checked out in being intrested you do seem to have a so called inside tract on whats going on which comes across as strange to me . |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 10:43 - Apr 9 with 1398 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:30 - Apr 9 by wombat |
Presume this is obviously your opinion that marti is out of his depth and nobody elses ? and once again ur opinion thats its the wrong role for him at this stage of his career ? he has his faults as all managers does but you have to agree his hands are pretty much tied by the poor recruitment he has been given , the club not addressing the contract situation of half the team is also a massive issue for him and the team , sacking him wont make the financial mess we are in any better and as usual will make it worse due to the paying off of his and calms contract in the summer. so less budget once again to use for players
who are the right ears ? ruben Hoos ? not really anyone else you would consider to be the right ears at the club these days Amit hasnt said a word in months Reilly is prob going round looking at tesla cars .
so ur saying giving nourry more time to feck things up even more is the way forward and make already bad mess one which will be a lot lot worse . but hey it seems ok at thompson was hard done by in the end !
the club has since it was bought out never had the right people in charge.
Beard
being the biggest idiot of them all .
for somebody whos by his own admission has checked out in being intrested you do seem to have a so called inside tract on whats going on which comes across as strange to me . |
I like the soap opera š¤«
It is my opinion that Marti is out of his depth, you'll have to ask others if they think so.
What I would say is that it is a clusterf**k and he's not the main issue but for him to be successful here will require money we haven't got and time we can't afford.
Everyone thinks he'll be a great manager - me included- but there's no point pretending that we can offer him what he needs to become one unless he's going to end up at a club in a similar car crash situation.
I think Marti is an honourable man and might walk. I get the impression that he acknowledges this isn't what he signed up for and he's not the right man on this occasion. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:57 - Apr 9 with 1332 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:43 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
I like the soap opera š¤«
It is my opinion that Marti is out of his depth, you'll have to ask others if they think so.
What I would say is that it is a clusterf**k and he's not the main issue but for him to be successful here will require money we haven't got and time we can't afford.
Everyone thinks he'll be a great manager - me included- but there's no point pretending that we can offer him what he needs to become one unless he's going to end up at a club in a similar car crash situation.
I think Marti is an honourable man and might walk. I get the impression that he acknowledges this isn't what he signed up for and he's not the right man on this occasion. |
all managers need backing be it behind the scenes or on the pitch and so far even with ltd funds and feck all backing hes done ok by most peoples books.
the clubs been a clusterfeck since TF came in and seemed to levelling out now once again we seem to be taking a step of four backwards , and this seems to be down to somebody neding a scapegoat and that scapegoat is the manager.
you made references about marti is using various ways of getting his side of things across but and as the wife will confirm not seen anything that you could link to him on any news service and certainly not by anyone who considers himself to be in the know.
i used to hate the soap opera myself its tiring and spoils the enjoyment of actually watching games eps when as they have done in the past employ certainso called superfans to do there dirty work who can forgot the drummer boy and scott anyone seen my red sofa jones . two absolute classics and funnily enough neither have been seeen at LR for years.
so we go the route of sacking another manager due to lack of cash yet hope a new manager who does come in and lets be honest nourry has prob already been on FM looking for somebody who will say yes sir no sir . but with even less ltd funds next season and a team built up of various cheap foreign imports .
season tkt renewals wont be high next season thats for sure ! | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 11:51 - Apr 9 with 1225 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:14 - Apr 9 by GaryBannister86 |
I've met a lot of QPR fans in my life, a lot. I haven't heard many venture the opinion that Marti should leave, and that Richard Thompson was some kind of legend.
I will say it now, losing Marti will be an adject disaster and unless by some miracle they find another excellent manager / poor sap, we will plummet. I think he's done a brilliant job, totally hindered by inexperienced, arrogant fools all around him.
Not even Steve Evans would put up with this. At least he might eat Nourry before Nourry eats himself. Would be quite a race. |
Cifuentes leaving would not be an āabject disasterā and he certainly hasnāt done a ābrilliant jobā. As with most managers/head coaches he has a very mixed record.
Would you say that if we get relegated this season? |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:10 - Apr 9 with 1178 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 11:51 - Apr 9 by Ned_Kennedys |
Cifuentes leaving would not be an āabject disasterā and he certainly hasnāt done a ābrilliant jobā. As with most managers/head coaches he has a very mixed record.
Would you say that if we get relegated this season? |
id gurss he wont say anything apart from job done , and never to be seen as stevew6 again | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 12:15 - Apr 9 with 1149 views | GaryBannister86 |
| We need a Director of Football on 11:51 - Apr 9 by Ned_Kennedys |
Cifuentes leaving would not be an āabject disasterā and he certainly hasnāt done a ābrilliant jobā. As with most managers/head coaches he has a very mixed record.
Would you say that if we get relegated this season? |
Yes Ned, I wouldn't change my stance if we get relegated. If we don't, I don't think many would have kept us up the last two seasons with the personnel has had.
Now, I am not one of those privy as to whose responsibility the recruitment and fitness disaster is, so I am also aware that my view is based on my belief that he has been dealt a really poor hand of cards.
I know if that isn't the truth, then perhaps he isn't as good as I think he is, but that is what I believe. [Post edited 9 Apr 12:17]
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| We need a Director of Football on 13:21 - Apr 9 with 1034 views | BklynRanger |
Well if 'SteveW6' really is the modern day reincarnation of QBlockPete/Scott Jones he seems to be painting for us a potential scenario where Nourry is open to dropping down a rung or two.
Which I find a bit interesting. |  | | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 13:57 - Apr 9 with 932 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:21 - Apr 9 by BklynRanger |
Well if 'SteveW6' really is the modern day reincarnation of QBlockPete/Scott Jones he seems to be painting for us a potential scenario where Nourry is open to dropping down a rung or two.
Which I find a bit interesting. |
they hyrbrid bastard reincarnation would be a better explanation of the two id say.
id be suppirsed if nourry is dropping down in anyway esp if u surround ur self with ur old mates and have now mounted a full on anti marti campaign as it seems we are in the middle off .stvee in his present guise was an intresting version of the old days , nice subject shift with thompson etc talk about the old days some of which he was wrong with by the way so being fed info by somebody id say as half decent knowldge of them dark days.has lost intrst in the club one minute but next hes giving sly comments about whats going on and what Might happen in the coming weeks , i really thought we was past them days to be honest .
my fav comment was the marti has to have a PR person and it would be suicide if he didnt lol they really must be running scared of what he could say , so if sorry when he does leave id be guessing a pretty heavy NDA will be handed to himwith his last paycheck. | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 14:09 - Apr 9 with 883 views | TK1 |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:21 - Apr 9 by BklynRanger |
Well if 'SteveW6' really is the modern day reincarnation of QBlockPete/Scott Jones he seems to be painting for us a potential scenario where Nourry is open to dropping down a rung or two.
Which I find a bit interesting. |
Reading all the hints from 'SteveW6', these outcomes seem likely to me:
They will edge out Cifuentes, but the need to at the same time give with the other hand to the fans very generously will be vital.
They will have to bring in someone to QPR who already has his own beloved song. I am serious about this. Otherwise, Nourry and whoever from the board still comes to games will be sitting there in the directors box bottom of the league in November with another interim in charge listening to 10k singing the Cifuentes Estrella song on repeat.
So, to great fanfare, they will install a club legend in an important-sounding job nominally overseeing football biz, but it will be ceremonial and Nourry continues as is while this new fella does lots of public-facing PR. He'll have to have his own song already (like Kevin Gallen), but be totally obedient (probably not Kevin Gallen).
OR...they replace Cifuentes with someone who ticks all those boxes that Steve W6 says Marti does not - eg, understands the league, the club, the budget,the set-up through the teams, 'the culture' yawn - but crucially does have his own song, commands external/internal respect and would view the job as a step-up.
Someone like Paul Furlong. Ticks all the boxes and might buy the board a month. Might not. But has a good song.
The Development squad being cup semi-finalists is not harming this theory, which is otherwise unfounded. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:13 - Apr 9 with 858 views | mart_Goblin |
See what the info void does?
He was warned . |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:25 - Apr 9 with 811 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I love the picture on the Christmas one. Messianic.
He's our own personal Jesus. |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 14:39 - Apr 9 with 758 views | wombat |
first one is the look of somebody whos just a silent but violent one go
second on looks like somebody whos expected a small fart and then sussed his arse was wet .
wonder what spin hes going to put on this ? | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 14:40 - Apr 9 with 755 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:57 - Apr 9 by wombat |
they hyrbrid bastard reincarnation would be a better explanation of the two id say.
id be suppirsed if nourry is dropping down in anyway esp if u surround ur self with ur old mates and have now mounted a full on anti marti campaign as it seems we are in the middle off .stvee in his present guise was an intresting version of the old days , nice subject shift with thompson etc talk about the old days some of which he was wrong with by the way so being fed info by somebody id say as half decent knowldge of them dark days.has lost intrst in the club one minute but next hes giving sly comments about whats going on and what Might happen in the coming weeks , i really thought we was past them days to be honest .
my fav comment was the marti has to have a PR person and it would be suicide if he didnt lol they really must be running scared of what he could say , so if sorry when he does leave id be guessing a pretty heavy NDA will be handed to himwith his last paycheck. |
Even Mrs Cifuentes says that an advisor on standby is par des normes now...
It's 2025.
And NDAs? That's common practice now too.
Have you been retired long? | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:41 - Apr 9 with 742 views | Hunterhoop |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:09 - Apr 9 by TK1 |
Reading all the hints from 'SteveW6', these outcomes seem likely to me:
They will edge out Cifuentes, but the need to at the same time give with the other hand to the fans very generously will be vital.
They will have to bring in someone to QPR who already has his own beloved song. I am serious about this. Otherwise, Nourry and whoever from the board still comes to games will be sitting there in the directors box bottom of the league in November with another interim in charge listening to 10k singing the Cifuentes Estrella song on repeat.
So, to great fanfare, they will install a club legend in an important-sounding job nominally overseeing football biz, but it will be ceremonial and Nourry continues as is while this new fella does lots of public-facing PR. He'll have to have his own song already (like Kevin Gallen), but be totally obedient (probably not Kevin Gallen).
OR...they replace Cifuentes with someone who ticks all those boxes that Steve W6 says Marti does not - eg, understands the league, the club, the budget,the set-up through the teams, 'the culture' yawn - but crucially does have his own song, commands external/internal respect and would view the job as a step-up.
Someone like Paul Furlong. Ticks all the boxes and might buy the board a month. Might not. But has a good song.
The Development squad being cup semi-finalists is not harming this theory, which is otherwise unfounded. |
I love Paul Furlong more than most. Clearly doing good things with the Dev side.
But itās a bit of a stretch to say he understands the League. Heās never managed or coached in any capacity in it. Giving him the First Team Head Coach role now would be setting him up for failure, and, were that to come to pass, Iād be sad.
I agree with everything else. |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:42 - Apr 9 with 732 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:40 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
Even Mrs Cifuentes says that an advisor on standby is par des normes now...
It's 2025.
And NDAs? That's common practice now too.
Have you been retired long? |
no still doing the same shit what about u steve ?/ pete ?/ scott ?/ tony?
so if somebody goes off track in an interview and the advisor is standing by what do they actually do ? freddom of speach etc , cancel the interview demand the part they dont like is removed , would love to see it in action pete / scott tony | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 14:44 - Apr 9 with 726 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:09 - Apr 9 by TK1 |
Reading all the hints from 'SteveW6', these outcomes seem likely to me:
They will edge out Cifuentes, but the need to at the same time give with the other hand to the fans very generously will be vital.
They will have to bring in someone to QPR who already has his own beloved song. I am serious about this. Otherwise, Nourry and whoever from the board still comes to games will be sitting there in the directors box bottom of the league in November with another interim in charge listening to 10k singing the Cifuentes Estrella song on repeat.
So, to great fanfare, they will install a club legend in an important-sounding job nominally overseeing football biz, but it will be ceremonial and Nourry continues as is while this new fella does lots of public-facing PR. He'll have to have his own song already (like Kevin Gallen), but be totally obedient (probably not Kevin Gallen).
OR...they replace Cifuentes with someone who ticks all those boxes that Steve W6 says Marti does not - eg, understands the league, the club, the budget,the set-up through the teams, 'the culture' yawn - but crucially does have his own song, commands external/internal respect and would view the job as a step-up.
Someone like Paul Furlong. Ticks all the boxes and might buy the board a month. Might not. But has a good song.
The Development squad being cup semi-finalists is not harming this theory, which is otherwise unfounded. |
If they don't get promoted it wouldn't surprise me if Nathan Jones was poached from Charlton. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:46 - Apr 9 with 718 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:42 - Apr 9 by wombat |
no still doing the same shit what about u steve ?/ pete ?/ scott ?/ tony?
so if somebody goes off track in an interview and the advisor is standing by what do they actually do ? freddom of speach etc , cancel the interview demand the part they dont like is removed , would love to see it in action pete / scott tony |
I'm neither of those people.
Why don't you do some research about media interviews in 2025 and get back to me?
You're a bit behind the times mate š | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:47 - Apr 9 with 706 views | TheChef |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:44 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
If they don't get promoted it wouldn't surprise me if Nathan Jones was poached from Charlton. |
OK that's enough WUMing for one day!
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| We need a Director of Football on 14:48 - Apr 9 with 701 views | Hunterhoop |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:44 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
If they don't get promoted it wouldn't surprise me if Nathan Jones was poached from Charlton. |
Christ. He is an awful person. Tell Christian to stick not twist, and to invest a bit in a scouting network maybe at the expense of one or two in Belkās team, for balance. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:48 - Apr 9 with 701 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:21 - Apr 9 by BklynRanger |
Well if 'SteveW6' really is the modern day reincarnation of QBlockPete/Scott Jones he seems to be painting for us a potential scenario where Nourry is open to dropping down a rung or two.
Which I find a bit interesting. |
I said I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, not that I think it will.
A way around it would be restructuring.
But pure speculation.
If people think some are disappointed with Marti, why can't they envision the same being disappointed with Nourry but having hands tied? | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:53 - Apr 9 with 674 views | Northernr |
Youāre being trolled lads. |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:59 - Apr 9 with 643 views | TK1 |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:41 - Apr 9 by Hunterhoop |
I love Paul Furlong more than most. Clearly doing good things with the Dev side.
But itās a bit of a stretch to say he understands the League. Heās never managed or coached in any capacity in it. Giving him the First Team Head Coach role now would be setting him up for failure, and, were that to come to pass, Iād be sad.
I agree with everything else. |
Yeah, agree but the people who gave you Les Ferdinand as a Director of Football when the kitchen got a bit hot for them could easily give you Paul Furlong as First Team Coach (or Bircham, Gallen, Clive Allen, or whoever as DOF) now the kitchen's going to get hot again. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:59 - Apr 9 with 638 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 14:53 - Apr 9 by Northernr |
Youāre being trolled lads. |
You're not, 'lads'...
Happy for you all to take everything I say at face value or with a pinch of salt š
Where I'm speculating I say.
When I offer an opinion I say.
Where I saying something is fact I say. | | | |
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