| We need a Director of Football 09:19 - Apr 6 with 22342 views | Blue_Castello |
Now I can understand why combining the two jobs of CEO and DOF is a significant cost saving to the club and if you had the right person in the position with significant experience it could work. That person could set the overall strategy for the club ensure it is implemented and not have somebody else telling them to go in a different direction.
However we don't have an experienced CEO and we are paying the price, the issues with recruitment have been highlighted in previews and reports, the imbalance of the squad and the debatable purchases which appear to have been purely analytical driven.
We are currently competing against teams who understand the physicality of the Championship and if you can't match them then you are struggling before the kick off. It feels like the squads been put together by somebody sitting in front of a terminal looking at statistics and not trying to balance the needs of a squad that has to play sometimes 3 games in a week. The point was made by Kevin Gallen on the WLS podcast, the players from the overseas leagues do not have the same loading on the playing schedule and this can reflect in them not being so robust.
Surely enough time has been given to see if the cost saving would work with only one man in charge and we now need to bite the bullet and get a DOF before it's too late. It may not even cost the club a fortune, if we can find a Senior person who has experience of the Championship then they could be employed part time. It would be a difficult appointment to make because they have to work in harmony with the CEO but that's for the board to sort out.
There will possibly be cost savings with a reorganisation it happens in a lot of business when they are restructured, should we really be paying some bloke based in Dubai for consultancy.
Made me smile thinking of Uncle Neil coming back on a part time basis, I think his time has gone but he knew how to put a squad together, that's what we need somebody who understands the demands of the physicality of the Championship and we recruit players who are robust and less prone to injury.
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| We need a Director of Football on 19:56 - Apr 8 with 1793 views | Northernr |
This is so fcking laughably transparent at this point  |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:59 - Apr 8 with 1785 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:48 - Apr 8 by GaryHaddock |
Just so I’m clear…
- Nourry was secretly in charge before his ‘official’ appointment
- Marti finds podcasts overwhelming (except for the one ones he’s done) |
Ya, we're getting into ITK territory now.
Opinions have given away to 'facts'.
Still, no cheese preference.
Won't someone please think of the cheese? |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 19:59 - Apr 8 with 1783 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:56 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
This is so fcking laughably transparent at this point |
Even Gianni would be blushing. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:00 - Apr 8 with 1778 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:53 - Apr 8 by lassel |
Hammarby average over 25k every week and have a long history of European football.
The idea that Cifuentes is now overwhelmed by managing the behemoth that is QPR and so now desperately hiding from North is so silly even Christian wouldn’t try and pass it off. |
Are you really suggesting that Hammarny are a bigger club than QPR?
The pressures of managing both can't seriously be compared...
Also, Lincoln Red Imps play in Europe every season but managing them wouldn't prepare you for the scrutiny that comes with managing an English Championship team...
Chalk and cheese mate. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:06 - Apr 8 with 1735 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:00 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Are you really suggesting that Hammarny are a bigger club than QPR?
The pressures of managing both can't seriously be compared...
Also, Lincoln Red Imps play in Europe every season but managing them wouldn't prepare you for the scrutiny that comes with managing an English Championship team...
Chalk and cheese mate. |
I mean you’re the one suggesting that Cifuentes has simply wilted under the weight of the humorous QPR fanbase, having come directly from a club with a significantly bigger fanbase and who face at least 10 games a season with a more intense atmosphere and expectation than any game QPR are part of.
And even then, he made time to big himself up to friendly journos.
We’ve gotten to an absurdity level even Wes Anderson would want to tone down. [Post edited 8 Apr 20:08]
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| We need a Director of Football on 20:15 - Apr 8 with 1689 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:06 - Apr 8 by lassel |
I mean you’re the one suggesting that Cifuentes has simply wilted under the weight of the humorous QPR fanbase, having come directly from a club with a significantly bigger fanbase and who face at least 10 games a season with a more intense atmosphere and expectation than any game QPR are part of.
And even then, he made time to big himself up to friendly journos.
We’ve gotten to an absurdity level even Wes Anderson would want to tone down. [Post edited 8 Apr 20:08]
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No, you're right.
Managing Hammarby in the Swedish League with a TV deal with Sweden, Norway and Denmark and prize money of a few million and a packet of fruit pastilles is far harder than managing QPR in one of the toughest leagues in the World with a TV deal across the globe and the potential to earn a significant amount if millions.
Throw in the fact that QPR are significantly in debt and he has that burden resting on his shoulders I'm amazed he's not singing Zipide Doo Dah every day 👍
Sorry to doubt you Mrs Cifuentes 😢 | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:22 - Apr 8 with 1658 views | GaryHaddock |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:00 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Are you really suggesting that Hammarny are a bigger club than QPR?
The pressures of managing both can't seriously be compared...
Also, Lincoln Red Imps play in Europe every season but managing them wouldn't prepare you for the scrutiny that comes with managing an English Championship team...
Chalk and cheese mate. |
I might be wrong, but isn’t the prize money for finishing 16th in the Championships £90k or something? |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:39 - Apr 8 with 1574 views | flynnbo |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:00 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Are you really suggesting that Hammarny are a bigger club than QPR?
The pressures of managing both can't seriously be compared...
Also, Lincoln Red Imps play in Europe every season but managing them wouldn't prepare you for the scrutiny that comes with managing an English Championship team...
Chalk and cheese mate. |
There’s your dairy product question answered, Brian. It’s “chalk and cheese”. |  | | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 20:40 - Apr 8 with 1564 views | OldPedro |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:15 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
No, you're right.
Managing Hammarby in the Swedish League with a TV deal with Sweden, Norway and Denmark and prize money of a few million and a packet of fruit pastilles is far harder than managing QPR in one of the toughest leagues in the World with a TV deal across the globe and the potential to earn a significant amount if millions.
Throw in the fact that QPR are significantly in debt and he has that burden resting on his shoulders I'm amazed he's not singing Zipide Doo Dah every day 👍
Sorry to doubt you Mrs Cifuentes 😢 |
If he is Mrs Cifuentes, you must be Nourry's mum  |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 20:47 - Apr 8 with 1534 views | qpr_1968 |
we need a f...ing manager that can put out 11 players that can win a football match. | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 20:56 - Apr 8 with 1478 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:15 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
No, you're right.
Managing Hammarby in the Swedish League with a TV deal with Sweden, Norway and Denmark and prize money of a few million and a packet of fruit pastilles is far harder than managing QPR in one of the toughest leagues in the World with a TV deal across the globe and the potential to earn a significant amount if millions.
Throw in the fact that QPR are significantly in debt and he has that burden resting on his shoulders I'm amazed he's not singing Zipide Doo Dah every day 👍
Sorry to doubt you Mrs Cifuentes 😢 |
As a genuine offer Steve, I’ll happily get you a couple of decent tickets for Hammarby v Djurgården or AIK and let you see for yourself. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:19 - Apr 8 with 1394 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:56 - Apr 8 by lassel |
As a genuine offer Steve, I’ll happily get you a couple of decent tickets for Hammarby v Djurgården or AIK and let you see for yourself. |
I've seen matches in Sweden and I know how passionate they are: a friend of a friend played for AIK.
What is ludicrous, in my opinion, is any comparison of the pressures of managing in Sweden and in the Championship in England, the latter with a broke team as well.
They're not comparable and no one would seriously believe they are.
We've both obviously got a line to people who are at a minimum at the fringes of the ongoing situation and as a consequence we shouldn't be niave to pretend that both sides - 3 if you take other issues seriously- aren't tailoring their versions of truth to ensure their legacies aren't in tatters when the inevitable happens... [Post edited 8 Apr 21:26]
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| We need a Director of Football on 21:35 - Apr 8 with 1337 views | KensalT |
| We need a Director of Football on 20:15 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
No, you're right.
Managing Hammarby in the Swedish League with a TV deal with Sweden, Norway and Denmark and prize money of a few million and a packet of fruit pastilles is far harder than managing QPR in one of the toughest leagues in the World with a TV deal across the globe and the potential to earn a significant amount if millions.
Throw in the fact that QPR are significantly in debt and he has that burden resting on his shoulders I'm amazed he's not singing Zipide Doo Dah every day 👍
Sorry to doubt you Mrs Cifuentes 😢 |
"Managing Hammarby in the Swedish League with a TV deal with Sweden, Norway and Denmark and prize money of a few million and a packet of fruit pastilles is far harder than managing QPR in one of the toughest leagues in the World with a TV deal across the globe and the potential to earn a significant amount if millions."
Are you suggesting the Championship is a major competition?
Even though you don't think it awards a major trophy.
Although the trophy itself has an illustrious history and used to mean something.
In your own words:
"It is tue 2nd tier trophy now regardless of its illustrious history and you know that."
Don't know about you but I'm confused :-) | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:37 - Apr 8 with 1326 views | GaryHaddock |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:19 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
I've seen matches in Sweden and I know how passionate they are: a friend of a friend played for AIK.
What is ludicrous, in my opinion, is any comparison of the pressures of managing in Sweden and in the Championship in England, the latter with a broke team as well.
They're not comparable and no one would seriously believe they are.
We've both obviously got a line to people who are at a minimum at the fringes of the ongoing situation and as a consequence we shouldn't be niave to pretend that both sides - 3 if you take other issues seriously- aren't tailoring their versions of truth to ensure their legacies aren't in tatters when the inevitable happens... [Post edited 8 Apr 21:26]
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What’s your solution mate? | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:49 - Apr 8 with 1276 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:19 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
I've seen matches in Sweden and I know how passionate they are: a friend of a friend played for AIK.
What is ludicrous, in my opinion, is any comparison of the pressures of managing in Sweden and in the Championship in England, the latter with a broke team as well.
They're not comparable and no one would seriously believe they are.
We've both obviously got a line to people who are at a minimum at the fringes of the ongoing situation and as a consequence we shouldn't be niave to pretend that both sides - 3 if you take other issues seriously- aren't tailoring their versions of truth to ensure their legacies aren't in tatters when the inevitable happens... [Post edited 8 Apr 21:26]
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Fair enough, as said before I don’t think we are far away from each other on most things, I would just suggest that thinking Cifuentes is overawed by QPR and reticent to talk to North rather than working harder than the devil with his agent to get to the top flight is a tad naive. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 22:26 - Apr 8 with 1189 views | mart_Goblin |
Who’s banging that drum ? |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 22:34 - Apr 8 with 1157 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:17 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Hibs/St Mirren was back end of 80s.
We went back to Easter Road in 1995. The same summer of Plymouth away and Chippies goal at Millwall in a very passionate 'friendly'. 👍 |
Thanks again for the time tunnel update I know I was there thanks and went via the train . As for spin. You seem to be doing a decent amount on ur own to be totally honest , wonder why ?Are the club handing out free laptops again ? or something more in this modern age [Post edited 9 Apr 8:36]
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| We need a Director of Football on 22:53 - Apr 8 with 1133 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:19 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
I've seen matches in Sweden and I know how passionate they are: a friend of a friend played for AIK.
What is ludicrous, in my opinion, is any comparison of the pressures of managing in Sweden and in the Championship in England, the latter with a broke team as well.
They're not comparable and no one would seriously believe they are.
We've both obviously got a line to people who are at a minimum at the fringes of the ongoing situation and as a consequence we shouldn't be niave to pretend that both sides - 3 if you take other issues seriously- aren't tailoring their versions of truth to ensure their legacies aren't in tatters when the inevitable happens... [Post edited 8 Apr 21:26]
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So presuming nourry is one of the factions and he’s protecting his legacy as you stated , what is his legacy ?, he’s a young man who’s made a career out of ttelling ,in the board he was brilliant at football manger and they believed him , the board have quickly found out he’s not such a whizz at football Manager and he’s actually pissed what money we had up the all with some of his signing while totally ignoring the positions which indeed did need filling, yeah that’s a legacy to protect similar to Fred West having landscape gardening company I suppose . This makes some of the spin produced byGP and his hangers on look like nothing . My fav is marti is scared to be interviewed by Clive or anyone else and if it was to happen a club PRperson would be sat nearby with a fire extinguisher . Or the club would invites people to speak via pre arranged questions , do you actually belive slme of the stuff you seem to be being told to post today ? We all like a drink but come on , u less the bank balance is looking. Tad short even u must find some of this hard to swallow . I get the feeling tomorrow night could be a long night for nourry esp if the result goes against us , the fans supported marti whe n his back was basing the wall not so long ago and so far nourry has seemingly escaped it from the fans , maybe Tom row is the night that all changes ? | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 23:53 - Apr 8 with 1044 views | numptydumpty |
Ooh this all sounds interesting
However my intellect can't work out what points people are making !!!
Apart from relatives of Nourry and Cifuentes having a slanging match.
My dinner lady at school many moons ago was Mrs Ian Gillard and as such I retain power over the Nourry and Cifuentes clan and say you all need have a long hard look at yourselves because this thread has turned into a load of old psycho babble !!! |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 07:02 - Apr 9 with 880 views | PunteR |
Did Clive ever get off that train? |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 08:34 - Apr 9 with 762 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:59 - Apr 8 by lassel |
Even Gianni would be blushing. |
this is next level GP , he would never even dream of coming up with crap of this high level , intetmixed with do you remember the good old LSA days as a sweetener lol . [Post edited 9 Apr 8:47]
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| We need a Director of Football on 09:28 - Apr 9 with 667 views | RBlock |
| We need a Director of Football on 07:02 - Apr 9 by PunteR |
Did Clive ever get off that train? |
Rumour has it he's still somewhere near the outer reaches of the Northern line, working his way through a never-ending crate of Peroni |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 09:34 - Apr 9 with 634 views | aston_hoop |
| We need a Director of Football on 07:02 - Apr 9 by PunteR |
Did Clive ever get off that train? |
Been on that train almost as long as Ched Evans has been on that bus joining us |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 10:03 - Apr 9 with 577 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 21:37 - Apr 8 by GaryHaddock |
What’s your solution mate? |
We have a situation where a significant part of our set up is out of their depth and the longer that goes on for we are in big trouble.
The ideal solution would be that anyone who has proven the theory that you always get promoted to a position of incompetency leaves but that won't be straight forward.
My solution would be to shake hands with Marti in June, thank him for what he has done and we wish him well for the future but it's simply the wrong role at the wrong time of his career. He's a lovely man but he's a few seasons away from being experienced enough in English football to manage us through some very unique circumstances.
If the club wasn't in the financial mess we are it would be different but this is, sadly, all a bit beyond him at the moment.
With Nourry it's a bit more difficult as he has the right ears listening to him and the model he proposes is what the Powers to be subscribe to.
He should also go but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is brought in over his head and he stays at the club for 3-5 years developing his experience before moving on.
Neither of their roles are suitable to 'learning on the job' and it is imperative that we bring in relevant experience . | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:12 - Apr 9 with 551 views | KensalT |
| We need a Director of Football on 10:03 - Apr 9 by SteveW6 |
We have a situation where a significant part of our set up is out of their depth and the longer that goes on for we are in big trouble.
The ideal solution would be that anyone who has proven the theory that you always get promoted to a position of incompetency leaves but that won't be straight forward.
My solution would be to shake hands with Marti in June, thank him for what he has done and we wish him well for the future but it's simply the wrong role at the wrong time of his career. He's a lovely man but he's a few seasons away from being experienced enough in English football to manage us through some very unique circumstances.
If the club wasn't in the financial mess we are it would be different but this is, sadly, all a bit beyond him at the moment.
With Nourry it's a bit more difficult as he has the right ears listening to him and the model he proposes is what the Powers to be subscribe to.
He should also go but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is brought in over his head and he stays at the club for 3-5 years developing his experience before moving on.
Neither of their roles are suitable to 'learning on the job' and it is imperative that we bring in relevant experience . |
"With Nourry it's a bit more difficult as he has the right ears listening to him and the model he proposes is what the Powers to be subscribe to.
He should also go but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is brought in over his head and he stays at the club for 3-5 years developing his experience before moving on."
You want to reduce the CEO to a glorified work experience boy.
The CEO is the most powerful position in any organisation.
Bringing in someone over his head would be wrongful dismissal. He could walk and demand full payment of his contract!
Quite an expensive option. [Post edited 9 Apr 10:15]
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