| We need a Director of Football 09:19 - Apr 6 with 24110 views | Blue_Castello |
Now I can understand why combining the two jobs of CEO and DOF is a significant cost saving to the club and if you had the right person in the position with significant experience it could work. That person could set the overall strategy for the club ensure it is implemented and not have somebody else telling them to go in a different direction.
However we don't have an experienced CEO and we are paying the price, the issues with recruitment have been highlighted in previews and reports, the imbalance of the squad and the debatable purchases which appear to have been purely analytical driven.
We are currently competing against teams who understand the physicality of the Championship and if you can't match them then you are struggling before the kick off. It feels like the squads been put together by somebody sitting in front of a terminal looking at statistics and not trying to balance the needs of a squad that has to play sometimes 3 games in a week. The point was made by Kevin Gallen on the WLS podcast, the players from the overseas leagues do not have the same loading on the playing schedule and this can reflect in them not being so robust.
Surely enough time has been given to see if the cost saving would work with only one man in charge and we now need to bite the bullet and get a DOF before it's too late. It may not even cost the club a fortune, if we can find a Senior person who has experience of the Championship then they could be employed part time. It would be a difficult appointment to make because they have to work in harmony with the CEO but that's for the board to sort out.
There will possibly be cost savings with a reorganisation it happens in a lot of business when they are restructured, should we really be paying some bloke based in Dubai for consultancy.
Made me smile thinking of Uncle Neil coming back on a part time basis, I think his time has gone but he knew how to put a squad together, that's what we need somebody who understands the demands of the physicality of the Championship and we recruit players who are robust and less prone to injury.
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| We need a Director of Football on 17:07 - Apr 8 with 1246 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 16:48 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
We need Nourry to learn from the lessons he's cruelly learnt this season or walk. Neither will happen and he's talking tonthe right ears to ensure his version of the truth is heard where it matters.
Great days in the 90s with the LSA from days out to shitholes, the coach up to Hibs although I was sat close to Elicott 😬, and laughs like the trip to Bury. Loved the banter and the sense of belonging.
It's not like that anymore. Youngsters coming through need organised displays and would be offended by the jokes we had on the coaches.
Did 3 seasons without missing more than 3 games in each but struggle to care nowadays. Social thing when I can be arsed.
It's a different club to the one we supported and I don't like the way it feels now or most of the new fanbase. |
big ask for nourry to learn from this season mistakes when lets be honest he dosnt seem to want to . coach to hibs ? we went up from train with the lsa dont remember a coach going up for that one or the following sat when we played st mirren another long day trip by train its was an early start and a bloody long train trip up and back on the sat.
youngsters today are way worse than we was back in the day , mainly because our main intrest at the time was having a few beers and watching the game not anything u can find to stick up our noses which is footballs isue these days , and being desperate to get to the bar before half time .and usualy staying there
for somebody who by his own admision dosnt care why suddenly from nowhere jump on a thread divert the thread or to be honest try to to the thompson years not the subject intended , seems a tad weird to me . but each to ther own i suppose , nothing supprises me at the moment |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 17:08 - Apr 8 with 1246 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 16:48 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
We need Nourry to learn from the lessons he's cruelly learnt this season or walk. Neither will happen and he's talking tonthe right ears to ensure his version of the truth is heard where it matters.
Great days in the 90s with the LSA from days out to shitholes, the coach up to Hibs although I was sat close to Elicott 😬, and laughs like the trip to Bury. Loved the banter and the sense of belonging.
It's not like that anymore. Youngsters coming through need organised displays and would be offended by the jokes we had on the coaches.
Did 3 seasons without missing more than 3 games in each but struggle to care nowadays. Social thing when I can be arsed.
It's a different club to the one we supported and I don't like the way it feels now or most of the new fanbase. |
Just to add to that 1st paragraph, that's not saying that he's the root of every problem at the club.
Him being a sub-standard operative shouldn't detract from other issues. Marti isn't an entirely innocent party in all of this and is deploying spin that would make Shane Warne sit up and notice...
For avoidance of doubt, both going would be beneficial. [Post edited 8 Apr 17:09]
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| We need a Director of Football on 17:11 - Apr 8 with 1243 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:07 - Apr 8 by wombat |
big ask for nourry to learn from this season mistakes when lets be honest he dosnt seem to want to . coach to hibs ? we went up from train with the lsa dont remember a coach going up for that one or the following sat when we played st mirren another long day trip by train its was an early start and a bloody long train trip up and back on the sat.
youngsters today are way worse than we was back in the day , mainly because our main intrest at the time was having a few beers and watching the game not anything u can find to stick up our noses which is footballs isue these days , and being desperate to get to the bar before half time .and usualy staying there
for somebody who by his own admision dosnt care why suddenly from nowhere jump on a thread divert the thread or to be honest try to to the thompson years not the subject intended , seems a tad weird to me . but each to ther own i suppose , nothing supprises me at the moment |
Half the fun of the LSA coach was knowing if it kicked off we'd more than hold our own!
Also, there were people smoking out of cans at the back of the bus among other things.
Youngsters today are cosplaying. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:11 - Apr 8 with 1242 views | mart_Goblin |
Not read all of this thread because quite simply I’m not ready for a self induced come but skimming through this caught my eye :
I'm in favour of controlled access to Marti.Not necessarily pre submitted questions but with an advisor on hand to step in when required.
Only my opinion of course , but that strikes me as the most peculiar stance any fan could take.
Why on Earth would you want to do that unless you knew he was potentially going to ‘drop the curtain’ behind the illusion ? |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:13 - Apr 8 with 1240 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:11 - Apr 8 by mart_Goblin |
Not read all of this thread because quite simply I’m not ready for a self induced come but skimming through this caught my eye :
I'm in favour of controlled access to Marti.Not necessarily pre submitted questions but with an advisor on hand to step in when required.
Only my opinion of course , but that strikes me as the most peculiar stance any fan could take.
Why on Earth would you want to do that unless you knew he was potentially going to ‘drop the curtain’ behind the illusion ? |
Because there's things that could be misinterpreted...
He's not going to spill any beans publicly- he puts his own truth out via other methods - but it's bad practice to be giving interviews in 2025 without an advisor. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:17 - Apr 8 with 1229 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:07 - Apr 8 by wombat |
big ask for nourry to learn from this season mistakes when lets be honest he dosnt seem to want to . coach to hibs ? we went up from train with the lsa dont remember a coach going up for that one or the following sat when we played st mirren another long day trip by train its was an early start and a bloody long train trip up and back on the sat.
youngsters today are way worse than we was back in the day , mainly because our main intrest at the time was having a few beers and watching the game not anything u can find to stick up our noses which is footballs isue these days , and being desperate to get to the bar before half time .and usualy staying there
for somebody who by his own admision dosnt care why suddenly from nowhere jump on a thread divert the thread or to be honest try to to the thompson years not the subject intended , seems a tad weird to me . but each to ther own i suppose , nothing supprises me at the moment |
Hibs/St Mirren was back end of 80s.
We went back to Easter Road in 1995. The same summer of Plymouth away and Chippies goal at Millwall in a very passionate 'friendly'. 👍 | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:23 - Apr 8 with 1202 views | mart_Goblin |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:13 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Because there's things that could be misinterpreted...
He's not going to spill any beans publicly- he puts his own truth out via other methods - but it's bad practice to be giving interviews in 2025 without an advisor. |
Why would we worry about things being misinterpreted if there was nothing to worry about ?
Did Man Urd worry about Ferguson ‘saying the wrong thing’ or Liverpool shut down Klopp because he might be ‘misinterpreted’?
Never heard such nonsense in my life .
These are grown men you know? [Post edited 8 Apr 17:52]
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| We need a Director of Football on 17:39 - Apr 8 with 1135 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:23 - Apr 8 by mart_Goblin |
Why would we worry about things being misinterpreted if there was nothing to worry about ?
Did Man Urd worry about Ferguson ‘saying the wrong thing’ or Liverpool shut down Klopp because he might be ‘misinterpreted’?
Never heard such nonsense in my life .
These are grown men you know? [Post edited 8 Apr 17:52]
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My wife has worked with Premier League clubs including Manchester United.
The clubs' have advisors on standby any time any employee is giving an interview to the extent that when she was working on a marketing campaign for the U21 sides they have 2 on site....
There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes at LR but if you think that's the only thing that the PR team will be worried about being misinterpreted you're, respectfully, very niave.
Klopp and Ferguson (post 95) never gave an interview out of earshot from a PR advisor. | | | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 18:08 - Apr 8 with 1086 views | mart_Goblin |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:39 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
My wife has worked with Premier League clubs including Manchester United.
The clubs' have advisors on standby any time any employee is giving an interview to the extent that when she was working on a marketing campaign for the U21 sides they have 2 on site....
There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes at LR but if you think that's the only thing that the PR team will be worried about being misinterpreted you're, respectfully, very niave.
Klopp and Ferguson (post 95) never gave an interview out of earshot from a PR advisor. |
But that suggests that there WASN’T loads of stuff going on behind the scenes when every other manager/ coach in the last 20 years was allowed to speak to people like Clive and beyond .
We plainly know there was and has been for decades , so why are ‘QPR’ so afraid of this coach in particular.
He’s polite, erudite , calm and thoughtful from what we can gather .
Has his faults as a coach that’s for sure but what is it that we cannot hear that he can’t post on his own social media that can’t be misinterpreted?
He towed the party line up until very recently.
But we are and have been petrified he will be ‘misinterpreted’ ever since Nourry took both roles.
Players have been put up for things like podcasts , doing it from their own home ….was there a club advisor behind Paul Nardi’s couch in case he said something we all ‘misinterpreted’?
Give over [Post edited 8 Apr 18:09]
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| We need a Director of Football on 18:26 - Apr 8 with 1018 views | KensalT |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:08 - Apr 8 by mart_Goblin |
But that suggests that there WASN’T loads of stuff going on behind the scenes when every other manager/ coach in the last 20 years was allowed to speak to people like Clive and beyond .
We plainly know there was and has been for decades , so why are ‘QPR’ so afraid of this coach in particular.
He’s polite, erudite , calm and thoughtful from what we can gather .
Has his faults as a coach that’s for sure but what is it that we cannot hear that he can’t post on his own social media that can’t be misinterpreted?
He towed the party line up until very recently.
But we are and have been petrified he will be ‘misinterpreted’ ever since Nourry took both roles.
Players have been put up for things like podcasts , doing it from their own home ….was there a club advisor behind Paul Nardi’s couch in case he said something we all ‘misinterpreted’?
Give over [Post edited 8 Apr 18:09]
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"so why are ‘QPR’ so afraid of this coach in particular."
I'm not sure they are especially worried about Marti.
They said at the fan forum last season that they had been too open in the past and wouldn't be that open in future.
At that time Ainsworth was still manager.
So I don't think this is just about gagging Marti. I think they would be doing it regardless of who the manager is and probably intend to keep doing it after Marti moves on.
If you want to be really cynical then bringing in a manager (and players) from overseas with no media connections in this country is one way of enforcing radio silence.
I doubt they would have kept Warnock or Redknapp gagged if they were still here.
I don't know what they think they gain from it. Smacks of insecurity in my book. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:29 - Apr 8 with 1016 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:08 - Apr 8 by mart_Goblin |
But that suggests that there WASN’T loads of stuff going on behind the scenes when every other manager/ coach in the last 20 years was allowed to speak to people like Clive and beyond .
We plainly know there was and has been for decades , so why are ‘QPR’ so afraid of this coach in particular.
He’s polite, erudite , calm and thoughtful from what we can gather .
Has his faults as a coach that’s for sure but what is it that we cannot hear that he can’t post on his own social media that can’t be misinterpreted?
He towed the party line up until very recently.
But we are and have been petrified he will be ‘misinterpreted’ ever since Nourry took both roles.
Players have been put up for things like podcasts , doing it from their own home ….was there a club advisor behind Paul Nardi’s couch in case he said something we all ‘misinterpreted’?
Give over [Post edited 8 Apr 18:09]
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It's not 1994 anymore but 2025.
You're not going to get any manager allowed to speak without a PR advisor close at hand nowadays. The fact that previous managers - under completely different reigns - didn't is irrelevant though may suggest how out of touch they were.
You'd be niave to not realise that there are significant issues at the club but that has nothing to do with potentially being misinterpreted. A misinterpreted comment may be about a player's injury, transfer targets or even about off field community activities.
No business in 2025 is going to.allow reputational damage occur through poor interviews carried out by senior management without PR.
Also, the club have a right only to speak to established news outlets. As disappointed as those affected by that are that's the rules now. Future regimes may change that but it is unlikely.
Also, nobody is actually asking if Marti prefers no engagement. That's the question to ask...
It's 2025, things are done differently now 👍 [Post edited 8 Apr 18:33]
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| We need a Director of Football on 18:30 - Apr 8 with 1013 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Quality conversation. On so many topics. SO many topics!
I'm up the walls these days (whatever that means), so not posting much, but I've enjoyed dipping in and out of this thread.
(Welcome Steve, by the way, by the sounds of your LSA trips, I'm sure we've done many miles together).
I don't think we should be afraid of our crew of fans having differing opinions. As long as we've all followed the R's it's always been that way. We're going to have differing views on Nourry and Cifuentes, as we did on Thompson, Gregory, Hateley...ok, maybe not on Hateley. Sorry!
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| We need a Director of Football on 18:32 - Apr 8 with 1004 views | Northernr |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:29 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
It's not 1994 anymore but 2025.
You're not going to get any manager allowed to speak without a PR advisor close at hand nowadays. The fact that previous managers - under completely different reigns - didn't is irrelevant though may suggest how out of touch they were.
You'd be niave to not realise that there are significant issues at the club but that has nothing to do with potentially being misinterpreted. A misinterpreted comment may be about a player's injury, transfer targets or even about off field community activities.
No business in 2025 is going to.allow reputational damage occur through poor interviews carried out by senior management without PR.
Also, the club have a right only to speak to established news outlets. As disappointed as those affected by that are that's the rules now. Future regimes may change that but it is unlikely.
Also, nobody is actually asking if Marti prefers no engagement. That's the question to ask...
It's 2025, things are done differently now 👍 [Post edited 8 Apr 18:33]
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I’ve asked. |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:36 - Apr 8 with 990 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:32 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
I’ve asked. |
And there's no chance of him or whoever you asked giving the answer they wanted you to hear knowing it would be passed on to fans?
Trust no one at the moment... | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:40 - Apr 8 with 981 views | Northernr |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:36 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
And there's no chance of him or whoever you asked giving the answer they wanted you to hear knowing it would be passed on to fans?
Trust no one at the moment... |
Well it wasn’t the answer I wanted to hear because it was “no”.
You’re preaching the choir.
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| We need a Director of Football on 18:43 - Apr 8 with 964 views | mart_Goblin |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:40 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Well it wasn’t the answer I wanted to hear because it was “no”.
You’re preaching the choir.
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Not sure this is the answer ‘Steve’ wants hear | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:48 - Apr 8 with 944 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:40 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Well it wasn’t the answer I wanted to hear because it was “no”.
You’re preaching the choir.
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So, just for clarity, you're referring to you asking the club for an interview with Marti rather than, as I asked, if someone has actually asked Marti if he likes public engagement?
Club putting restrictions in place isn't the same as Marti not liking/wanting public engagements and both could be in place...
I personally think you'll be granted an interview with the QPR manager at the back of July but not without other publications and websites being present and with a strict provide questions in advance. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:54 - Apr 8 with 917 views | Northernr |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:48 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
So, just for clarity, you're referring to you asking the club for an interview with Marti rather than, as I asked, if someone has actually asked Marti if he likes public engagement?
Club putting restrictions in place isn't the same as Marti not liking/wanting public engagements and both could be in place...
I personally think you'll be granted an interview with the QPR manager at the back of July but not without other publications and websites being present and with a strict provide questions in advance. |
Which we wouldn’t agree to and nor should anybody. No fan should be in favour of that sort of controlled messaging.
I wouldn’t agree to that with the CEO of fcking Disney.
I’m on the tube, I’ll post in more detail later. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:22 - Apr 8 with 829 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:54 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Which we wouldn’t agree to and nor should anybody. No fan should be in favour of that sort of controlled messaging.
I wouldn’t agree to that with the CEO of fcking Disney.
I’m on the tube, I’ll post in more detail later. |
Maybe a new manager, whenever we get one, might be more vocal about the need to engage directly with fan groups and force the issue.
I can't see things changing too much until then but you never know. [Post edited 8 Apr 19:23]
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| We need a Director of Football on 19:25 - Apr 8 with 817 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:48 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
So, just for clarity, you're referring to you asking the club for an interview with Marti rather than, as I asked, if someone has actually asked Marti if he likes public engagement?
Club putting restrictions in place isn't the same as Marti not liking/wanting public engagements and both could be in place...
I personally think you'll be granted an interview with the QPR manager at the back of July but not without other publications and websites being present and with a strict provide questions in advance. |
Steve, if you believe that someone as ambitious, image conscious (and quite frankly, fond of talking about himself) as Cifuentes has been rejecting the chance to have his say - and discuss some things off the record - with someone like North i would offer you a lovely bridge in London. One female owner, FSH.
For all Cifuentes’ positives, he’s has never encountered a microphone he wouldn’t utilise.
Now your point that in 2025, every interview should have an organisation PR person onsite to step in is fully valid, but even that is not is not allowed here.
And Nourry is certainly not the first paranoid chief the club has had - everyone else though has seen the value in keeping a high profile fan/writer on side, rather than blacklisting them and having the talk of what you’re so worried about fester. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:32 - Apr 8 with 802 views | GaryHaddock |
I don’t know if it counts as public engagement, but the main reason we know about Marti is because he participated in a 2 hour podcast when he was at Hammerby.
Also this one, coincidentally one month before Nourry arrived. He hasn’t done one since I believe
https://open.spotify.com/episode/48j2aOkVpX4pKiE5KgAcl9 [Post edited 8 Apr 19:37]
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| We need a Director of Football on 19:45 - Apr 8 with 773 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:32 - Apr 8 by GaryHaddock |
I don’t know if it counts as public engagement, but the main reason we know about Marti is because he participated in a 2 hour podcast when he was at Hammerby.
Also this one, coincidentally one month before Nourry arrived. He hasn’t done one since I believe
https://open.spotify.com/episode/48j2aOkVpX4pKiE5KgAcl9 [Post edited 8 Apr 19:37]
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Nourry was involved with the club significantly before Marti was manager and had the right ears listening to him as soon as he arrived at the club.
January 2024 was an official passing of the baton but what he said carried weight way before that date.
Maybe Marti didn't enjoy the Podcast experience and/or the prospect of fan engagement at a club with a fanbase significantly larger than anywhere else he has managed at before? Maybe he finds the whole thing overwhelming?
Which kind of ties in with what I said in the post Cardiff thread, maybe Marti is feeling out of his depth at a club as big as ours? [Post edited 8 Apr 19:48]
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| We need a Director of Football on 19:48 - Apr 8 with 766 views | GaryHaddock |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:45 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Nourry was involved with the club significantly before Marti was manager and had the right ears listening to him as soon as he arrived at the club.
January 2024 was an official passing of the baton but what he said carried weight way before that date.
Maybe Marti didn't enjoy the Podcast experience and/or the prospect of fan engagement at a club with a fanbase significantly larger than anywhere else he has managed at before? Maybe he finds the whole thing overwhelming?
Which kind of ties in with what I said in the post Cardiff thread, maybe Marti is feeling out of his depth at a club as big as ours? [Post edited 8 Apr 19:48]
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Just so I’m clear…
- Nourry was secretly in charge before his ‘official’ appointment
- Marti finds podcasts overwhelming (except for the one ones he’s done) | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:53 - Apr 8 with 745 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:45 - Apr 8 by SteveW6 |
Nourry was involved with the club significantly before Marti was manager and had the right ears listening to him as soon as he arrived at the club.
January 2024 was an official passing of the baton but what he said carried weight way before that date.
Maybe Marti didn't enjoy the Podcast experience and/or the prospect of fan engagement at a club with a fanbase significantly larger than anywhere else he has managed at before? Maybe he finds the whole thing overwhelming?
Which kind of ties in with what I said in the post Cardiff thread, maybe Marti is feeling out of his depth at a club as big as ours? [Post edited 8 Apr 19:48]
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Hammarby average over 25k every week and have a long history of European football.
The idea that Cifuentes is now overwhelmed by managing the behemoth that is QPR and so now desperately hiding from North is so silly even Christian wouldn’t try and pass it off. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:54 - Apr 8 with 735 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 19:48 - Apr 8 by GaryHaddock |
Just so I’m clear…
- Nourry was secretly in charge before his ‘official’ appointment
- Marti finds podcasts overwhelming (except for the one ones he’s done) |
Nourry had a lot of power before January 2024.
Marti may find podcasts and public engagement at a club of our size overwhelming. He wouldn't the first manager to take on more than he can handle at a particular stage of his career. | | | |
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