| Would you have Ralph back? 11:08 - May 5 with 2438 views | grumpy |
I see he has left Wolfsburg. |  | | |  |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 11:59 - May 5 with 2355 views | DorsetIan |
No chance.
Getting rid was not the problem. It was the moronic decisions around a replacement, which I suspect are going to continue until Solak slings his hook. |  |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 12:31 - May 5 with 2304 views | kingolaf |
No. One-trick pony. | | | |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 13:56 - May 5 with 2170 views | MytchettSaint |
As crap as it’s been, we haven’t lost 9-0 since he left. No thanks. |  |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 15:28 - May 5 with 2066 views | Ron11 |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 13:56 - May 5 by MytchettSaint |
As crap as it’s been, we haven’t lost 9-0 since he left. No thanks. |
9-0 twice | | | |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 15:46 - May 5 with 2039 views | saintmark1976 |
Why would we want him back ?
Our current problems began when, after winning one game out of the last fourteen during his last full season and narrowly avoiding relegation,the Clubs owners allowed him to start the next season in charge again.
Utter folly on the Owners part, but given what’s followed who’s in the least bit surprised ? | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 16:58 - May 5 with 1909 views | UTS1885 |
No way, he was useless and no surprise he’s been sacked again. |  | | |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 18:10 - May 5 with 1811 views | kingslandstand1 |
9 defeats in 11 or something. Must be that figure 9 |  | | |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 20:01 - May 5 with 1671 views | grumpy |
One thing for sure is whoever gets the job has a massive task on his hands. | | | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 00:27 - May 6 with 1441 views | TimSaint |
Ralph was sacked at the weekend, for no wins in 8 games - the last being a 4-0 away drubbing. We were on a similar run with him in charge at Saints. 1 win in 12 at the end of his last full season.
We are currently on 11 without a win, or 12 if you include the FA Cup. |  |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:00 - May 6 with 1215 views | SaintNick |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 00:27 - May 6 by TimSaint |
Ralph was sacked at the weekend, for no wins in 8 games - the last being a 4-0 away drubbing. We were on a similar run with him in charge at Saints. 1 win in 12 at the end of his last full season.
We are currently on 11 without a win, or 12 if you include the FA Cup. |
I think most on here have been unfair on Ralph, whether we want him back or not, he kept Saints in the Premier League whilst working under difficult conditions due to the owner not being able to put money into the club.
Everyone harks on about the 9-0 defeats, they are nothing other than stats now, Lawrie McMenemy had quite a few debacles involving 7 goal routs, yet he is rightly revered as a great manager at this club.
Most on here just look at the scoreline and not the backdrop of the scoreline, at United we were down to 10 men after barely a minute and were only 6-0 down going into the last 6 minutes or so, before our friend Mike Dean gave a penalty that never was and sent off Jan Bednarek and down to 9 men we conceded 3 late goals including said penalty.
Against Leicester Ryan Bertrand was sent off after only 10 minutes in the build up to Leicesters first goal and we collapsed, again two late goals including another penalty.
I am not sure that Ralph coming back is the answer, a big factor being it seems that if most on here are indicative of the fanbase it would be devisive to bring him back |  |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:23 - May 6 with 1191 views | PatfromPoole |
Ralph is building up quite the retirement fund with these settlement payments. |  |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 11:06 - May 6 with 1103 views | MytchettSaint |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:00 - May 6 by SaintNick |
I think most on here have been unfair on Ralph, whether we want him back or not, he kept Saints in the Premier League whilst working under difficult conditions due to the owner not being able to put money into the club.
Everyone harks on about the 9-0 defeats, they are nothing other than stats now, Lawrie McMenemy had quite a few debacles involving 7 goal routs, yet he is rightly revered as a great manager at this club.
Most on here just look at the scoreline and not the backdrop of the scoreline, at United we were down to 10 men after barely a minute and were only 6-0 down going into the last 6 minutes or so, before our friend Mike Dean gave a penalty that never was and sent off Jan Bednarek and down to 9 men we conceded 3 late goals including said penalty.
Against Leicester Ryan Bertrand was sent off after only 10 minutes in the build up to Leicesters first goal and we collapsed, again two late goals including another penalty.
I am not sure that Ralph coming back is the answer, a big factor being it seems that if most on here are indicative of the fanbase it would be devisive to bring him back |
The United 9-0 is not indicative of him. I understand the circumstances behind that. That cock Mike Dean, the idiot junkewitz getting a deserved straight red in the opening minutes.
The Leicester one he has to own I’m afraid. Other teams get players sent off and then keep it tight in the hope of still being in the game with 10 minutes left when you can have a go at trying to salvage something. That displayed a lack of tactical nous.
Shortly after that United game we played Newcastle away. They had 2 players sent off and still managed to beat us. Ralph did ok but was a busted flush at the end of his time here.
Don’t get me wrong, if I thought he could turn it round here I’d give him a chance. The fact he’s had a similar run in Germany to the ones he used to have here (feast or famine) results wise tells me he probably hasn’t evolved as a coach/manager | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 12:28 - May 6 with 1020 views | Flamingbankers |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:00 - May 6 by SaintNick |
I think most on here have been unfair on Ralph, whether we want him back or not, he kept Saints in the Premier League whilst working under difficult conditions due to the owner not being able to put money into the club.
Everyone harks on about the 9-0 defeats, they are nothing other than stats now, Lawrie McMenemy had quite a few debacles involving 7 goal routs, yet he is rightly revered as a great manager at this club.
Most on here just look at the scoreline and not the backdrop of the scoreline, at United we were down to 10 men after barely a minute and were only 6-0 down going into the last 6 minutes or so, before our friend Mike Dean gave a penalty that never was and sent off Jan Bednarek and down to 9 men we conceded 3 late goals including said penalty.
Against Leicester Ryan Bertrand was sent off after only 10 minutes in the build up to Leicesters first goal and we collapsed, again two late goals including another penalty.
I am not sure that Ralph coming back is the answer, a big factor being it seems that if most on here are indicative of the fanbase it would be devisive to bring him back |
I think the reactions of Ralph show arrogance and delusion. As a Premier League manager you assess a critical situation and just shut up shop - damage limitation. Ralph just kept pushing forwards and in the Premier you are going to get pummeled doing that. Secondly, McMenemy never showed this arrogant and reckless behaviour and Lawrie barely had the resources that Hassenhutl had. | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 13:19 - May 6 with 940 views | TimSaint |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:00 - May 6 by SaintNick |
I think most on here have been unfair on Ralph, whether we want him back or not, he kept Saints in the Premier League whilst working under difficult conditions due to the owner not being able to put money into the club.
Everyone harks on about the 9-0 defeats, they are nothing other than stats now, Lawrie McMenemy had quite a few debacles involving 7 goal routs, yet he is rightly revered as a great manager at this club.
Most on here just look at the scoreline and not the backdrop of the scoreline, at United we were down to 10 men after barely a minute and were only 6-0 down going into the last 6 minutes or so, before our friend Mike Dean gave a penalty that never was and sent off Jan Bednarek and down to 9 men we conceded 3 late goals including said penalty.
Against Leicester Ryan Bertrand was sent off after only 10 minutes in the build up to Leicesters first goal and we collapsed, again two late goals including another penalty.
I am not sure that Ralph coming back is the answer, a big factor being it seems that if most on here are indicative of the fanbase it would be devisive to bring him back |
I'm fully aware of the circumstances of both 9-0 defeats and yes the red cards were obviously massive influences on the games. They were freak results, but at least we didn't concede 10 at home to Leicester in the top flight - like our Skate Mates did and without any red card involvement !!
Ralph coming back is definitely not the answer.
He is fully accountable for the nose dive we had in that last 12 games in season 21-22. You say he kept us in the Prem, but to be honest, we were pretty much safe before those 12 games. The season changed with our 4-0 away defeat to Villa and it seems that he lost the dressing room after that game. A whole host of awful results followed, including a 6-0 home defeat to Chelsea and embarrassing defeats 3-0 at Brentford and 4-1 at Leicester. I know we had limited striking options with injuries etc, but his failure to motivate the team in that run-in, was ultimately the start of his decline. He then famously took it to the next level by throwing a young on loan striker under the bus, openly blaming him for our lack of goals. We all know what happened at the start of the next season and I was surprised he lasted as long as 14 games. | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 15:26 - May 6 with 848 views | arfurdent |
Ralph who? |  |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 18:28 - May 6 with 744 views | DorsetIan |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:00 - May 6 by SaintNick |
I think most on here have been unfair on Ralph, whether we want him back or not, he kept Saints in the Premier League whilst working under difficult conditions due to the owner not being able to put money into the club.
Everyone harks on about the 9-0 defeats, they are nothing other than stats now, Lawrie McMenemy had quite a few debacles involving 7 goal routs, yet he is rightly revered as a great manager at this club.
Most on here just look at the scoreline and not the backdrop of the scoreline, at United we were down to 10 men after barely a minute and were only 6-0 down going into the last 6 minutes or so, before our friend Mike Dean gave a penalty that never was and sent off Jan Bednarek and down to 9 men we conceded 3 late goals including said penalty.
Against Leicester Ryan Bertrand was sent off after only 10 minutes in the build up to Leicesters first goal and we collapsed, again two late goals including another penalty.
I am not sure that Ralph coming back is the answer, a big factor being it seems that if most on here are indicative of the fanbase it would be devisive to bring him back |
I think this forum is pretty fair towards Ralph. Certainly doesn’t get the same level of vitriol as towards Jones and Juruc.
We recognise that he delivered some good results and performances; however, at the end he was rubbish and he should have gone sooner.
You complained that Gao got unfair stick too, but the rot started under his ownership and he sold to the current clowns who have truly wrecked things.
You are not sure that Ralph coming back is the answer, but only because it might be divisive!?! In other words if only the fan base could see things as clearly and sensibly as you, Ralph might be a good idea.
Not sure what planet you are on. | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 22:39 - May 6 with 624 views | SaintNick |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 12:28 - May 6 by Flamingbankers |
I think the reactions of Ralph show arrogance and delusion. As a Premier League manager you assess a critical situation and just shut up shop - damage limitation. Ralph just kept pushing forwards and in the Premier you are going to get pummeled doing that. Secondly, McMenemy never showed this arrogant and reckless behaviour and Lawrie barely had the resources that Hassenhutl had. |
For most of his time as manager, McMenemy had as much arrogance and inability to set up teams that could defend.
Look at the team who lost 7-1 to second division Watford in the league cup after winning the first leg 4-0.
Channon, Charlie George, Steve Williams, Dave Watson, Chris Nicholl, full of internationals and flare players and new full back Mike McCartney, we couldnt defend to save our lives. | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 23:07 - May 6 with 600 views | MytchettSaint |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 22:39 - May 6 by SaintNick |
For most of his time as manager, McMenemy had as much arrogance and inability to set up teams that could defend.
Look at the team who lost 7-1 to second division Watford in the league cup after winning the first leg 4-0.
Channon, Charlie George, Steve Williams, Dave Watson, Chris Nicholl, full of internationals and flare players and new full back Mike McCartney, we couldnt defend to save our lives. |
The trouble is Nick, managers (and teams) are often remembered for their legacies.
Lawrie won us the cup and saw us finish runners up in the top flight. When I think of him, those are my default memories of the guy.
When we talk about Ralph we don’t automatically think, he got a tune out of the squad and topped the table with us briefly, we nearly, to a person think 9-0, or crying against Liverpool. | |
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| Would you have Ralph back? on 09:43 - May 7 with 421 views | blubberboy |
No. Things always seem better looking back, but the last year Ralf was in charge was truly awful. Apart from a Boxing Day win at West Ham and a slightly freaky midweek victory at Spurs I can barely remember us winning any points at all. What I do remember is strange team selections, baffling substitutions, and a bizarre obsession with choosing Elyounoussi over Walcott (who was clearly a class above anyone else in the squad). Ralf should have gone at the end of the season after the Brentford debacle.
All that said he would probably have done better than any of the other managers we have had this season. As others have pointed out it wasn't losing Ralf, it was the people we appointed to replace him that were the problem. | | | |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 11:53 - May 7 with 357 views | Butty101 |
| Would you have Ralph back? on 22:39 - May 6 by SaintNick |
For most of his time as manager, McMenemy had as much arrogance and inability to set up teams that could defend.
Look at the team who lost 7-1 to second division Watford in the league cup after winning the first leg 4-0.
Channon, Charlie George, Steve Williams, Dave Watson, Chris Nicholl, full of internationals and flare players and new full back Mike McCartney, we couldnt defend to save our lives. |
Nick you remind me of comical Ali , with your everything is ok message. |  |
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