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Starmer reversing 10:40 - May 6 with 1278 viewsraynor94

Talk that Wfa is going to be revisited and also the employers ni contributions.

Last weeks elections were a real wake up call for Labour, if these things go ahead where does that leave Rachel

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Starmer reversing on 10:43 - May 6 with 1151 viewsWhiterockin

Where she belongs in the bin. The woman is totally out of her depth.
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Starmer reversing on 15:20 - May 6 with 1060 viewsBoundy

Starmer reversing on 10:43 - May 6 by Whiterockin

Where she belongs in the bin. The woman is totally out of her depth.


Back in the call centre where she belongs even tt is above her capabilities,a fraud found out and Tess got stick , jeez .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Starmer reversing on 17:12 - May 6 with 1024 viewsAnotherJohn

The UK/India trade deal seems to involve a 3 year suspension of NI for Indians coming to work in the UK. Thus may be a bit tricky to sell to the home population. Not sure whether the reciprocal arrangement has the same value for UK expats.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-slammed-over-new-india-uk-trade-dea
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Starmer reversing on 17:38 - May 6 with 993 viewsReslovenSwan1

Starmer reversing on 17:12 - May 6 by AnotherJohn

The UK/India trade deal seems to involve a 3 year suspension of NI for Indians coming to work in the UK. Thus may be a bit tricky to sell to the home population. Not sure whether the reciprocal arrangement has the same value for UK expats.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-slammed-over-new-india-uk-trade-dea


We need them now after we sent all the young Europeans back in 2016..

The number of Indians around is becoming very noticeable. Every garage and late night store.

Wise sage since Toshack era
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Starmer reversing on 17:41 - May 6 with 994 viewsGwyn737

Starmer reversing on 17:12 - May 6 by AnotherJohn

The UK/India trade deal seems to involve a 3 year suspension of NI for Indians coming to work in the UK. Thus may be a bit tricky to sell to the home population. Not sure whether the reciprocal arrangement has the same value for UK expats.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-slammed-over-new-india-uk-trade-dea


It would be easier to sell if the reporting was more balanced like this one:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-india-trade-deal-starmer-modi-

The Express article does not present a single positive from the biggest post Brexit trade deal so far. Not one.
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Starmer reversing on 17:44 - May 6 with 996 viewsAnotherJohn

Starmer reversing on 17:38 - May 6 by ReslovenSwan1

We need them now after we sent all the young Europeans back in 2016..

The number of Indians around is becoming very noticeable. Every garage and late night store.


Personally, I wonder where the limits of "need" should be drawn. Do we really need services like Deliveroo or late night stores opening if it leads to transformational change for the worse in our quality of life and culture?
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Starmer reversing on 18:55 - May 6 with 969 viewsSullutaCreturned

Starmer reversing on 17:41 - May 6 by Gwyn737

It would be easier to sell if the reporting was more balanced like this one:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-india-trade-deal-starmer-modi-

The Express article does not present a single positive from the biggest post Brexit trade deal so far. Not one.
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Well it is the Express! It makes the Daily Mail look sensible.

Didn't Starner say there was no backtracking on WFA?

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-winter-fuel-allowance-payment-starmer-streeting-b2745455.html
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Starmer reversing on 19:15 - May 6 with 959 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Starmer reversing on 17:12 - May 6 by AnotherJohn

The UK/India trade deal seems to involve a 3 year suspension of NI for Indians coming to work in the UK. Thus may be a bit tricky to sell to the home population. Not sure whether the reciprocal arrangement has the same value for UK expats.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-slammed-over-new-india-uk-trade-dea


Stop the non dom tax breaks ..........oh wait a minute!

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Starmer reversing on 20:32 - May 6 with 928 viewsmax936

Reverse out of the door of No10 Downing St he needs to and Reeves out of No11.

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Starmer reversing on 21:01 - May 6 with 883 viewsDr_Winston

I spent the last election cycle expecting the Tories to lose because they deserved to. I did not expect their replacements to be significantly worse.

The general standard of our elected representatives is in the toilet, and the only thing I can think of that might improve matters is to double, perhaps even triple MP's pay, but reduce their numbers by half.

Doubling their pay might attract the kind of individual actually capable of doing the job (most people of the type can earn far more elsewhere), reducing their numbers by half might concentrate the quality.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Starmer reversing on 21:02 - May 6 with 858 viewstrampie

Starmer and Reeves are Tories, they also back the Israeli genocide in Gaza by their actions/inactions.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Starmer reversing on 21:23 - May 6 with 855 viewsBoundy

Starmer reversing on 17:12 - May 6 by AnotherJohn

The UK/India trade deal seems to involve a 3 year suspension of NI for Indians coming to work in the UK. Thus may be a bit tricky to sell to the home population. Not sure whether the reciprocal arrangement has the same value for UK expats.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-slammed-over-new-india-uk-trade-dea


I read that as part of the deal no Indian working in the UK would be subject to NI contributions.Not being able to open the link I don't know if that was mentioned in the article.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Starmer reversing on 22:15 - May 6 with 816 viewsmajorraglan

Starmer reversing on 17:41 - May 6 by Gwyn737

It would be easier to sell if the reporting was more balanced like this one:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-india-trade-deal-starmer-modi-

The Express article does not present a single positive from the biggest post Brexit trade deal so far. Not one.
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There’s one article in the Telegraph criticising the deal and then a second talking in positive terms.

Mental
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Starmer reversing on 08:18 - May 7 with 721 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Starmer reversing on 22:15 - May 6 by majorraglan

There’s one article in the Telegraph criticising the deal and then a second talking in positive terms.

Mental


News media is almost exclusively opinion these days, many people don't seem to realise they are getting a particular view on matters.

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Starmer reversing on 17:11 - May 7 with 610 viewsGwyn737

Starmer reversing on 08:18 - May 7 by JACKMANANDBOY

News media is almost exclusively opinion these days, many people don't seem to realise they are getting a particular view on matters.


And it’s now based on negativity.

We’ve now got the details and know what we’re talking about:

- Indian companies can second workers temporarily to the uk and not pay NI for that period to prevent double taxation
- this kind of agreement we already have with around 50 countries
- the trade agreement will generate billions of pounds for our economy
- it’s the biggest agreement since Brexit
- people will see costs fall on some significant products
- British businesses will benefit from increased imports

Yet this has morphed into ‘Indians are taking our jobs’
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Starmer reversing on 17:13 - May 7 with 610 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Starmer reversing on 17:11 - May 7 by Gwyn737

And it’s now based on negativity.

We’ve now got the details and know what we’re talking about:

- Indian companies can second workers temporarily to the uk and not pay NI for that period to prevent double taxation
- this kind of agreement we already have with around 50 countries
- the trade agreement will generate billions of pounds for our economy
- it’s the biggest agreement since Brexit
- people will see costs fall on some significant products
- British businesses will benefit from increased imports

Yet this has morphed into ‘Indians are taking our jobs’


The psychologists say that negatively gets more of our attention, so that is why we see so much, it pays.

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Starmer reversing on 17:34 - May 7 with 593 viewsGwyn737

Starmer reversing on 17:13 - May 7 by JACKMANANDBOY

The psychologists say that negatively gets more of our attention, so that is why we see so much, it pays.


I’ve read that too.

Twitter being prime example. It was a cesspit before Musk took over. I don’t have the words for it now.
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Starmer reversing on 17:40 - May 7 with 576 viewsKilkennyjack

Starmer reversing on 21:02 - May 6 by trampie

Starmer and Reeves are Tories, they also back the Israeli genocide in Gaza by their actions/inactions.


You might well be correct, i mean what else explains it ?

Beware of the Risen People

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Starmer reversing on 18:06 - May 7 with 547 viewsjohnlangy

Starmer reversing on 17:11 - May 7 by Gwyn737

And it’s now based on negativity.

We’ve now got the details and know what we’re talking about:

- Indian companies can second workers temporarily to the uk and not pay NI for that period to prevent double taxation
- this kind of agreement we already have with around 50 countries
- the trade agreement will generate billions of pounds for our economy
- it’s the biggest agreement since Brexit
- people will see costs fall on some significant products
- British businesses will benefit from increased imports

Yet this has morphed into ‘Indians are taking our jobs’


Well done Gwyn. You saved me posting something similar.

I fully expected the brexiteers on here to jump on this arguing about it being a brexit benefit. What a strange world we are living in.
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Starmer reversing on 20:42 - May 7 with 484 viewsoldtownjack

Starmer reversing on 18:06 - May 7 by johnlangy

Well done Gwyn. You saved me posting something similar.

I fully expected the brexiteers on here to jump on this arguing about it being a brexit benefit. What a strange world we are living in.


This trade deal is our biggest since Brexit and represents only 0.1% of our GDP. All trades deals added together since Brexit add up to 0.5%. Still a long way to go to make up for the loss 4% incurred. Typical of Farage to frame it as 'Indians taking British jobs'. Never turned up to meetings to represent British fisherman in Europe, has barely set foot in Clacton where he is supposed to reprsent his constituency. The guy is a grifter who continues to spout his nonsense and people continue to fall for it.

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Starmer reversing on 21:07 - May 7 with 451 viewsScotia

Starmer reversing on 17:11 - May 7 by Gwyn737

And it’s now based on negativity.

We’ve now got the details and know what we’re talking about:

- Indian companies can second workers temporarily to the uk and not pay NI for that period to prevent double taxation
- this kind of agreement we already have with around 50 countries
- the trade agreement will generate billions of pounds for our economy
- it’s the biggest agreement since Brexit
- people will see costs fall on some significant products
- British businesses will benefit from increased imports

Yet this has morphed into ‘Indians are taking our jobs’


They also have to pay the NHS surcharge.
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Starmer reversing on 21:09 - May 7 with 447 viewsGwyn737

Starmer reversing on 21:07 - May 7 by Scotia

They also have to pay the NHS surcharge.


Yep. Also the cost to move a worker over means they probably won’t be cheaper to employ anyway.

And it’s the lies that slow everything down.

It’s hard to have a discussion when you have waste time establishing the facts first.
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Starmer reversing on 21:31 - May 7 with 421 viewsmajorraglan

Starmer reversing on 17:44 - May 6 by AnotherJohn

Personally, I wonder where the limits of "need" should be drawn. Do we really need services like Deliveroo or late night stores opening if it leads to transformational change for the worse in our quality of life and culture?


In my opinion, the line should be drawn at nurses, doctors, dentists, radiologists etc in the NHS and staff for care homes (the latter having a minimum income requirement) etc because they are jobs that have proved consistently hard to fill.

We should be taking steps to make sure anyone working for Deliveroo or similar is qualified to work in the U.K. - if they aren’t then it’s no work whatsoever, if they are working for cash in the “black economy” then the companies whose wears they deliver get fined. If there’s no demand they’ll look elsewhere.
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Starmer reversing on 22:19 - May 7 with 389 viewsScotia

Starmer reversing on 21:31 - May 7 by majorraglan

In my opinion, the line should be drawn at nurses, doctors, dentists, radiologists etc in the NHS and staff for care homes (the latter having a minimum income requirement) etc because they are jobs that have proved consistently hard to fill.

We should be taking steps to make sure anyone working for Deliveroo or similar is qualified to work in the U.K. - if they aren’t then it’s no work whatsoever, if they are working for cash in the “black economy” then the companies whose wears they deliver get fined. If there’s no demand they’ll look elsewhere.


At present anyone with access to a deliveroo app or similar can work. Nobody has any idea who's actually delivering the food. It's easy to exploit.

It's similar with Uber taxis, how many people actually check the driver is the actual one pictured on the app?

Technically they're self employed so the company aren't liable. These are the grey areas that need to be sorted.
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Starmer reversing on 16:15 - May 8 with 230 viewsSullutaCreturned

Starmer reversing on 18:06 - May 7 by johnlangy

Well done Gwyn. You saved me posting something similar.

I fully expected the brexiteers on here to jump on this arguing about it being a brexit benefit. What a strange world we are living in.


Well the ability to negotiate our own trade deals is a brexit benefit, it's just a shame that the government that "delivered brexit" was so utterly useless and filled with chancers that getting any benefit from brexit will take a lot longer than it should have.

These deals are starting to add up and the India deal is starting of low but hopefully will yield bigger benefits in the years to come.

It seems to be an inadvertent favour from Trump, he has pissed off so many countries they are also looking to help each other out now, free tarde just to piss Trump off.

There is another brexit benefit, one for the school leavers, ther is a shortage of trades and so lots of room for those willing to work hard. My son has already signed up to college to do a course in Vehicle body repair where, with 5 years eperience you can earn 45-55k per year and even as an apprentice you can earn over 30k.
People can call breit a disaster but with every disaster there come opportunities.
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