| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 06:26 - Jun 2 with 969 views | Whiterockin |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 06:22 - Jun 2 by trampie |
Im not the one digging.
I blame the parents, if I had made a mistake I would admit it, because I was brought up correctly, the amount of times online where people get pointed out a statement of fact so they know they have made an error and yet they won't admit it is very disappointing .
Scotia is now tained, prepared to say untruths even when it's undeniable, there is still time for him but is he man enough, has he been brought up to do the decent correct thing. |
It's a long way down there. |  | |  |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 06:28 - Jun 2 with 960 views | trampie |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 06:26 - Jun 2 by Whiterockin |
It's a long way down there. |
Yes indeed. |  |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:15 - Jun 2 with 914 views | trampie |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 06:25 - Jun 2 by Scotia |
You posted a link saying who the organisation were and said, "They had advertised online what their meeting was about" that advertisement was indicating direct action in support of Gaza.
You're being quite pathetic to be honest. |
I never said it was a pro Palestine meeting, the tweet doesn't say it is a pro Palestine meeting, the link doesn't say it is a pro Palestine meeting, you need to admit to your mistake. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:26 - Jun 2 with 896 views | trampie |
Since Scotia is not going to own his mistake, back to another story involving the Quakers reported in the Morning Star :-
Quakers call Israeli government action in Gaza a genocide, when will other faiths do the same ?, I notice lots of people online saying yet again the Quakers are on the right side of history. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:39 - Jun 2 with 855 views | trampie |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 19:52 - Jun 1 by hobo |
Honestly never heard of the term at all, so it may as well be! |
The Quaker Meeting House in Swansea dates back to 1858, its not far from the Kingsway, St Helens Road, the old Vetch field, Sandfields etc so very central.
It's grade 2 listed building, prehaps the luftwaffe never hit it, since lots of Swansea was flattened. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:48 - Jun 2 with 829 views | Scotia |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:15 - Jun 2 by trampie |
I never said it was a pro Palestine meeting, the tweet doesn't say it is a pro Palestine meeting, the link doesn't say it is a pro Palestine meeting, you need to admit to your mistake. |
The article says:-
"when six young women gathered in central London to discuss the climate crisis and the war in Gaza"
It names the organisation, youth demand, whose reason to exist is to engage in resistance to stop the UK selling arms to Israel through civil resistance.
You then went on to say "you are saying Pro Palestine, they are not" at about 11 ish last night. They clearly are.
We don't know what intelligence the police had, but if possible, anybody who is planning "civil resistance" along the line of Just Stop Oil (their affiliate organsisation) should be stopped. It seems pretty sensible to me.
https://youthdemand.org/take-action/
Actually it seems completely justified and appropriate. [Post edited 2 Jun 8:50]
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 08:26 - Jun 2 with 803 views | trampie |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:48 - Jun 2 by Scotia |
The article says:-
"when six young women gathered in central London to discuss the climate crisis and the war in Gaza"
It names the organisation, youth demand, whose reason to exist is to engage in resistance to stop the UK selling arms to Israel through civil resistance.
You then went on to say "you are saying Pro Palestine, they are not" at about 11 ish last night. They clearly are.
We don't know what intelligence the police had, but if possible, anybody who is planning "civil resistance" along the line of Just Stop Oil (their affiliate organsisation) should be stopped. It seems pretty sensible to me.
https://youthdemand.org/take-action/
Actually it seems completely justified and appropriate. [Post edited 2 Jun 8:50]
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In never said they were or were not pro Palestine, you said that I said they were pro Palestine you have said an untruth, whether they are pro Palestine or not is neither here nor there as I did not say it and you said I did say it, which is not the case and you will not admit to your mistake. [Post edited 2 Jun 8:55]
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 08:49 - Jun 2 with 777 views | Scotia |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 23:03 - Jun 1 by trampie |
You are saying Pro Palestine, they are not and I am not, now will you admit your mistake ? |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 08:51 - Jun 2 with 768 views | trampie |
As I thought. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 09:36 - Jun 2 with 729 views | onehunglow |
Police stated wish
A land where those who assault police officers get pitiful sentences and where kids have no fear at all which means they feel they can get away with thing
Tat hell an arch hypocrite
Being an aggressive homosexual , he would be executed in the Palestine he advocates
Palestine is simply fashionable for the left to love
Now Greta is all for Palestine
Steaming hypocrites | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 09:48 - Jun 2 with 711 views | theloneranger |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 16:05 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I would imagine the use of the term “stormtrooper” was deliberate too and he wasn’t insinuating Star Wars either… |
I noticed in his opening statement, he also used the term "jack boot" - which goes well with "stormtrooper" !! |  |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 09:54 - Jun 2 with 695 views | trampie |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 09:36 - Jun 2 by onehunglow |
Police stated wish
A land where those who assault police officers get pitiful sentences and where kids have no fear at all which means they feel they can get away with thing
Tat hell an arch hypocrite
Being an aggressive homosexual , he would be executed in the Palestine he advocates
Palestine is simply fashionable for the left to love
Now Greta is all for Palestine
Steaming hypocrites |
Greta back in the news. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 10:01 - Jun 2 with 689 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:26 - Jun 2 by trampie |
Since Scotia is not going to own his mistake, back to another story involving the Quakers reported in the Morning Star :-
Quakers call Israeli government action in Gaza a genocide, when will other faiths do the same ?, I notice lots of people online saying yet again the Quakers are on the right side of history. |
Because it isn’t in any way a genocide. Even if we can take the Hamas Health Ministry in good faith and believe their probably inflated death statistics of 50 thousand deaths in almost two years then in the context of genocide that would be a pathetically small number. If the Israelis were systematically and ruthlessly trying to eradicate Palestinians from the world they are doing a shocking job of it. The Rwandan genocide saw a million killed in just a few weeks. The final solution and subsequent holocaust saw 6 million dead in just under four years.
A similar number of people died during the blitz than have died in Gaza in a much shorter period of time.
Stop using words you clearly don’t know the meaning of. |  |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 13:49 - Jun 2 with 615 views | trampie |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 10:01 - Jun 2 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Because it isn’t in any way a genocide. Even if we can take the Hamas Health Ministry in good faith and believe their probably inflated death statistics of 50 thousand deaths in almost two years then in the context of genocide that would be a pathetically small number. If the Israelis were systematically and ruthlessly trying to eradicate Palestinians from the world they are doing a shocking job of it. The Rwandan genocide saw a million killed in just a few weeks. The final solution and subsequent holocaust saw 6 million dead in just under four years.
A similar number of people died during the blitz than have died in Gaza in a much shorter period of time.
Stop using words you clearly don’t know the meaning of. |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:10 - Jun 2 with 579 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 09:36 - Jun 2 by onehunglow |
Police stated wish
A land where those who assault police officers get pitiful sentences and where kids have no fear at all which means they feel they can get away with thing
Tat hell an arch hypocrite
Being an aggressive homosexual , he would be executed in the Palestine he advocates
Palestine is simply fashionable for the left to love
Now Greta is all for Palestine
Steaming hypocrites |
Sorry sir go away and get a conscience. Blowing up hospitals and prevent food and water supplies too starving women and children is not good under any circumstances. The world is an unfair place.
Blowing up babies had never been fashionable. |  |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:14 - Jun 2 with 574 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 10:01 - Jun 2 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Because it isn’t in any way a genocide. Even if we can take the Hamas Health Ministry in good faith and believe their probably inflated death statistics of 50 thousand deaths in almost two years then in the context of genocide that would be a pathetically small number. If the Israelis were systematically and ruthlessly trying to eradicate Palestinians from the world they are doing a shocking job of it. The Rwandan genocide saw a million killed in just a few weeks. The final solution and subsequent holocaust saw 6 million dead in just under four years.
A similar number of people died during the blitz than have died in Gaza in a much shorter period of time.
Stop using words you clearly don’t know the meaning of. |
You are a well known cheerful poster and quite amusing at time. On this matter you are way out of your depth.
Some Israeli activists were obstructing food and water supplies supposedly to help free hostages. Hamas care not a jot for their own people | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 13:22 - Jun 3 with 438 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 13:49 - Jun 2 by trampie |
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Do those organisations also class the blitz as a genocide then? Or the 300,000 mostly Japanese who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were they also the victim of genocide?
No.
I’m talking about the actual meaning of the word. Not the semantics some politically motivated activist groups use.
You can argue that Israel’s actions constitute war crimes or its mass murder. We may disagree but iif your case was coherent I may agree it may be a legitimate argument.
But genocide? No way. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 13:24 - Jun 3 with 437 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:14 - Jun 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are a well known cheerful poster and quite amusing at time. On this matter you are way out of your depth.
Some Israeli activists were obstructing food and water supplies supposedly to help free hostages. Hamas care not a jot for their own people |
You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:29 - Jun 3 with 397 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 13:24 - Jun 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. |
The definition of genocide is as follows
"Genocide is defined as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.".
Israel says Palestine does not exist and wants to disperse the Palestinians to other Muslim states and rejects a two state solution . They are currently " stateless".
Bombing hospitals and preventing provisions with the aim of chasing out Palestinians out of the land they have occupied for thousands of years is deeply disturbing and looks like genocide based on the definition given. [Post edited 3 Jun 14:29]
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:39 - Jun 3 with 386 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 13:22 - Jun 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Do those organisations also class the blitz as a genocide then? Or the 300,000 mostly Japanese who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were they also the victim of genocide?
No.
I’m talking about the actual meaning of the word. Not the semantics some politically motivated activist groups use.
You can argue that Israel’s actions constitute war crimes or its mass murder. We may disagree but iif your case was coherent I may agree it may be a legitimate argument.
But genocide? No way. |
You do not understand the subject. The blitz was not an attempt to wipe out the indigenous British or English people. It was intended to defeat them millirary.
It is not a question of numbers or level of brutality. It is a definition of an aim to end the Palestinian identity by eradication and forced dispersal.
Some argue Israel want the indigenous Palestinians to leave Palestine or be assimilated as Israeli s by force. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 16:48 - Jun 3 with 354 views | Gwyn737 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:39 - Jun 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You do not understand the subject. The blitz was not an attempt to wipe out the indigenous British or English people. It was intended to defeat them millirary.
It is not a question of numbers or level of brutality. It is a definition of an aim to end the Palestinian identity by eradication and forced dispersal.
Some argue Israel want the indigenous Palestinians to leave Palestine or be assimilated as Israeli s by force. |
So by that definition, Hammas, by wanting to destroy Isreal, are comitting genocide?
The definition doesn't reallly matter to me (a bit like the posts on what is terrorism), it's just all awful.
I don't post on this topic really but for me, the Oct 7th attacks deserved retribution, but the retaliaton to this point seems to be going too far.
That's just my opinion and future events could very well see that opinion change. | | | |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 18:08 - Jun 3 with 329 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 14:39 - Jun 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You do not understand the subject. The blitz was not an attempt to wipe out the indigenous British or English people. It was intended to defeat them millirary.
It is not a question of numbers or level of brutality. It is a definition of an aim to end the Palestinian identity by eradication and forced dispersal.
Some argue Israel want the indigenous Palestinians to leave Palestine or be assimilated as Israeli s by force. |
Forced dispersal you say, well it's not genocide then because a forced dispersal osn't killing.
I think we can all agree that what has been going on out there is shocking, disgusting and as Gwyn says, retribution for the Oct 7th attack was fair enough but what Israel has done since is way over the top.
Netanyahu is now a war criminal.
On the other hand, HAMAS, they are also war criinals, they hide behind civilians, hide weapons under schools and hospitals and don't care how many of their own people die in the pursuit of killing Jews.
There is no good in this, how anyone can believe in a god who would allow this is beyond me. | | | |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 18:12 - Jun 3 with 321 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 16:48 - Jun 3 by Gwyn737 |
So by that definition, Hammas, by wanting to destroy Isreal, are comitting genocide?
The definition doesn't reallly matter to me (a bit like the posts on what is terrorism), it's just all awful.
I don't post on this topic really but for me, the Oct 7th attacks deserved retribution, but the retaliaton to this point seems to be going too far.
That's just my opinion and future events could very well see that opinion change. |
Hamas would commit genocide if they had the ability but they do not. That should be obvious. They are not for compromise. Neither are Likud. Israel on the other hand has all the tools to do the job and is supported by the UK in practical terms.
I do not approach this matter partisan way. I just want the people of the area to respect each other and live in peace this is not served by bulldozers, annexation nationalistic rhetoric.
Land theft leads to violent reaction as would happen if your own property was taken over by force. It is not complicated. If Israel stops building new settlements and agrees to the formation of a Palestinian state violence would drop off rapidly.
Land theft is issue no 1. Everything else is related to this as in Ukraine. Theft is theft no matter how rich you are, or what friends you have, or how good your educational system is. Smart people usually refine their behaviour when they know they are in the wrong. It does not happen in this area. | |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 18:36 - Jun 3 with 305 views | raynor94 |
| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 07:15 - Jun 2 by trampie |
I never said it was a pro Palestine meeting, the tweet doesn't say it is a pro Palestine meeting, the link doesn't say it is a pro Palestine meeting, you need to admit to your mistake. |
So what do you think the meeting was about? |  |
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| Disturbing - Quaker House raided on 19:13 - Jun 3 with 281 views | onehunglow |
One should stand by what one says
Quakers, self indulgent jerks who expect others to protect their freedom to worship the Great Spirit | |
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