| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India 10:14 - Jun 12 with 1222 views | theloneranger |
"A London-bound plane has crashed shortly after take-off in Ahmedabad, western India
Air India says: "Flight AI171, operating Ahmedabad-London Gatwick, was involved in an incident today"
The plane is understood to have been carrying more than 200 passengers
Tracking website Flightradar24 says: "We received the last signal from the aircraft... just seconds after take off"
It appears to have crashed in a residential area, our South Asia correspondent reports."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8d1r3m8z92t
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 11:37 - Jun 12 with 1176 views | onehunglow |
A Dreamliner too
Many of us will have flown on one |  |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 15:26 - Jun 12 with 1087 views | trampie |
It's terrible when a plane comes down. |  |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 15:58 - Jun 12 with 1055 views | trampie |
Are they going to ground Boeing planes I wonder ?, there seems to be lots of issues with Boeing planes in recent years, no idea what's happened with this crash but Boeing seem in recent years to have gone from having a good name to not having such a good name (regardless of what has happened in this crash). | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:16 - Jun 12 with 1040 views | theloneranger |
It's being reported that there's 1 British survivor!! | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:17 - Jun 12 with 1034 views | union_jack |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 15:58 - Jun 12 by trampie |
Are they going to ground Boeing planes I wonder ?, there seems to be lots of issues with Boeing planes in recent years, no idea what's happened with this crash but Boeing seem in recent years to have gone from having a good name to not having such a good name (regardless of what has happened in this crash). |
There are a number of indications this is not a problem with the aircraft which has an excellent safety record. You are referring to the 737 Max which had to be grounded worldwide.
Reports I’ve read suggest the aircraft took off at only half the runway length which given its weight may not have been enough. Clearly it got off the ground but stalled very shortly afterwards indicating lack of / insufficient power to get it to altitude. It maybe a double engine failure but this seems unlikely unless it was a bird strike but no signs if that from the videos, Fuel issues another possibility.
Flaps look to have been deployed I think but if there is sufficient power they could get off the ground without full flaps I believe.
Most accidents are a result of a perfect storm though and it may be a mix of any of those above, |  |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:32 - Jun 12 with 1002 views | trampie |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:17 - Jun 12 by union_jack |
There are a number of indications this is not a problem with the aircraft which has an excellent safety record. You are referring to the 737 Max which had to be grounded worldwide.
Reports I’ve read suggest the aircraft took off at only half the runway length which given its weight may not have been enough. Clearly it got off the ground but stalled very shortly afterwards indicating lack of / insufficient power to get it to altitude. It maybe a double engine failure but this seems unlikely unless it was a bird strike but no signs if that from the videos, Fuel issues another possibility.
Flaps look to have been deployed I think but if there is sufficient power they could get off the ground without full flaps I believe.
Most accidents are a result of a perfect storm though and it may be a mix of any of those above, |
No I'm not referring to the 737 per se, this plane is one of their newer breeds and there has been the odd issue with it, would they ground it till they are sure it was nothing to do with the plane ?, people are saying Boeing is too big to fail, I don't think they will ground this newish model as its its first fatal accident but I think they should until they can rule out that it was nothing to do with the plane. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:34 - Jun 12 with 994 views | trampie |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:16 - Jun 12 by theloneranger |
It's being reported that there's 1 British survivor!! |
Not just survived but walked away they are saying.  | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:38 - Jun 12 with 983 views | swan65split |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:34 - Jun 12 by trampie |
Not just survived but walked away they are saying. |
Ive seen a clip on X showing what they say is a survivor, says he jumped from an emerrgency exit....walking wounded!! |  | | |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:41 - Jun 12 with 979 views | union_jack |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:32 - Jun 12 by trampie |
No I'm not referring to the 737 per se, this plane is one of their newer breeds and there has been the odd issue with it, would they ground it till they are sure it was nothing to do with the plane ?, people are saying Boeing is too big to fail, I don't think they will ground this newish model as its its first fatal accident but I think they should until they can rule out that it was nothing to do with the plane. |
The cost involved will be a factor. Yes, I know lives should mean more but the financial impact of grounding a fleet of aircraft for what might be an isolated fault at worse (more likely to be pilot error or an unavoidable issue) is unlikely. Just my thoughts. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:48 - Jun 12 with 965 views | swan65split |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:38 - Jun 12 by swan65split |
Ive seen a clip on X showing what they say is a survivor, says he jumped from an emerrgency exit....walking wounded!! |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:50 - Jun 12 with 962 views | swan65split |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:48 - Jun 12 by swan65split |
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And this link???? | | | |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 18:36 - Jun 12 with 850 views | majorraglan |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:32 - Jun 12 by trampie |
No I'm not referring to the 737 per se, this plane is one of their newer breeds and there has been the odd issue with it, would they ground it till they are sure it was nothing to do with the plane ?, people are saying Boeing is too big to fail, I don't think they will ground this newish model as its its first fatal accident but I think they should until they can rule out that it was nothing to do with the plane. |
The 787 has an excellent safety record, but as you point out the 737 Max has had a number of issues and was involved in 2 dreadful crashes before it was grounded.
Boeing has, over the last few years been under scrutiny regarding its safety record and there have been concerns about work8ng practice at its plant where the Dreamliner is assembled.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/12/whistleblower-raised-safety-fears-bo | | | |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 19:17 - Jun 12 with 796 views | trampie |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 18:36 - Jun 12 by majorraglan |
The 787 has an excellent safety record, but as you point out the 737 Max has had a number of issues and was involved in 2 dreadful crashes before it was grounded.
Boeing has, over the last few years been under scrutiny regarding its safety record and there have been concerns about work8ng practice at its plant where the Dreamliner is assembled.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/12/whistleblower-raised-safety-fears-bo |
Does 787 have an excellent safety record ?, I don't know enough about it to comment but what I've read in the past I don't think it does have an excellent safety record, deaths is only one measurement. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 21:44 - Jun 12 with 729 views | Dr_Winston |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 19:17 - Jun 12 by trampie |
Does 787 have an excellent safety record ?, I don't know enough about it to comment but what I've read in the past I don't think it does have an excellent safety record, deaths is only one measurement. |
"I don't know enough about it to comment"
You've never let that stop you before. |  |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 23:47 - Jun 12 with 684 views | DJack |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 21:44 - Jun 12 by Dr_Winston |
"I don't know enough about it to comment"
You've never let that stop you before. |
He's always "Just Asking Questions" as he doesn't know enough. yet for other posts he Googles very well. Strange that |  |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 08:59 - Jun 13 with 554 views | trampie |
787s not grounded (yet), does that mean that investigators think there is no reason to ground the plane ?, you would think they would ground planes immediately until their initial investigation which might be a very short space of time in some circumstances (although i know full investigationscan take a long time), I would not be comfortable being booked onto a 787 flight until I knew what was what. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 09:42 - Jun 13 with 536 views | controversial_jack |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 08:59 - Jun 13 by trampie |
787s not grounded (yet), does that mean that investigators think there is no reason to ground the plane ?, you would think they would ground planes immediately until their initial investigation which might be a very short space of time in some circumstances (although i know full investigationscan take a long time), I would not be comfortable being booked onto a 787 flight until I knew what was what. |
Looks as if they are looking at pilot error, which would be convenient for Boeing | | | |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 09:57 - Jun 13 with 528 views | Whiterockin |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 09:42 - Jun 13 by controversial_jack |
Looks as if they are looking at pilot error, which would be convenient for Boeing |
Or it could be the fact. |  | | |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 10:04 - Jun 13 with 512 views | trampie |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 09:42 - Jun 13 by controversial_jack |
Looks as if they are looking at pilot error, which would be convenient for Boeing |
I didn't like to say that, although I thought it. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 11:47 - Jun 13 with 456 views | Boundy |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 09:57 - Jun 13 by Whiterockin |
Or it could be the fact. |
Based on past experiences that wouldn't matter in the slightest. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 13:17 - Jun 13 with 416 views | theloneranger |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 09:42 - Jun 13 by controversial_jack |
Looks as if they are looking at pilot error, which would be convenient for Boeing |
In every plane crash, they look at pilot error as part of the full investigation. | |
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| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 13:47 - Jun 13 with 377 views | mangohilljack |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 16:50 - Jun 12 by swan65split |
And this link???? |
Complete nonsense. There is absolutely no way anyone could have survived that crash. The impact alone was catastrophic—and even if, by some miracle, someone had lived through that, the ensuing explosion would have sealed their fate. Anyone who’s seen the footage knows exactly what I mean—there’s just no chance. No survivors. | | | |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 14:09 - Jun 13 with 354 views | onehunglow |
| Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India on 13:47 - Jun 13 by mangohilljack |
Complete nonsense. There is absolutely no way anyone could have survived that crash. The impact alone was catastrophic—and even if, by some miracle, someone had lived through that, the ensuing explosion would have sealed their fate. Anyone who’s seen the footage knows exactly what I mean—there’s just no chance. No survivors. |
Have to say I agree with mango
I cannot believe anyone would have survived that with so minor injuries
Rather sinister really | |
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