| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach 13:36 - Jun 27 with 4164 views | KeithHaynes |
Hearing he is going to make a big impact on the club, already working with Sheehan this month and is really impressing. Players back soon so let’s hope he eases himself into the squad dynamic.
Haven’t done a lot of work on him but have been pointed towards the following open source references.
Formation:
His preferred formation is a 4-3-3, specifically described as "4-3-3 attacking”
Playing Style:
O'Dea's teams are known for their high pressing, high-intensity style of play. This requires players to be extremely fit to maintain the tempo and pressure on the opposition throughout the match.
Mentality:
O'Dea emphasizes developing a strong mentality and "killer attitude" in his players, believing it's crucial for success,
Player Development:
He focuses on nurturing players with strong minds and the ability to beat opponents and create chances. He also emphasizes the need to manage young players effectively, notes Glasgow Live.
Adaptability:
While his preferred style is clear, he also adapts his approach based on the players available and the specific game situation. In essence, O'Dea's tactics revolve around a high-octane, physically demanding style of play, coupled with a strong focus on player development and mentality.
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 13:40 - Jun 27 with 3224 views | raynor94 |
I like the sound of high press high intensity style of play |  |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 13:41 - Jun 27 with 3222 views | Fireboy2 |
Thats great to know keef. |  | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 13:46 - Jun 27 with 3199 views | howenjack |
The only problem with a smallish squad is will we be fit enough over a demanding 46 game season to keep this up? |  | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 15:12 - Jun 27 with 3042 views | Boundy |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 13:46 - Jun 27 by howenjack |
The only problem with a smallish squad is will we be fit enough over a demanding 46 game season to keep this up? |
The other issue which may add to the concern is how well the treatment /recovery will be for any player who needs off field treatment ,I don't know whether its not been an issue in the past but if the intention to change the method of how the players are asked to play then maybe .Ginnelly for example has been out for quite a significant time , would there be anything the physio team need to improve on when treating players . | |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 20:30 - Jun 27 with 2786 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 15:12 - Jun 27 by Boundy |
The other issue which may add to the concern is how well the treatment /recovery will be for any player who needs off field treatment ,I don't know whether its not been an issue in the past but if the intention to change the method of how the players are asked to play then maybe .Ginnelly for example has been out for quite a significant time , would there be anything the physio team need to improve on when treating players . |
The wide attacking players are key in 433, we were blessed with Sinclair and Dyer when we got out of the Championship. |  |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 20:50 - Jun 27 with 2730 views | GVJack |
Like the sound of :-
"nurturing players with strong minds and the ability to beat opponents and create chances." | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:10 - Jun 27 with 2696 views | sons_of_omri |
The most important part for me is his desire to develop a killer instinct mentality in the players. If you want to get out of this division you have to be ruthless with your opponents. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:52 - Jun 27 with 2621 views | DJack |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:10 - Jun 27 by sons_of_omri |
The most important part for me is his desire to develop a killer instinct mentality in the players. If you want to get out of this division you have to be ruthless with your opponents. |
The comments above about small squad, treatment/revovery & wingers nail it.
Lets hope these are planned for. |  |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 22:13 - Jun 27 with 2578 views | sons_of_omri |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:52 - Jun 27 by DJack |
The comments above about small squad, treatment/revovery & wingers nail it.
Lets hope these are planned for. |
I think we’ve been led to believe that there will certainly be more players coming in after July 1st. Don’t forget the “wow” signing we’ve been promised also. . I reckon a couple of good supporting players at fullback and central midfield plus another striker if Yates goes and we’ll be more competitive than last season. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 08:48 - Jun 28 with 2333 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:52 - Jun 27 by DJack |
The comments above about small squad, treatment/revovery & wingers nail it.
Lets hope these are planned for. |
O have to agree but still, looking at what Sheehan achieved last season (with a squad many thought poor) and now we have O'Dea, if we et recruitment right AND we can effectively bring through some young players it looks very promising.
My son is already sure we'll be challenging but the many years of experience tell me to wait and see. Hopefully we get a good pre-season with no injuries and a fully fit squad for the opening games then 10 games or so in, we will know hiw good we are.
I do like the sound of O'Dea and whoever identified him and got him on board has, on paper anyway, done a very good job.
The proof of the pudding though, always in the eating. Time will tell. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 09:13 - Jun 28 with 2271 views | PawelAbbott |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 22:13 - Jun 27 by sons_of_omri |
I think we’ve been led to believe that there will certainly be more players coming in after July 1st. Don’t forget the “wow” signing we’ve been promised also. . I reckon a couple of good supporting players at fullback and central midfield plus another striker if Yates goes and we’ll be more competitive than last season. |
We desperately need a new striker whatever happens to Yates.
There's no one at the club that could be a called a championship level striker. They'd all fail to get in a side in the top half of the division | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 09:44 - Jun 28 with 2193 views | KeithHaynes |
It’s especially worth remembering Darren didn’t come here for free. He’s another incidental cost on preparing Swansea City for the season ahead. | |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:23 - Jun 28 with 1860 views | sons_of_omri |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 09:13 - Jun 28 by PawelAbbott |
We desperately need a new striker whatever happens to Yates.
There's no one at the club that could be a called a championship level striker. They'd all fail to get in a side in the top half of the division |
Vipotnik had more than half a season where the rest of the side basically played walking football. He’s a Slovenian international so wipe the slate clean and give him a chance . I’m not saying he’ll do a Piroe but at least he’ll get more chances . He has scored a couple of belters so I’m optimistic about him.
I wonder if Leeds will let Piroe go out on loan? I’d love him back | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:27 - Jun 28 with 1851 views | Whiterockin |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:23 - Jun 28 by sons_of_omri |
Vipotnik had more than half a season where the rest of the side basically played walking football. He’s a Slovenian international so wipe the slate clean and give him a chance . I’m not saying he’ll do a Piroe but at least he’ll get more chances . He has scored a couple of belters so I’m optimistic about him.
I wonder if Leeds will let Piroe go out on loan? I’d love him back |
Vipotnik looks clueless to me, but I will be very happy to be proved wrong. |  | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:42 - Jun 28 with 1813 views | Dr_Winston |
Again, the idea that a striker isn't up to it if he doesn't get 20 goals keeps doing the rounds despite a mountain of evidence to suggest that 20 goal strikers are not all that common and certainly not necessary. Not one single player managed it last season. Only four players in the division managed 15 or more.
If Vip can get 12-13 goals next season (and I certainly consider him capable of that) then that'll be fine provided others chip in as well. We need five or six players getting within the 5-10 goal range. Do that and we'll have done just as well as Sheff Utd did this season. None of their players scored more than ten, but six scored five or more. Sunderland's top scorer managed twelve. |  |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 22:53 - Jun 28 with 1726 views | Fireboy2 |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:42 - Jun 28 by Dr_Winston |
Again, the idea that a striker isn't up to it if he doesn't get 20 goals keeps doing the rounds despite a mountain of evidence to suggest that 20 goal strikers are not all that common and certainly not necessary. Not one single player managed it last season. Only four players in the division managed 15 or more.
If Vip can get 12-13 goals next season (and I certainly consider him capable of that) then that'll be fine provided others chip in as well. We need five or six players getting within the 5-10 goal range. Do that and we'll have done just as well as Sheff Utd did this season. None of their players scored more than ten, but six scored five or more. Sunderland's top scorer managed twelve. |
Looking at the players we have signed we are definitely going to be more attacking so what you say about not just relying on the striker with the wingers and attacking midfielders scoring will hopefully come true. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 23:18 - Jun 28 with 1675 views | Dr_Winston |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 22:53 - Jun 28 by Fireboy2 |
Looking at the players we have signed we are definitely going to be more attacking so what you say about not just relying on the striker with the wingers and attacking midfielders scoring will hopefully come true. |
I would hope that Widell, Inoussa and Eom can all get between five and ten goals. Probably Cullen, Ronald & Wales too. Anything close to 15 from VIP would see us right. Even ten would do if the others score in the higher range.
Seven players scoring 60 goals between them would have put us fifth in the division for goals scored this season, and there will probably be another 5-10 from the rest of the team. | |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 07:17 - Jun 29 with 1531 views | jack247 |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:42 - Jun 28 by Dr_Winston |
Again, the idea that a striker isn't up to it if he doesn't get 20 goals keeps doing the rounds despite a mountain of evidence to suggest that 20 goal strikers are not all that common and certainly not necessary. Not one single player managed it last season. Only four players in the division managed 15 or more.
If Vip can get 12-13 goals next season (and I certainly consider him capable of that) then that'll be fine provided others chip in as well. We need five or six players getting within the 5-10 goal range. Do that and we'll have done just as well as Sheff Utd did this season. None of their players scored more than ten, but six scored five or more. Sunderland's top scorer managed twelve. |
First paragraph I agree with
Second paragraph - it’s not as simple as that. He doesn’t contribute anything outside of goals.
If he can move from 7 to 12/13 (which I agree is very possible if Widdell, Wales and Inoussa live up to hype), it’s still not enough if he’s….
not creating chances for others
not imposing himself physically
still has the worst anticipation/game reading of any striker I can remember (this is his biggest problem IMO)
It wouldn’t make him as effective as Cullen was last season. Cullen doesn’t need others to do as much for him.
None of his goals being headers and no assists backs up how little impact he had and no amount of blaming anyone else changes that.
He may improve, he’s certainly got a great shot with little backlift on either foot, but he’s got to be a much, much better all round player than he was last season. A repeat with 12 or 13 goals would still be underwhelming for me. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 11:31 - Jun 29 with 1339 views | grabsplatter |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 07:17 - Jun 29 by jack247 |
First paragraph I agree with
Second paragraph - it’s not as simple as that. He doesn’t contribute anything outside of goals.
If he can move from 7 to 12/13 (which I agree is very possible if Widdell, Wales and Inoussa live up to hype), it’s still not enough if he’s….
not creating chances for others
not imposing himself physically
still has the worst anticipation/game reading of any striker I can remember (this is his biggest problem IMO)
It wouldn’t make him as effective as Cullen was last season. Cullen doesn’t need others to do as much for him.
None of his goals being headers and no assists backs up how little impact he had and no amount of blaming anyone else changes that.
He may improve, he’s certainly got a great shot with little backlift on either foot, but he’s got to be a much, much better all round player than he was last season. A repeat with 12 or 13 goals would still be underwhelming for me. |
I agree on most of that (unfortunately).
Hopefully a full pre season with our coaching team & the experience of a full Championship season behind him will mean he'll kick on - he needs to.
I'm not convinced we're going to resign McBurnie but if you compare his all round game in the Championship campaign with Vips last year (at a similar age) there's a massive difference |  | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 16:24 - Jun 29 with 1158 views | jack247 |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 11:31 - Jun 29 by grabsplatter |
I agree on most of that (unfortunately).
Hopefully a full pre season with our coaching team & the experience of a full Championship season behind him will mean he'll kick on - he needs to.
I'm not convinced we're going to resign McBurnie but if you compare his all round game in the Championship campaign with Vips last year (at a similar age) there's a massive difference |
Yeah I’m reluctant to write him off completely, just in case that was a ‘settling in’ season and he comes back a different player.
The same again with 5 more goals just wouldn’t be enough for me. He doesn’t contribute enough in general, not just goals. Not in any way comparable to McBurnie in our first season after relegation. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:02 - Jun 29 with 1018 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 16:24 - Jun 29 by jack247 |
Yeah I’m reluctant to write him off completely, just in case that was a ‘settling in’ season and he comes back a different player.
The same again with 5 more goals just wouldn’t be enough for me. He doesn’t contribute enough in general, not just goals. Not in any way comparable to McBurnie in our first season after relegation. |
I tend to agree BUT I'll give him a chance this season because his settling in time was under a poor manager. Hopefully under Sheehan he'll kick on.
You are both 100% right though, even if he scores more goals its not enough, he needs to contribute in other areas too.
I remember Bony, good in attack but also one of our best defenders at set pieces. Lets hope Vip proves his worth next season. | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:24 - Jun 29 with 984 views | raynor94 |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:02 - Jun 29 by SullutaCreturned |
I tend to agree BUT I'll give him a chance this season because his settling in time was under a poor manager. Hopefully under Sheehan he'll kick on.
You are both 100% right though, even if he scores more goals its not enough, he needs to contribute in other areas too.
I remember Bony, good in attack but also one of our best defenders at set pieces. Lets hope Vip proves his worth next season. |
I always remember some saying Jason Scotland he does nothing but score goals
If he scores 20 goals ill excuse him not running all over the pitch | |
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 05:42 - Jun 30 with 872 views | jack247 |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 21:24 - Jun 29 by raynor94 |
I always remember some saying Jason Scotland he does nothing but score goals
If he scores 20 goals ill excuse him not running all over the pitch |
That was utter nonsense though. Jason Scotland did a lot more than score goals. He held the ball up on his own, created chances for teammates and created chances for himself. Bony and Llorente aside, I can’t think of a striker better defending set pieces.
Some people confused not dropping deep or running the channels with doing nothing.
Vipotnik doesn’t score many goals and he doesn’t do a lot else. If he played like Jason Scotland and got 12/13 goals, I’d be really happy. Even if he got 7 at least he’d be occupying 2 defenders at a time and playing others in.
Just have to hope he comes back a different player. [Post edited 30 Jun 5:44]
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| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 09:15 - Jun 30 with 721 views | Ver1tas |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 22:13 - Jun 27 by sons_of_omri |
I think we’ve been led to believe that there will certainly be more players coming in after July 1st. Don’t forget the “wow” signing we’ve been promised also. . I reckon a couple of good supporting players at fullback and central midfield plus another striker if Yates goes and we’ll be more competitive than last season. |
Who has promised a WOW signing? | | | |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 10:21 - Jun 30 with 641 views | KeithHaynes |
| Darren O'Dea : Assistant Head Coach on 09:15 - Jun 30 by Ver1tas |
Who has promised a WOW signing? |
Someone who can predict the future 🤷🏻♂️
As it stands I think there’s plenty of wow going on. | |
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