| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:41 - Jul 6 with 2744 views | jack247 |
Won’t be a popular view, but if Inoussa, Wales, Galbraith and Widdell play as we hope they will, there will be a lot of chances created. That kind of plays into the hands of players like Yates and Cullen.
Personally, I think that as we seem to be improving squad quality quite aggressively, we can probably do better than both of them, but that type of striker should thrive and I’m confident Yates will do ok if he ends up staying. |  | |  |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:51 - Jul 6 with 2706 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:41 - Jul 6 by jack247 |
Won’t be a popular view, but if Inoussa, Wales, Galbraith and Widdell play as we hope they will, there will be a lot of chances created. That kind of plays into the hands of players like Yates and Cullen.
Personally, I think that as we seem to be improving squad quality quite aggressively, we can probably do better than both of them, but that type of striker should thrive and I’m confident Yates will do ok if he ends up staying. |
Have to say the Fulton revelations have given me a different view on him as a person. |  |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:57 - Jul 6 with 2660 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:51 - Jul 6 by KeithHaynes |
Have to say the Fulton revelations have given me a different view on him as a person. |
Credit for that absolutely.
We need that type of player. We don’t have a tall physical midfielder without him.
For me, he’s in the same bracket as Cullen, Yates and Cooper. Will all do a job for us if they stay, but all are under threat of becoming victims of the owners evolving the squad. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 22:00 - Jul 6 with 2641 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:57 - Jul 6 by jack247 |
Credit for that absolutely.
We need that type of player. We don’t have a tall physical midfielder without him.
For me, he’s in the same bracket as Cullen, Yates and Cooper. Will all do a job for us if they stay, but all are under threat of becoming victims of the owners evolving the squad. |
I remember when we offered on Tommy Butler an extra year on his contract. Purely because of his comedic nature and firing up the dressing room. | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 22:31 - Jul 6 with 2535 views | Landore_Jack |
IMO Yates isn't good enough for the Championship. I remember Derby fans saying that during a match he would miss 2 or 3 big chances before finally scoring. His first season with us was a disaster. He was rubbish. I am not surprised no other Championship team has come in for him. I hope the club change their view and make signing a striker a priority. |  |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 22:54 - Jul 6 with 2478 views | swansjack84 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:51 - Jul 6 by KeithHaynes |
Have to say the Fulton revelations have given me a different view on him as a person. |
Fair play if he contributes off field, but on the wages he is on, are we pretty much concluding that the club might justify his wages to some extent due to his off field contribution? If we take him as a player and what he contributes as an individual on field, he needs to move on and doesn't fit where we are going.
I just can't bring myself to say keep Fulton. So I'm presuming based on that, it's the role dice with Yates and Fulton. They do well this season then it benefits us all, but it's a risk. If they fail, then we lose them both, and take the hit with losing money.
That's a hell of a gamble even if not many clubs will come in for them, and pay the wages they are on.
Does the club at least get something for them now even if that's a small amount or lose altogether? [Post edited 6 Jul 22:59]
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:01 - Jul 6 with 2442 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:51 - Jul 6 by KeithHaynes |
Have to say the Fulton revelations have given me a different view on him as a person. |
Thats fair enough but its on the pitch that counts.
Hes an expensive clubman. |  | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:06 - Jul 6 with 2424 views | swansjack84 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:01 - Jul 6 by Fireboy2 |
Thats fair enough but its on the pitch that counts.
Hes an expensive clubman. |
100%. Agree. I undertand the response from others will be that he contributes much more off field. Then if this is the case then give him some coaching role. Not sure why it might be justified his position.
This might sound a bit controversial, but if a person was hired to do a job and he fails at that. But is a good motivator, while on breaks or whatever, does that justify keeping the person in his job? Maybe move them into a role that he can use his strengths. | | | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:16 - Jul 6 with 2390 views | jackrmee |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:48 - Jul 6 with 2288 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:16 - Jul 6 by jackrmee |
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Crosswords or Fulton ? | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 00:01 - Jul 7 with 2277 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 22:31 - Jul 6 by Landore_Jack |
IMO Yates isn't good enough for the Championship. I remember Derby fans saying that during a match he would miss 2 or 3 big chances before finally scoring. His first season with us was a disaster. He was rubbish. I am not surprised no other Championship team has come in for him. I hope the club change their view and make signing a striker a priority. |
If he can score 12 for a struggling Derby team how many can he score for us.
As regards Fulton he gives a bit of height and toughens up our midfield.
If no suitable offers come in we keep both even if 27k a week is expensive for what we are getting. | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 05:51 - Jul 7 with 2091 views | PawelAbbott |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:01 - Jul 6 by Fireboy2 |
Thats fair enough but its on the pitch that counts.
Hes an expensive clubman. |
He is probably on as much money as Sheehan if not more.
If his only value is in his helping out in training, then that's a very expensive cheerleader.
As for strikers, we paid £2m for Yates and we woukd now struggle to get £800k. We spent £2m on Bianchini and he now needs a season in League 1!! There has been an awful lot of money wasted. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 06:16 - Jul 7 with 2049 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:06 - Jul 6 by swansjack84 |
100%. Agree. I undertand the response from others will be that he contributes much more off field. Then if this is the case then give him some coaching role. Not sure why it might be justified his position.
This might sound a bit controversial, but if a person was hired to do a job and he fails at that. But is a good motivator, while on breaks or whatever, does that justify keeping the person in his job? Maybe move them into a role that he can use his strengths. |
Fulton was utilised by Sheehan in our excellent run at the end of the season and that was when we had Allen and O'Brien. I have criticised Fulton myself many times when he was playing alongside Grimes, but under Sheehan he has played very well. Is he worth the money, no but that is not his fault. I for one would be happy if he was here next season unless we get a decent offer. |  | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 06:46 - Jul 7 with 2006 views | Dr_Winston |
The Fulton news is no great shock to anyone who has been paying attention. It was obvious from the faith that Sheehan put in him (and by extension the faith that the squad has in Sheehan) that he was very highly regarded, and he repaid that in spades despite people struggling to shake off old habits where he is concerned and give credit where it is due.
There is no doubt in my mind at all that if he was on half the money that he currently is, there would be no question of him leaving the club.
I would be quite happy going into the season with the forward options that we have too. Vipotnik, Yates and Cullen are all capable of getting into double figures with adequate service, and perhaps Wales is too. If players like Eom, Widell, Inoussa and Ronald can also get between 5-10 each, and with a more attacking style of play that is also extremely possible, then that is more than enough to get us top six. Realistically we only need one or two players managing to get into double figures as long as those others chip in.
Burnley had just two players get into double figures. Sunderland's top scorer managed 13 with nobody else getting into double figures. Sheff Utd had two players in double figures, with a top scorer on 11. Coventry just one player in double figures, scoring 12. Norwich had the second top goalscorer after Piroe and finished lower than we did.
It is an absolute myth that we need a 20 goal striker to achieve promotion. [Post edited 7 Jul 7:18]
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 08:37 - Jul 7 with 1805 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 06:16 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
Fulton was utilised by Sheehan in our excellent run at the end of the season and that was when we had Allen and O'Brien. I have criticised Fulton myself many times when he was playing alongside Grimes, but under Sheehan he has played very well. Is he worth the money, no but that is not his fault. I for one would be happy if he was here next season unless we get a decent offer. |
I’m not sure about this. Our midfield options were Franco, O’Brien, Allen and Fulton. Ollie Cooper or Eom out of position in an emergency.
Had Allen been able to play 90 minutes or two games in quick succession, he would have played a lot less. He was very much fourth choice out of four.
Numbers wise, it’s two in two out, but assuming Widdell and Galbraith have more minutes in them than Allen, it’s going to be harder for him. We still can’t afford to let him go without a replacement and he’ll still get games, we’ve still only really got four midfielders and presumably three will start, but I don’t think Sheehan had much choice but to play him last season. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:09 - Jul 7 with 1706 views | jackrmee |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 23:48 - Jul 6 by KeithHaynes |
Crosswords or Fulton ? |
Not sure if I'm going crazy, or I'm just looking for something that's not there haha | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:09 - Jul 7 with 1700 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 08:37 - Jul 7 by jack247 |
I’m not sure about this. Our midfield options were Franco, O’Brien, Allen and Fulton. Ollie Cooper or Eom out of position in an emergency.
Had Allen been able to play 90 minutes or two games in quick succession, he would have played a lot less. He was very much fourth choice out of four.
Numbers wise, it’s two in two out, but assuming Widdell and Galbraith have more minutes in them than Allen, it’s going to be harder for him. We still can’t afford to let him go without a replacement and he’ll still get games, we’ve still only really got four midfielders and presumably three will start, but I don’t think Sheehan had much choice but to play him last season. |
In April alone Fulton started in four matches and came on in the other two. Along with O'Brien and Franco he was Sheehan's preference. Not really the fourth choice out of four | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:28 - Jul 7 with 1637 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 06:46 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
The Fulton news is no great shock to anyone who has been paying attention. It was obvious from the faith that Sheehan put in him (and by extension the faith that the squad has in Sheehan) that he was very highly regarded, and he repaid that in spades despite people struggling to shake off old habits where he is concerned and give credit where it is due.
There is no doubt in my mind at all that if he was on half the money that he currently is, there would be no question of him leaving the club.
I would be quite happy going into the season with the forward options that we have too. Vipotnik, Yates and Cullen are all capable of getting into double figures with adequate service, and perhaps Wales is too. If players like Eom, Widell, Inoussa and Ronald can also get between 5-10 each, and with a more attacking style of play that is also extremely possible, then that is more than enough to get us top six. Realistically we only need one or two players managing to get into double figures as long as those others chip in.
Burnley had just two players get into double figures. Sunderland's top scorer managed 13 with nobody else getting into double figures. Sheff Utd had two players in double figures, with a top scorer on 11. Coventry just one player in double figures, scoring 12. Norwich had the second top goalscorer after Piroe and finished lower than we did.
It is an absolute myth that we need a 20 goal striker to achieve promotion. [Post edited 7 Jul 7:18]
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The longer times goes on the longer I think that Yates and fulton are going nowhere.
If its because sheehan can get a tune out of them both then I am happy.
In sheehan we trust. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:36 - Jul 7 with 1611 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:09 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
In April alone Fulton started in four matches and came on in the other two. Along with O'Brien and Franco he was Sheehan's preference. Not really the fourth choice out of four |
In March, one from five. We had one game under Sheehan in both February and May and he didn’t start either of them.
Of course he came on a lot. Allen couldn’t play 90 minutes. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:47 - Jul 7 with 1572 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:28 - Jul 7 by Fireboy2 |
The longer times goes on the longer I think that Yates and fulton are going nowhere.
If its because sheehan can get a tune out of them both then I am happy.
In sheehan we trust. |
If an acceptable offer came in for either the club wouldn't stand in their way more for financial reasons than footballing ones.
No matter how highly Fulton is respected within the club he earns too much. Yates has one year left on his deal and is unlikely to be offered another. If both were to go that could be worth more than £2m to us taking fees and saved wages into account.
It's not personal. Both are capable players. It's just business. | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:00 - Jul 7 with 1530 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:47 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
If an acceptable offer came in for either the club wouldn't stand in their way more for financial reasons than footballing ones.
No matter how highly Fulton is respected within the club he earns too much. Yates has one year left on his deal and is unlikely to be offered another. If both were to go that could be worth more than £2m to us taking fees and saved wages into account.
It's not personal. Both are capable players. It's just business. |
I totally agree with all that but im saying if we cant get rid, which atm is looking very likely.
I suspect like yourself that if a decent offer came in that both would go.
We dont know what is going on behind the scenes, does sheehan like these two, we know that he got a bit of a tune out of fulton and he has ever really worked with yates at all, so he might think that yates can fit in with his plans. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:08 - Jul 7 with 1501 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:00 - Jul 7 by Fireboy2 |
I totally agree with all that but im saying if we cant get rid, which atm is looking very likely.
I suspect like yourself that if a decent offer came in that both would go.
We dont know what is going on behind the scenes, does sheehan like these two, we know that he got a bit of a tune out of fulton and he has ever really worked with yates at all, so he might think that yates can fit in with his plans. |
Maybe. Unlike most of his predecessors Sheehan seems the type to roll up his sleeves and work to get the best out of what he has rather than strop and whinge about "backing". | |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:11 - Jul 7 with 1497 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:00 - Jul 7 by Fireboy2 |
I totally agree with all that but im saying if we cant get rid, which atm is looking very likely.
I suspect like yourself that if a decent offer came in that both would go.
We dont know what is going on behind the scenes, does sheehan like these two, we know that he got a bit of a tune out of fulton and he has ever really worked with yates at all, so he might think that yates can fit in with his plans. |
We probably can’t get rid you’re right. I wouldn’t want to get rid of Fulton without a replacement anyway. At the moment we’re only really Widdell and Galbraith in for Allen and O’Brien.
Reality is, we can do better than both players, but at the same time, I would be happy with both or either of them staying. It’s all very well having a competitive team (which I think we now have barring centre forward) but you need a strong squad over a season. Both play into that. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:19 - Jul 7 with 1471 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:08 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
Maybe. Unlike most of his predecessors Sheehan seems the type to roll up his sleeves and work to get the best out of what he has rather than strop and whinge about "backing". |
Yes, it seems like he wants to try and get the best out of every player he works with, I think its his demeanor, hes a very likeable bloke who gives everyone time and thats why he seems to get the best out of the players.
So glad that for 1 he wanted the job and 2 the owners gave it to him. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 11:29 - Jul 7 with 1305 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 06:46 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
The Fulton news is no great shock to anyone who has been paying attention. It was obvious from the faith that Sheehan put in him (and by extension the faith that the squad has in Sheehan) that he was very highly regarded, and he repaid that in spades despite people struggling to shake off old habits where he is concerned and give credit where it is due.
There is no doubt in my mind at all that if he was on half the money that he currently is, there would be no question of him leaving the club.
I would be quite happy going into the season with the forward options that we have too. Vipotnik, Yates and Cullen are all capable of getting into double figures with adequate service, and perhaps Wales is too. If players like Eom, Widell, Inoussa and Ronald can also get between 5-10 each, and with a more attacking style of play that is also extremely possible, then that is more than enough to get us top six. Realistically we only need one or two players managing to get into double figures as long as those others chip in.
Burnley had just two players get into double figures. Sunderland's top scorer managed 13 with nobody else getting into double figures. Sheff Utd had two players in double figures, with a top scorer on 11. Coventry just one player in double figures, scoring 12. Norwich had the second top goalscorer after Piroe and finished lower than we did.
It is an absolute myth that we need a 20 goal striker to achieve promotion. [Post edited 7 Jul 7:18]
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On the proviso that Vipotnik does a hell of a lot more than he did last season I agree with this. Chances aren’t just created, the attacking player needs to play his part in enabling them. It’s no coincidence Routledge used to have lots of clear cut chances, intelligent players that time runs well usually do.
Completely with you on sharing the goals out. It’s much more sustainable than relying on one player. It’s also harder for opponents to prepare for. | | | |
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