| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 13:50 - Jul 8 with 1913 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 12:48 - Jul 8 by Fireboy2 |
Perhaps he didnt get much chance to coach seeing as sheehan was here before williams and his team came. |
Possibly. That would seem odd though when we’ve got a highly rated coach and a striker not able to anticipate play or time his runs.
It’s not a pop at Sheehan anyway. As others have said, that may well be a skill that people either have or don’t. |  | |  |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 14:37 - Jul 8 with 1783 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Some strikers need time to develop and fit into a team. The much mentioned Gyorkeres, Ivan Toney was drummed out of Newcastle. Carlton Morris gad bummed around the lower leagues for several seasons before getting to the PL.
Vipotnik has the physical attribute to be a solid centre forward. His goal v Leeds was out of nowhere.Better hold up play and runs can be developed. He had the build of a Shearer.
Euro teams a have been sniffing around so they see potential in him. He needs to be Johnny on the spot in the 6 yard area. |  |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 14:50 - Jul 8 with 1765 views | OptimisticJack |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 14:37 - Jul 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Some strikers need time to develop and fit into a team. The much mentioned Gyorkeres, Ivan Toney was drummed out of Newcastle. Carlton Morris gad bummed around the lower leagues for several seasons before getting to the PL.
Vipotnik has the physical attribute to be a solid centre forward. His goal v Leeds was out of nowhere.Better hold up play and runs can be developed. He had the build of a Shearer.
Euro teams a have been sniffing around so they see potential in him. He needs to be Johnny on the spot in the 6 yard area. |
I tend to agree.
I would like to see him given a run of matches and given a bit more patience and support.
Goals grow confidence.
There is a decent centre forward there in my opinion. [Post edited 8 Jul 14:52]
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 16:09 - Jul 8 with 1658 views | Dr_Winston |
If the head coach is an idiot, it doesn't much matter how good his staff are. Sheehan could have coached his heart out but the final say in how we played would have been down to Williams.
Looked this up the other day to make a point about Lewis O'Brien, but it's valid in this context. The last three games of LW's reign saw us lose two out of three games. The first three matches under Sheehan saw us take seven points, against broadly similar opposition.
Same squad, vastly better performances and results. |  |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 16:26 - Jul 8 with 1617 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 16:09 - Jul 8 by Dr_Winston |
If the head coach is an idiot, it doesn't much matter how good his staff are. Sheehan could have coached his heart out but the final say in how we played would have been down to Williams.
Looked this up the other day to make a point about Lewis O'Brien, but it's valid in this context. The last three games of LW's reign saw us lose two out of three games. The first three matches under Sheehan saw us take seven points, against broadly similar opposition.
Same squad, vastly better performances and results. |
Except for Vipotnik, who did have two good games at the very start of Sheehans time in fairness, but then reverted to type and was at least as bad as he had been all season. In some ways, he looked worse, as virtually everyone else improved under Sheehan.
Knowing how and when to make a run, I’d guess at least, is pretty instinctive. I’m not implying Sheehan is at fault across either of his roles here, but I am saying he’s had a full season with Vipotnik across two roles. Many other players have improved significantly under him in the same period.
There’s absolutely no doubt that the squad responded better to and performed better under Sheehan. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 17:20 - Jul 8 with 1509 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 16:26 - Jul 8 by jack247 |
Except for Vipotnik, who did have two good games at the very start of Sheehans time in fairness, but then reverted to type and was at least as bad as he had been all season. In some ways, he looked worse, as virtually everyone else improved under Sheehan.
Knowing how and when to make a run, I’d guess at least, is pretty instinctive. I’m not implying Sheehan is at fault across either of his roles here, but I am saying he’s had a full season with Vipotnik across two roles. Many other players have improved significantly under him in the same period.
There’s absolutely no doubt that the squad responded better to and performed better under Sheehan. |
The thing that infuriates me about Vipotnik is his closing down. He runs up to a defender and stands well of him and they pass around him, give him a clatter and let him know you are there. Defenders marking Vipotnik have it far too easy. |  | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 17:26 - Jul 8 with 1505 views | majorraglan |
Given Fulton’s off the field work in “coaching” and developing the other players, should the club look to build on that work as he starts to “winds down” his playing career? He sounds like an excellent coach in the making. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 18:40 - Jul 8 with 1376 views | builthjack |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 14:01 - Jul 7 by KeithHaynes |
Personally for me Vipotnik is a concern, purely based on his effort last season. |
He is half a yard too slow in his attacking of the ball, both on the ground and in the air.
He can’t read the game. [Post edited 8 Jul 18:41]
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 21:49 - Jul 8 with 1183 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 18:40 - Jul 8 by builthjack |
He is half a yard too slow in his attacking of the ball, both on the ground and in the air.
He can’t read the game. [Post edited 8 Jul 18:41]
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This should be apparent to everyone by now.
If it can be coached into him, he’s got a decent chance. I’m not convinced it can though, as he’s been here a full season without tangible improvement and has actually played a decent amount of games for a young player. He shouldn’t be raw after 150 games. | | | |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 22:23 - Jul 8 with 1133 views | max936 |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 18:40 - Jul 8 by builthjack |
He is half a yard too slow in his attacking of the ball, both on the ground and in the air.
He can’t read the game. [Post edited 8 Jul 18:41]
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He lacks awareness and anticipation, another thing any decent striker needs to be is instinctive.
He's still young, but if he hasn't got those three qualities he's gonna struggle to get the goals he needs to prove himself, I'll be amazed and disappointed if we don't bring in a striker. |  |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 00:08 - Jul 10 with 769 views | jackrmee |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 10:03 - Jul 8 by jack247 |
Sheehan has had a season with him and he still can’t do the fundamentals. That’s not a knock at Sheehan.
Despite my opinion on him, I’d actually rather he stay than Yates, simply because Cullen can do what Yates does and quite possibly Bobby Wales can too. I actually think Yates will do better under Sheehan if he plays, just think we already have that role covered.
Ideally, I’d like us to bring in a first choice number nine and use Vipotnik from the bench or as an understudy. I’m not completely giving up on him, but he needs to show so much more than he has so far. |
With you here. Oli |  |
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 07:40 - Jul 10 with 673 views | RichardO |
What I am looking for in my forward players is a bit of pace and ball control to take advantage of that pace, stature or strength to hold up play to bring other players into play, a good understanding with the players around him to be able to anticipate their play to create space while being be able to finish goal scoring opportunities efficiently.
At the moment I am not too sure any of our forwards from last season have all those qualities.
Cullen has a number of these qualities and is quite tenacious but was shown up by Rodon who know of his lack of his lack of pace and was not troubled by him defensively and was also able to stroll out of defence knowing that Cullen couldn't catch him.
Yates just seems lightweight and again lacks pace to trouble defenders.
Vipotnik does not appear to have great ball control, or a great deal of pace.
Bianchini seems to have pace but again looks lightweight,
Ronald when creating or being in the right position for chances seems to lack that clinical finishing edge, often pull shots dragging them wide.
Is it a case of a number of these players trying too hard with a lack of support or understanding with the players around them and not understanding their roles in the team although that seemed to vastly improve under Sheehan
Will the new players around them improve them further and add some of the missing qualities, similar to the stark contrast between O'Brien and Grimes.
Think we needed extra quality up top as our existing forwards struggled to be dangerous enough to be able to relieve the pressure on us when we and being pressed, hope the new players can add to that. [Post edited 10 Jul 7:47]
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| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 09:06 - Jul 10 with 544 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City Part One. Jay Fulton revelations and do the club need a striker ? on 07:40 - Jul 10 by RichardO |
What I am looking for in my forward players is a bit of pace and ball control to take advantage of that pace, stature or strength to hold up play to bring other players into play, a good understanding with the players around him to be able to anticipate their play to create space while being be able to finish goal scoring opportunities efficiently.
At the moment I am not too sure any of our forwards from last season have all those qualities.
Cullen has a number of these qualities and is quite tenacious but was shown up by Rodon who know of his lack of his lack of pace and was not troubled by him defensively and was also able to stroll out of defence knowing that Cullen couldn't catch him.
Yates just seems lightweight and again lacks pace to trouble defenders.
Vipotnik does not appear to have great ball control, or a great deal of pace.
Bianchini seems to have pace but again looks lightweight,
Ronald when creating or being in the right position for chances seems to lack that clinical finishing edge, often pull shots dragging them wide.
Is it a case of a number of these players trying too hard with a lack of support or understanding with the players around them and not understanding their roles in the team although that seemed to vastly improve under Sheehan
Will the new players around them improve them further and add some of the missing qualities, similar to the stark contrast between O'Brien and Grimes.
Think we needed extra quality up top as our existing forwards struggled to be dangerous enough to be able to relieve the pressure on us when we and being pressed, hope the new players can add to that. [Post edited 10 Jul 7:47]
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Bang on the money
We've not one striker worthy of the title
We have assembled unmitigated dross whom we hope will leave
It's been our problem for to long
Possession , pretty footy but , in the end, meaningless drivel
Bianchini simply isn't up to it
Cullen with us as he's a south wales boy who accepts mediocre wages ,
Yates who is simply excreable in every department
And VIP, God bless him
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