| No more tax raises 17:49 - Jul 9 with 5555 views | SullutaCreturned |
No, instead we may see the personal tax allowance frozen for longer, so not extra taxes but as pay rises then more people are dragged into paying tax.
It seems like another measure to target the poorer people in society and ket the rich off the hook again. SO, will Starmer do it?
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| No more tax raises on 19:47 - Jul 16 with 536 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 19:21 - Jul 16 by SullutaCreturned |
The Senedd still uses PFI, they call it something else but it's exactly the same thing. It's been used for the heads of the valleys road upgrade and for the new cancer hospital in Velindre.
Westminster stopped PFI in 2018 with most contracts finished or close to their end.
Regardless, the fact remains that governments have wasted tens of billions of OUR money over the decades.
The credit cards, a google search revealed...
While the term "abuse" can encompass various issues, Westminster credit cards, specifically those issued by NatWest (formerly National Westminster Bank), have been subject to scrutiny regarding potential misuse and overcharging. The Payment Systems Regulator (PSR) fined NatWest Group for incorrectly treating some credit cards as commercial cards, leading to excessive interchange fees. Additionally, reports highlight concerns about the potential for fraud and misuse of council credit cards, including those issued by the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead.
Here's a breakdown:
Interchange fee overcharging:
The PSR found that NatWest and other related banks incorrectly classified some credit cards, resulting in higher interchange fees than legally permitted.
Potential for fraud in council credit cards:
Reports have raised concerns about the lack of proper authorization and accounting for council credit card spending, suggesting potential risks of fraud and misuse, as highlighted in a report concerning the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead. |
There has been waste, genuine waste. Look at the stupid Rwanda scheme and HS2. But both were vote winners, genuine waste can only be seen in hindsight in most cases.
I'm pretty sure the Senedd chucking money at CWL airport is a waste but who knows. I think the Senedd itself is a waste but plenty would disagree.
I'm referring to the actual tax take today and how it's used to fund crucial services. I genuinely don't think there's much day to day waste, just different priorities. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 19:59 - Jul 16 with 513 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 21:31 - Jul 13 by Scotia |
I don't want to punish anyone, we have to be realistic though.
I'm sorry but the triple lock is unsustainable. I wish it wasn't
This thread seems to go a long way to proving my point. We want services nobody is prepared to pay for. |
"I'm sorry but the triple lock is unsustainable. I wish it wasn't" yeah rightio
You need to get involved in politics you've got all the answers all the same answers, you'll make us all paupers you related to smirker Reeves you just shout off about us all paying more regardless of what people are earning or living now, some live hand to mouth.
Where do you "work" a family business is it, the way you talk money is obviously no object for you and you are of the misconception that others are the same.
You need to get out and visit some of the people that I do, for a start there's a lot of people who have worked all their lives who are in poor living on their own and counting their pennies living in relative squalor you could do with seeing a few eye openers, then again you would make some excuse or other. |  |
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| No more tax raises on 20:03 - Jul 16 with 507 views | Dr_Winston |
| No more tax raises on 18:48 - Jul 16 by Scotia |
Where is it pissing it away?
Most of it is tied up in fulfilling some form of legislation that we voted to implement in one way or another, or to fulfill a service. There's spending that I consider to be a waste, but to others is essential. |
More than £12bn a year, probably close to double that when everything is factored in, is paid in benefits to foreign nationals. Why is the UK benefit system paying non UK citizens? That's just one example. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| No more tax raises on 20:04 - Jul 16 with 506 views | Dr_Winston |
| No more tax raises on 19:59 - Jul 16 by max936 |
"I'm sorry but the triple lock is unsustainable. I wish it wasn't" yeah rightio
You need to get involved in politics you've got all the answers all the same answers, you'll make us all paupers you related to smirker Reeves you just shout off about us all paying more regardless of what people are earning or living now, some live hand to mouth.
Where do you "work" a family business is it, the way you talk money is obviously no object for you and you are of the misconception that others are the same.
You need to get out and visit some of the people that I do, for a start there's a lot of people who have worked all their lives who are in poor living on their own and counting their pennies living in relative squalor you could do with seeing a few eye openers, then again you would make some excuse or other. |
The triple lock is unsustainable. Already it's costing three times as much as expected.
All State Benefits should be tied to the rate of inflation and nothing else. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| No more tax raises on 20:08 - Jul 16 with 505 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 19:47 - Jul 16 by Scotia |
There has been waste, genuine waste. Look at the stupid Rwanda scheme and HS2. But both were vote winners, genuine waste can only be seen in hindsight in most cases.
I'm pretty sure the Senedd chucking money at CWL airport is a waste but who knows. I think the Senedd itself is a waste but plenty would disagree.
I'm referring to the actual tax take today and how it's used to fund crucial services. I genuinely don't think there's much day to day waste, just different priorities. |
You fail to mention the Elephant in the room illegal immigration and money wasted on fanciful vanity projects like the 25million trees that were planted in bleeding Rwanda and Starmer giving the Chagos Islands back to Mauritius even against the will of the people of Chagos and he's agreed to pay them 100+ millions a year for us to use the Island as well, he's filling the 22 billion black hole alright, that black hole has got significantly deeper and yet you are saying that we all need to pay more, laughable it really is. | |
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| No more tax raises on 20:13 - Jul 16 with 500 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 20:04 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
The triple lock is unsustainable. Already it's costing three times as much as expected.
All State Benefits should be tied to the rate of inflation and nothing else. |
I'd rather see our own get it rather than it getting wasted paying for what you mentioned above and that goes without the other millions/billions wasted everywhere else. | |
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| No more tax raises on 20:22 - Jul 16 with 488 views | Dr_Winston |
| No more tax raises on 20:13 - Jul 16 by max936 |
I'd rather see our own get it rather than it getting wasted paying for what you mentioned above and that goes without the other millions/billions wasted everywhere else. |
I'd rather see those who need it get it.
Sorry Maxy, but there are plenty of our own who don't "need" a state pension guaranteed to rise by X amount every year, and quite a lot don't need one at all.
Government money is a finite resource and it needs to be shepherded far more carefully than it has been for the last 30 years. Too many vested interests at present have immobilised Westminster and left desperately trying to decide who to placate.
The last time UK Plc was being run in any way sensibly was when Ken Clarke was at the wheel. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| No more tax raises on 20:37 - Jul 16 with 478 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 20:22 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
I'd rather see those who need it get it.
Sorry Maxy, but there are plenty of our own who don't "need" a state pension guaranteed to rise by X amount every year, and quite a lot don't need one at all.
Government money is a finite resource and it needs to be shepherded far more carefully than it has been for the last 30 years. Too many vested interests at present have immobilised Westminster and left desperately trying to decide who to placate.
The last time UK Plc was being run in any way sensibly was when Ken Clarke was at the wheel. |
"I'd rather see those who need it get it.
Sorry Maxy, but there are plenty of our own who don't "need" a state pension guaranteed to rise by X amount every year, and quite a lot don't need one at all"
I don't disagree, a fair way of a means test should be used, but not the way it was done for the WFA and then reversed.
"The last time UK Plc was being run in any way sensibly was when Ken Clarke was at the wheel"
Ken Clarke and his like were actual politicians back then, we've not got their like these days unfortunately. I was a fan of John Smith but sadly for us and of course his family he passed away mid 90's, Tony Blair started well enough, but he changed. | |
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| No more tax raises on 20:42 - Jul 16 with 474 views | Dr_Winston |
| No more tax raises on 20:37 - Jul 16 by max936 |
"I'd rather see those who need it get it.
Sorry Maxy, but there are plenty of our own who don't "need" a state pension guaranteed to rise by X amount every year, and quite a lot don't need one at all"
I don't disagree, a fair way of a means test should be used, but not the way it was done for the WFA and then reversed.
"The last time UK Plc was being run in any way sensibly was when Ken Clarke was at the wheel"
Ken Clarke and his like were actual politicians back then, we've not got their like these days unfortunately. I was a fan of John Smith but sadly for us and of course his family he passed away mid 90's, Tony Blair started well enough, but he changed. |
The only sensible thing Blair did was to stick to Conservative spending plans for the first couple of years. After that the shit hit the fan.
The WFA shambles perfectly encapsulates just how out of their depth this Government is.
There's probably an element of nostalgia involved, but the quality of our elected representatives has nosedived in recent years and is the main reason why I'd pay MP's at least double what they're on now otherwise nobody capable will want to do the job. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| No more tax raises on 21:32 - Jul 16 with 448 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 20:03 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
More than £12bn a year, probably close to double that when everything is factored in, is paid in benefits to foreign nationals. Why is the UK benefit system paying non UK citizens? That's just one example. |
Because they qualify for them. That's not wastage, it's your opinion that they shouldn't get them.
It's quite likely I'd agree in many cases. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 18:52 - Jul 17 with 346 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 21:32 - Jul 16 by Scotia |
Because they qualify for them. That's not wastage, it's your opinion that they shouldn't get them.
It's quite likely I'd agree in many cases. |
Do any other countries pay benefits out like we do, to non citizens? | | | |
| No more tax raises on 22:02 - Jul 17 with 312 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 18:52 - Jul 17 by SullutaCreturned |
Do any other countries pay benefits out like we do, to non citizens? |
Yes. The entire EU as far as I know. Maybe others too. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 22:16 - Jul 17 with 305 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 21:32 - Jul 16 by Scotia |
Because they qualify for them. That's not wastage, it's your opinion that they shouldn't get them.
It's quite likely I'd agree in many cases. |
How the f can illegal immigrants qualify ? | |
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| No more tax raises on 22:26 - Jul 17 with 301 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 22:16 - Jul 17 by max936 |
How the f can illegal immigrants qualify ? |
They're not illegal. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 22:34 - Jul 17 with 298 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 22:26 - Jul 17 by Scotia |
They're not illegal. |
Of course they are, if they weren't they'd be wouldn't be flocking over here in inflatable rubber dinghies and costing the Taxpayer billions.
And you want us to pay more, incredible. [Post edited 17 Jul 22:36]
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| No more tax raises on 22:39 - Jul 17 with 289 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 22:34 - Jul 17 by max936 |
Of course they are, if they weren't they'd be wouldn't be flocking over here in inflatable rubber dinghies and costing the Taxpayer billions.
And you want us to pay more, incredible. [Post edited 17 Jul 22:36]
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What are you talking about? | | | |
| No more tax raises on 22:47 - Jul 17 with 273 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 22:39 - Jul 17 by Scotia |
What are you talking about? |
The boat people and you continually posting that we should be paying more tax etc, what can't you understand about what I've posted!?
We pay far to much in foreign aid as it is, charity begins at home we got homeless people walking around in rags an begging, why aren't these people being looked after.??
Is that clear enough, it was simple enough with my original post | |
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| No more tax raises on 22:57 - Jul 17 with 258 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 22:47 - Jul 17 by max936 |
The boat people and you continually posting that we should be paying more tax etc, what can't you understand about what I've posted!?
We pay far to much in foreign aid as it is, charity begins at home we got homeless people walking around in rags an begging, why aren't these people being looked after.??
Is that clear enough, it was simple enough with my original post |
But the post was about non British citizens being entitled to benefits?
The "boat people" are a tiny minority of these and get no more than they would have in the country they left.
Most non British citizens getting benefits are those we need and have invited here. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 10:10 - Jul 18 with 176 views | Boundy |
| No more tax raises on 20:22 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
I'd rather see those who need it get it.
Sorry Maxy, but there are plenty of our own who don't "need" a state pension guaranteed to rise by X amount every year, and quite a lot don't need one at all.
Government money is a finite resource and it needs to be shepherded far more carefully than it has been for the last 30 years. Too many vested interests at present have immobilised Westminster and left desperately trying to decide who to placate.
The last time UK Plc was being run in any way sensibly was when Ken Clarke was at the wheel. |
One problem of if as you say many do not need the state pension on reaching pension age then why should you have money taken out of your pay packet from day one only to find 40 years later you've paid into a system which will pay out to someone whose contributed zero.
I'd be pretty miffed at being sold a lie (one of many I know) and would rather pay into a private pension scheme but that's just me. | |
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| No more tax raises on 10:21 - Jul 18 with 160 views | Boundy |
| No more tax raises on 22:57 - Jul 17 by Scotia |
But the post was about non British citizens being entitled to benefits?
The "boat people" are a tiny minority of these and get no more than they would have in the country they left.
Most non British citizens getting benefits are those we need and have invited here. |
You keep repeating the same mantra about we needing these people but even the Government don't have a clue whose here and whether they're needed or not. Blair like yourself (only he had the power to do so and don't we now know it) used the same excuse as yours when he opened up the borders not just to EU member states but outside those.
You consider those who come illegally by boat, trains or aeroplanes (camels if they could) as a minor inconvenience although I wonder would you be so blaise if it was your daughter dragged into a public toilet as happened earlier this month in Bournemouth or be the catalyst for last nights riots in Epping. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| No more tax raises on 10:26 - Jul 18 with 153 views | raynor94 |
| No more tax raises on 22:57 - Jul 17 by Scotia |
But the post was about non British citizens being entitled to benefits?
The "boat people" are a tiny minority of these and get no more than they would have in the country they left.
Most non British citizens getting benefits are those we need and have invited here. |
I find your second paragraph hard to believe, I can't imagine the Taliban operating a social security system |  |
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| No more tax raises on 10:34 - Jul 18 with 145 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 10:21 - Jul 18 by Boundy |
You keep repeating the same mantra about we needing these people but even the Government don't have a clue whose here and whether they're needed or not. Blair like yourself (only he had the power to do so and don't we now know it) used the same excuse as yours when he opened up the borders not just to EU member states but outside those.
You consider those who come illegally by boat, trains or aeroplanes (camels if they could) as a minor inconvenience although I wonder would you be so blaise if it was your daughter dragged into a public toilet as happened earlier this month in Bournemouth or be the catalyst for last nights riots in Epping. |
If we don't know they're here they aren't getting benefits.
The ones who are getting benefits we've either invited to stay or we need.
The rest of that is verging on racist. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 10:37 - Jul 18 with 142 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 10:26 - Jul 18 by raynor94 |
I find your second paragraph hard to believe, I can't imagine the Taliban operating a social security system |
They didn't come in a boat from Afghanistan, they came from mainland Europe where they get basically the same benefits. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 11:08 - Jul 18 with 115 views | Boundy |
| No more tax raises on 10:34 - Jul 18 by Scotia |
If we don't know they're here they aren't getting benefits.
The ones who are getting benefits we've either invited to stay or we need.
The rest of that is verging on racist. |
What some bloke trying to travel by camel. never been to Egypt I take it or the fact that a Syrian man has been charged with attempted rape in Bournemouth earlier this month , otherwise give your "I'm offended often " head a shake and clam down. | |
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| No more tax raises on 13:55 - Jul 18 with 63 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 11:08 - Jul 18 by Boundy |
What some bloke trying to travel by camel. never been to Egypt I take it or the fact that a Syrian man has been charged with attempted rape in Bournemouth earlier this month , otherwise give your "I'm offended often " head a shake and clam down. |
It's inferring they're sex offenders is the problem. | | | |
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