| No more tax raises 17:49 - Jul 9 with 4855 views | SullutaCreturned |
No, instead we may see the personal tax allowance frozen for longer, so not extra taxes but as pay rises then more people are dragged into paying tax.
It seems like another measure to target the poorer people in society and ket the rich off the hook again. SO, will Starmer do it?
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| No more tax raises on 19:49 - Jul 11 with 636 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 19:47 - Jul 10 by trampie |
Mrs contacted them several weeks ago they have only just replied saying 'not enough evidence' , what are the other houses in the street worth they ask ?, but she had already said that we don't live in a street, we live on a lane with just one fairly close neighbour.
So the only comparison we can make is with that one neighbour. |
We challenged our council tax band and won. I took the addresses of similar properties in a large area, some nearly a mile away.
Altogether there were 4 of us in the street (all in a row) who challenged the band. 3 of us won but the other house were refused, not enough evidence. They tried sending all the evidence the rest of us gathered too.
The system is rubbish and it seems to mostly depend on the person who deals with your case. Get someone with commin sense and you're ok. Get a total numpty and you have a problem.
We got a lump sum of just over 1000 and a further 12 months at a reduced rate before going onto the correct rate. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 19:55 - Jul 11 with 624 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 19:49 - Jul 11 by SullutaCreturned |
We challenged our council tax band and won. I took the addresses of similar properties in a large area, some nearly a mile away.
Altogether there were 4 of us in the street (all in a row) who challenged the band. 3 of us won but the other house were refused, not enough evidence. They tried sending all the evidence the rest of us gathered too.
The system is rubbish and it seems to mostly depend on the person who deals with your case. Get someone with commin sense and you're ok. Get a total numpty and you have a problem.
We got a lump sum of just over 1000 and a further 12 months at a reduced rate before going onto the correct rate. |
Are you near Cae Morfa Cat? I was there Wednesday afternoon on a breakdown. |  |
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| No more tax raises on 20:06 - Jul 11 with 606 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 19:55 - Jul 11 by max936 |
Are you near Cae Morfa Cat? I was there Wednesday afternoon on a breakdown. |
Not far, about half a mile away, close to the mini roundabout on Crymlyn road. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 20:32 - Jul 11 with 588 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 20:06 - Jul 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Not far, about half a mile away, close to the mini roundabout on Crymlyn road. |
Oh right. must know a mate of mine, engineer at Llanelec. | |
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| No more tax raises on 20:36 - Jul 11 with 577 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 20:32 - Jul 11 by max936 |
Oh right. must know a mate of mine, engineer at Llanelec. |
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| No more tax raises on 01:31 - Jul 12 with 539 views | Robbie |
| No more tax raises on 09:58 - Jul 10 by Scotia |
Yes they did. A completely cynical vote winning ploy / popularity contest they knew they'd never have to justify or pay for.
The public services that Labour inherited are a joke, everything from the NHS to the surface of the roads we drive on. People can blame the Senedd and local government as much as they want, rightly so in many cases, but the money ultimately comes from Westminster.
Money needs to be spent in the correct areas. To achieve that it has to be either not spent elsewhere or taken from the taxpayer in some way. But nobody will vote for either of those. We want it all but won't pay for it.
Labour are constrained by the left who want to spend money they don't have and the Tory's won't spend the money in the first place and Reform seem to want to spend money that doesn't exist anywhere and blame immigrants for needing to spend it (they aren't the problem). If I was Starmer I'd walk to be honest.
The Welfare bill needs to be cut we need to pay more taxes and make sure the rich and business pay as much as possible.
Starting here:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7nv3pdgr4o#:~:text=The%20triple%20lock%2C% |
Why did Starmer fail and contiune to Stop the Small Boats charade he promised in his Election Manifesto , I will sort it ASAP , the last lot were useless so leave it to me .
Ditto covert NI hikes , backtracking on WFA and hid now an attack on Pensions but also sadly people have paid their taxes and dies over their working lives .
Bojo was up there as a fraud and found out in the end and another liar to boot .
Maybe Sir Kier should do the decent thing , seems his Cabinet is falling apart too .
Not an intended pun promoted by LKEA honest . | | | |
| No more tax raises on 09:50 - Jul 12 with 484 views | max936 |
Andrew D was Chairman of Skewen Rugby club at one time may still be I'm not sure, last time I saw him was in the Queens probably 2yrs ago, he's a good lad. | |
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| No more tax raises on 10:05 - Jul 12 with 475 views | max936 |
More money for this pathetically useless government to waste then it looks like, spending taxpayers hard earned money by spending billions on illegal immigrants and giving money away to other countries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9dgn647nplo | |
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| No more tax raises on 10:54 - Jul 12 with 464 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| No more tax raises on 19:41 - Jul 11 by SullutaCreturned |
The debt is not all the tories, it goes back to Blair and Brown.Until the deficit is under control the debt continues to rise.
This Labour government WILL need 2 and maybe even 3 terms to get the deficit and debt under control, if it's possible by now. For that to happen there has to be a major change and, in my opinion, we'll have to accept more tax rises, an attack on the Welsfare system as well as finding ways to get more money off the rich.
We all have to pay if we're to turn things around. It seems tho, as if the richest in society aren't willing to play their part because they're alright. That's followed by those that give the least to society because they get it all for a song.
That leaves the rest of us and we're not happy with the other 2 groups..
As long as we fight amongst ourselves, we won't fix a thing. |
Correct, many western democracies saw a large in crease in debt because of the 2008 financial crisis. Brown bailed out the banks without any recourse, UK banks are making billions while the tax payer is paying the debt or rather debt interest. Throw in the COVID nonsense and we see debt piles around the Developed World.
Our problem is that we are still adding to it, we need a complete reset, but our political system is populated by people who are small thinkers, Starmer by his training and experience is not a strategic thinker. |  |
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| No more tax raises on 11:56 - Jul 12 with 447 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 09:50 - Jul 12 by max936 |
Andrew D was Chairman of Skewen Rugby club at one time may still be I'm not sure, last time I saw him was in the Queens probably 2yrs ago, he's a good lad. |
Don't know him | | | |
| No more tax raises on 15:46 - Jul 12 with 399 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 18:09 - Jul 10 by johnlangy |
Revisit council tax. The figures are based on house valuations from 1991.
The highest in Swansea is around £5000. Out of curiosity I googled the rates in Westminster. Would you believe their highest is £4,300. For some reason we have nine bands where they have eight.
There are probably a million houses in London worth over £1 million, many over £10/20/50/100 million. Create a super band (Blind Faith anyone ? sorry, couldn't resist ).
£100 million - £50,000. Why not ? |
I missed this post, playing cathc up but here goes.
I think council tax is even more unfair than poll tax was. Why should we pay for services rendered based on the value of our houses?
We should pay for the value of the services divided by the number of people and each house then charged by the number of permanent residents.
Why a house with a single resident only gets a 25% discount when next door there could be 5 people I find disgusting.
People marched against the poll tax but we ended up with something even worse and we rolled over and took it. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 16:40 - Jul 12 with 381 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 10:54 - Jul 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Correct, many western democracies saw a large in crease in debt because of the 2008 financial crisis. Brown bailed out the banks without any recourse, UK banks are making billions while the tax payer is paying the debt or rather debt interest. Throw in the COVID nonsense and we see debt piles around the Developed World.
Our problem is that we are still adding to it, we need a complete reset, but our political system is populated by people who are small thinkers, Starmer by his training and experience is not a strategic thinker. |
I think the small thinkers are the electorate.
We expect too much and pay too little, that's the bottom line. One hint of tax increase or benefit cuts and the population and media go ballistic.
We need a bit of honesty from politicians and a reality check from those electing them. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 17:45 - Jul 12 with 355 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 16:40 - Jul 12 by Scotia |
I think the small thinkers are the electorate.
We expect too much and pay too little, that's the bottom line. One hint of tax increase or benefit cuts and the population and media go ballistic.
We need a bit of honesty from politicians and a reality check from those electing them. |
I do expect more but then, I'm willing to pay more to help it happen. I know a lot aren't tnat way inclined though.
I'd say slap an extra 2% on income tax for everybody and ringfence it to pay off the national debt. Extra payments that is, over what we already pay. Even then we'd need maybe an extra 3% on top to deal with the deficit.
So an income tax increase of 5%. You're right, people won't go for that. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 17:56 - Jul 12 with 344 views | Dr_Winston |
I think people would accept higher taxes if they got better services in return. As it stands, taxes are increasing with monotonous regularity only to disappear into a vast, massively inefficient Government spending machine.
You only have to look at the public sector productivity figures for pre and post Covid to see that there are quite a lot of people taking the absolute piss. Welfare spending is going through the roof and I'd imagine that every single poster on this board knows of at least one case of someone rinsing the system. We still have the absurd situation where people, apparently with straight faces, declare that the NHS is "underfunded" despite it being the seventh largest employer on the Planet with an annual budget of £188.5bn.
And it's not just on a National level. Most here will be paying well over a grand a year in council tax and half the time what does get put out on bin day isn't taken away. A basic council service not provided.
Government has lost control, and it doesn't look like there are any serious candidates on either side with the stones necessary to put things right again. [Post edited 12 Jul 20:35]
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| No more tax raises on 22:21 - Jul 12 with 268 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 16:40 - Jul 12 by Scotia |
I think the small thinkers are the electorate.
We expect too much and pay too little, that's the bottom line. One hint of tax increase or benefit cuts and the population and media go ballistic.
We need a bit of honesty from politicians and a reality check from those electing them. |
We pay to little by god you're a joke, This government have and still is wasting billions like those before this lot, we pay tax on our wages everything we buy the fuel we use and anything we save and they looking to rob us of even more and dullards like you want us to pay more.
You need to try doing a full days work instead of coming on here during a working day, whilst sitting at your desk looking at your multiple screens.
Honesty do you know what that even means ffs, you spend part of your day posting on here whilst you should be working whilst us in the real world with proper jobs are working hard.
You wouldn't last a morning in my world and I've got to work till I'm 67 whilst the likes of you sitting at a desk drinking coffee and talking crap are sat you desk and probably looking to retire at 60 or before, you're like these politicians utterly clueless.
The environment is in a shocking state and herbets like you are supposed to be policing it,
Go and preach your garbage to the other goons who agree with your thinking post.
Small thinkers indeed. | |
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| No more tax raises on 22:33 - Jul 12 with 263 views | SullutaCreturned |
| No more tax raises on 22:21 - Jul 12 by max936 |
We pay to little by god you're a joke, This government have and still is wasting billions like those before this lot, we pay tax on our wages everything we buy the fuel we use and anything we save and they looking to rob us of even more and dullards like you want us to pay more.
You need to try doing a full days work instead of coming on here during a working day, whilst sitting at your desk looking at your multiple screens.
Honesty do you know what that even means ffs, you spend part of your day posting on here whilst you should be working whilst us in the real world with proper jobs are working hard.
You wouldn't last a morning in my world and I've got to work till I'm 67 whilst the likes of you sitting at a desk drinking coffee and talking crap are sat you desk and probably looking to retire at 60 or before, you're like these politicians utterly clueless.
The environment is in a shocking state and herbets like you are supposed to be policing it,
Go and preach your garbage to the other goons who agree with your thinking post.
Small thinkers indeed. |
Sorry Max but if we are to make this country better we will all have to oay more. Keep going on this road and it surely leads to disaster.
The big thing is though, the government have to make everybody contribute the rich as well as the welfare scroungers, it has to encompass everyone. If people don't want to contribute to society but just want to take, we should gove them less. Either contribute or learn subsistance. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 22:49 - Jul 12 with 245 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 22:33 - Jul 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Sorry Max but if we are to make this country better we will all have to oay more. Keep going on this road and it surely leads to disaster.
The big thing is though, the government have to make everybody contribute the rich as well as the welfare scroungers, it has to encompass everyone. If people don't want to contribute to society but just want to take, we should gove them less. Either contribute or learn subsistance. |
I work fing hard for my wages and retire in just over two yrs I've been robbed enough by incompetent governments, I've worked for 48 yrs why in fing hell should people like me pay more, for governments to waste
Think about the money this fing government is giving away to people coming ILLEGALLY into our Country and the billions we are giving away to other countries and for what return, we have and continue to be conned by successive Governments even moreso by this lot of incompetent shower of shite.
OPEN YOUR EYES. [Post edited 12 Jul 22:51]
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| No more tax raises on 08:06 - Jul 13 with 198 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 22:21 - Jul 12 by max936 |
We pay to little by god you're a joke, This government have and still is wasting billions like those before this lot, we pay tax on our wages everything we buy the fuel we use and anything we save and they looking to rob us of even more and dullards like you want us to pay more.
You need to try doing a full days work instead of coming on here during a working day, whilst sitting at your desk looking at your multiple screens.
Honesty do you know what that even means ffs, you spend part of your day posting on here whilst you should be working whilst us in the real world with proper jobs are working hard.
You wouldn't last a morning in my world and I've got to work till I'm 67 whilst the likes of you sitting at a desk drinking coffee and talking crap are sat you desk and probably looking to retire at 60 or before, you're like these politicians utterly clueless.
The environment is in a shocking state and herbets like you are supposed to be policing it,
Go and preach your garbage to the other goons who agree with your thinking post.
Small thinkers indeed. |
Exactly my point.
I don't work until nearly 5pm on a Saturday in a heatwave. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 09:12 - Jul 13 with 183 views | Boundy |
| No more tax raises on 08:06 - Jul 13 by Scotia |
Exactly my point.
I don't work until nearly 5pm on a Saturday in a heatwave. |
How much will ever be enough , we pay more now for less services than 30 years ago.Your mantra always seems to be the taxpayer should pay more regardless ,how about governments and I definitely include that shower in Cardiff in this especially become accountable not after an election but during their term in office There's no recourse once they're ousted and the electorate are too thick to remember. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| No more tax raises on 09:17 - Jul 13 with 175 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 09:12 - Jul 13 by Boundy |
How much will ever be enough , we pay more now for less services than 30 years ago.Your mantra always seems to be the taxpayer should pay more regardless ,how about governments and I definitely include that shower in Cardiff in this especially become accountable not after an election but during their term in office There's no recourse once they're ousted and the electorate are too thick to remember. |
It'll be enough when public services are adequate and we're paying for them in a sustainable way.
The government and politicians are accountable now, but most people don't bother to make them accountable. | | | |
| No more tax raises on 09:33 - Jul 13 with 172 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 08:06 - Jul 13 by Scotia |
Exactly my point.
I don't work until nearly 5pm on a Saturday in a heatwave. |
It's not saturdays I'm on about, anyway are you related to Rachel Reeves you're both of the same mindset. | |
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| No more tax raises on 09:41 - Jul 13 with 166 views | max936 |
| No more tax raises on 09:12 - Jul 13 by Boundy |
How much will ever be enough , we pay more now for less services than 30 years ago.Your mantra always seems to be the taxpayer should pay more regardless ,how about governments and I definitely include that shower in Cardiff in this especially become accountable not after an election but during their term in office There's no recourse once they're ousted and the electorate are too thick to remember. |
You're talking to much sense Boundy, but as usual it goes right over the head of some they think they got all the answers see. | |
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| No more tax raises on 09:53 - Jul 13 with 156 views | raynor94 |
| No more tax raises on 09:12 - Jul 13 by Boundy |
How much will ever be enough , we pay more now for less services than 30 years ago.Your mantra always seems to be the taxpayer should pay more regardless ,how about governments and I definitely include that shower in Cardiff in this especially become accountable not after an election but during their term in office There's no recourse once they're ousted and the electorate are too thick to remember. |
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| No more tax raises on 10:08 - Jul 13 with 137 views | Scotia |
| No more tax raises on 09:41 - Jul 13 by max936 |
You're talking to much sense Boundy, but as usual it goes right over the head of some they think they got all the answers see. |
Haven't you said that you don't vote? | | | |
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