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No more tax raises 17:49 - Jul 9 with 7374 viewsSullutaCreturned

No, instead we may see the personal tax allowance frozen for longer, so not extra taxes but as pay rises then more people are dragged into paying tax.

It seems like another measure to target the poorer people in society and ket the rich off the hook again. SO, will Starmer do it?

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No more tax raises on 14:17 - Jul 18 with 926 viewsBoundy

No more tax raises on 13:55 - Jul 18 by Scotia

It's inferring they're sex offenders is the problem.


inference is not a crime nor racist so would you care to revisit your previous post .Yes I agree sex offenders are a problem , we already have enough so why allow more to arrive .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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No more tax raises on 14:28 - Jul 18 with 901 viewsScotia

No more tax raises on 14:17 - Jul 18 by Boundy

inference is not a crime nor racist so would you care to revisit your previous post .Yes I agree sex offenders are a problem , we already have enough so why allow more to arrive .


No. It's racist.
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No more tax raises on 15:03 - Jul 18 with 879 viewsraynor94

No more tax raises on 10:37 - Jul 18 by Scotia

They didn't come in a boat from Afghanistan, they came from mainland Europe where they get basically the same benefits.


Apologies I miss read your post

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No more tax raises on 17:03 - Jul 18 with 839 viewsBoundy

No more tax raises on 14:28 - Jul 18 by Scotia

No. It's racist.


OK

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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No more tax raises on 17:56 - Jul 18 with 808 viewsSullutaCreturned

No more tax raises on 22:02 - Jul 17 by Scotia

Yes. The entire EU as far as I know. Maybe others too.


As far as you know?

Maybe thus thread needs more facts then.

France pays out ADA of approx 6.8 euros per day to a single asylum seeker, if you don't claim asylum you get nothing.

The real problem is the number of asylum seekers and how long they are allowed to remain here. Som are here so long in the end they are just allowed to remain for no better reason than they've been here ages. Then they start bringing family in too.

It's more about an incompetent, useless government than it is about immigrants. That is our problem, whichever party we elect, they are useless.

Time for change, it's become a cliche.
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No more tax raises on 18:30 - Jul 18 with 799 viewsmax936

No more tax raises on 22:57 - Jul 17 by Scotia

But the post was about non British citizens being entitled to benefits?

The "boat people" are a tiny minority of these and get no more than they would have in the country they left.

Most non British citizens getting benefits are those we need and have invited here.


How do you know they are needed and if they are needed then they must be here working, that being the case why would they need benefits and if not working why are they needed and why are we paying out benefits to people who haven't contributed after "being invited here" you made that up either that or you are deluded.

You must spend a hell of a lot of time on these subjects, especially when you are working in a different sector that must command a lot of work considering the mess the environment is in.?

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No more tax raises on 18:34 - Jul 18 with 789 viewsmax936

No more tax raises on 13:55 - Jul 18 by Scotia

It's inferring they're sex offenders is the problem.


Well the one mentioned seems to be one and he's not the first either.

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No more tax raises on 19:47 - Jul 18 with 749 viewsScotia

No more tax raises on 17:56 - Jul 18 by SullutaCreturned

As far as you know?

Maybe thus thread needs more facts then.

France pays out ADA of approx 6.8 euros per day to a single asylum seeker, if you don't claim asylum you get nothing.

The real problem is the number of asylum seekers and how long they are allowed to remain here. Som are here so long in the end they are just allowed to remain for no better reason than they've been here ages. Then they start bringing family in too.

It's more about an incompetent, useless government than it is about immigrants. That is our problem, whichever party we elect, they are useless.

Time for change, it's become a cliche.


This is about non British/EU citizens and benefits. Not just asylum seekers. We pay £49 a week to a single asylum seeker. It's basically the same.

The problem is the number and it has to be reduced as quickly as possible. I honestly think we're trying to do that.
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No more tax raises on 19:51 - Jul 18 with 747 viewsScotia

No more tax raises on 18:30 - Jul 18 by max936

How do you know they are needed and if they are needed then they must be here working, that being the case why would they need benefits and if not working why are they needed and why are we paying out benefits to people who haven't contributed after "being invited here" you made that up either that or you are deluded.

You must spend a hell of a lot of time on these subjects, especially when you are working in a different sector that must command a lot of work considering the mess the environment is in.?

[Post edited 18 Jul 18:55]


Yep they're working. Or studying and paying a fortune for the privilege.

Illegal immigrants and asylum seekers are different and a minority

They need and qualify for the same benefits as British citizens if they're in low paid jobs and the vast majority are.

Of course they're invited here, we need their labour or cash.
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No more tax raises on 20:20 - Jul 18 with 727 viewsmax936

No more tax raises on 19:51 - Jul 18 by Scotia

Yep they're working. Or studying and paying a fortune for the privilege.

Illegal immigrants and asylum seekers are different and a minority

They need and qualify for the same benefits as British citizens if they're in low paid jobs and the vast majority are.

Of course they're invited here, we need their labour or cash.


Well I'm happy to give my support to those people, it's not even an argument.

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No more tax raises on 20:26 - Jul 18 with 723 viewsSullutaCreturned

No more tax raises on 18:30 - Jul 18 by max936

How do you know they are needed and if they are needed then they must be here working, that being the case why would they need benefits and if not working why are they needed and why are we paying out benefits to people who haven't contributed after "being invited here" you made that up either that or you are deluded.

You must spend a hell of a lot of time on these subjects, especially when you are working in a different sector that must command a lot of work considering the mess the environment is in.?

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If they are working abd getting benefits it's for the same reasons as anybody else, they are low paid in a system propagated by governments and their rich friends. We subsidise corporate greed and use tax payers money to enable corporations to pay low wages whilst the people towards the top get massive wages and eye watering bonuses, the people who do the hard work to make those profits not being considered worthy ebnbough to be paid a living wage.

You can't claim any benefits until you claim asylum. If any illegal enttant to this country isn't claiming benefits and working, they are working illegally.
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No more tax raises on 23:34 - Jul 18 with 688 viewsDJack

No more tax raises on 20:26 - Jul 18 by SullutaCreturned

If they are working abd getting benefits it's for the same reasons as anybody else, they are low paid in a system propagated by governments and their rich friends. We subsidise corporate greed and use tax payers money to enable corporations to pay low wages whilst the people towards the top get massive wages and eye watering bonuses, the people who do the hard work to make those profits not being considered worthy ebnbough to be paid a living wage.

You can't claim any benefits until you claim asylum. If any illegal enttant to this country isn't claiming benefits and working, they are working illegally.


This.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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No more tax raises on 23:40 - Jul 18 with 684 viewsmax936

No more tax raises on 20:26 - Jul 18 by SullutaCreturned

If they are working abd getting benefits it's for the same reasons as anybody else, they are low paid in a system propagated by governments and their rich friends. We subsidise corporate greed and use tax payers money to enable corporations to pay low wages whilst the people towards the top get massive wages and eye watering bonuses, the people who do the hard work to make those profits not being considered worthy ebnbough to be paid a living wage.

You can't claim any benefits until you claim asylum. If any illegal enttant to this country isn't claiming benefits and working, they are working illegally.


You missed or completely ignored my post above this one of yours then .

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No more tax raises on 12:23 - Jul 19 with 606 viewsSullutaCreturned

No more tax raises on 23:34 - Jul 18 by DJack

This.


And now I'm going to order some new qwerty keyboard sticker letters
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No more tax raises on 12:24 - Jul 19 with 604 viewsSullutaCreturned

No more tax raises on 23:40 - Jul 18 by max936

You missed or completely ignored my post above this one of yours then .


Shit happens, just ask Doube doube
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No more tax raises on 13:03 - Jul 19 with 578 viewsmax936

No more tax raises on 12:24 - Jul 19 by SullutaCreturned

Shit happens, just ask Doube doube


It often happens to you though

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No more tax raises on 18:54 - Jul 19 with 536 viewsSullutaCreturned

No more tax raises on 13:03 - Jul 19 by max936

It often happens to you though


I think we're in the same boat there though
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No more tax raises on 22:13 - Jul 22 with 457 viewsfelixstowe_jack

No more tax raises on 20:26 - Jul 18 by SullutaCreturned

If they are working abd getting benefits it's for the same reasons as anybody else, they are low paid in a system propagated by governments and their rich friends. We subsidise corporate greed and use tax payers money to enable corporations to pay low wages whilst the people towards the top get massive wages and eye watering bonuses, the people who do the hard work to make those profits not being considered worthy ebnbough to be paid a living wage.

You can't claim any benefits until you claim asylum. If any illegal enttant to this country isn't claiming benefits and working, they are working illegally.


They still get free accommodation, food, health care and free education for their children while wating for their "bogus" asylum claims to be processed. Most are just economic migrants living off the tax paid by hard working UK taxpayers.

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No more tax raises on 06:26 - Jul 23 with 397 viewsScotia

No more tax raises on 22:13 - Jul 22 by felixstowe_jack

They still get free accommodation, food, health care and free education for their children while wating for their "bogus" asylum claims to be processed. Most are just economic migrants living off the tax paid by hard working UK taxpayers.


Which is exactly what they could have got in France, pretty much to the penny.

Makes you wonder why they're so desperate to come here? Sort that out and we may be able to reduce their number.
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No more tax raises on 06:34 - Jul 23 with 391 viewsScotia

No more tax raises on 20:26 - Jul 18 by SullutaCreturned

If they are working abd getting benefits it's for the same reasons as anybody else, they are low paid in a system propagated by governments and their rich friends. We subsidise corporate greed and use tax payers money to enable corporations to pay low wages whilst the people towards the top get massive wages and eye watering bonuses, the people who do the hard work to make those profits not being considered worthy ebnbough to be paid a living wage.

You can't claim any benefits until you claim asylum. If any illegal enttant to this country isn't claiming benefits and working, they are working illegally.


Most getting the highest level of benefits, such as Universal credit, get it because they are EU immigrants who have a right to remain after Brexit and are in poorly paid jobs.

I agree with a lot of the rest of that but that's capitalism for you.
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No more tax raises on 20:45 - Jul 23 with 306 viewsSullutaCreturned

No more tax raises on 22:13 - Jul 22 by felixstowe_jack

They still get free accommodation, food, health care and free education for their children while wating for their "bogus" asylum claims to be processed. Most are just economic migrants living off the tax paid by hard working UK taxpayers.


They're not all bogus though. The faukt lies in useless governments that underfunded the system and so created the backlog that has caused the current and historical problems. It goes baclk beyond the tories too.

These people who come here with "bogus" claims, they think the UK is a pit of gold at the end of the rainbow. We have to change that, tell them the truth.
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No more tax raises on 12:44 - Aug 6 with 188 viewsDr_Winston

Seems to have become loads of tax rises.

Labour have turned a non existent "£22bn black hole!" Into an actual £50bn one. Forget being the worst government of my lifetime, they're in the running for being the worst in history.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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No more tax raises on 14:43 - Aug 6 with 138 viewsWhiterockin

No more tax raises on 12:44 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston

Seems to have become loads of tax rises.

Labour have turned a non existent "£22bn black hole!" Into an actual £50bn one. Forget being the worst government of my lifetime, they're in the running for being the worst in history.


There is going to be one hell of a mess when they are thrown out. Frying pan and fire come to mind. It's very easy to run the country when in opposition as this lot have found out.
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No more tax raises on 14:53 - Aug 6 with 123 viewsonehunglow

At least the Tories lie with some front
Labour simple liars whilst looking earnest
Harold Wilson ... now what a brilliant liar

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