| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... 10:17 - Jul 21 with 1623 views | theloneranger |
"A national inquiry will be held into one of the most violent days of the year-long miners' strike in the 1980s, the government has announced.
The inquiry would look into the clash that involved police and miners outside the Orgreave coking plant in Rotherham on 18 June 1984.
The incident, which became known as the Battle of Orgreave, involved miners from across Britain converging on the plant to try to disrupt deliveries, but they were met with force by thousands of police officers."
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 11:47 - Jul 21 with 1177 views | onehunglow |
Oh good
Noticed on JA what will be a flood of hate speech
Just what was needed |  |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 12:11 - Jul 21 with 1168 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The country is run by the legal profession for the benefit of the legal profession. These things produce massive documents that hardly anyone reads.
If there is a tight budget and a time limit fair enough but it rarely happens.
We know the police were a bit rough with the miners but all the men involved are now retired or dead. [Post edited 21 Jul 12:13]
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 12:16 - Jul 21 with 1141 views | onehunglow |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 12:11 - Jul 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The country is run by the legal profession for the benefit of the legal profession. These things produce massive documents that hardly anyone reads.
If there is a tight budget and a time limit fair enough but it rarely happens.
We know the police were a bit rough with the miners but all the men involved are now retired or dead. [Post edited 21 Jul 12:13]
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At that time, this country was in a fractious state
Working miners intimidated into not going into work
Their wives and kids hounded by miners from neighbouring counties and ostracised by striking miners on their local community
Hatred has been passed down as is obvious
41 yrs later , we get this | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 12:25 - Jul 21 with 1150 views | Flashberryjack |
Lawyers filling up the food trough, other than that, a pointless waste of public funds. |  |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 13:01 - Jul 21 with 1116 views | theloneranger |
.... "In 2016, the then Home Secretary Amber Rudd rejected calls for an inquiry into events at Orgreave, saying it would not be in the public interest." ...
Many witnesses from Orgreave have said the Conservatives didn't want the inquiry - because of the involvement of military personnel, illegally masquerading as police officers. | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 13:31 - Jul 21 with 1062 views | onehunglow |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 13:01 - Jul 21 by theloneranger |
.... "In 2016, the then Home Secretary Amber Rudd rejected calls for an inquiry into events at Orgreave, saying it would not be in the public interest." ...
Many witnesses from Orgreave have said the Conservatives didn't want the inquiry - because of the involvement of military personnel, illegally masquerading as police officers. |
You will note the different tone on JA
This strike ripped communities apart
It's never fully healed
Now we see this cynical ploy to ensure Labour voters don't vote reform on Sheffield
Same thinking in lowering voting age
This is another pay day for lawyers , like Starmer | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 14:45 - Jul 21 with 995 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 13:31 - Jul 21 by onehunglow |
You will note the different tone on JA
This strike ripped communities apart
It's never fully healed
Now we see this cynical ploy to ensure Labour voters don't vote reform on Sheffield
Same thinking in lowering voting age
This is another pay day for lawyers , like Starmer |
I do see it as political, Blair and Brown had plenty of time to do something with this, it may backfire in turning Tory voters towards Reform. |  |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:03 - Jul 21 with 976 views | onehunglow |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 14:45 - Jul 21 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I do see it as political, Blair and Brown had plenty of time to do something with this, it may backfire in turning Tory voters towards Reform. |
I have never known a time in my life when politicians were so perfidious
Last bunch of Tories were bad but this lot do it with aplomb ,utterly shameless | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:32 - Jul 21 with 956 views | Whiterockin |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:03 - Jul 21 by onehunglow |
I have never known a time in my life when politicians were so perfidious
Last bunch of Tories were bad but this lot do it with aplomb ,utterly shameless |
Thy think the voting public are thick, we are not and can see through everything they do. The Conservatives were voted out and Labour will be voted out firstly in the Senedd then Westminster. We are not getting fooled. |  | | |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:45 - Jul 21 with 948 views | pete |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:32 - Jul 21 by Whiterockin |
Thy think the voting public are thick, we are not and can see through everything they do. The Conservatives were voted out and Labour will be voted out firstly in the Senedd then Westminster. We are not getting fooled. |
lets hope the people of uk do not fall for the farage party as he will be led by trump | | | |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:57 - Jul 21 with 907 views | Whiterockin |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 15:45 - Jul 21 by pete |
lets hope the people of uk do not fall for the farage party as he will be led by trump |
One way or another Trump will be gone before the next GE. | | | |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 17:02 - Jul 21 with 842 views | trampie |
The 84 strike in the South Wales valleys was the most solid anywhere in the UK, they were clearly made of stern stuff. |  |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 18:44 - Jul 21 with 764 views | raynor94 |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 17:02 - Jul 21 by trampie |
The 84 strike in the South Wales valleys was the most solid anywhere in the UK, they were clearly made of stern stuff. |
Pity Scargill wasn't Lions led by donkeys |  |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 20:14 - Jul 21 with 695 views | onehunglow |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 18:44 - Jul 21 by raynor94 |
Pity Scargill wasn't Lions led by donkeys |
Shall we have an enquiry bout Asian grooming gangs ? No
Shall we have one about a strike forty one years later
We are being taken for fools
Old hate still abounds though | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 22:31 - Jul 21 with 622 views | trampie |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 18:44 - Jul 21 by raynor94 |
Pity Scargill wasn't Lions led by donkeys |
Welsh miners should have had nothing to do with Scargill, Scargill was English. | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 23:42 - Jul 21 with 583 views | Boundy |
Looking at some of the scenes recently at the Epping protests reminded me of Orgreave.Dark days then and maybe more ahead. | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 23:52 - Jul 21 with 578 views | majorraglan |
The inquiry was a Labour Party manifesto commitment.
There are claims that the military were deployed to Orgreave dressed as police officers, whether that is fact or urban myth I don’t know but the tales have continued over the years.
“The inquiry, expected to launch in the autumn, will investigate the events surrounding clashes at the Orgreave Coking Plant in 1984, causing 120 injuries. In total, 95 picketers were arrested and initially charged with riot and violent disorder, but all charges were later dropped after evidence was discredited.”
A total of 95 people were arrested and Charged with riot and violent disorder - these are very serious offences. All the charges were subsequently dropped after the evidence was discredited. What’s all that about? Are they saying the 95 people were “fitted up?” Were SYP incompetent or something else not right?
My take on things is that there are questions to be answered and concerns in need of investigating, but these should have been actioned years ago. A limited enquiry is appropriate, but not one that goes on for years and years and delivers the sum total of nothing.
The 1980’s were nt particularly great years for South Yorkshire Police as we saw with Hillsborough. A concise limited enquiry is, in my opinion a reasonable course of action, I do not want to see an enormous public enquiry that becomes a gravy train for solicitors etc take place. [Post edited 22 Jul 0:01]
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 00:55 - Jul 22 with 544 views | theloneranger |
"Joe Diviney, a historian at the University of Sheffield who is researching a PhD on the Orgreave events, pointed out that this appeared clearly to be the PC Martin incident. Martin was identified, including in police documents, as the officer who struck Broomhead, and a report was sent to the DPP who decided, on the same day Martin was interviewed, not to bring charges."
"During an interview under caution, Martin denied wrongdoing, and said of the Orgreave policing: “It’s not a case of me going off half cock. The senior officers, supers and chief supers were there and getting stuck in too – they were encouraging the lads and I think their attitude to the situation affected what we all did.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/19/orgreave-papers-destroyed-by-po | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 06:25 - Jul 22 with 486 views | 1983 |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 23:52 - Jul 21 by majorraglan |
The inquiry was a Labour Party manifesto commitment.
There are claims that the military were deployed to Orgreave dressed as police officers, whether that is fact or urban myth I don’t know but the tales have continued over the years.
“The inquiry, expected to launch in the autumn, will investigate the events surrounding clashes at the Orgreave Coking Plant in 1984, causing 120 injuries. In total, 95 picketers were arrested and initially charged with riot and violent disorder, but all charges were later dropped after evidence was discredited.”
A total of 95 people were arrested and Charged with riot and violent disorder - these are very serious offences. All the charges were subsequently dropped after the evidence was discredited. What’s all that about? Are they saying the 95 people were “fitted up?” Were SYP incompetent or something else not right?
My take on things is that there are questions to be answered and concerns in need of investigating, but these should have been actioned years ago. A limited enquiry is appropriate, but not one that goes on for years and years and delivers the sum total of nothing.
The 1980’s were nt particularly great years for South Yorkshire Police as we saw with Hillsborough. A concise limited enquiry is, in my opinion a reasonable course of action, I do not want to see an enormous public enquiry that becomes a gravy train for solicitors etc take place. [Post edited 22 Jul 0:01]
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My wife's ex was a copper up there and she said the government were throwing money at the coppers to go up there extra for this extra for that.
An inquiry what's the point it's dead in the water move on spend the money on more important issues. |  |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 07:51 - Jul 22 with 431 views | raynor94 |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 22:31 - Jul 21 by trampie |
Welsh miners should have had nothing to do with Scargill, Scargill was English. |
What has Scargill's nationality got to do with it? Although it's typical of you, it was a National strike called by the NUM and voted for by mine workers throughout the UK | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 08:03 - Jul 22 with 419 views | Whiterockin |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 07:51 - Jul 22 by raynor94 |
What has Scargill's nationality got to do with it? Although it's typical of you, it was a National strike called by the NUM and voted for by mine workers throughout the UK |
Didn't all the Welsh mine workers vote to support Scargill. | | | |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 08:12 - Jul 22 with 398 views | DoubeDoube |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 22:31 - Jul 21 by trampie |
Welsh miners should have had nothing to do with Scargill, Scargill was English. |
I was there. Don't believe all you read about Scargill, |  | | |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 09:06 - Jul 22 with 360 views | raynor94 |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 08:03 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin |
Didn't all the Welsh mine workers vote to support Scargill. |
Yes they did, but as time moved on it showed up to be an ill thought out strategy from Scargill who was obsessed in fetching Maggie down | |
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| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 09:15 - Jul 22 with 351 views | DoubeDoube |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 09:06 - Jul 22 by raynor94 |
Yes they did, but as time moved on it showed up to be an ill thought out strategy from Scargill who was obsessed in fetching Maggie down |
Again, don't believe the narrative | | | |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 09:16 - Jul 22 with 343 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Battle of Orgreave national inquiry confirmed ... on 22:31 - Jul 21 by trampie |
Welsh miners should have had nothing to do with Scargill, Scargill was English. |
Unfortunately the miners were never given a vote on holding a strike. The NUM lead by the idiot Scargill called the miners out. It was a National UK strike and of course the Welsh miners supported it not sure why you claim Welsh miners had nothing to do with Scargill they supported him. | |
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