| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... 17:06 - Aug 19 with 9511 views | theloneranger |
"Asylum seekers are due to be removed from an Essex hotel after a council was granted a temporary High Court injunction blocking them from being housed there."
"The injunction was sought by Epping Forest District Council to stop migrants being placed at The Bell Hotel in Epping, which is owned by Somani Hotels Limited."
"Mr Justice Eyre made his judgement after refusing an 11th-hour effort from Home Secretary Yvette Cooper to get the council's case dismissed."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy98gdnrl7lo |  |
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 16:02 - Aug 20 with 1737 views | controversial_jack |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 13:49 - Aug 20 by Boundy |
Educate yourself . |
At the height of hotel use, in June 2023, 51,000 asylum seekers were housed in more than 400 hotels across the UK, costing the Home Office £8 million a day. By March 2025, this had fallen to 32,345 asylum seekers in 218 hotels. |  | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 18:19 - Aug 20 with 1674 views | AnotherJohn |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 16:02 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack |
At the height of hotel use, in June 2023, 51,000 asylum seekers were housed in more than 400 hotels across the UK, costing the Home Office £8 million a day. By March 2025, this had fallen to 32,345 asylum seekers in 218 hotels. |
One thing to bear in mind is that these are the figures for Home Office funded hotels. Once asylum seekers get refugee status, those who cannot support themselves become the responsibility of local authorities. Some LAs are also putting refugees in hotels. We need to see those figures too before we conclude that the trend is positive. The other point is that the number in Home Office hotels seems to be rising again. The June figures will be out soon. | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 19:13 - Aug 20 with 1634 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 18:19 - Aug 20 by AnotherJohn |
One thing to bear in mind is that these are the figures for Home Office funded hotels. Once asylum seekers get refugee status, those who cannot support themselves become the responsibility of local authorities. Some LAs are also putting refugees in hotels. We need to see those figures too before we conclude that the trend is positive. The other point is that the number in Home Office hotels seems to be rising again. The June figures will be out soon. |
A good point well made. |  |
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 19:17 - Aug 20 with 1615 views | Whiterockin |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 18:19 - Aug 20 by AnotherJohn |
One thing to bear in mind is that these are the figures for Home Office funded hotels. Once asylum seekers get refugee status, those who cannot support themselves become the responsibility of local authorities. Some LAs are also putting refugees in hotels. We need to see those figures too before we conclude that the trend is positive. The other point is that the number in Home Office hotels seems to be rising again. The June figures will be out soon. |
Plus there is no point including the cost from 2023 and not 2025. |  | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:46 - Aug 20 with 1583 views | Scotia |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 18:19 - Aug 20 by AnotherJohn |
One thing to bear in mind is that these are the figures for Home Office funded hotels. Once asylum seekers get refugee status, those who cannot support themselves become the responsibility of local authorities. Some LAs are also putting refugees in hotels. We need to see those figures too before we conclude that the trend is positive. The other point is that the number in Home Office hotels seems to be rising again. The June figures will be out soon. |
A very different scenario though a refugee doesn't automatically get somewhere to live, an asylum seeker does. A refugee is allowed to work, an asylum seeker isn't.
All the more reason we need to process asylum claimants asap and send those we can home.
The silver bullet to this though is to stop them wanting to come here in the first place. | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:50 - Aug 20 with 1570 views | AnotherJohn |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:46 - Aug 20 by Scotia |
A very different scenario though a refugee doesn't automatically get somewhere to live, an asylum seeker does. A refugee is allowed to work, an asylum seeker isn't.
All the more reason we need to process asylum claimants asap and send those we can home.
The silver bullet to this though is to stop them wanting to come here in the first place. |
Not sure how that changes the point about the total number and cost of recent migrants in hotels. | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:59 - Aug 20 with 1537 views | Scotia |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:50 - Aug 20 by AnotherJohn |
Not sure how that changes the point about the total number and cost of recent migrants in hotels. |
Of course it does an asylum seeker has to be housed. A refugee doesn't. | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 21:23 - Aug 20 with 1504 views | Flashberryjack |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:59 - Aug 20 by Scotia |
Of course it does an asylum seeker has to be housed. A refugee doesn't. |
What's the difference ? |  |
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 21:23 - Aug 20 with 1504 views | controversial_jack |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 18:19 - Aug 20 by AnotherJohn |
One thing to bear in mind is that these are the figures for Home Office funded hotels. Once asylum seekers get refugee status, those who cannot support themselves become the responsibility of local authorities. Some LAs are also putting refugees in hotels. We need to see those figures too before we conclude that the trend is positive. The other point is that the number in Home Office hotels seems to be rising again. The June figures will be out soon. |
No it's come down significantly, from over 400 under the last govt to 213 now [Post edited 20 Aug 21:27]
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 01:41 - Aug 21 with 1457 views | Robbie |
Hotel owner who give up their tenancy agreements to allow the Home Office access to their property as given a contract up till 2029 , we will fund you for your loss of income .
Wow , give me a pen and where do I sign please .
Daily Express yes , reckons we have chucked another £ 500 million at Iraq to stop the small boats , thanks for the hand out UK .
Last time I looked on a map Iraq was not near the English Channel . | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 04:50 - Aug 21 with 1435 views | Scotia |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 21:23 - Aug 20 by Flashberryjack |
What's the difference ? |
Between what? | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 05:22 - Aug 21 with 1425 views | Scotia |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 16:02 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack |
At the height of hotel use, in June 2023, 51,000 asylum seekers were housed in more than 400 hotels across the UK, costing the Home Office £8 million a day. By March 2025, this had fallen to 32,345 asylum seekers in 218 hotels. |
BBC News - Badenoch encourages Tory councils to challenge asylum hotels
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy0j9n4qzwo
And then the Tories come out with this. The party who drew up the 10 year binding contract 6 years ago. And this utter moron stated this on live TV 3 years ago.
https://news.sky.com/video/robert-jenrick-on-hotels-in-2022-in-response-to-overc
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 10:11 - Aug 21 with 1332 views | AnotherJohn |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 21:23 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack |
No it's come down significantly, from over 400 under the last govt to 213 now [Post edited 20 Aug 21:27]
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June figures now out show a 8% rise in the number of asylum seekers in Home Office funded hotels in Labour's first year in power. The number of hotels is down but number of occupants is up.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/asylum-hotel-numbers-up-8-on-last-
As mentioned above, this takes no account of hotels paid for by councils, which I would venture to guess has increased, given the way so many migrants have been waved through to refugee status and will not be able to find their own accommodation.
Scotia doesn't seem to want to address the question of the total number of hotel places financed from public funds. Talk about obfuscation! [Post edited 21 Aug 10:16]
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 12:04 - Aug 21 with 1281 views | onehunglow |
They fooked it up and we were looking to Labour to sort it out
Yeah baby
Trust Yvette though
Innit
Redistribute the wealth
Tax the “ rich”
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 13:25 - Aug 21 with 1230 views | AnotherJohn |
Another interesting snippet in the Home Office figures just released concerns deportations (note this not the same as removals). In the last year of the Tory government the number was 2516, while 2,330 people have been deported during Labour's first full year in office.
It looks like Jackmanandboy had a point about spin.
NOTE:
Digging a bit deeper, beyond the newspaper article these figures came from, I have found that these numbers relate to "small boat returns", which are not the same as total deportations (as they are just for channel crossers and may include some voluntary or other administrative returns). In fact the Home Office statistics release only contains the category "enforced returns", only some of which are deportations in the technical sense. So it is as you were; the Home Office leaves a bit of ambiguity around its statistics. [Post edited 21 Aug 16:25]
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 14:21 - Aug 21 with 1193 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 13:25 - Aug 21 by AnotherJohn |
Another interesting snippet in the Home Office figures just released concerns deportations (note this not the same as removals). In the last year of the Tory government the number was 2516, while 2,330 people have been deported during Labour's first full year in office.
It looks like Jackmanandboy had a point about spin.
NOTE:
Digging a bit deeper, beyond the newspaper article these figures came from, I have found that these numbers relate to "small boat returns", which are not the same as total deportations (as they are just for channel crossers and may include some voluntary or other administrative returns). In fact the Home Office statistics release only contains the category "enforced returns", only some of which are deportations in the technical sense. So it is as you were; the Home Office leaves a bit of ambiguity around its statistics. [Post edited 21 Aug 16:25]
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Sadly you have to both think around and double check all Government figures these days.
When Sunak tried the same trick in Parliament he had to go back and address the record.
Ministers in the current Government are now quoting the same misleading figure to the media!
As you stated another way of misleading the public is to focus on the number of asylum seekers in hotels and ignore the number grated asylum that are being housed by local authorities in hotels.
The misuse of data is becoming normal practice in Government, sadly journalists do not bother or do not know how to interpret data which is a dereliction of duty in a liberal democracy. The press should be holding the Government to account but it is now dominated by those wanting to express an opinion rather than investigate the issues. [Post edited 21 Aug 14:29]
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 14:46 - Aug 21 with 1158 views | 1983 |
Just drove along part of the M27 and went under about 12 over bridges and they all had union jacks & st george flags tie wrapped to them, obviously a thing now |  |
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 14:59 - Aug 21 with 1121 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 14:46 - Aug 21 by 1983 |
Just drove along part of the M27 and went under about 12 over bridges and they all had union jacks & st george flags tie wrapped to them, obviously a thing now |
A great example of how things work these days, a council decides to take down some English flags as it seems them "inappropriate". This reported in the media and prompts people thinking the original decision was nonsense to stick up more flags! | |
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 15:55 - Aug 21 with 1063 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 14:59 - Aug 21 by JACKMANANDBOY |
A great example of how things work these days, a council decides to take down some English flags as it seems them "inappropriate". This reported in the media and prompts people thinking the original decision was nonsense to stick up more flags! |
Read the other day that a roundabout in Birmingham that had been daubed with the St George’s cross was immediately cleaned up by the council the next day so now the local residents have decided to put St George’s crosses in potholes and on the rubbish to get them fixed for a change.
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 16:28 - Aug 21 with 1039 views | AnotherJohn |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 15:55 - Aug 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Read the other day that a roundabout in Birmingham that had been daubed with the St George’s cross was immediately cleaned up by the council the next day so now the local residents have decided to put St George’s crosses in potholes and on the rubbish to get them fixed for a change.
I thought it was funny 😂 |
That brought a smile to my face when I saw the news story too. | | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 17:28 - Aug 21 with 989 views | EagleEye |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 20:59 - Aug 20 by Scotia |
Of course it does an asylum seeker has to be housed. A refugee doesn't. |
Guy goes down my local pub has 3 multi- occupancy houses in Brynmill. Home office has guaranteed him rent via a contract for the next 3 years & full house restoration after that period. Don’t know if the occupants are classed as refugees or asylum seekers. What I do know is that if you are paying tax you are paying for them to be housed there. |  | | |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 17:52 - Aug 21 with 963 views | Boundy |
During the Queens' reign on special royal occasions ( and for the current King) whole streets had their kerb stones painted red white & blue and bunting stretched across roads tied to lamp posts ,in fact encouraged to so with no interference from the law ,now they're saying it could be criminal damage and their "investigating" , they cant be bothered to turn up for a burglary or sometimes assaults but now you splash a bit of red paint the whole division descends upon you. | |
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| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 18:12 - Aug 21 with 942 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Court rules asylum seekers must be moved from hotel ... on 17:52 - Aug 21 by Boundy |
During the Queens' reign on special royal occasions ( and for the current King) whole streets had their kerb stones painted red white & blue and bunting stretched across roads tied to lamp posts ,in fact encouraged to so with no interference from the law ,now they're saying it could be criminal damage and their "investigating" , they cant be bothered to turn up for a burglary or sometimes assaults but now you splash a bit of red paint the whole division descends upon you. |
This is probably the only country in the world where flying your own flag is seen as problematic or inherently bad.
The lunatics have really taken over the last few decades. | |
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