| Sam Field 19:48 - Aug 19 with 2909 views | connell10 |
I think he is a decent player, I can't understand the stick some people give him. |  |
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| Sam Field on 07:44 - Aug 20 with 1006 views | Jevlar |
Whenever we endure a bad run, Field is often highlighted. When we go on a good run, he’s rarely mentioned. He lacks the skill set of a Faurlin but as Field the Shield he’s a vital player and one of the first names on the sheet for me.
He’s also, unusually for a QPR player, regularly available. In 4 years he’s played 153 games, this means he’s been there through the occasionally good and mostly bad.
Anyone alongside Madsen in a midfield 2 would struggle. |  | | |
| Sam Field on 07:49 - Aug 20 with 973 views | JamesB1979 |
| Sam Field on 21:02 - Aug 19 by BazzaInTheLoft |
No idea.
But search their names on social media and you’ll see what I mean. |
I guess you mean twitter. As someone said on a qpr podcast, “not everyone on twitter is an idiot, but all idiots are on twitter.”
I don’t use it so can’t check but also doesn’t surprise me. Fans at games, the club and the coach rate him, so I doubt he cares. |  | | |
| Sam Field on 08:50 - Aug 20 with 846 views | slmrstid |
| Sam Field on 07:44 - Aug 20 by Jevlar |
Whenever we endure a bad run, Field is often highlighted. When we go on a good run, he’s rarely mentioned. He lacks the skill set of a Faurlin but as Field the Shield he’s a vital player and one of the first names on the sheet for me.
He’s also, unusually for a QPR player, regularly available. In 4 years he’s played 153 games, this means he’s been there through the occasionally good and mostly bad.
Anyone alongside Madsen in a midfield 2 would struggle. |
To use that as the example, Sam Field is the Shaun Derry of that partnership. Whether you rate him to be as good for us as Shaun Derry was is open to debate, but at the same time Derry was so good because he did his shield bit and was able to give the ball to Faurlin / Taarabt to do the magic, let alone then the likes of Tommy Smith/Wayne Routledge/Jamie Mackie out wide.
Poor Sam has never had that level of quality to work with at QPR. If he did his role as the Shield would be a hell of a lot more appreciated. |  | | |
| Sam Field on 09:07 - Aug 20 with 802 views | Blue_Castello |
| Sam Field on 23:20 - Aug 19 by ParkRoyalR |
Sarcasm being the lowest firm of wit heh,
A bloke who cost next to nothing, who has kept us in this Division for how many seasons, who gives 100% from the 1st to the 90 minutes is undeserving of this snidey diatribe. |
Exactly the snidey remarks are a pain in the a**e, Field has been an incredibly important player for us in ensuring we are not playing in League one, some may not be bothered but financially it would have been a disaster.
Field first and foremost is a defensive midfielder, thats exactly the player we bought and he's done his job very well, just remember he played a considerable amount of games alongside Dozzell who went missing in action and Sam was doing the job of two people.
As somebody else posted he needs to be playing alongside a more creative progressive player, it's not his fault Managers are pushing him further forward, it's for the so called Head Coach to sort out.
Basically he was hung out to dry again asking him to play in a 2 alongside Madsen, he will look considerably better alongside Varane. [Post edited 20 Aug 9:11]
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| Sam Field on 09:09 - Aug 20 with 794 views | WestbourneR |
| Sam Field on 21:08 - Aug 19 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Personally I love the way he breaks the line with his forward passing ability, threading the ball through the opposition defence. The way he has mastered the turning circle of an oil tanker truly is a marvel to behold, putting Johann Cruyff to shame. Kids will aspire to learn the Field Turn for decades to come.
These skills pale into insignificance with how he responds to the crowds shout of 'TURN' when he recieves the ball facing his own goal. Ignoring it completely and sending the ball straight back to where it came from has taken seasons to master.
This free scoring assist machine is an essential cog in the current dynamic QPR central midfield. |
This is like (sarcastically) saying you loved Paul Scholes for his tackling and heading. You're totally missing the point of the position they're designed to play.
In Sam Field's case it's holding defensive midfield. Yes he has some serious limitations but he also has great strengths - his mentality being one of them.
Besides, I'd take the opinion of someone who didn't rate Eze with a pinch of salt. |  |
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| Sam Field on 09:10 - Aug 20 with 790 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Sam Field on 08:50 - Aug 20 by slmrstid |
To use that as the example, Sam Field is the Shaun Derry of that partnership. Whether you rate him to be as good for us as Shaun Derry was is open to debate, but at the same time Derry was so good because he did his shield bit and was able to give the ball to Faurlin / Taarabt to do the magic, let alone then the likes of Tommy Smith/Wayne Routledge/Jamie Mackie out wide.
Poor Sam has never had that level of quality to work with at QPR. If he did his role as the Shield would be a hell of a lot more appreciated. |
Great post. Shaun Derry m’lord had a fantastic team all around him whereas Field has played in a truly pisspoor side. Big difference. |  |
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| Sam Field on 09:35 - Aug 20 with 724 views | Jevlar |
| Sam Field on 09:10 - Aug 20 by Northolt_Rs |
Great post. Shaun Derry m’lord had a fantastic team all around him whereas Field has played in a truly pisspoor side. Big difference. |
Both great posts. Yours Northolt and the one you’re referring to.
Field has never had anyone alongside to let him solely focus on doing all the defensive work he is great at and because of his willingness and availability and our squads constant deficiencies in midfield he’s being asked to do more than he probably should have been.
Despite the positive signings it’s amazing at the lack of central midfield options we have. | | | |
| Sam Field on 12:50 - Aug 20 with 516 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Sam Field on 09:09 - Aug 20 by WestbourneR |
This is like (sarcastically) saying you loved Paul Scholes for his tackling and heading. You're totally missing the point of the position they're designed to play.
In Sam Field's case it's holding defensive midfield. Yes he has some serious limitations but he also has great strengths - his mentality being one of them.
Besides, I'd take the opinion of someone who didn't rate Eze with a pinch of salt. |
OK a few things with that response.
Defensive midfielders in the modern game should be your most creative midfielder as all the moves start with him. The 6 should set the direction and pace of the attack. Field isn't creative, hence the ball always go back. He has no vision or creativity. Zero assists proves that from last season.
When did I not rate Eze? Did I think he would play for a top side? No I didn't and he hasn't. Point proved so far on that (Spurs are not a top side if he moves there).
What I would point out regarding the negative feedback to my original post is that no one has said its not true. The evidence is on the pitch with his poor passing, limited goals and nonexistent assists. Feel free to provide evidence on those points to the contrary.
I would point out that I'm not blaming Field, merely he is unsuited for the QPR midfield going forward as the club is going in a different direction. If Varane goes 6, Field can't play 8 as proved in his poor performances in the first two games. | |
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| Sam Field on 13:05 - Aug 20 with 487 views | golborne |
| Sam Field on 08:50 - Aug 20 by slmrstid |
To use that as the example, Sam Field is the Shaun Derry of that partnership. Whether you rate him to be as good for us as Shaun Derry was is open to debate, but at the same time Derry was so good because he did his shield bit and was able to give the ball to Faurlin / Taarabt to do the magic, let alone then the likes of Tommy Smith/Wayne Routledge/Jamie Mackie out wide.
Poor Sam has never had that level of quality to work with at QPR. If he did his role as the Shield would be a hell of a lot more appreciated. |
I only have one criticism of Sam, but unfortunately it’s a big one. He mostly cant gain control of a football without several touches, meaning he has no choice but to go backwards, as the oppo have already gained 5 yards on him. Have said for years, cant he be kept back post training for somebody to keep firing the ball into feet for 20 mins. Asking a professional footballer to do that when they’re 7-8 years into their professional career might not go down well, but we can all improve and practice makes perfect.
As for the person who said we’re much worse without him. Look back at the hopeful season when the wheels came off for Warburton. We were doing pretty well and eyeing the playoff in the first 3-4 months. Sam Field’s season started against Stoke at home in December. So desperate was MB to get him back in the team, he played left wing back. Within weeks Steph had been shifted forward and out of DM and replaced by Sam. All progression to move the ball through the lines was lost and we turned into a team who played it into midfield and back again and around again. I love Sam and his heart, but trapping and controlling a ball is a basic every player needs, especially professional ones | | | |
| Sam Field on 13:12 - Aug 20 with 447 views | RBlock |
| Sam Field on 12:50 - Aug 20 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK a few things with that response.
Defensive midfielders in the modern game should be your most creative midfielder as all the moves start with him. The 6 should set the direction and pace of the attack. Field isn't creative, hence the ball always go back. He has no vision or creativity. Zero assists proves that from last season.
When did I not rate Eze? Did I think he would play for a top side? No I didn't and he hasn't. Point proved so far on that (Spurs are not a top side if he moves there).
What I would point out regarding the negative feedback to my original post is that no one has said its not true. The evidence is on the pitch with his poor passing, limited goals and nonexistent assists. Feel free to provide evidence on those points to the contrary.
I would point out that I'm not blaming Field, merely he is unsuited for the QPR midfield going forward as the club is going in a different direction. If Varane goes 6, Field can't play 8 as proved in his poor performances in the first two games. |
"Defensive midfielders in the modern game should be your most creative midfielder"
I think that's a bit reductive personally - there are countless ways you can set up a team to play, using various profiles in different positions. Warnock's 4-2-3-1 with Derry and Faurlin having differing and complimentary roles in that midfield, a good example. Klopp's first version of the title winning Liverpool side had their most creative player at RB and clogged his midfield with ball-winners who would cover ground and counter-press in Fabinho, Henderson, Milner, Winjaldum, and nobody would accuse them of not being a modern football team. |  | | |
| Sam Field on 13:15 - Aug 20 with 424 views | WestbourneR |
| Sam Field on 12:50 - Aug 20 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK a few things with that response.
Defensive midfielders in the modern game should be your most creative midfielder as all the moves start with him. The 6 should set the direction and pace of the attack. Field isn't creative, hence the ball always go back. He has no vision or creativity. Zero assists proves that from last season.
When did I not rate Eze? Did I think he would play for a top side? No I didn't and he hasn't. Point proved so far on that (Spurs are not a top side if he moves there).
What I would point out regarding the negative feedback to my original post is that no one has said its not true. The evidence is on the pitch with his poor passing, limited goals and nonexistent assists. Feel free to provide evidence on those points to the contrary.
I would point out that I'm not blaming Field, merely he is unsuited for the QPR midfield going forward as the club is going in a different direction. If Varane goes 6, Field can't play 8 as proved in his poor performances in the first two games. |
Yeah he's just got multiple England caps, is worth £50M to £60M and is moving to a club in the Champions League.
But based your own private definition of 'top' you called Eze absolutely right. Hmmm. Ok.
Sam Field tackles, covers and leads. He is almost ever present. Additionally when playing well, he passes ball, if not imaginatively, but proficiently out from the back. We miss him badly when he doesn't play.
I prefer to focus on the great value he's brought to us, a lower to mid table Championship team, than whether he should in fact be a Premier League level DMC with the attributes of Pirlo. We're not shopping in that market. | |
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| Sam Field on 16:47 - Aug 20 with 195 views | hantssi |
| Sam Field on 12:50 - Aug 20 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK a few things with that response.
Defensive midfielders in the modern game should be your most creative midfielder as all the moves start with him. The 6 should set the direction and pace of the attack. Field isn't creative, hence the ball always go back. He has no vision or creativity. Zero assists proves that from last season.
When did I not rate Eze? Did I think he would play for a top side? No I didn't and he hasn't. Point proved so far on that (Spurs are not a top side if he moves there).
What I would point out regarding the negative feedback to my original post is that no one has said its not true. The evidence is on the pitch with his poor passing, limited goals and nonexistent assists. Feel free to provide evidence on those points to the contrary.
I would point out that I'm not blaming Field, merely he is unsuited for the QPR midfield going forward as the club is going in a different direction. If Varane goes 6, Field can't play 8 as proved in his poor performances in the first two games. |
Your defensive midfielder should be your most creative midfielder?!
I’ll have some of what you’ve been drinking! | | | |
| Sam Field on 16:48 - Aug 20 with 194 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Sam Field on 07:49 - Aug 20 by JamesB1979 |
I guess you mean twitter. As someone said on a qpr podcast, “not everyone on twitter is an idiot, but all idiots are on twitter.”
I don’t use it so can’t check but also doesn’t surprise me. Fans at games, the club and the coach rate him, so I doubt he cares. |
No, it’s multiple platforms.
I see some of admins on other platforms have had to address the issue. I suspect it’s just the usual nauses who have been around for years. [Post edited 20 Aug 16:51]
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| Sam Field on 17:02 - Aug 20 with 151 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Sam Field on 16:48 - Aug 20 by BazzaInTheLoft |
No, it’s multiple platforms.
I see some of admins on other platforms have had to address the issue. I suspect it’s just the usual nauses who have been around for years. [Post edited 20 Aug 16:51]
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I doubt this is coming from anyone at the club, why would you want to devalue assets like Smyth or Shield?
This is just gaining momentum from kids, who want everything to be "fire" or "cook"
An average player trying hard just doesn't do it for their tiny minds.
Most people understand the value of hard work in a team, its why Jamie Mackie was so popular.
The consensus is that you wouldn't fill a team out of plodders, but having a couple in key positions means that you get that consistency which is key in a long season. Hopefully if we can put some flair next to Shield it will take some of the spotlight off of him.
Personally i'd love to see a mixture of Shield and Madsen and Varanne in one player, but if we had that he'd be playing for a top 6 club in the Champions League.
I don't think Sam Field is the biggest problem with the 25/26 squad by a long way |  | | |
| Sam Field on 17:03 - Aug 20 with 142 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Sam Field on 17:02 - Aug 20 by nick_hammersmith |
I doubt this is coming from anyone at the club, why would you want to devalue assets like Smyth or Shield?
This is just gaining momentum from kids, who want everything to be "fire" or "cook"
An average player trying hard just doesn't do it for their tiny minds.
Most people understand the value of hard work in a team, its why Jamie Mackie was so popular.
The consensus is that you wouldn't fill a team out of plodders, but having a couple in key positions means that you get that consistency which is key in a long season. Hopefully if we can put some flair next to Shield it will take some of the spotlight off of him.
Personally i'd love to see a mixture of Shield and Madsen and Varanne in one player, but if we had that he'd be playing for a top 6 club in the Champions League.
I don't think Sam Field is the biggest problem with the 25/26 squad by a long way |
I never said it was from someone at the club, but yeah agree with that. [Post edited 20 Aug 19:07]
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