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All impressive strikes, but it’s a friendly so is the intensity and pace what it is in the Championship or will be in Bundesliga 2? Also, what formation to Fortuna play? I doubt it’s 4231. He might be a decent forward, but not as a lone striker, IMO. Begs the question why we signed him for that role.
And FWIW, Bundesliga 2 is weaker than the Championship.
Get in the sea with your common sense and balanced postings, don’t you know this is prime moaning fodder for, er something.
CELAR OUT
joking aside , agree with above post in that I hope the move works out for him, he never seemed settled with us
I'm glad to see some acceptance that a player who had a very decent record at a good level (and plays international football for a half-way decent international side) might not actually be utter sh*te just because he struggled to make an impact in a very poor QPR side.
I'm not even convinced that he's incapable of playing in the Championship, but I do think he did not fit the capabilities of our team at the time. He had just shown that he might do a job for us in the two games before his injury, but I think Kone and Burrell are both better options for us and a loan with a view to a sale is the right way to go.
Largely I think it is "on us" (or at least on Nourry, or whoever was responsible for last year's transfer window) but if the rumours of him not settling in London are true then I think a bit of that is on him - maybe he should have done a bit of research, it's not as though London is an obscure place.
For his sake and most importantly for the sake of the club, I wish him a very, very successful loan spell leading to a sale.
He's not going to come back here and be first choice...or even third choice at this point. I don't see how he comes back to be a part of this group. We gave him the chances in the Championship and it just didn't work for us or for him in this league.
I'm glad to see some acceptance that a player who had a very decent record at a good level (and plays international football for a half-way decent international side) might not actually be utter sh*te just because he struggled to make an impact in a very poor QPR side.
I'm not even convinced that he's incapable of playing in the Championship, but I do think he did not fit the capabilities of our team at the time. He had just shown that he might do a job for us in the two games before his injury, but I think Kone and Burrell are both better options for us and a loan with a view to a sale is the right way to go.
Largely I think it is "on us" (or at least on Nourry, or whoever was responsible for last year's transfer window) but if the rumours of him not settling in London are true then I think a bit of that is on him - maybe he should have done a bit of research, it's not as though London is an obscure place.
Let's not over-egg the international angle. Slovenia are ranked 50th in the world and Celar has scored no senior goals in 17 appearances.
Likewise, the Swiss Super League is ranked 21st in Europe.
Celar suffered from being the wrong player in the wrong team. It would be unfair to say Kone or Burrell are replacements for him because neither of them play remotely similar games to him. Burrell's all-action style and Kone's brutal hold-up play are just so much better for us than his 6 yard box shtick.
I don't hold any antipathy towards him - he just wasn't anything we needed.
'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'
Let's not over-egg the international angle. Slovenia are ranked 50th in the world and Celar has scored no senior goals in 17 appearances.
Likewise, the Swiss Super League is ranked 21st in Europe.
I agree that we shouldn't overstate it, but 50th is about ten places better than either the Republic of Ireland or NI and just a couple below Scotland and Romania. They drew 2-2 with Sweden the other day and a few year's back they came to Wembley and only lost to a Harry Kane goal in the 94th minute.
It's not setting anything on fire, but it's not rubbish either.
(The rankings also are a bit harsh on European sides (and Latin American ones) IMO because they all play each other a lot - Iran are currently 20th and Egypt are 34, which I suspect is due to them playing a load of rubbish Middle Eastern sides a lot of the time.)
All impressive strikes, but it’s a friendly so is the intensity and pace what it is in the Championship or will be in Bundesliga 2? Also, what formation to Fortuna play? I doubt it’s 4231. He might be a decent forward, but not as a lone striker, IMO. Begs the question why we signed him for that role.
And FWIW, Bundesliga 2 is weaker than the Championship.
Agree with that Hunter, albeit two of the strikes were well taken free kicks which would probably have been difficult to defend in any league.
I think, we have accepted that signing him was a mistake and learned from it. Perhaps, we were keen to sell Kelman, and replace him with Kone, as his game is similar to Celar's whereas Kone is much more suited to the lone striker role.
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