| Ongoing situation in the western world 11:44 - Aug 26 with 2180 views | mangohilljack |
Can anyone explain what is wrong with raising your own nation’s flag within your own country?
Why is it that so many people now feel uncomfortable about openly expressing patriotism?
In England, the Union Jack and the St George’s Cross are often vilified, even labelled as symbols of racism — yet the Palestinian flag is flown freely without question.
What exactly is the establishment playing at?
They must realise that this approach will provoke anger and division among the public. Are they deliberately fostering tensions that could escalate into wider unrest?
Is this part of a longer-term plan to justify measures such as martial law, digital IDs, or widespread facial recognition surveillance?
Never in my lifetime have I witnessed a government appear so opposed to its own citizens — a government seemingly intent on provoking outrage rather than unity.
I genuinely want to understand: can anyone provide a logical explanation for why this is happening? |  | | |  |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 12:13 - Aug 26 with 1581 views | Demitrius |
No simple single answer but as I see it it's all part of a long game among the political elites to erase Western nationalism more pronounced in the UK because of the insidious slow creep of leftists into our infrastructure and institutions and a desire to atone for some imagined post-colonial guilt.
In reading about the Carnival I came across this gem from some half-wit celeb called Big Zuu whoever the hell he is and demonstrates the mind virus of loathing your country:
“We have got these idiots putting up English flags. We’re all British, we are part of Britain, this is a multicultural country."
Which is why nobody is objecting to your Jamaican, Guyana, Trinidad etc etc flags on the streets of Notting Hill and Ladbroke Grove but you scream oppression when the actual official flag of the UK or England of which London is the capital is flown by those born under it... |  |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:29 - Aug 26 with 1458 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
in Flags are out for special occasions but have always been banned. Indians and Pakistan Greek and Turks Armenians and Turks French and Algeria Germany and Isreal. USA and Iran. Afghanistan and Iran. Shia Sunni Alevi all have flags. Azerbijan and Armenia
UK has been a place where people who fight each other in the heritage home leave all that behind. In north London Arabs and Jews live and work together and politics is left behind.
This is the liberal UK. We are not interested in where you are from notionally just get on with you life work and be happy.
Agitators are frowned a upon. People like Sean Yaxley.
UK apologised for it's imperial excesses and moved on.
Flag were associated with football louts not ordinary people. The St George's flag superceded the Union flag after199&6 Euros. In 1966 England co opted the Union flag.
Flag waving is a sign of insecurity. The population realises Brexit was a horrible error of judgement.. |  |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:43 - Aug 26 with 1432 views | onehunglow |
Can’t think of a post I’ve agreed with more
I think it’s because of the guilt felt over our colonial past
Many former colonial countries feel the same way | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:46 - Aug 26 with 1415 views | YrAlarch |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:29 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
in Flags are out for special occasions but have always been banned. Indians and Pakistan Greek and Turks Armenians and Turks French and Algeria Germany and Isreal. USA and Iran. Afghanistan and Iran. Shia Sunni Alevi all have flags. Azerbijan and Armenia
UK has been a place where people who fight each other in the heritage home leave all that behind. In north London Arabs and Jews live and work together and politics is left behind.
This is the liberal UK. We are not interested in where you are from notionally just get on with you life work and be happy.
Agitators are frowned a upon. People like Sean Yaxley.
UK apologised for it's imperial excesses and moved on.
Flag were associated with football louts not ordinary people. The St George's flag superceded the Union flag after199&6 Euros. In 1966 England co opted the Union flag.
Flag waving is a sign of insecurity. The population realises Brexit was a horrible error of judgement.. |
Flag 'waving' is not a sign of insecurity it is a sign of belonging, a sign of patriotism. | | | |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:05 - Aug 26 with 1280 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:46 - Aug 26 by YrAlarch |
Flag 'waving' is not a sign of insecurity it is a sign of belonging, a sign of patriotism. |
Not on this current atmosphere. People are fearful of an alien invasion. Out strength of Christian liberalism has served us well but now does not work.. in order the protect our borders and culture we are obliged to be unreasonable. Our laws are all about " Being reasonable" .
UK would need to treat the migrant badly to discourage them. Australia learn this as did Italy with Lapadusa.
Rwanda was unreasonable and would have worked .UK law banned it. "Smash the gangs" was laughable.
There is a feeling of anger and impotence. We are trapped by our Christian liberal values migrants will exploit. The Coast Guard work for the smugglers on order to avoid drownings. A drop in charitable income might affect their thing. The Royal Navy would just speed thing s up for the smugglers. The authorities allegedly give the boat engines and life jackets back to the French. This is corrupt if true. Are they sold or just gifted?
It looks like a slick illegal business operation with possible kickbacks on both sides of the channel it seems to me. Euros make things work. Everyone is happy including lawyers.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/26/nigel-farage-plan-deport-asylum [Post edited 26 Aug 18:19]
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:41 - Aug 26 with 1241 views | Boundy |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:05 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not on this current atmosphere. People are fearful of an alien invasion. Out strength of Christian liberalism has served us well but now does not work.. in order the protect our borders and culture we are obliged to be unreasonable. Our laws are all about " Being reasonable" .
UK would need to treat the migrant badly to discourage them. Australia learn this as did Italy with Lapadusa.
Rwanda was unreasonable and would have worked .UK law banned it. "Smash the gangs" was laughable.
There is a feeling of anger and impotence. We are trapped by our Christian liberal values migrants will exploit. The Coast Guard work for the smugglers on order to avoid drownings. A drop in charitable income might affect their thing. The Royal Navy would just speed thing s up for the smugglers. The authorities allegedly give the boat engines and life jackets back to the French. This is corrupt if true. Are they sold or just gifted?
It looks like a slick illegal business operation with possible kickbacks on both sides of the channel it seems to me. Euros make things work. Everyone is happy including lawyers.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/26/nigel-farage-plan-deport-asylum [Post edited 26 Aug 18:19]
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Fearful of an alien invasion ,nah you've got it wrong ,its the scroungers ,the no hopers the thieves, liars and killers they 're fearful of .People are fearful of the country they grew up in ,the one that aligns with their philosophies of how they'd like to live their lives is being destroyed culturally and socially . | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 20:37 - Aug 26 with 1195 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:41 - Aug 26 by Boundy |
Fearful of an alien invasion ,nah you've got it wrong ,its the scroungers ,the no hopers the thieves, liars and killers they 're fearful of .People are fearful of the country they grew up in ,the one that aligns with their philosophies of how they'd like to live their lives is being destroyed culturally and socially . |
Same thing effectively. There are criminals in a cross section of all populations. The percentage is higher of course as many may be fugitives.
One bleeding heart gave a case of a refugee needing refuge from money lenders in Mexico. Effectively running away from debt and bad financial management. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 10:09 - Aug 27 with 1032 views | Boundy |
Perhaps Labour ( on being true to their word ,something I still find funny whenever I hear one of them saying it) could do as so many Labour councils have done is get the illegals to paint a St Georges cross on their chests ,that would be one way of getting them removed. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 10:31 - Aug 27 with 1005 views | onehunglow |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:41 - Aug 26 by Boundy |
Fearful of an alien invasion ,nah you've got it wrong ,its the scroungers ,the no hopers the thieves, liars and killers they 're fearful of .People are fearful of the country they grew up in ,the one that aligns with their philosophies of how they'd like to live their lives is being destroyed culturally and socially . |
Some post that Boundy boy | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 11:20 - Aug 27 with 981 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:41 - Aug 26 by Boundy |
Fearful of an alien invasion ,nah you've got it wrong ,its the scroungers ,the no hopers the thieves, liars and killers they 're fearful of .People are fearful of the country they grew up in ,the one that aligns with their philosophies of how they'd like to live their lives is being destroyed culturally and socially . |
There’s also the inherent unfairness of the situation where one group of people have to struggle, working their arse off and budget and make sacrifices and get taxed through the eyeballs so they can pay for other people to rock up and be given everything for free.
It is inevitable it will cause resentment.
People wouldn’t mind paying it if it were going towards people who genuinely need it, we had that situation for decades. Now it’s just handed out to any chancer or scoundrel no questions asked. |  |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 11:54 - Aug 27 with 956 views | onehunglow |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 11:20 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There’s also the inherent unfairness of the situation where one group of people have to struggle, working their arse off and budget and make sacrifices and get taxed through the eyeballs so they can pay for other people to rock up and be given everything for free.
It is inevitable it will cause resentment.
People wouldn’t mind paying it if it were going towards people who genuinely need it, we had that situation for decades. Now it’s just handed out to any chancer or scoundrel no questions asked. |
And we face increase taxes to pay for those chancers from God knows where
Who’s paying for their lawyers
Heard one yesterday on telly and felt like throwing up
We are actually encouraging them to come here
It’s social suicide
It’s plain wrong | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 12:44 - Aug 27 with 930 views | Demitrius |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 11:20 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There’s also the inherent unfairness of the situation where one group of people have to struggle, working their arse off and budget and make sacrifices and get taxed through the eyeballs so they can pay for other people to rock up and be given everything for free.
It is inevitable it will cause resentment.
People wouldn’t mind paying it if it were going towards people who genuinely need it, we had that situation for decades. Now it’s just handed out to any chancer or scoundrel no questions asked. |
To be fair - genuine refugees need to be paid for by the UN via a central fund - the fact that hosting nations should fork out for their personal upkeep is a racket in itself. £111m we pay annually for the 'privilege' of taking in any waif and stray - rapist or victim - is fecking ludicrous as the net cost is far in excess to the tune of billions of this as we all know....
....and we wonder why we all feel poor as a result despite being a first world nation...?
You couldn't make this nonsense up... | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:02 - Aug 27 with 922 views | onehunglow |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 12:44 - Aug 27 by Demitrius |
To be fair - genuine refugees need to be paid for by the UN via a central fund - the fact that hosting nations should fork out for their personal upkeep is a racket in itself. £111m we pay annually for the 'privilege' of taking in any waif and stray - rapist or victim - is fecking ludicrous as the net cost is far in excess to the tune of billions of this as we all know....
....and we wonder why we all feel poor as a result despite being a first world nation...?
You couldn't make this nonsense up... |
Genuine refugees should welcomed
Hungarians justified through USSR
Zimbabweans through bother Bob
Ukrainians through nurderous Putin and Russians | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:27 - Aug 27 with 900 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:02 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
Genuine refugees should welcomed
Hungarians justified through USSR
Zimbabweans through bother Bob
Ukrainians through nurderous Putin and Russians |
The question is not whether you are eligible as billions possibly are, but limits and criteria we apply and are able to absorb.
Migration is decided by us not smugglers or natural processes.. I read Poland did not accept Muslims. How they are not hauled over the coals by the EU I do not know.. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:30 - Aug 27 with 898 views | Boundy |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 10:31 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
Some post that Boundy boy |
Its just how I and many others see things. Why are folk fearful of living their everyday lives ,now seemingly unprotected from a few who would do them harm. Not every muslin is a jihadist of course not but you don't need to be an extremist to create fear and division where before there was none.
We in Wales are in bubble, a bubble which is shrinking either by design or accident but either way the social fabric is being torn by those who have no right to be in the country but supported by those who believe they should be. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:47 - Aug 27 with 882 views | onehunglow |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:30 - Aug 27 by Boundy |
Its just how I and many others see things. Why are folk fearful of living their everyday lives ,now seemingly unprotected from a few who would do them harm. Not every muslin is a jihadist of course not but you don't need to be an extremist to create fear and division where before there was none.
We in Wales are in bubble, a bubble which is shrinking either by design or accident but either way the social fabric is being torn by those who have no right to be in the country but supported by those who believe they should be. |
Wirral is very “ white” and not very multi cultural at all
One mosque in Birkenhead for a population of 320,000
That’s it
The Muslim folks here are primarily shopkeepers and doctors
Care workers from Caribbean and Philippines God bless em
It’s a great place ! | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 15:04 - Aug 27 with 848 views | Boundy |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 13:47 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
Wirral is very “ white” and not very multi cultural at all
One mosque in Birkenhead for a population of 320,000
That’s it
The Muslim folks here are primarily shopkeepers and doctors
Care workers from Caribbean and Philippines God bless em
It’s a great place ! |
and so it should be a "great " place , I know the area through my past employment , not with any deep rooted knowledge but looking at the environment. Long may it continue and as well, I can say the same for where I live and wouldn't go anywhere else other than in Swansea. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 01:43 - Aug 28 with 751 views | DJack |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 11:20 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There’s also the inherent unfairness of the situation where one group of people have to struggle, working their arse off and budget and make sacrifices and get taxed through the eyeballs so they can pay for other people to rock up and be given everything for free.
It is inevitable it will cause resentment.
People wouldn’t mind paying it if it were going towards people who genuinely need it, we had that situation for decades. Now it’s just handed out to any chancer or scoundrel no questions asked. |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 08:37 - Aug 28 with 691 views | 1983 |
Showing support of a flag, any flag is showing you are part of a group if "they" dont want you to be part of that group then it's wrong! We have less freedom now than ever. |  |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 09:48 - Aug 28 with 656 views | Boundy |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 01:43 - Aug 28 by DJack |
What have you got against Townhill? |
That's a bit derogatory towards the folk on the Hill . I would imagine even in the leafy glades of Bishopston there's a few screwing the system, you could also delete/insert to suit the locality. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:33 - Aug 30 with 481 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:43 - Aug 26 by onehunglow |
Can’t think of a post I’ve agreed with more
I think it’s because of the guilt felt over our colonial past
Many former colonial countries feel the same way |
Thing is pretty much every country in the world has been both colonialists and colonised at some point. The americas had the Mayan empire, the Aztec empire, the Inca empire, the tiwanaku centuries before the Spanish got there. How do we think they built these empires without colonialism?
Some of the world’s worst and most brutal empires were in Africa. The Ashanti empire was hell on earth for many with much of the worlds slaves being rounded up and sold in Kumasi. It was only the arrival of the British empire that put a stop to it.
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:47 - Aug 30 with 465 views | DJack |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 09:48 - Aug 28 by Boundy |
That's a bit derogatory towards the folk on the Hill . I would imagine even in the leafy glades of Bishopston there's a few screwing the system, you could also delete/insert to suit the locality. |
It was a tongue in cheek post, buddy. Additionally your reply highlights the truth I was getting at... we are demonising "others" whilst ignoring our home grown issues. | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 16:45 - Aug 30 with 434 views | onehunglow |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 14:33 - Aug 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Thing is pretty much every country in the world has been both colonialists and colonised at some point. The americas had the Mayan empire, the Aztec empire, the Inca empire, the tiwanaku centuries before the Spanish got there. How do we think they built these empires without colonialism?
Some of the world’s worst and most brutal empires were in Africa. The Ashanti empire was hell on earth for many with much of the worlds slaves being rounded up and sold in Kumasi. It was only the arrival of the British empire that put a stop to it.
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Yes but the nasty white European colonialisers invaded black and brown lands | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 17:57 - Aug 30 with 397 views | Demitrius |
"ALL".....of our so called elected bodies work for 3rd party globalist interests.
Once you realise this it explains nearly everything..
It's been going on for 30-40 years....
Yes, it's depressing but going forward with your eyes open, well there's hope in that...
Thankfully people are cottoning on to this fecking racket and pushing back... | |
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| Ongoing situation in the western world on 18:05 - Aug 30 with 375 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Ongoing situation in the western world on 17:57 - Aug 30 by Demitrius |
"ALL".....of our so called elected bodies work for 3rd party globalist interests.
Once you realise this it explains nearly everything..
It's been going on for 30-40 years....
Yes, it's depressing but going forward with your eyes open, well there's hope in that...
Thankfully people are cottoning on to this fecking racket and pushing back... |
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