| Generational unemployment 11:03 - Aug 27 with 1529 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
https://nation.cymru/news/nearly-half-the-working-age-population-of-one-district
This is v why the immigrants are accommodated in four star hotels.
Eluned supported the disability benefits reforms rebellion and at the same time stated we need migrants for things like the NHS.
Brexit was supposed to free up jobs but Brits do not want them. Eluned said Wales was disproportionately affected by the reforms due to our "post industrial heritage".
We now have "generational unemployment" all paid for by borrowing.
We need a leader ready to get people back to work not making excuses and telling foreigners we have plenty of jobs to do many in the untaxed sector.
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| Generational unemployment on 11:52 - Aug 27 with 1486 views | onehunglow |
Have to say, an excellent post
Absolutely on the money [Post edited 27 Aug 12:54]
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| Generational unemployment on 12:43 - Aug 27 with 1453 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
We are indeed borrowing at record levels and have record levels of benefits to working age people, sooner or later it will hit the fan. My guess is that the indecisive Starmer will fiddle around the edges and make things worse.
Working people are picking up an increasing tax bill and we are borrowing more at the same time. |  |
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| Generational unemployment on 17:12 - Aug 27 with 1381 views | SullutaCreturned |
Labour want people on benefits because that demographic votes for them. Same as Labour wanted to lower the voting age because that demographic also votes for them.
Who will immigranst vote for, the party that wants Wales to be a nation of sanctuary or the party that says they will ship off 600k of them?
It's been massove social engineering cum gerrymandering. Labour aren't looking after the people, they are looking after themselves. Self serving, selfish, greedy politicians. | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 18:50 - Aug 27 with 1341 views | majorraglan |
We do need migrants for the NHS because in South West Wales we have shortages of nurses, doctors, surgeons and consultants and the only way services can be sustained is via overseas recruiting. We also have a fair few overseas healthcare workers who are the spouses of the overseas nurses.
Unfortunately there are jobs that many Brits do not want to do, nursing, care and the manufacturing of food. Some of these need skills, however some don’t and it’s quite simply a case of people can’t be asked because their life on benefits is too easy and too rewarding. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I saw a feature in a “newspaper” the other day about a mother of 3 whinging she couldn’t cope on £2.1k benefits per month. Just what the @@@@ is that all about, someone who’s working has to earn £38K Pa to take him £2.1k per month AND then they have to pay bills, mortgage etc, it’s a lot more if you want to earn that amount in your pocket after expenditure like the single mum.
We need work to pay and for benefits to be a short term measure to support people through a difficult period, benefits need to be capped and time limited. When you’re on benefits there’d be an expectation you’re either in training or doing community service to upskill yourself ready for work. Once the period is up that’s it. I’d also make it a case that if you haven’t paid in for at least 3 years you can’t take anything out.
To be fair to Starmer, I’m not his biggest fan but he tried to make some inroads into the benefits culture and reduce expenditure and his MP’s and others failed to back him and he was roundly critisced.
If Farage gets in, it’ll be interesting to see what he does because he’s promised huge cuts in public spending and tax cuts for workers. Given that the main expenditures are benefits, pensions and the NHS it’s going to cause some pain somewhere.
There are thousands of food factories in the U.K. staffed with migrant workers who have good work ethics because British people won’t work in them for just above minimum wage coz they all want to be influencers! We need a big shift in mindset and people need to be forced off their backsides. [Post edited 28 Aug 6:52]
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| Generational unemployment on 20:17 - Aug 27 with 1295 views | Luther27 |
| Generational unemployment on 18:50 - Aug 27 by majorraglan |
We do need migrants for the NHS because in South West Wales we have shortages of nurses, doctors, surgeons and consultants and the only way services can be sustained is via overseas recruiting. We also have a fair few overseas healthcare workers who are the spouses of the overseas nurses.
Unfortunately there are jobs that many Brits do not want to do, nursing, care and the manufacturing of food. Some of these need skills, however some don’t and it’s quite simply a case of people can’t be asked because their life on benefits is too easy and too rewarding. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I saw a feature in a “newspaper” the other day about a mother of 3 whinging she couldn’t cope on £2.1k benefits per month. Just what the @@@@ is that all about, someone who’s working has to earn £38K Pa to take him £2.1k per month AND then they have to pay bills, mortgage etc, it’s a lot more if you want to earn that amount in your pocket after expenditure like the single mum.
We need work to pay and for benefits to be a short term measure to support people through a difficult period, benefits need to be capped and time limited. When you’re on benefits there’d be an expectation you’re either in training or doing community service to upskill yourself ready for work. Once the period is up that’s it. I’d also make it a case that if you haven’t paid in for at least 3 years you can’t take anything out.
To be fair to Starmer, I’m not his biggest fan but he tried to make some inroads into the benefits culture and reduce expenditure and his MP’s and others failed to back him and he was roundly critisced.
If Farage gets in, it’ll be interesting to see what he does because he’s promised huge cuts in public spending and tax cuts for workers. Given that the main expenditures are benefits, pensions and the NHS it’s going to cause some pain somewhere.
There are thousands of food factories in the U.K. staffed with migrant workers who have good work ethics because British people won’t work in them for just above minimum wage coz they all want to be influencers! We need a big shift in mindset and people need to be forced off their backsides. [Post edited 28 Aug 6:52]
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Agree with most of that but I’m really confused as to why we can’t get nurses, consultants etc in our hospitals especially West Wales. I’m sure I read a report somewhere…if I find it again I’ll post it…stating that not all newly qualified nurses and doctors can find a job. What the hell does that mean?
https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/bma-seeks-deal-on-doctor-unemployment-as [Post edited 27 Aug 20:20]
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| Generational unemployment on 20:47 - Aug 27 with 1257 views | Dr_Winston |
Not only do newly qualified medical professionals struggle to find work, but there is a cap on how many training places are available for certain roles.
Basically, the Government imports NHS staff from abroad because it doesn't allow enough British students to train to become one.
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| Generational unemployment on 22:09 - Aug 27 with 1195 views | majorraglan |
| Generational unemployment on 20:47 - Aug 27 by Dr_Winston |
Not only do newly qualified medical professionals struggle to find work, but there is a cap on how many training places are available for certain roles.
Basically, the Government imports NHS staff from abroad because it doesn't allow enough British students to train to become one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62594141 |
There were a couple of articles a few years ago about this, the suggestion was the then Conservative government didn’t want to increase the number of student and training places because when the students qualified and “came on line” there was likely to be a Labour government and that Labour would benefit (make political capital etc ) from the increase in the numbers of doctors. Its mad to think that politicians could be so short sighted. | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 23:35 - Aug 27 with 1167 views | max936 |
| Generational unemployment on 18:50 - Aug 27 by majorraglan |
We do need migrants for the NHS because in South West Wales we have shortages of nurses, doctors, surgeons and consultants and the only way services can be sustained is via overseas recruiting. We also have a fair few overseas healthcare workers who are the spouses of the overseas nurses.
Unfortunately there are jobs that many Brits do not want to do, nursing, care and the manufacturing of food. Some of these need skills, however some don’t and it’s quite simply a case of people can’t be asked because their life on benefits is too easy and too rewarding. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I saw a feature in a “newspaper” the other day about a mother of 3 whinging she couldn’t cope on £2.1k benefits per month. Just what the @@@@ is that all about, someone who’s working has to earn £38K Pa to take him £2.1k per month AND then they have to pay bills, mortgage etc, it’s a lot more if you want to earn that amount in your pocket after expenditure like the single mum.
We need work to pay and for benefits to be a short term measure to support people through a difficult period, benefits need to be capped and time limited. When you’re on benefits there’d be an expectation you’re either in training or doing community service to upskill yourself ready for work. Once the period is up that’s it. I’d also make it a case that if you haven’t paid in for at least 3 years you can’t take anything out.
To be fair to Starmer, I’m not his biggest fan but he tried to make some inroads into the benefits culture and reduce expenditure and his MP’s and others failed to back him and he was roundly critisced.
If Farage gets in, it’ll be interesting to see what he does because he’s promised huge cuts in public spending and tax cuts for workers. Given that the main expenditures are benefits, pensions and the NHS it’s going to cause some pain somewhere.
There are thousands of food factories in the U.K. staffed with migrant workers who have good work ethics because British people won’t work in them for just above minimum wage coz they all want to be influencers! We need a big shift in mindset and people need to be forced off their backsides. [Post edited 28 Aug 6:52]
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Farage is a talking horse and a grifter, he's brilliant at telling people what's wrong and how he'll put it all right, but he skirts around the question of paying for it all.
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| Generational unemployment on 01:23 - Aug 28 with 1130 views | DJack |
| Generational unemployment on 12:43 - Aug 27 by JACKMANANDBOY |
We are indeed borrowing at record levels and have record levels of benefits to working age people, sooner or later it will hit the fan. My guess is that the indecisive Starmer will fiddle around the edges and make things worse.
Working people are picking up an increasing tax bill and we are borrowing more at the same time. |
Your ideology is that strong it clouds your obvious intellect and knowledge base.
By far the BIGGEST COST to the "welfare state" by a country mile is PENSIONS!
... Are you going to attack pensioners now or will you still limit it to the horrid poor people - who, incidently spend all their benefits, which adds to the the receipts of the government. Unlike the more affluent who use vehicles to keep their money from the state, which is the real reason why governments borrow so much. |  |
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| Generational unemployment on 10:55 - Aug 28 with 1056 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Generational unemployment on 01:23 - Aug 28 by DJack |
Your ideology is that strong it clouds your obvious intellect and knowledge base.
By far the BIGGEST COST to the "welfare state" by a country mile is PENSIONS!
... Are you going to attack pensioners now or will you still limit it to the horrid poor people - who, incidently spend all their benefits, which adds to the the receipts of the government. Unlike the more affluent who use vehicles to keep their money from the state, which is the real reason why governments borrow so much. |
I wonder what ideology I was supporting, by outlining some facts with respect to what direction the economy is moving, in reference to the OP.
Pensions have been screwed up in this county by Governments taking away the incentives for Companies to provide them and a lack of regulation. Our aging population is, of course, entirely predictable, we now need people to provide more for their old age rather than rely on the state.
Your assertion that benefits adds to the receipts of the Government is essentially problematic in that you can't make money by giving people money for obvious reasons.
The country is paying more and more for it's debt interest, if this carries on increasing then a reset is inevitable and that will hit everyone and those at the bottom will get hit hardest as usual. [Post edited 28 Aug 11:57]
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| Generational unemployment on 11:31 - Aug 28 with 1025 views | max936 |
| Generational unemployment on 10:55 - Aug 28 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I wonder what ideology I was supporting, by outlining some facts with respect to what direction the economy is moving, in reference to the OP.
Pensions have been screwed up in this county by Governments taking away the incentives for Companies to provide them and a lack of regulation. Our aging population is, of course, entirely predictable, we now need people to provide more for their old age rather than rely on the state.
Your assertion that benefits adds to the receipts of the Government is essentially problematic in that you can't make money by giving people money for obvious reasons.
The country is paying more and more for it's debt interest, if this carries on increasing then a reset is inevitable and that will hit everyone and those at the bottom will get hit hardest as usual. [Post edited 28 Aug 11:57]
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This government is wasting more and more money by the day, he's giving money away, France, Chagos Islands, billions on immigration, that's where "OUR" money is going, mans totally out of his depth, first it was the Tories and now this clueless buffon and his sidekick Reeves, 22 billion black hole has now deepend to over 50 billion, you couldn't make it up. [Post edited 28 Aug 11:34]
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| Generational unemployment on 13:14 - Aug 28 with 960 views | AnotherJohn |
| Generational unemployment on 20:17 - Aug 27 by Luther27 |
Agree with most of that but I’m really confused as to why we can’t get nurses, consultants etc in our hospitals especially West Wales. I’m sure I read a report somewhere…if I find it again I’ll post it…stating that not all newly qualified nurses and doctors can find a job. What the hell does that mean?
https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/bma-seeks-deal-on-doctor-unemployment-as [Post edited 27 Aug 20:20]
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I don't agree with Major's claim about unwillingness of home candidates to enter nurse training. It is true that in the last year or two there has been a fall off in applications at our local university (one of the major nurse education centres in Wales), but historically the constraint has been the number of Welsh Government funded places rather than volume of student applications. There was even a time several years ago when staff redundancies were mooted because the funded places were reduced. Wales has for many years had the advantage over England that we continued to offer bursaries rather than loans for nursing students, which helped maintain student uptake.
The issue of nursing vacancies in South West Wales seems complex and with some mystery surrounding what is happening overall. Earlier this year, I had some correspondence with somebody in a position of authority in the HB about a possible channel for recruitment of overseas qualified nurses who were already in the UK but did not have finance for the necessary conversion to practice in the UK. I was unable to find a way forward for some candidates known to me who were currently completing higher degrees and would have liked to practice in the NHS. Said senior person replied with the following: "Our Morriston emergency department is featuring in the media quite a lot at the moment, however we do not have significant nursing vacancies there. The issues are more about the sheer volume of patients that attend and the staff struggling to cope with that, and in a less than ideal environment. (...) With regard our overall nurse recruitment, we are in a very good position at the moment with minimal registered nurse vacancies across the health board, and we have paused our international nurse recruitment currently." [Post edited 28 Aug 16:00]
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| Generational unemployment on 14:10 - Aug 28 with 932 views | Luther27 |
| Generational unemployment on 13:14 - Aug 28 by AnotherJohn |
I don't agree with Major's claim about unwillingness of home candidates to enter nurse training. It is true that in the last year or two there has been a fall off in applications at our local university (one of the major nurse education centres in Wales), but historically the constraint has been the number of Welsh Government funded places rather than volume of student applications. There was even a time several years ago when staff redundancies were mooted because the funded places were reduced. Wales has for many years had the advantage over England that we continued to offer bursaries rather than loans for nursing students, which helped maintain student uptake.
The issue of nursing vacancies in South West Wales seems complex and with some mystery surrounding what is happening overall. Earlier this year, I had some correspondence with somebody in a position of authority in the HB about a possible channel for recruitment of overseas qualified nurses who were already in the UK but did not have finance for the necessary conversion to practice in the UK. I was unable to find a way forward for some candidates known to me who were currently completing higher degrees and would have liked to practice in the NHS. Said senior person replied with the following: "Our Morriston emergency department is featuring in the media quite a lot at the moment, however we do not have significant nursing vacancies there. The issues are more about the sheer volume of patients that attend and the staff struggling to cope with that, and in a less than ideal environment. (...) With regard our overall nurse recruitment, we are in a very good position at the moment with minimal registered nurse vacancies across the health board, and we have paused our international nurse recruitment currently." [Post edited 28 Aug 16:00]
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Thanks for giving an answer and an explanation of sorts. I’m still unclear why the patient to staff ratios are not adhered to. If the politicians are to be believed it’s not due to lack of funding….and as there appear to be unemployed nurses and doctors I’m still at a loss. Have we made things so complex that model is a failure? | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 14:56 - Aug 28 with 894 views | Luther27 |
| Generational unemployment on 13:14 - Aug 28 by AnotherJohn |
I don't agree with Major's claim about unwillingness of home candidates to enter nurse training. It is true that in the last year or two there has been a fall off in applications at our local university (one of the major nurse education centres in Wales), but historically the constraint has been the number of Welsh Government funded places rather than volume of student applications. There was even a time several years ago when staff redundancies were mooted because the funded places were reduced. Wales has for many years had the advantage over England that we continued to offer bursaries rather than loans for nursing students, which helped maintain student uptake.
The issue of nursing vacancies in South West Wales seems complex and with some mystery surrounding what is happening overall. Earlier this year, I had some correspondence with somebody in a position of authority in the HB about a possible channel for recruitment of overseas qualified nurses who were already in the UK but did not have finance for the necessary conversion to practice in the UK. I was unable to find a way forward for some candidates known to me who were currently completing higher degrees and would have liked to practice in the NHS. Said senior person replied with the following: "Our Morriston emergency department is featuring in the media quite a lot at the moment, however we do not have significant nursing vacancies there. The issues are more about the sheer volume of patients that attend and the staff struggling to cope with that, and in a less than ideal environment. (...) With regard our overall nurse recruitment, we are in a very good position at the moment with minimal registered nurse vacancies across the health board, and we have paused our international nurse recruitment currently." [Post edited 28 Aug 16:00]
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Strangely enough just chatting with a friend who’s daughter is a newly qualified radiologist….one of eight who are based at Morriston who are unable to work due to lack of funding even though regular staff are run off their feet and being asked to cancel leave. Is this our NHS in Wales? | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 16:53 - Aug 28 with 836 views | Gwyn737 |
| Generational unemployment on 18:50 - Aug 27 by majorraglan |
We do need migrants for the NHS because in South West Wales we have shortages of nurses, doctors, surgeons and consultants and the only way services can be sustained is via overseas recruiting. We also have a fair few overseas healthcare workers who are the spouses of the overseas nurses.
Unfortunately there are jobs that many Brits do not want to do, nursing, care and the manufacturing of food. Some of these need skills, however some don’t and it’s quite simply a case of people can’t be asked because their life on benefits is too easy and too rewarding. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I saw a feature in a “newspaper” the other day about a mother of 3 whinging she couldn’t cope on £2.1k benefits per month. Just what the @@@@ is that all about, someone who’s working has to earn £38K Pa to take him £2.1k per month AND then they have to pay bills, mortgage etc, it’s a lot more if you want to earn that amount in your pocket after expenditure like the single mum.
We need work to pay and for benefits to be a short term measure to support people through a difficult period, benefits need to be capped and time limited. When you’re on benefits there’d be an expectation you’re either in training or doing community service to upskill yourself ready for work. Once the period is up that’s it. I’d also make it a case that if you haven’t paid in for at least 3 years you can’t take anything out.
To be fair to Starmer, I’m not his biggest fan but he tried to make some inroads into the benefits culture and reduce expenditure and his MP’s and others failed to back him and he was roundly critisced.
If Farage gets in, it’ll be interesting to see what he does because he’s promised huge cuts in public spending and tax cuts for workers. Given that the main expenditures are benefits, pensions and the NHS it’s going to cause some pain somewhere.
There are thousands of food factories in the U.K. staffed with migrant workers who have good work ethics because British people won’t work in them for just above minimum wage coz they all want to be influencers! We need a big shift in mindset and people need to be forced off their backsides. [Post edited 28 Aug 6:52]
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Birth rate continues to fall and is at its lowest ever.
Someone has to pay for pensions etc.
It’s a sad state of affairs but I think youngsters may need to prepare themselves for no state pension.
Cat on another thread said he’s preparing his boy to save with that in mind - vital advice imo. | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 18:20 - Aug 28 with 787 views | felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately people on benefits receive them tax free while people working pay Tax and NI on their earnings. Until the government start taxing benefits then people make the choice to live on unemployment benefits rather than work.
Unfortunately no government will take the action needed to get the workshy working. | |
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| Generational unemployment on 18:23 - Aug 28 with 782 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Generational unemployment on 20:47 - Aug 27 by Dr_Winston |
Not only do newly qualified medical professionals struggle to find work, but there is a cap on how many training places are available for certain roles.
Basically, the Government imports NHS staff from abroad because it doesn't allow enough British students to train to become one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62594141 |
We have record numbers of both Doctors and Nurses being trained as well as record number of Doctors and Nurses working in the NHS | |
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| Generational unemployment on 19:28 - Aug 28 with 743 views | AnotherJohn |
| Generational unemployment on 16:53 - Aug 28 by Gwyn737 |
Birth rate continues to fall and is at its lowest ever.
Someone has to pay for pensions etc.
It’s a sad state of affairs but I think youngsters may need to prepare themselves for no state pension.
Cat on another thread said he’s preparing his boy to save with that in mind - vital advice imo. |
At the moment our population age pyramid isn't as skewed towards older age groups as most European countries, perhaps because we have already admitted (at a guess) about 15 million arrivals since 2000 (the gross immigration figure not the figure for net population growth which is around 10 million). As I posted a while ago, there is an ONS population projection calculator into which you can input values for different variables such as fertility rate and immigration numbers, and in the long term we still have a problem with an ageing population even if immigration continues at high levels. Can't find the URL for the calculator now and may need to find my old post. [Post edited 28 Aug 19:29]
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| Generational unemployment on 00:42 - Aug 29 with 689 views | DJack |
| Generational unemployment on 10:55 - Aug 28 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I wonder what ideology I was supporting, by outlining some facts with respect to what direction the economy is moving, in reference to the OP.
Pensions have been screwed up in this county by Governments taking away the incentives for Companies to provide them and a lack of regulation. Our aging population is, of course, entirely predictable, we now need people to provide more for their old age rather than rely on the state.
Your assertion that benefits adds to the receipts of the Government is essentially problematic in that you can't make money by giving people money for obvious reasons.
The country is paying more and more for it's debt interest, if this carries on increasing then a reset is inevitable and that will hit everyone and those at the bottom will get hit hardest as usual. [Post edited 28 Aug 11:57]
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My mistake in regards you replying to the OP, I hold my hands up.
What irks me is that most of the points youve raised since the new government, were applicable during the previous idiots but not a peep from you. YES Starmer seems quite ineffectual but compared to almost all of the previous incumbents he's no worse and with time may prove to be better (50/50). The only previous government PM who was more effective was Cameron ... he was really not great and his mistake with the whole Brexit thing was stupid in its execution.
Earlier you mentioned the borrowing and the increasing tax bill... multiple austerity programmes killed the treasury receipts and increased our borrowing (Plus the Covid situation). Additionally the crazy reduction in the NI rate which was a political hand grenade thrown in labours direction... and the fools fell for it.
A couple of "relatively" simple things to reverse SOME of the damage
1. End the Triple Lock, its unaffordable - I hit pension age in nine years , I want it long gone by then for the county's sake.
2. reverse the NI cut.
3 Encourage targeted immigration. (We also need an adult conversation about immigration policies in totality but that WONT be simple as parties wont be adults and will just go deliberately partisan).
4. National LIving Wage for everyone! (Probably four day week where posible as well)
5. Tax the rich, the hysteria over them leaving is overblown, always have been.
6 Force the tax office to go after the conglomerates, large companies and very wealthy individuals. Stop putting the majority of the resources to go after the "little people" in the effort to get Daily Express headlines. | |
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| Generational unemployment (n/t) on 06:48 - Aug 29 with 665 views | Gwyn737 |
| Generational unemployment on 18:50 - Aug 27 by majorraglan |
We do need migrants for the NHS because in South West Wales we have shortages of nurses, doctors, surgeons and consultants and the only way services can be sustained is via overseas recruiting. We also have a fair few overseas healthcare workers who are the spouses of the overseas nurses.
Unfortunately there are jobs that many Brits do not want to do, nursing, care and the manufacturing of food. Some of these need skills, however some don’t and it’s quite simply a case of people can’t be asked because their life on benefits is too easy and too rewarding. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I saw a feature in a “newspaper” the other day about a mother of 3 whinging she couldn’t cope on £2.1k benefits per month. Just what the @@@@ is that all about, someone who’s working has to earn £38K Pa to take him £2.1k per month AND then they have to pay bills, mortgage etc, it’s a lot more if you want to earn that amount in your pocket after expenditure like the single mum.
We need work to pay and for benefits to be a short term measure to support people through a difficult period, benefits need to be capped and time limited. When you’re on benefits there’d be an expectation you’re either in training or doing community service to upskill yourself ready for work. Once the period is up that’s it. I’d also make it a case that if you haven’t paid in for at least 3 years you can’t take anything out.
To be fair to Starmer, I’m not his biggest fan but he tried to make some inroads into the benefits culture and reduce expenditure and his MP’s and others failed to back him and he was roundly critisced.
If Farage gets in, it’ll be interesting to see what he does because he’s promised huge cuts in public spending and tax cuts for workers. Given that the main expenditures are benefits, pensions and the NHS it’s going to cause some pain somewhere.
There are thousands of food factories in the U.K. staffed with migrant workers who have good work ethics because British people won’t work in them for just above minimum wage coz they all want to be influencers! We need a big shift in mindset and people need to be forced off their backsides. [Post edited 28 Aug 6:52]
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| Generational unemployment on 06:50 - Aug 29 with 652 views | Gwyn737 |
| Generational unemployment on 19:28 - Aug 28 by AnotherJohn |
At the moment our population age pyramid isn't as skewed towards older age groups as most European countries, perhaps because we have already admitted (at a guess) about 15 million arrivals since 2000 (the gross immigration figure not the figure for net population growth which is around 10 million). As I posted a while ago, there is an ONS population projection calculator into which you can input values for different variables such as fertility rate and immigration numbers, and in the long term we still have a problem with an ageing population even if immigration continues at high levels. Can't find the URL for the calculator now and may need to find my old post. [Post edited 28 Aug 19:29]
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European countries have differing ways of administering pensions so it’s difficult to make comparisons. | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 08:02 - Aug 29 with 622 views | AnotherJohn |
| Generational unemployment on 06:50 - Aug 29 by Gwyn737 |
European countries have differing ways of administering pensions so it’s difficult to make comparisons. |
Does that really affect the general issue about what to do when an ageing population creates a situation where a shrinking working age population struggles to support welfare funding, including healthcare as well as pensions? The argument that Major made was also made in Germany, for example. My point is that our population pyramid doesn't look as bad as some, and that anyway immigration is not the solution in the long term. | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 08:23 - Aug 29 with 611 views | Gwyn737 |
| Generational unemployment on 08:02 - Aug 29 by AnotherJohn |
Does that really affect the general issue about what to do when an ageing population creates a situation where a shrinking working age population struggles to support welfare funding, including healthcare as well as pensions? The argument that Major made was also made in Germany, for example. My point is that our population pyramid doesn't look as bad as some, and that anyway immigration is not the solution in the long term. |
I absolutely agree with you that immigration isn’t a long term solution. We need to make having kids more affordable.
It’s not just money of course, there’s a cultural element too. | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 10:53 - Aug 29 with 538 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Generational unemployment on 18:23 - Aug 28 by felixstowe_jack |
We have record numbers of both Doctors and Nurses being trained as well as record number of Doctors and Nurses working in the NHS |
Recird numbers you say, how do the numbers compare to 50 years ago, as in the ratio of them to the size of the UK population? | | | |
| Generational unemployment on 11:22 - Aug 29 with 513 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Generational unemployment on 00:42 - Aug 29 by DJack |
My mistake in regards you replying to the OP, I hold my hands up.
What irks me is that most of the points youve raised since the new government, were applicable during the previous idiots but not a peep from you. YES Starmer seems quite ineffectual but compared to almost all of the previous incumbents he's no worse and with time may prove to be better (50/50). The only previous government PM who was more effective was Cameron ... he was really not great and his mistake with the whole Brexit thing was stupid in its execution.
Earlier you mentioned the borrowing and the increasing tax bill... multiple austerity programmes killed the treasury receipts and increased our borrowing (Plus the Covid situation). Additionally the crazy reduction in the NI rate which was a political hand grenade thrown in labours direction... and the fools fell for it.
A couple of "relatively" simple things to reverse SOME of the damage
1. End the Triple Lock, its unaffordable - I hit pension age in nine years , I want it long gone by then for the county's sake.
2. reverse the NI cut.
3 Encourage targeted immigration. (We also need an adult conversation about immigration policies in totality but that WONT be simple as parties wont be adults and will just go deliberately partisan).
4. National LIving Wage for everyone! (Probably four day week where posible as well)
5. Tax the rich, the hysteria over them leaving is overblown, always have been.
6 Force the tax office to go after the conglomerates, large companies and very wealthy individuals. Stop putting the majority of the resources to go after the "little people" in the effort to get Daily Express headlines. |
I'm the same age as you and I agree, the triple lock has to go. The rest of your points,
2, don't just reverse it but raise it, bring in new bands making and spread the rate rises further.
3, totally agree, politicians need to start acting in the country's best interests and stop the ideological game playing. It's this game playing that has helped ruin the country. Cutting taxes just before sn election to look good knowing full well the incoming government (even if they return) will have to raise taxes again at the first opportunity. If the oppo win you can say look, new government bad. We've seen it many times.
4, The living wage has to rise and then to cut Unoversal credit payments. Why are we subsising corporate low pay? E|ssentially enabling the greedy tycoons to get richer.
5, I think rich people will leave, it happened in France after all. I think the answer is to increase VAT on high end goods, to increase VED on premium cars, to have more council tax bands and increase the rates onn high end houses. We don't have to tax them directly.
6, we need to tax laws to close loopholes for the rich. To force corporations to pay more tax in the UK. Hpwever we do it we have to find a way. If those big coporations decide to leave then British entrepreneurs can step in. I don't see the likes of Amazon and Starbucks jumping ship though, not as long as there's still profit in it. Their answer may be to increase prices and hopefully then people will turn to using local or Uk businesses which stops the profit leaving the country.
Those are my opinions but I'm no economist nor a financial expert. It's just what I have come to think over the years of watching the situation and listening to the experts and interested parties.
I could be wildly wrong obviously. | | | |
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