| Vip or Idah? 19:32 - Aug 30 with 2537 views | ncswan |
Maybe we don't spend the money on Idah? Spend it on another striker that's not as expensive, or a loan? Something to consider. Or, go back to Celtic and change the purchase price/terms. |  | | |  |
| Vip or Idah? on 19:57 - Aug 30 with 2034 views | Dr_Winston |
We do need another forward option to ensure that Liam Cullen is never called upon to fill the role again, but I'd settle for a Premier League loanee. Maybe one who can play out wide as well. Kill two birds with one stone. |  |
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| Vip or Idah? on 21:08 - Aug 30 with 1876 views | PawelAbbott |
Vip has started scoring but let's not gloss over his short comings. The rest of the side are looking really strong with some depth.
A really top striker could see us finish top 6 at least | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:39 - Aug 30 with 1781 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:08 - Aug 30 by PawelAbbott |
Vip has started scoring but let's not gloss over his short comings. The rest of the side are looking really strong with some depth.
A really top striker could see us finish top 6 at least |
A really decent and consistent striker would certainly help that but I think we'd still need to lose 2 or 3 players (Cullen, Fulton to start with) and replace them with better.
The squad has really taken shape now, 10 new signings so I think it'd be a bit greedy to ask for 2 more good players.
If the Idah deal goes through we'll have spent around 16 million. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:51 - Aug 30 with 1739 views | Fireboy2 |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:08 - Aug 30 by PawelAbbott |
Vip has started scoring but let's not gloss over his short comings. The rest of the side are looking really strong with some depth.
A really top striker could see us finish top 6 at least |
This ^ This ^ This ^
Yes he scored today, did a bit more than normal but didnt do much to write hone about.
Another striker would help him though. |  | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 22:18 - Aug 30 with 1670 views | KeithHaynes |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:51 - Aug 30 by Fireboy2 |
This ^ This ^ This ^
Yes he scored today, did a bit more than normal but didnt do much to write hone about.
Another striker would help him though. |
Could be two in but I’m certain he would have to leave to get them both in. Plus a defender is likely to join. |  |
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| Vip or Idah? on 22:52 - Aug 30 with 1584 views | PawelAbbott |
| Vip or Idah? on 22:18 - Aug 30 by KeithHaynes |
Could be two in but I’m certain he would have to leave to get them both in. Plus a defender is likely to join. |
I hope its a right back | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 00:27 - Aug 31 with 1464 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:39 - Aug 30 by SullutaCreturned |
A really decent and consistent striker would certainly help that but I think we'd still need to lose 2 or 3 players (Cullen, Fulton to start with) and replace them with better.
The squad has really taken shape now, 10 new signings so I think it'd be a bit greedy to ask for 2 more good players.
If the Idah deal goes through we'll have spent around 16 million. |
Seems like we have replaced Fulton already. |  |
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| Vip or Idah? on 00:33 - Aug 31 with 1450 views | RhonddaSwans |
Ogbene is up for loan.
Idah and Ogbene would be a dream.
But if Celtic are dragging their feet.
Lets move on Ogbene is a better player.
Idah or Ogebene?
Also as for Vip.
He is class but can he keep this up?
I want the guy to stay and have always wanted him todo well .
But is this just a mini purple patch . | |
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| Vip or Idah? on 03:24 - Aug 31 with 1373 views | ncswan |
Cullen & Fulton aren't going anywhere. As for Cullen, he's not costing Swans that much but he offers something of value on the field. Fulton? As much as serveral of us want Swans to offload him isn't going anywhere since his wages are more than what other Championship teams and lower leagues can pay.
The question remains: Does our recruitment team still believe in their recruitment plan, or do they tell Celtic that we'll take Idah, but not for the reported £6-7M range. Maybe £4-5M. I don't know. How's Idah going to look at it knowing that he may be playing 2nd fiddle for awhile instead of coming in as the possible heir apparent?
If I make the decision, then I would go for signing Idah and keep Vip to insure competition. Unless there is some PSR consternation, then that's the best outcome for Swans, imo. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 07:54 - Aug 31 with 1221 views | jack247 |
| Vip or Idah? on 21:08 - Aug 30 by PawelAbbott |
Vip has started scoring but let's not gloss over his short comings. The rest of the side are looking really strong with some depth.
A really top striker could see us finish top 6 at least |
Agree completely, some serious overreactions on here yesterday.
He had a good substitute appearance against Watford with a well taken goal, a wonder strike against Plymouth in a game he otherwise didn’t get into and a game of two halves yesterday, where he was anonymous in the first half and excellent in the second.
We are just as desperate for a striker as we were yesterday morning. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:03 - Aug 31 with 1068 views | pencoedjack |
| Vip or Idah? on 07:54 - Aug 31 by jack247 |
Agree completely, some serious overreactions on here yesterday.
He had a good substitute appearance against Watford with a well taken goal, a wonder strike against Plymouth in a game he otherwise didn’t get into and a game of two halves yesterday, where he was anonymous in the first half and excellent in the second.
We are just as desperate for a striker as we were yesterday morning. |
So basically he scored 3 goals in 3 games but is still getting slated.
Only in Swansea. |  | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:11 - Aug 31 with 1034 views | Landore_Jack |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:03 - Aug 31 by pencoedjack |
So basically he scored 3 goals in 3 games but is still getting slated.
Only in Swansea. |
Of course Vipotnik has flaws. That is why he is playing in the Championship. He has scored 3 goals in 3 games. His game is improving. Give him some slack ffs. Maybe you should question whether he is getting enough service from midfield.
Edit Didn't mean to reply to you. Apologies. [Post edited 31 Aug 9:12]
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| Vip or Idah? on 09:12 - Aug 31 with 1025 views | jack247 |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:03 - Aug 31 by pencoedjack |
So basically he scored 3 goals in 3 games but is still getting slated.
Only in Swansea. |
Good substitute appearance against Watford with a well taken goal
Wonder strike against Plymouth in a game he otherwise didn’t get into
Anonymous first half yesterday. Very much better in the second. As I’ve said on another thread, his whole performance, not just the goal and the assist
Which parts of that do you disagree with? | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:16 - Aug 31 with 968 views | SwaneeRiver |
| Vip or Idah? on 07:54 - Aug 31 by jack247 |
Agree completely, some serious overreactions on here yesterday.
He had a good substitute appearance against Watford with a well taken goal, a wonder strike against Plymouth in a game he otherwise didn’t get into and a game of two halves yesterday, where he was anonymous in the first half and excellent in the second.
We are just as desperate for a striker as we were yesterday morning. |
People have short memories
Piroe was rightly held in esteem down here as a 20+ goals a season striker
Yet he had many games where he did little except score.
That was his primary job
Likewise with Vip
His job is to score goals
In eight days he has scored 3 goals, almost had another scorcher yesterday that the keeper saved, created the second goal yesterday, plus clinically finished his penalty against Plymouth
At any other club fans would be clamouring for him to stay.
Madness mun
Only at Swansea ( to echo above ) | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:18 - Aug 31 with 950 views | RichardO |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:11 - Aug 31 by Landore_Jack |
Of course Vipotnik has flaws. That is why he is playing in the Championship. He has scored 3 goals in 3 games. His game is improving. Give him some slack ffs. Maybe you should question whether he is getting enough service from midfield.
Edit Didn't mean to reply to you. Apologies. [Post edited 31 Aug 9:12]
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We need another striker or we start using Wales but if we did that it would put Cullen down the pecking order as a striker and would Cullen get a starting place as a forward midfielder , I think there will be a number of changes during the season and who Sheehan will use but obviously he doesn't want take the adjustments too soon taking into account new players and injury issues. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:22 - Aug 31 with 916 views | RichardO |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:16 - Aug 31 by SwaneeRiver |
People have short memories
Piroe was rightly held in esteem down here as a 20+ goals a season striker
Yet he had many games where he did little except score.
That was his primary job
Likewise with Vip
His job is to score goals
In eight days he has scored 3 goals, almost had another scorcher yesterday that the keeper saved, created the second goal yesterday, plus clinically finished his penalty against Plymouth
At any other club fans would be clamouring for him to stay.
Madness mun
Only at Swansea ( to echo above ) |
You have to admit that it would appear things have changed within the team and with the player himself will that last who knows. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:26 - Aug 31 with 874 views | jack247 |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:16 - Aug 31 by SwaneeRiver |
People have short memories
Piroe was rightly held in esteem down here as a 20+ goals a season striker
Yet he had many games where he did little except score.
That was his primary job
Likewise with Vip
His job is to score goals
In eight days he has scored 3 goals, almost had another scorcher yesterday that the keeper saved, created the second goal yesterday, plus clinically finished his penalty against Plymouth
At any other club fans would be clamouring for him to stay.
Madness mun
Only at Swansea ( to echo above ) |
If Vipotnik has a season like Piroe, I’ll be thrilled. We’ll almost certainly be in the playoffs as the rest of the team is stronger than it was two years ago.
A bit early for a Piroe comparison. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:28 - Aug 31 with 862 views | Dr_Winston |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:18 - Aug 31 by RichardO |
We need another striker or we start using Wales but if we did that it would put Cullen down the pecking order as a striker and would Cullen get a starting place as a forward midfielder , I think there will be a number of changes during the season and who Sheehan will use but obviously he doesn't want take the adjustments too soon taking into account new players and injury issues. |
Cullen really needs to be an emergency only option for the first team going forward. I posted last night in a different thread about his numbers.
The bottom line is, barring a 5/6 week spell last Nov/Dec, he simply hasn't scored or created anything like enough, especially given the consistent support and game time that he's had over the last four or five years. | |
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| Vip or Idah? on 09:31 - Aug 31 with 846 views | jack247 |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:22 - Aug 31 by RichardO |
You have to admit that it would appear things have changed within the team and with the player himself will that last who knows. |
Certain posters will never admit that. If he keeps it up, it’s like signing a new striker | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:39 - Aug 31 with 808 views | Whiterockin |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:31 - Aug 31 by jack247 |
Certain posters will never admit that. If he keeps it up, it’s like signing a new striker |
The point is will he still be here on Tuesday. |  | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:42 - Aug 31 with 799 views | jack247 |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:39 - Aug 31 by Whiterockin |
The point is will he still be here on Tuesday. |
My guess is the last week will have caused Sheehan as well as Montague to have second thoughts on that. | | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 09:57 - Aug 31 with 758 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Vipotnik is work in progress and the signs are he is improving. He is strong on the ball has a bazooka shot and can bury headers.
Wales does not produce players like this. They are very rare. He is 22-23 and has the right profile That's why other teams want him.
To sell him for chips would be madness especially after the Gyorkeres debacle. [Post edited 31 Aug 10:38]
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| Vip or Idah? on 10:04 - Aug 31 with 725 views | OptimisticJack |
Vipotnik has to stay.
If we can't afford Idah without selling VP I can see someone like Jamal Lowe coming in late in the window. [Post edited 31 Aug 10:05]
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| Vip or Idah? on 10:11 - Aug 31 with 697 views | Daggyjack |
| Vip or Idah? on 10:04 - Aug 31 by OptimisticJack |
Vipotnik has to stay.
If we can't afford Idah without selling VP I can see someone like Jamal Lowe coming in late in the window. [Post edited 31 Aug 10:05]
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Wrong on all counts mate.
Idah will come in regardless Vipi staying or going.
Lowe....we are better than that now, especially in our recruitment. |  | | |
| Vip or Idah? on 10:14 - Aug 31 with 680 views | RichardO |
| Vip or Idah? on 10:11 - Aug 31 by Daggyjack |
Wrong on all counts mate.
Idah will come in regardless Vipi staying or going.
Lowe....we are better than that now, especially in our recruitment. |
Sheehab seen tibe having a goose chat with Hamal Lowe after the game, just good friends? | | | |
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