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I should have paid more. 13:27 - Sep 3 with 3843 viewsWhiterockin

Angela Raynors words. Labour really are imploding, at the very least she should be suspended while this is investigated.
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I should have paid more. on 18:35 - Sep 5 with 352 viewsonehunglow

I should have paid more. on 18:01 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I misspoke. Deputy leader I should have said not deputy prime minister. That’s voted on by conference by the members and the unions have the power there.


I read it’s all about the male elite not wanting a council house , pregnant at 16 , northern accented woman in such a powerful position
When you have people who think like this , we truly are buggered
Labour voters ,Tory haters have to swallow this
No excuses

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I should have paid more. on 19:06 - Sep 5 with 291 viewsGwyn737

My take on it is this.

1. She had to go. I won’t go down the road of ‘but the Tories’. Labour can’t pretend to set a standard then fall so far below it.

2. In her career, she has some huge achievements around women’s safety and workers rights.

3. Prior to this incident she has received shocking treatment by some be being a working class female who has risen from poverty and doesn’t dress in the way some think she should.
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I should have paid more. on 19:40 - Sep 5 with 260 viewsWhiterockin

I should have paid more. on 17:51 - Sep 5 by majorraglan

The landscape had changed significantly over the last 24 - 36 hours and based on the facts as they are now it is my belief that she should be now be referred to the Standards Committee do they can consider the matter. Her conduct has now been shown to have come up short of the required standard and she needs to face the consequences. If I were Starmer I’d probably want to see her suspended and deselected by her constituents because that’ll mean the end of her.


She should face criminal charges. If it was you or me we would end up in court for fiddling £40,000 tax bill.
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I should have paid more. on 19:43 - Sep 5 with 258 viewsGwyn737

I should have paid more. on 19:40 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin

She should face criminal charges. If it was you or me we would end up in court for fiddling £40,000 tax bill.


Not an expert but I don’t think it’s a criminal offence.
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I should have paid more. on 20:05 - Sep 5 with 222 viewsDemitrius

I should have paid more. on 19:43 - Sep 5 by Gwyn737

Not an expert but I don’t think it’s a criminal offence.


Al Capone might disagree....

“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

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I should have paid more. on 20:07 - Sep 5 with 212 viewsGwyn737

I should have paid more. on 20:05 - Sep 5 by Demitrius

Al Capone might disagree....


That’s stretching it a bit 🤣
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I should have paid more. on 20:08 - Sep 5 with 207 viewsWhiterockin

I should have paid more. on 19:43 - Sep 5 by Gwyn737

Not an expert but I don’t think it’s a criminal offence.


I'm pretty sure about 20 years ago stamp duty was grouped with income tax and evasion is a criminal offence. That's if she tried to avoid paying the full amount that was due.
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I should have paid more. on 20:12 - Sep 5 with 187 viewsGwyn737

I should have paid more. on 20:08 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin

I'm pretty sure about 20 years ago stamp duty was grouped with income tax and evasion is a criminal offence. That's if she tried to avoid paying the full amount that was due.


As I said, I’m no expert and just repeating what I’ve read.
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I should have paid more. on 20:20 - Sep 5 with 174 viewsAnotherJohn

I should have paid more. on 19:43 - Sep 5 by Gwyn737

Not an expert but I don’t think it’s a criminal offence.


I'd expect that the outcome will be that HMRC fine Rayner 20% or 30% of the unpaid tax as a penalty. HMRC's normal policy is to pursue civil penalties for underpayments or even fraud, and in this case the penalty would be regarded in that way. Only exceptionally do HMRC initiate criminal proceedings.
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I should have paid more. on 20:25 - Sep 5 with 155 viewsGwyn737

I should have paid more. on 20:20 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn

I'd expect that the outcome will be that HMRC fine Rayner 20% or 30% of the unpaid tax as a penalty. HMRC's normal policy is to pursue civil penalties for underpayments or even fraud, and in this case the penalty would be regarded in that way. Only exceptionally do HMRC initiate criminal proceedings.


I assume that would kick in if the money wasn’t or couldn’t be paid back?

The last similar(ish) I can think of was Nadhim Zahawi. That was a far larger amount but he paid the fine with no criminal charges.
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I should have paid more. on 21:36 - Sep 5 with 103 viewsDemitrius

I should have paid more. on 19:43 - Sep 5 by Gwyn737

Not an expert but I don’t think it’s a criminal offence.


Al Capone might disagree....

“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

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I should have paid more. on 21:46 - Sep 5 with 82 viewsGwyn737

I should have paid more. on 21:36 - Sep 5 by Demitrius

Al Capone might disagree....


Not really comparable though, is it.

It seems it’s not a criminal offence.

It may have been in the 1920s United States.
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