I should have paid more. 13:27 - Sep 3 with 6019 views | Whiterockin | Angela Raynors words. Labour really are imploding, at the very least she should be suspended while this is investigated. |  | | |  |
I should have paid more. on 14:43 - Sep 6 with 593 views | Gwyn737 |
I should have paid more. on 14:35 - Sep 6 by onehunglow | Well that’s your view I’m suggesting only what you perceive Time was when “ working class “ folk took pride in their appearance and whenever in public wore their best clothes possible even if it was a hat Same reason they scrubbed steps when they had little Having kids have n her circumstances isn’t or shouldn’t be a badge of honour and certainly not one to use for personal gain , as she does The hard done by poor northern working class girl makes good and is not accepted though by the elite Yeah baby Betty Bootroyd was the daughter of a cotton mill worker with a poverty background greater still She became a proud northern and always smart public figure who didn’t use her gob to impress fellow “ working class” If this is snobbery then guilty but there are no greater snobs than inverted ones and this includes class warriors No government on my lifetime has ever addressed the core problem on this country and that is class and how it divides The elite are seen as posh rich successful scum when in fact they are often leeches The elite are those who have created this country , miners ,shipbuilders , stone masons , cotton spinners , wool weavers and the skilled craftsmen whose legacy survives |
Yes, it’s incredibly hard for working class women to on. Some have managed it by changing everything about themselves to appease class snobs. |  | |  |
I should have paid more. on 14:49 - Sep 6 with 578 views | onehunglow |
I should have paid more. on 14:43 - Sep 6 by Gwyn737 | Yes, it’s incredibly hard for working class women to on. Some have managed it by changing everything about themselves to appease class snobs. |
And we could discuss who exactly is working class I don’t recognise any stigmatising crap Nobody should be stuck on a class closet be they “ rich” or not |  |
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I should have paid more. on 15:11 - Sep 6 with 566 views | Gwyn737 |
I should have paid more. on 14:49 - Sep 6 by onehunglow | And we could discuss who exactly is working class I don’t recognise any stigmatising crap Nobody should be stuck on a class closet be they “ rich” or not |
And nobody should be stigmatised for what they wear or their accent. |  | |  |
I should have paid more. on 11:31 - Sep 7 with 287 views | Whiterockin |
I should have paid more. on 15:11 - Sep 6 by Gwyn737 | And nobody should be stigmatised for what they wear or their accent. |
So Rayner is having £17,000 as a golden goodbye. Should she accept it, refuse it or donate it to charity. |  | |  |
I should have paid more. on 12:11 - Sep 7 with 241 views | Dr_Winston |
I should have paid more. on 11:31 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin | So Rayner is having £17,000 as a golden goodbye. Should she accept it, refuse it or donate it to charity. |
She'll be losing her income as a Cabinet Member so she's probably going to need the money to pay the mortgage and/or tax bill. Would be ironic if she has to sell the Hove Holiday Home anyway. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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I should have paid more. on 12:41 - Sep 7 with 208 views | SullutaCreturned |
I should have paid more. on 15:11 - Sep 6 by Gwyn737 | And nobody should be stigmatised for what they wear or their accent. |
I have stigmatised her for being a bully, a loudmouth and now for a massive error of judgement which shows how unsuitable she was, she's not alone there and there are still many in politics who shouldn't be there. I don't care what the accent is or what they wear, I care what they do. |  | |  |
I should have paid more. on 12:58 - Sep 7 with 180 views | Gwyn737 |
I should have paid more. on 12:41 - Sep 7 by SullutaCreturned | I have stigmatised her for being a bully, a loudmouth and now for a massive error of judgement which shows how unsuitable she was, she's not alone there and there are still many in politics who shouldn't be there. I don't care what the accent is or what they wear, I care what they do. |
And she’s been a successful politician with some real tangible achievements. I’m not sure about being a bully - I may have missed this story. I’m not defending her - she had to go, I just don’t think she’s historically had fair treatment, particularly by the press Sadly we’ve a long history of our leaders feathering their nest, so why does she in particular end up with this: |  | |  |
I should have paid more. on 13:04 - Sep 7 with 174 views | Boundy |
I should have paid more. on 12:58 - Sep 7 by Gwyn737 | And she’s been a successful politician with some real tangible achievements. I’m not sure about being a bully - I may have missed this story. I’m not defending her - she had to go, I just don’t think she’s historically had fair treatment, particularly by the press Sadly we’ve a long history of our leaders feathering their nest, so why does she in particular end up with this: |
It's been painted over , by the taxpayer of course.. I'm not sure what her successful achievements are, she's certainly done well for herself with a limited education so much so she found herself in a position to be able to buy an 800 thousand pound house , regardless.I think you'll find she's been the darling of the left wing press for a while, not so by the right wing but that's to be expected. |  |
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I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 7 with 153 views | Dr_Winston | Based on her behaviour if the media is giving her a hard time then it's doing its job properly and kudos to the investigative journalists who broke the story in the first place. It's becoming a rare event these days. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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I should have paid more. on 14:28 - Sep 7 with 81 views | Gwyn737 |
I should have paid more. on 13:04 - Sep 7 by Boundy | It's been painted over , by the taxpayer of course.. I'm not sure what her successful achievements are, she's certainly done well for herself with a limited education so much so she found herself in a position to be able to buy an 800 thousand pound house , regardless.I think you'll find she's been the darling of the left wing press for a while, not so by the right wing but that's to be expected. |
The fact it’s been painted over doesn’t make it right. Hopefully those who did will be caught. Your reasoning for why she’s the darling of the left and not the right is spot on. Working class background, limited education, young mother etc, climbing the pole to a position of influence. Enough to make the Mail metaphorically froth at the mouth. [Post edited 7 Sep 14:32]
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I should have paid more. on 14:30 - Sep 7 with 78 views | Gwyn737 |
I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 7 by Dr_Winston | Based on her behaviour if the media is giving her a hard time then it's doing its job properly and kudos to the investigative journalists who broke the story in the first place. It's becoming a rare event these days. |
Important investagitive journalism brought her to book and those involved deserve the plaudits. Her treatment before this was classist and mysoginistic. |  | |  |
I should have paid more. on 15:29 - Sep 7 with 1 views | onehunglow |
I should have paid more. on 14:30 - Sep 7 by Gwyn737 | Important investagitive journalism brought her to book and those involved deserve the plaudits. Her treatment before this was classist and mysoginistic. |
No it was not She wasn’t exactly in need of anyone defending her If you’re on public life, expect scrutiny Class is what kills usit always has The “ toffs” , posh, old Etonians all hated by those THEY seem “ working class “ , worst “ ordinary “ or average These are terms of abuse that those who can use to keep others in their place They succeed The Royals, landowners, public school boys, rich, bankers and “ wealth” are often trailer tradh They are NOT the elite When will folk wake up to this |  |
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