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I should have paid more. 13:27 - Sep 3 with 3019 viewsWhiterockin

Angela Raynors words. Labour really are imploding, at the very least she should be suspended while this is investigated.
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I should have paid more. on 23:24 - Sep 4 with 604 viewsonehunglow

I should have paid more. on 21:30 - Sep 4 by Boundy

Strange that Labour are changing the farming community inheritance process to prevent many families passing on their farms to protect their families futures and now the ginger one is using her son as a defence for her indiscretion.


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I should have paid more. on 00:05 - Sep 5 with 583 viewsmax936

I should have paid more. on 13:10 - Sep 4 by Flashberryjack

In normal times I would have expected MP's of all parties would be lining up to slaughter her, surprisingly, she has a lot of sympathisers.

Could it be that be that a lot of MP's are just as guilty as Rayner, glass houses and stones, greedy b*stards.


I posted earlier in the thread, that those high level politicians are in it for themselves, everything else is secondary.

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I should have paid more. on 00:33 - Sep 5 with 560 viewsRobbie

Debate on the radio earlier saying Starmer is scared of sacking her , she would then go to the Back Benches and create a huge row over why Starmer bombed her out , they never supported me in a time of need which the issues I was going through , blah ,blah .

Starmer has put his own self concerns before public anger over a tax evader .

Adage is keep your friends close , but keep your enemies even closer .
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I should have paid more. on 07:15 - Sep 5 with 492 viewsDr_Winston

Starmer is probably the one making sure that the information is getting out there. She's been eyeing up his job since he got it.

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I should have paid more. on 08:08 - Sep 5 with 461 viewsWhiterockin

I should have paid more. on 18:19 - Sep 3 by johnlangy

The 'family home' in Manchester is owned in trust by their disabled son. So as far as I understand it she has no financial interest in the house.

She says that now the only place she owns is the flat in Brighton.


It has come out that she used money from her sons trust to purchase the Hove flat. The same trust that owns the house she claims to be her sons and she previously owned. There is a lot more to come out with this.
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I should have paid more. on 08:44 - Sep 5 with 424 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Looks like Raynor lied. She claim she was given the tax advice by the firm handling the conveyancing.

They say they used the information provided by Raynor to calculate the stamp duty due. They also say they do not provide tax advice.

Wonder who we should believe. The tax evaders or trusted family firm woth a good reputation.

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I should have paid more. on 11:28 - Sep 5 with 315 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

I should have paid more. on 00:33 - Sep 5 by Robbie

Debate on the radio earlier saying Starmer is scared of sacking her , she would then go to the Back Benches and create a huge row over why Starmer bombed her out , they never supported me in a time of need which the issues I was going through , blah ,blah .

Starmer has put his own self concerns before public anger over a tax evader .

Adage is keep your friends close , but keep your enemies even closer .


Starmer can sack her as housing secretary but her position as deputy pm isn’t under his control because it’s voted on at conference. So if he does sack her from her ministerial role she’ll still be sitying next to him and filling in at pmqs when he’s off gallivanting pretending to be a respected statesman. Her fate is largely in the hands of the unions. After being booted out of unite recently and her messy divorce with her union leader husband following a clandestine affair with another married MP her position doesn’t look so secure.
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I should have paid more. on 12:14 - Sep 5 with 282 viewsGwyn737

...and she's gone from both posts.
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I should have paid more. on 12:28 - Sep 5 with 274 viewsonehunglow

I should have paid more. on 11:28 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Starmer can sack her as housing secretary but her position as deputy pm isn’t under his control because it’s voted on at conference. So if he does sack her from her ministerial role she’ll still be sitying next to him and filling in at pmqs when he’s off gallivanting pretending to be a respected statesman. Her fate is largely in the hands of the unions. After being booted out of unite recently and her messy divorce with her union leader husband following a clandestine affair with another married MP her position doesn’t look so secure.
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Old habits then

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I should have paid more. on 12:30 - Sep 5 with 271 viewsonehunglow

I should have paid more. on 12:14 - Sep 5 by Gwyn737

...and she's gone from both posts.


That support didn’t help her then
Who’s next ?
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I should have paid more. on 13:15 - Sep 5 with 204 viewsswan65split

14 years, and just over 1 of this Govt.

nothing changes, it just carries on in another name, e.g Tories departing to reform.....

We need a re set of our system and out everyone thats involved now, all 650 ,the People and country is suffering while the self servers plod on telling us we arent doing enough.
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I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 5 with 201 viewsAnotherJohn

After the conveyancing firm denied providing tax advice, one assumes that the other two experts said to have been consulted did not step forward with anything that could help Angela Rayner. I suppose we could say her misconduct was on a smaller scale than some, but she was not aided by her record as a bit of an attack dog when it came to probity in government. What strikes me is that, irrespective of whether there was intentional deception, Ange has a track record of "winging it" with little regard for detail. That is not a positive attribute for a prominent minister. She had no choice but to resign.
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I should have paid more. on 13:21 - Sep 5 with 196 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn

After the conveyancing firm denied providing tax advice, one assumes that the other two experts said to have been consulted did not step forward with anything that could help Angela Rayner. I suppose we could say her misconduct was on a smaller scale than some, but she was not aided by her record as a bit of an attack dog when it came to probity in government. What strikes me is that, irrespective of whether there was intentional deception, Ange has a track record of "winging it" with little regard for detail. That is not a positive attribute for a prominent minister. She had no choice but to resign.


Seems the advice she received included advice to take specialist tax advice.

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I should have paid more. on 13:25 - Sep 5 with 176 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Does this officially make her “scum” now?

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I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 with 171 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Bit of a nightmare for Starmer now there will have to be a deputy leadership contest where they will inevitably chuck in the most deranged, tinpot, Israel hating left winger possible.

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I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 with 169 viewsWhiterockin

I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn

After the conveyancing firm denied providing tax advice, one assumes that the other two experts said to have been consulted did not step forward with anything that could help Angela Rayner. I suppose we could say her misconduct was on a smaller scale than some, but she was not aided by her record as a bit of an attack dog when it came to probity in government. What strikes me is that, irrespective of whether there was intentional deception, Ange has a track record of "winging it" with little regard for detail. That is not a positive attribute for a prominent minister. She had no choice but to resign.


Starmer backed her to the hilt. Did she lie to him or tell him the truth, either way his future should be up for discussion, poor judgment again.

Builthie is very quiet, he normally rips into this sort of thing.
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I should have paid more. on 13:34 - Sep 5 with 146 viewsonehunglow

I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin

Starmer backed her to the hilt. Did she lie to him or tell him the truth, either way his future should be up for discussion, poor judgment again.

Builthie is very quiet, he normally rips into this sort of thing.


Tories were much worse !

It’s the case many Labour stalwarts will feel let down
Rayner was the nastiest most vocal Tory hater
Class war
It kills us

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I should have paid more. on 13:38 - Sep 5 with 137 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I should have paid more. on 13:34 - Sep 5 by onehunglow

Tories were much worse !

It’s the case many Labour stalwarts will feel let down
Rayner was the nastiest most vocal Tory hater
Class war
It kills us


The Conservatives were bad but this Government is having a good go, anti corruption minister involved in corruption trial, homelessness minister making people homeless and housing minister not paying stamp duty.
It feels like the incorrigible have been replaced by the incompetent.

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I should have paid more. on 14:46 - Sep 5 with 72 viewsonehunglow

I should have paid more. on 13:38 - Sep 5 by JACKMANANDBOY

The Conservatives were bad but this Government is having a good go, anti corruption minister involved in corruption trial, homelessness minister making people homeless and housing minister not paying stamp duty.
It feels like the incorrigible have been replaced by the incompetent.


Agreed

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I should have paid more. on 15:24 - Sep 5 with 16 viewsFlashberryjack

I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin

Starmer backed her to the hilt. Did she lie to him or tell him the truth, either way his future should be up for discussion, poor judgment again.

Builthie is very quiet, he normally rips into this sort of thing.


Selective memory syndrome, many on here suffer from it.

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