| I should have paid more. 13:27 - Sep 3 with 17822 views | Whiterockin |
Angela Raynors words. Labour really are imploding, at the very least she should be suspended while this is investigated. |  | | |  |
| I should have paid more. on 23:24 - Sep 4 with 2644 views | onehunglow |
| I should have paid more. on 21:30 - Sep 4 by Boundy |
Strange that Labour are changing the farming community inheritance process to prevent many families passing on their farms to protect their families futures and now the ginger one is using her son as a defence for her indiscretion. |
Do as I say mun
Ange knows best
Tories are shite |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 00:05 - Sep 5 with 2625 views | max936 |
| I should have paid more. on 13:10 - Sep 4 by Flashberryjack |
In normal times I would have expected MP's of all parties would be lining up to slaughter her, surprisingly, she has a lot of sympathisers.
Could it be that be that a lot of MP's are just as guilty as Rayner, glass houses and stones, greedy b*stards. |
I posted earlier in the thread, that those high level politicians are in it for themselves, everything else is secondary. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 00:33 - Sep 5 with 2602 views | Robbie |
Debate on the radio earlier saying Starmer is scared of sacking her , she would then go to the Back Benches and create a huge row over why Starmer bombed her out , they never supported me in a time of need which the issues I was going through , blah ,blah .
Starmer has put his own self concerns before public anger over a tax evader .
Adage is keep your friends close , but keep your enemies even closer . | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 07:15 - Sep 5 with 2534 views | Dr_Winston |
Starmer is probably the one making sure that the information is getting out there. She's been eyeing up his job since he got it. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| I should have paid more. on 08:08 - Sep 5 with 2503 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 18:19 - Sep 3 by johnlangy |
The 'family home' in Manchester is owned in trust by their disabled son. So as far as I understand it she has no financial interest in the house.
She says that now the only place she owns is the flat in Brighton. |
It has come out that she used money from her sons trust to purchase the Hove flat. The same trust that owns the house she claims to be her sons and she previously owned. There is a lot more to come out with this. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 08:44 - Sep 5 with 2466 views | felixstowe_jack |
Looks like Raynor lied. She claim she was given the tax advice by the firm handling the conveyancing.
They say they used the information provided by Raynor to calculate the stamp duty due. They also say they do not provide tax advice.
Wonder who we should believe. The tax evaders or trusted family firm woth a good reputation. | |
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| I should have paid more. on 11:28 - Sep 5 with 2357 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| I should have paid more. on 00:33 - Sep 5 by Robbie |
Debate on the radio earlier saying Starmer is scared of sacking her , she would then go to the Back Benches and create a huge row over why Starmer bombed her out , they never supported me in a time of need which the issues I was going through , blah ,blah .
Starmer has put his own self concerns before public anger over a tax evader .
Adage is keep your friends close , but keep your enemies even closer . |
Starmer can sack her as housing secretary but her position as deputy pm isn’t under his control because it’s voted on at conference. So if he does sack her from her ministerial role she’ll still be sitying next to him and filling in at pmqs when he’s off gallivanting pretending to be a respected statesman. Her fate is largely in the hands of the unions. After being booted out of unite recently and her messy divorce with her union leader husband following a clandestine affair with another married MP her position doesn’t look so secure. [Post edited 5 Sep 11:30]
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| I should have paid more. on 12:14 - Sep 5 with 2323 views | Gwyn737 |
...and she's gone from both posts. | | | |
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| I should have paid more. on 12:28 - Sep 5 with 2314 views | onehunglow |
| I should have paid more. on 11:28 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Starmer can sack her as housing secretary but her position as deputy pm isn’t under his control because it’s voted on at conference. So if he does sack her from her ministerial role she’ll still be sitying next to him and filling in at pmqs when he’s off gallivanting pretending to be a respected statesman. Her fate is largely in the hands of the unions. After being booted out of unite recently and her messy divorce with her union leader husband following a clandestine affair with another married MP her position doesn’t look so secure. [Post edited 5 Sep 11:30]
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Old habits then | |
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| I should have paid more. on 12:30 - Sep 5 with 2311 views | onehunglow |
| I should have paid more. on 12:14 - Sep 5 by Gwyn737 |
...and she's gone from both posts. |
That support didn’t help her then
Who’s next ?
Trough | |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:15 - Sep 5 with 2246 views | swan65split |
14 years, and just over 1 of this Govt.
nothing changes, it just carries on in another name, e.g Tories departing to reform.....
We need a re set of our system and out everyone thats involved now, all 650 ,the People and country is suffering while the self servers plod on telling us we arent doing enough. |  | | |
| I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 5 with 2243 views | AnotherJohn |
After the conveyancing firm denied providing tax advice, one assumes that the other two experts said to have been consulted did not step forward with anything that could help Angela Rayner. I suppose we could say her misconduct was on a smaller scale than some, but she was not aided by her record as a bit of an attack dog when it came to probity in government. What strikes me is that, irrespective of whether there was intentional deception, Ange has a track record of "winging it" with little regard for detail. That is not a positive attribute for a prominent minister. She had no choice but to resign. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 13:21 - Sep 5 with 2238 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn |
After the conveyancing firm denied providing tax advice, one assumes that the other two experts said to have been consulted did not step forward with anything that could help Angela Rayner. I suppose we could say her misconduct was on a smaller scale than some, but she was not aided by her record as a bit of an attack dog when it came to probity in government. What strikes me is that, irrespective of whether there was intentional deception, Ange has a track record of "winging it" with little regard for detail. That is not a positive attribute for a prominent minister. She had no choice but to resign. |
Seems the advice she received included advice to take specialist tax advice. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:25 - Sep 5 with 2218 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Does this officially make her “scum” now? | |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 with 2213 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Bit of a nightmare for Starmer now there will have to be a deputy leadership contest where they will inevitably chuck in the most deranged, tinpot, Israel hating left winger possible. | |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 with 2211 views | Whiterockin |
| I should have paid more. on 13:17 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn |
After the conveyancing firm denied providing tax advice, one assumes that the other two experts said to have been consulted did not step forward with anything that could help Angela Rayner. I suppose we could say her misconduct was on a smaller scale than some, but she was not aided by her record as a bit of an attack dog when it came to probity in government. What strikes me is that, irrespective of whether there was intentional deception, Ange has a track record of "winging it" with little regard for detail. That is not a positive attribute for a prominent minister. She had no choice but to resign. |
Starmer backed her to the hilt. Did she lie to him or tell him the truth, either way his future should be up for discussion, poor judgment again.
Builthie is very quiet, he normally rips into this sort of thing. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 13:34 - Sep 5 with 2186 views | onehunglow |
| I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin |
Starmer backed her to the hilt. Did she lie to him or tell him the truth, either way his future should be up for discussion, poor judgment again.
Builthie is very quiet, he normally rips into this sort of thing. |
Tories were much worse !
It’s the case many Labour stalwarts will feel let down
Rayner was the nastiest most vocal Tory hater
Class war
It kills us | |
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| I should have paid more. on 13:38 - Sep 5 with 2179 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| I should have paid more. on 13:34 - Sep 5 by onehunglow |
Tories were much worse !
It’s the case many Labour stalwarts will feel let down
Rayner was the nastiest most vocal Tory hater
Class war
It kills us |
The Conservatives were bad but this Government is having a good go, anti corruption minister involved in corruption trial, homelessness minister making people homeless and housing minister not paying stamp duty.
It feels like the incorrigible have been replaced by the incompetent. | |
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| I should have paid more. on 14:46 - Sep 5 with 2112 views | onehunglow |
| I should have paid more. on 13:38 - Sep 5 by JACKMANANDBOY |
The Conservatives were bad but this Government is having a good go, anti corruption minister involved in corruption trial, homelessness minister making people homeless and housing minister not paying stamp duty.
It feels like the incorrigible have been replaced by the incompetent. |
Agreed | |
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| I should have paid more. on 15:24 - Sep 5 with 2058 views | Flashberryjack |
| I should have paid more. on 13:28 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin |
Starmer backed her to the hilt. Did she lie to him or tell him the truth, either way his future should be up for discussion, poor judgment again.
Builthie is very quiet, he normally rips into this sort of thing. |
Selective memory syndrome, many on here suffer from it. |  |
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| I should have paid more. on 17:36 - Sep 5 with 1994 views | SullutaCreturned |
My turn, she said she'd had addvice and followed it. Turns out that advice was to get specialist advice and she didn't follow it. That means she lied. Then she lied again to try and cover it up. it's all come out and at least she resigned straight away unlike some of the scum who've tried to ride out their corruption. I don't use that word lightly either, O personally feel it is corruption, she made a false claim and tried to blister through it but got vaught in the lie.
Anybody who;s paid attention will know I dislike Labour and Tory. I gave Starmer a chance but it's not going well.
The worst thing about all this is it is driving people towars Reform so if people think it cannot get any worse just wait and see.
Vote for a local independent, someone you may know about who at least is honest. Going to Reform is madness, I mean Nadine Dorries has just hopped to them and that is blatant self preservation, self serving...she knows her last party are shot and has gobe to Reform purely because they rop the polls and not out of any good political motive. She's a parasite. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 17:40 - Sep 5 with 1986 views | felixstowe_jack |
| I should have paid more. on 11:28 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Starmer can sack her as housing secretary but her position as deputy pm isn’t under his control because it’s voted on at conference. So if he does sack her from her ministerial role she’ll still be sitying next to him and filling in at pmqs when he’s off gallivanting pretending to be a respected statesman. Her fate is largely in the hands of the unions. After being booted out of unite recently and her messy divorce with her union leader husband following a clandestine affair with another married MP her position doesn’t look so secure. [Post edited 5 Sep 11:30]
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Incorrect she was voted as Deputy leader of the Labour Party by the Unions.
The Unions have no power to elect anyone as Deputy PM. The appointment of cabinet members is done by the PM of the Day.
When in opposition Starmer did try sack her as deputy Leader of the labour party but was stopped by the Unions.
All a bit academic now as she has reigned from both. Wonder if she will be prosecuted for tax evasion. | |
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| I should have paid more. on 17:51 - Sep 5 with 1957 views | majorraglan |
The landscape had changed significantly over the last 24 - 36 hours and based on the facts as they are now it is my belief that she should be now be referred to the Standards Committee do they can consider the matter. Her conduct has now been shown to have come up short of the required standard and she needs to face the consequences. If I were Starmer I’d probably want to see her suspended and deselected by her constituents because that’ll mean the end of her. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 17:55 - Sep 5 with 1944 views | Whiterockin |
A flat has gone back on the market in Hove at a greatly reduced price. | | | |
| I should have paid more. on 18:01 - Sep 5 with 1937 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| I should have paid more. on 17:40 - Sep 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Incorrect she was voted as Deputy leader of the Labour Party by the Unions.
The Unions have no power to elect anyone as Deputy PM. The appointment of cabinet members is done by the PM of the Day.
When in opposition Starmer did try sack her as deputy Leader of the labour party but was stopped by the Unions.
All a bit academic now as she has reigned from both. Wonder if she will be prosecuted for tax evasion. |
I misspoke. Deputy leader I should have said not deputy prime minister. That’s voted on by conference by the members and the unions have the power there. | |
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