| Unite The Kingdom 20:18 - Sep 13 with 21364 views | 1983 |
So only 9 arrests today, some on here won't be happy?
In other news...
8 Metropolitan Police officers suspended after investigation.
London Pride boss suspended.
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| Unite The Kingdom on 15:38 - Sep 19 with 3228 views | Flashberryjack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:13 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned |
Well going by his secind line AND having met him in person, I'd say he doesn't think you should believe lies nor get carried away by them.
PS, I don't think he's hot under the collar either, he's just staing an opinion. |
I didn't say you should believe lies, most media reports are riddled with lies and exagerations, but some, or most people choose to believe the one's that fit their agenda. |  |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 15:46 - Sep 19 with 3189 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:38 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack |
I didn't say you should believe lies, most media reports are riddled with lies and exagerations, but some, or most people choose to believe the one's that fit their agenda. |
We all believe what we want to believe. However, when something is a proven lie it may not be the best thing to shoot the messenger who brings the truth. |  | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:29 - Sep 19 with 3114 views | Gwyn737 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:00 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack |
I'ts a bit like when the media say thousands of protesters turned up to demonstrate for pro Palestine, but when you look at the crowd they show on the TV news it's obvious there's a lot less.
Do you get just as hot under the collar about this over the top exageratation ? |
I might have missed something but if you can show me an example of where the numbers have amplified by 20 then I’ll certainly comment.
The biggest report march was in November 2023 where the figure reported was 750,000.
Were there 37,500 there? [Post edited 19 Sep 16:50]
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| Unite The Kingdom on 16:40 - Sep 19 with 3085 views | onehunglow |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:29 - Sep 19 by Gwyn737 |
I might have missed something but if you can show me an example of where the numbers have amplified by 20 then I’ll certainly comment.
The biggest report march was in November 2023 where the figure reported was 750,000.
Were there 37,500 there? [Post edited 19 Sep 16:50]
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37500 is a large congregation | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 18:06 - Sep 19 with 3033 views | Flashberryjack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:46 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned |
We all believe what we want to believe. However, when something is a proven lie it may not be the best thing to shoot the messenger who brings the truth. |
50.000, 100,000 or 3 mllion, was anyone accurately counting to be able to prove beyond doubt the attendance of the march, other than guestimates on the back of a cigarete box.
And nobody is shooting the messenger, other than question the reason for the message. | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 18:13 - Sep 19 with 3027 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:06 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack |
50.000, 100,000 or 3 mllion, was anyone accurately counting to be able to prove beyond doubt the attendance of the march, other than guestimates on the back of a cigarete box.
And nobody is shooting the messenger, other than question the reason for the message. |
What are you saying, that we should believe the 3 million because nobody can prove otherwise?
I'e acdepted that there could be a lot more there than 150k but the estimates won't be so far out that there are even a million there, the police/people that make these calls have experience and technology on their side.Saying that, There couldn't be more than 500k because the police wouldn't be that far out. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:24 - Sep 19 with 2989 views | trampie |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:13 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned |
What are you saying, that we should believe the 3 million because nobody can prove otherwise?
I'e acdepted that there could be a lot more there than 150k but the estimates won't be so far out that there are even a million there, the police/people that make these calls have experience and technology on their side.Saying that, There couldn't be more than 500k because the police wouldn't be that far out. |
I was surprised at how little people were there (and I'm not saying that to wind anyone up), with the big build up it was getting I thought there would have been lots more people than there seemed to be from the pictures to my mind anyway. |  |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 21:23 - Sep 19 with 2903 views | Flashberryjack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:13 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned |
What are you saying, that we should believe the 3 million because nobody can prove otherwise?
I'e acdepted that there could be a lot more there than 150k but the estimates won't be so far out that there are even a million there, the police/people that make these calls have experience and technology on their side.Saying that, There couldn't be more than 500k because the police wouldn't be that far out. |
Beleive what you like.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1120304052902330 [Post edited 19 Sep 21:27]
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| Unite The Kingdom on 21:40 - Sep 19 with 2883 views | Gwyn737 |
Do you think the entire population of wales can fit into two bridges, two streets and two squares in London? | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 21:41 - Sep 19 with 2877 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Total number of people charged following the demonstration and counter demonstration is eight.
For a bunch of right wing Nazi nutters who are intent on destroying the country I think they need to do better. [Post edited 20 Sep 10:12]
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| Unite The Kingdom on 21:52 - Sep 19 with 2853 views | Flashberryjack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 21:40 - Sep 19 by Gwyn737 |
Do you think the entire population of wales can fit into two bridges, two streets and two squares in London? |
Impossible! I wasn't there. | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 09:16 - Sep 20 with 2684 views | Gwyn737 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 21:52 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack |
Impossible! I wasn't there. |
You don’t need to have been there to know how mad the 3m figure is.
Earlier in the thread I did the maths which is probably the moss accurate way to do it.
I’d readily accept that numbers were suppressed and the true number was in the low hundred thousands.
Any more than that. Not mathematically possible. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 10:05 - Sep 20 with 2626 views | onehunglow |
| Unite The Kingdom on 09:16 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737 |
You don’t need to have been there to know how mad the 3m figure is.
Earlier in the thread I did the maths which is probably the moss accurate way to do it.
I’d readily accept that numbers were suppressed and the true number was in the low hundred thousands.
Any more than that. Not mathematically possible. |
How about 20,000
20,000 souls or right wing fascists , who got off their cards to go on to the streets of the capital to say they ain’t happy
It doesn’t matter how many
Who counts anyway | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 10:42 - Sep 20 with 2601 views | 1983 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:24 - Sep 19 by trampie |
I was surprised at how little people were there (and I'm not saying that to wind anyone up), with the big build up it was getting I thought there would have been lots more people than there seemed to be from the pictures to my mind anyway. |
How little there were.....Really?
I would say about the 250,000+ mark maybe more
Considering recent similar marches by Tommy...etc of about 5k-6k that is a massive jump you can't deny that, and if another match was like this in say another 6 months time there would be double who were there on the 13th.
This march was a wait on see test, I would 100% go next time and my missus who is very liberal but not blinded by the nonsense that comes out of Whitehall [Post edited 20 Sep 11:18]
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| Unite The Kingdom on 11:02 - Sep 20 with 2558 views | onehunglow |
| Unite The Kingdom on 10:42 - Sep 20 by 1983 |
How little there were.....Really?
I would say about the 250,000+ mark maybe more
Considering recent similar marches by Tommy...etc of about 5k-6k that is a massive jump you can't deny that, and if another match was like this in say another 6 months time there would be double who were there on the 13th.
This march was a wait on see test, I would 100% go next time and my missus who is very liberal but not blinded by the nonsense that comes out of Whitehall [Post edited 20 Sep 11:18]
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Trampie is back
I’ve already splattered some hedgehogs in my garden
He’s rejuvenated
He’s full
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| Unite The Kingdom on 02:15 - Sep 21 with 2148 views | DJack |
Which particular outcomes are you referring to?
The police response, the anti immigration group, society in general or the response from Rob Jetten or Geert Wilders as the (apparent to me) ambiguity of your post is unusual for you.  |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 06:00 - Sep 21 with 2091 views | 1983 |
But it didn't ? ? | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 06:27 - Sep 21 with 2075 views | 1983 |
I struggle to contemplate how people can't just accept thousands of people United together and turned up in the capital on that day. | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 06:55 - Sep 21 with 2057 views | mangohilljack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:46 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned |
We all believe what we want to believe. However, when something is a proven lie it may not be the best thing to shoot the messenger who brings the truth. |
Maybe he should back his fables up with hard facts instead of choosing a particular side and guessing | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 06:59 - Sep 21 with 2050 views | mangohilljack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:24 - Sep 19 by trampie |
I was surprised at how little people were there (and I'm not saying that to wind anyone up), with the big build up it was getting I thought there would have been lots more people than there seemed to be from the pictures to my mind anyway. |
Maybe the cancelled transport, the engineering work on the train lines brought forward and all the other obstacles put in place ensured a lower turnout than what could have been. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 12:41 - Sep 21 with 1859 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 06:00 - Sep 21 by 1983 |
But it didn't ? ? |
No it didn't BUT I honestly think we are heading that way if the politicians do not listen. It's not just the numbers coming here people want cut, it's the way thise people are handled that seems wrong to so many. Whatever the truth is around how they are treated the perception is they are better treated than UK born people and that is another government failing. They lie and mislead, they do as they please and they rell us we are wrong but the politicians are there to do what the electorate want, not what they feel like doing.
Your next post, nobody is saying that thousands didn't turn up we are merely saying the figures have been vastly inflated. What seems obvious to me though is that the numbers attending these marches will rise, the number of marches will rise until or unless the ruling elites start doing what the people want, whether the people are right or wrong. That's how democracy should work isn't it, what the majority want, the majority get, even if it's bad for them? | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 21:44 - Sep 21 with 1637 views | 1983 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 12:41 - Sep 21 by SullutaCreturned |
No it didn't BUT I honestly think we are heading that way if the politicians do not listen. It's not just the numbers coming here people want cut, it's the way thise people are handled that seems wrong to so many. Whatever the truth is around how they are treated the perception is they are better treated than UK born people and that is another government failing. They lie and mislead, they do as they please and they rell us we are wrong but the politicians are there to do what the electorate want, not what they feel like doing.
Your next post, nobody is saying that thousands didn't turn up we are merely saying the figures have been vastly inflated. What seems obvious to me though is that the numbers attending these marches will rise, the number of marches will rise until or unless the ruling elites start doing what the people want, whether the people are right or wrong. That's how democracy should work isn't it, what the majority want, the majority get, even if it's bad for them? |
Thank you I stopped reading after your 3rd word. | |
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