| Unite The Kingdom 20:18 - Sep 13 with 7976 views | 1983 |
So only 9 arrests today, some on here won't be happy?
In other news...
8 Metropolitan Police officers suspended after investigation.
London Pride boss suspended.
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| Unite The Kingdom on 09:41 - Sep 15 with 1920 views | Gwyn737 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 07:53 - Sep 15 by KeithHaynes |
Confirmed by the Met Police mate. |
Where did you see that, skipper? |  | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 09:45 - Sep 15 with 1920 views | 1983 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 07:51 - Sep 15 by KeithHaynes |
I saw he was arrested for violence, and was completely cleared of it after cctv was reviewed by the police. Even though the police made a huge thing arresting him when he returned to the country he had arrangements to go into custody. Bloke walked up to him and physically assaulted him, self defence apparently.
It was at an underground station, he was actually on his way to do some podcasts in Tenerife which were pre arranged. |
I know Keith I was being sicastic | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 10:48 - Sep 15 with 1811 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Although I support people’s right to peaceful protest and all that I do wonder what the point is with all these marches. Nothing ever changes, nobody ever listens. Millions marched on Downing Street to protest the Iraq war but they just ignored it. There were anti Brexit marches pretty much every week for years. It just doesn’t work.
You could have ten million marching and they still wouldn’t give a flying toss.
It’ll all come back to whack them squarely in the nuts on polling day though. |  |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 11:03 - Sep 15 with 1781 views | Demitrius |
| Unite The Kingdom on 10:48 - Sep 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Although I support people’s right to peaceful protest and all that I do wonder what the point is with all these marches. Nothing ever changes, nobody ever listens. Millions marched on Downing Street to protest the Iraq war but they just ignored it. There were anti Brexit marches pretty much every week for years. It just doesn’t work.
You could have ten million marching and they still wouldn’t give a flying toss.
It’ll all come back to whack them squarely in the nuts on polling day though. |
I think you've nailed it in that last sentence.
Starmer & Co will be looking at that huge crowd of what should be their core support and realise they have lost their vote forever. They aren't just disliked, they are despised.
You're right of course, Labour did not listen to the 1m on the Iraq march but that decision to go to war on a dossier of lies cost them in the long term, created the refugee/migrant crisis we're still dealing with today and ruined his reputation and that of his Government.
Nearly every council by-election is being won by a Reform candidate where none stood before. It's a huge political shift and the UTK march is showing that. |  |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 11:49 - Sep 15 with 1717 views | onehunglow |
| Unite The Kingdom on 11:03 - Sep 15 by Demitrius |
I think you've nailed it in that last sentence.
Starmer & Co will be looking at that huge crowd of what should be their core support and realise they have lost their vote forever. They aren't just disliked, they are despised.
You're right of course, Labour did not listen to the 1m on the Iraq march but that decision to go to war on a dossier of lies cost them in the long term, created the refugee/migrant crisis we're still dealing with today and ruined his reputation and that of his Government.
Nearly every council by-election is being won by a Reform candidate where none stood before. It's a huge political shift and the UTK march is showing that. |
They will turn out to be more hated than the Tories , Nationwide, because those who they say they care for a the very ones being shat on
At least the Tories didn’t make out they cared | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 12:45 - Sep 15 with 1666 views | EagleEye |
| Unite The Kingdom on 07:04 - Sep 15 by mangohilljack |
There were unquestionably far more than 110,000 people in attendance. Trains across the country were packed heading into the capital, and motorways were lined with cars proudly flying flags on their way to join the march.
Predictably, the mainstream media downplayed the scale and tried to frame it negatively, reporting only “9–25 arrests.” To put that into perspective: I can recall South Wales derbies in the ’80s and ’90s where crowds of just 12,000 saw at least double that number of arrests.
From speaking with many who were there, the reality was entirely different — a carnival-like atmosphere filled with men, women, and children, all united behind one cause: ensuring the safety of our citizens, regardless of where they come from.
The contrast between the far left and the so-called “far right” (ordinary people, in truth) could not be clearer.
The left: too often associated with burning cities, calling for violence, and even acts of bloodshed.
The right: gathering peacefully, fostering a carnival spirit, and calling simply for a safe, secure country for its citizens.
That distinction speaks volumes. |
Listening to the radio yesterday while travelling, quite a few callers who were trying to attend the march all claimed at least 1,000,000 in attendance. Also heard that the police closed Westminster bridge & Blackfriars bridge due to sheer numbers of people. Tens of thousands couldn’t even get across the bridges & were turned back.
Someone somewhere has decided the media coverage should be limited. What we got on the BBC News last night was a feature on the state of hospitals under the Taliban in Afghanistan. Farcical. [Post edited 15 Sep 12:47]
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| Unite The Kingdom on 13:00 - Sep 15 with 1635 views | onehunglow |
| Unite The Kingdom on 12:45 - Sep 15 by EagleEye |
Listening to the radio yesterday while travelling, quite a few callers who were trying to attend the march all claimed at least 1,000,000 in attendance. Also heard that the police closed Westminster bridge & Blackfriars bridge due to sheer numbers of people. Tens of thousands couldn’t even get across the bridges & were turned back.
Someone somewhere has decided the media coverage should be limited. What we got on the BBC News last night was a feature on the state of hospitals under the Taliban in Afghanistan. Farcical. [Post edited 15 Sep 12:47]
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| Unite The Kingdom on 14:02 - Sep 15 with 1558 views | Boundy |
| Unite The Kingdom on 13:00 - Sep 15 by onehunglow |
And yet our media is described as right wing |
Yes I saw that comment, limited commentary by the ever so right wing BBC lol and others, newspaper headlines by the Mirror, Star ,guardian ,metro,and a few others all focussing on the numbers which they all quoted the same 100k up to 150k ,really and calling them right wing thugs ,forgetting that they were insulting their own readership.
JofN posted what's the point of protesting, I see his point but if the people don't what else have they got . Hopefully this is the start of the demise of Labour in it's current form,it's lost it's way and it's core voters . | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 14:13 - Sep 15 with 1552 views | Gwyn737 |
Here's the Express, probably our most right leaning paper on the numbers attending the protest (again quoting the Met figure of 110k)
Why would the Express allow the crowd size to be dramatically underestimated?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2108611/tommy-robinson-march-london-crowd-size
Two bridges, two streets and two squares. Does anyone really think that that can hold the entire population of Birmingham? Or pretty much the whole of Wales? | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:24 - Sep 15 with 1476 views | EagleEye |
| Unite The Kingdom on 14:13 - Sep 15 by Gwyn737 |
Here's the Express, probably our most right leaning paper on the numbers attending the protest (again quoting the Met figure of 110k)
Why would the Express allow the crowd size to be dramatically underestimated?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2108611/tommy-robinson-march-london-crowd-size
Two bridges, two streets and two squares. Does anyone really think that that can hold the entire population of Birmingham? Or pretty much the whole of Wales? |
A couple of the callers from my comment also mentioned that they had been on the Iraq war march back in the Blair days and stated that numbers were of similar scale. It’s difficult to say based our media reports who is right. I would expect the BBC & Sky to fall in line with underestimations though and align with the Met Police. A lot of Heddlu wagons on the M4 on the way back yesterday too. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:28 - Sep 15 with 1471 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:24 - Sep 15 by EagleEye |
A couple of the callers from my comment also mentioned that they had been on the Iraq war march back in the Blair days and stated that numbers were of similar scale. It’s difficult to say based our media reports who is right. I would expect the BBC & Sky to fall in line with underestimations though and align with the Met Police. A lot of Heddlu wagons on the M4 on the way back yesterday too. |
With numbers that large it’s difficult to accurately count. There were probably loads of people who joined the march then left and loads who turned up later etc. 3 million does sound wildly excessive but I’ve no doubt it was higher than the 110,000 quoted. | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 15:40 - Sep 15 with 1446 views | Gwyn737 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:24 - Sep 15 by EagleEye |
A couple of the callers from my comment also mentioned that they had been on the Iraq war march back in the Blair days and stated that numbers were of similar scale. It’s difficult to say based our media reports who is right. I would expect the BBC & Sky to fall in line with underestimations though and align with the Met Police. A lot of Heddlu wagons on the M4 on the way back yesterday too. |
That protest is hailed as the largest ever and the most generous figure for that one is a million. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:15 - Sep 15 with 1421 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 09:41 - Sep 15 by Gwyn737 |
Where did you see that, skipper? |
I can't find anything that says more than 150k | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:24 - Sep 15 with 1402 views | Gwyn737 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:15 - Sep 15 by SullutaCreturned |
I can't find anything that says more than 150k |
I know.
I doubted myself when Liam said the Met had confirmed 3 million but I can't see that anywhere.
If that was the case surely it would be plastered all over teh Mail/Express/Telegraph.
I appreciate I'm boring people now but the 3 million figure is insane.
If you just take Westminster bridge, if you really went for a daft density of 6 people crushed into a square metre, the bridge would hold 39,000 people. A more realistic figure would be 4 per square meter meaning the bridge would hold 26,000.
A crowd of 3 million would be 115 of those. A crowd of 150k would be 6 of those. That sounds about right to me. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 17:32 - Sep 15 with 1317 views | 1983 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 10:48 - Sep 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Although I support people’s right to peaceful protest and all that I do wonder what the point is with all these marches. Nothing ever changes, nobody ever listens. Millions marched on Downing Street to protest the Iraq war but they just ignored it. There were anti Brexit marches pretty much every week for years. It just doesn’t work.
You could have ten million marching and they still wouldn’t give a flying toss.
It’ll all come back to whack them squarely in the nuts on polling day though. |
The Poll Tax killed Maggie off. | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 17:36 - Sep 15 with 1309 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 17:32 - Sep 15 by 1983 |
The Poll Tax killed Maggie off. |
Strange though that people marched against the poll tax when council tax is even more unfair but there ya go. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 17:41 - Sep 15 with 1301 views | 1983 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 14:13 - Sep 15 by Gwyn737 |
Here's the Express, probably our most right leaning paper on the numbers attending the protest (again quoting the Met figure of 110k)
Why would the Express allow the crowd size to be dramatically underestimated?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2108611/tommy-robinson-march-london-crowd-size
Two bridges, two streets and two squares. Does anyone really think that that can hold the entire population of Birmingham? Or pretty much the whole of Wales? |
I agree with you Gwyn 3 million absolutely no way.
100,000 - 150,000 absolutely no way
Personally I reckon 250,000 -300,00 ish...now compared with other such similar rallies by Tommy Robinson...etc he usually musters up 5k-6k, that really has got to be looked at with different eyes now!
But I really think that march was the test by a lot of fence sitters to see if it was going to be a nazi hooligan fest (which it 100% wasnt)
Keep watching Gwyn
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| Unite The Kingdom on 18:26 - Sep 15 with 1260 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 17:41 - Sep 15 by 1983 |
I agree with you Gwyn 3 million absolutely no way.
100,000 - 150,000 absolutely no way
Personally I reckon 250,000 -300,00 ish...now compared with other such similar rallies by Tommy Robinson...etc he usually musters up 5k-6k, that really has got to be looked at with different eyes now!
But I really think that march was the test by a lot of fence sitters to see if it was going to be a nazi hooligan fest (which it 100% wasnt)
Keep watching Gwyn
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I kind of agree. people have had enough, we had 14 years of the tories and people were desperate for a change so they gave ;abour a big majority (even though a lot fewer voted than normal) and hoped Starmer would be as good as his word.
Now I've thought him a wet lettuce from the start but I gave him a chance but he has blundered from one catastrophe to another.
This thing today, the Ovenden resignation, the bloke rose from being a junior prrss officer to being Starmers director of political strategy and I have to ask, why do politicians need these people? Are they completely clueless about their own strategy?
Look at the advice they have been getting, the things Cummings told Bojo to do, we have idiots advising morons who then tell lies, they all do.
This today, Ovenden, it's put more voters in the Reform camp I'm fairly sure. As Starmer keeps blundering on he'll do ever more damage to Labour and Reform will reap the benefits.
Tommy Robinson is in the right place at the right time to ride the crest of that wave. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 11:06 - Sep 16 with 921 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 18:26 - Sep 15 by SullutaCreturned |
I kind of agree. people have had enough, we had 14 years of the tories and people were desperate for a change so they gave ;abour a big majority (even though a lot fewer voted than normal) and hoped Starmer would be as good as his word.
Now I've thought him a wet lettuce from the start but I gave him a chance but he has blundered from one catastrophe to another.
This thing today, the Ovenden resignation, the bloke rose from being a junior prrss officer to being Starmers director of political strategy and I have to ask, why do politicians need these people? Are they completely clueless about their own strategy?
Look at the advice they have been getting, the things Cummings told Bojo to do, we have idiots advising morons who then tell lies, they all do.
This today, Ovenden, it's put more voters in the Reform camp I'm fairly sure. As Starmer keeps blundering on he'll do ever more damage to Labour and Reform will reap the benefits.
Tommy Robinson is in the right place at the right time to ride the crest of that wave. |
Tommy is a agitator and not so bright. We have seen people like this cause havoc in Europe over the years. He has nothing to offer.
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| Unite The Kingdom on 12:20 - Sep 16 with 852 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Unite The Kingdom on 11:06 - Sep 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Tommy is a agitator and not so bright. We have seen people like this cause havoc in Europe over the years. He has nothing to offer.
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He’s not an unintelligent man. He was selected to train as an aircraft engineer and was very good at it by all accounts until he referred to type and was sacked for committing ABH. | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 13:06 - Sep 16 with 812 views | Flashberryjack |
| Unite The Kingdom on 11:06 - Sep 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Tommy is a agitator and not so bright. We have seen people like this cause havoc in Europe over the years. He has nothing to offer.
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There's a lot of truth in what he says, and he's not afraid to say it, he's been warning about grooming and rape gangs for ages, but it was brushed under the carpet by the tories and more so the present government.
Wether you agree or disagree, people should have the right to say what they think. |  |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 15:25 - Sep 16 with 706 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:24 - Sep 15 by Gwyn737 |
I know.
I doubted myself when Liam said the Met had confirmed 3 million but I can't see that anywhere.
If that was the case surely it would be plastered all over teh Mail/Express/Telegraph.
I appreciate I'm boring people now but the 3 million figure is insane.
If you just take Westminster bridge, if you really went for a daft density of 6 people crushed into a square metre, the bridge would hold 39,000 people. A more realistic figure would be 4 per square meter meaning the bridge would hold 26,000.
A crowd of 3 million would be 115 of those. A crowd of 150k would be 6 of those. That sounds about right to me. |
I have seen some different footgae today and to be fair, it does look like a lot more than 150k. It's actually easy to believe it could be as much as one million.
Like Joesus says tho, nobody in power is listening and instead they are actively downplaying and/or ignoring what is going on. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:18 - Sep 16 with 652 views | onehunglow |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:25 - Sep 16 by SullutaCreturned |
I have seen some different footgae today and to be fair, it does look like a lot more than 150k. It's actually easy to believe it could be as much as one million.
Like Joesus says tho, nobody in power is listening and instead they are actively downplaying and/or ignoring what is going on. |
150,000 is a lot of people , that bothered, they got off their arsrs to show they are concerned about the way we are going
Abbott and Corbyn want no controls at all | |
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| Unite The Kingdom on 16:54 - Sep 16 with 601 views | Gwyn737 |
| Unite The Kingdom on 15:25 - Sep 16 by SullutaCreturned |
I have seen some different footgae today and to be fair, it does look like a lot more than 150k. It's actually easy to believe it could be as much as one million.
Like Joesus says tho, nobody in power is listening and instead they are actively downplaying and/or ignoring what is going on. |
Some generalisation but from what I saw yesterday the majority of the protesters were male, white and between the ages of 18 and 75.
There are around 14 million in the country that fit into that group.
A million people means that 1 in every 14 from that group were there. | | | |
| Unite The Kingdom on 17:05 - Sep 16 with 573 views | Whiterockin |
| Unite The Kingdom on 16:54 - Sep 16 by Gwyn737 |
Some generalisation but from what I saw yesterday the majority of the protesters were male, white and between the ages of 18 and 75.
There are around 14 million in the country that fit into that group.
A million people means that 1 in every 14 from that group were there. |
The estimates I've seen are 110,000-150,000.
https://news.met.police.uk/news/update-26-officers-injured-in-disorder-at-centra |  | | |
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