| Consistency 12:29 - Sep 29 with 6191 views | stainrods_elbow |
QPR teams of the past (1982-83; 1993-95; 2010-11) have had it and been successful. Why don't we, and why is it so apparently hard to achieve? [Post edited 29 Sep 12:30]
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| Consistency on 16:28 - Sep 30 with 1668 views | FDC |
| Consistency on 16:08 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
One thing you're consistent at - painful, patronising, tediousness that erases itself from my brain as I read it, so full marks for that. |
One for the "LFW All Time Most Self Unaware Posts" hall of fame |  | | |
| Consistency on 16:43 - Sep 30 with 1610 views | TK1 |
| Consistency on 16:17 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
So the likes of Gerry Francis talked 'nonsense' then when he laid repeated emphasis on it, did he? No prizes for guessing who I'd take more seriously on the topic.
Some of the posters on here seem to think, because most people are by definition mediocre, there's no point in aspiring to excellence. Which is part of what makes/keeps them, and their aspirations, mediocre of course. It's no news that some of the fans are some of the problem at QPR, especially those who sport their whiny supposed realism as some kind of badge of adulthood/moral high ground. [Post edited 30 Sep 16:26]
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Gerry Francis was never truly consistent, he'd regularly go on long losing (or not winning) runs - most memorably in 1994 and then in 1999 when he won six games in six months. He had a knack for those losing runs at Spurs though too. If he laid "repeated emphasis" on positive consistency, it was hot air. |  | | |
| Consistency on 17:30 - Sep 30 with 1502 views | charmr |
He got 2 pages out of you all.
Anyone else see the irony of SE talking about consistency. | | | |
| Consistency on 17:36 - Sep 30 with 1490 views | E15Hoop |
| Consistency on 16:08 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
One thing you're consistent at - painful, patronising, tediousness that erases itself from my brain as I read it, so full marks for that. |
If that was actually true, presumably you wouldn't have bothered responding..  | | | |
| Consistency on 18:51 - Sep 30 with 1389 views | numptydumpty |
Quite often as well as being a term labelled over many Rangers teams and individuals, its also often thrown in the direction of the match officials. Referees interpretations of games can be very different, whilst all operate under the same guidelines and some their decisions within games can be dramatically at odds with other judgements, they make, in the same match.
Consistency in playing to ones strengths generally is because the players and managers are of a higher quality. But, particularly in the Championship, any team can win, lose or draw to any other team in the league. Confidence also can have a massive impact - both ways also.
However, we compare to our goodselves. Some work days, you could say we smashed it !!! And other times, it probably have been better for all concerned that we stayed at home. Basically, we are all human and obviously extends to the footballing world too.
Next question !!!!!  [Post edited 30 Sep 18:53]
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| Consistency on 19:28 - Sep 30 with 1331 views | qpr_1968 |
| Consistency on 16:14 - Sep 30 by BrianMcCarthy |
In any sport, consistency is the Holy Grail. The quest for it is what drives coaches mad. There are many reasons why we don't achieve it, and some of them are understandable, and even forgivable.
But what I can't understand or forgive is a lack of consistency in effort.
And let's face it - Rangers have been guilty of that over and over and over again. |
in other words, we are consistently inconsistent. | |
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| Consistency on 19:38 - Sep 30 with 1310 views | charmr |
Players/teams at the highest level are there for numerous reasons. Playing at their optimum level and making fewest errors every game being 2 of them. Lot of players/teams can’t or don’t do that every game. Add a bit of good fortune as well into the mix. | | | |
| Consistency on 19:56 - Sep 30 with 1277 views | KensalT |
The original post can't seem to tell the difference between excellence and mediocrity.
Quelle ironie.
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| Consistency on 22:31 - Sep 30 with 1153 views | GroveR |
| Consistency on 12:38 - Sep 29 by TheChef |
Depends how you define consistency, but I still think you're asking too much.
Even the 2010-11 champions got gumped 4-1 at Scunthorpe, lost at home to Watford, slender 1-0 wins at Barnsley and Doncaster that easily could have gone the other way.
This QPR team is unbeaten in September, I'd say that's not a bad level of consistency? Should improve their confidence - but we've got tougher games coming up so it's not going to get any easier. |
That 2011/12 team had something more valuable than consistency
- they could post points when you least expected it. Completely agree Barnsley and Doncaster were poor from is but they would be classic QPR banana-skins any other season. Derby and Reading away were funny unless you were supporting either of them. Leicester at home and Portsmouth away - they're all fixtures any other QPR team in the last 30 years loses. |  | | |
| Consistency on 22:54 - Sep 30 with 1111 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 16:43 - Sep 30 by TK1 |
Gerry Francis was never truly consistent, he'd regularly go on long losing (or not winning) runs - most memorably in 1994 and then in 1999 when he won six games in six months. He had a knack for those losing runs at Spurs though too. If he laid "repeated emphasis" on positive consistency, it was hot air. |
I didn't say he achieved it all the time - and his 2nd spell with us is probably best forgotten - I said he emphasised it as a value, and how important it was to aim for it, so you're missing my point. In any event, it's teams/players who are consistent, rather obviously, not managers. | |
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| Consistency on 22:56 - Sep 30 with 1103 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 16:28 - Sep 30 by FDC |
One for the "LFW All Time Most Self Unaware Posts" hall of fame |
Good for you! Another poster who can't/won't address the topic of the thread, but would rather engage in petty vindictiveness/ad hominem point-scoring. I'm sure you think you're wonderful either way regardless. | |
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| Consistency on 22:58 - Sep 30 with 1085 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 17:36 - Sep 30 by E15Hoop |
If that was actually true, presumably you wouldn't have bothered responding.. |
One could write a (hideous) PhD on petty posters with little or nothing to say about a thread topic (other than abusing the poster) who somehow feel they become more amusing/intelliigent/effective writers by adding chuckling emojis to their pointless remarks. | |
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| Consistency on 23:00 - Sep 30 with 1081 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 19:56 - Sep 30 by KensalT |
The original post can't seem to tell the difference between excellence and mediocrity.
Quelle ironie.
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Amuisngly, you yourself seem to be precisely missing the fine irony of the quote you cite. Thanks for proving my point for me so eloquently. | |
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| Consistency on 00:27 - Oct 1 with 1023 views | KensalT |
| Consistency on 23:00 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
Amuisngly, you yourself seem to be precisely missing the fine irony of the quote you cite. Thanks for proving my point for me so eloquently. |
Ah bless.
More to be pitied than scorned.
I think most of my fellow intellectual lightweights grasped that my earlier post was a comment on your intellectual mediocrity.
Since this seems to have passed under your intellectual radar I will do my humblest bestest to frame it in terms that you might understand.
The point of Giraudoux's quote (which you wrongly believe I misunderstood) is that the truly exceptional are always trying to improve themselves whilst the mediocre are happy to chug along in their comfort zone.
So riddle me this.
Why are you frittering away your philosophical talents on us ungrateful simpletons who are only here for the football when there are so many philosophy forums out there where you could be sharpening your intellect and dazzling your peers with your virtuosity?
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| Consistency on 05:23 - Oct 1 with 919 views | E15Hoop |
| Consistency on 00:27 - Oct 1 by KensalT |
Ah bless.
More to be pitied than scorned.
I think most of my fellow intellectual lightweights grasped that my earlier post was a comment on your intellectual mediocrity.
Since this seems to have passed under your intellectual radar I will do my humblest bestest to frame it in terms that you might understand.
The point of Giraudoux's quote (which you wrongly believe I misunderstood) is that the truly exceptional are always trying to improve themselves whilst the mediocre are happy to chug along in their comfort zone.
So riddle me this.
Why are you frittering away your philosophical talents on us ungrateful simpletons who are only here for the football when there are so many philosophy forums out there where you could be sharpening your intellect and dazzling your peers with your virtuosity?
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Well said that man!  | | | |
| Consistency on 05:30 - Oct 1 with 913 views | E15Hoop |
| Consistency on 22:58 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
One could write a (hideous) PhD on petty posters with little or nothing to say about a thread topic (other than abusing the poster) who somehow feel they become more amusing/intelliigent/effective writers by adding chuckling emojis to their pointless remarks. |
And when you do finally get around to publishing this magnum opus, I sincerely hope you will be giving me the official credit (and related royalties) I deserve for having inspired what will (of course) be a massively money-spinning major contribution to the intellectual body of thought on this crucial topic | | | |
| Consistency on 08:51 - Oct 1 with 755 views | Bluce_Ree |
| Consistency on 16:12 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
The only way to get some consistency is to outspend the competition. Get the best players, get the best results. But then look at Man City and Man Utd. They're spending plenty and not getting consistency.
Hilarious! Do you teach courses in elementary self-contradiction? |
Okay, okay. Let's get the foot off of the c*nt pedal there, Elbow. |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Consistency on 11:05 - Oct 1 with 664 views | Rsole |
| Consistency on 08:51 - Oct 1 by Bluce_Ree |
Okay, okay. Let's get the foot off of the c*nt pedal there, Elbow. |
Crikey, I’ve been spelling clutch wrong for years. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Consistency on 12:40 - Oct 1 with 563 views | Northernr |
| Consistency on 16:10 - Sep 30 by stainrods_elbow |
I trhink it's the opposite - if anything it's a weirdly under-explored concept. Which is why, apparently, everyone at the club is unable to explain why we only play in patches, including the manager. |
Well, you're kind of arguing with the definition of the word.
Sheffield United have been really, really consistent this season. |  | | |
| Consistency on 13:05 - Oct 1 with 522 views | KensalT |
| Consistency on 12:40 - Oct 1 by Northernr |
Well, you're kind of arguing with the definition of the word.
Sheffield United have been really, really consistent this season. |
I think the Elbow has confused himself with this one.
His original post suggests that a lack of consistency is a bad thing.
But Giraudoux's comment about mediocrity suggests that the pursuit of excellence entails a lack of consistency because in trying to be better you need to take risks and sometimes fail or fall below your usual standard.
So by that logic our lack of consistency could be considered a good thing!
In which case Sheffield United are really going to come good at some point this season.
Just like Luton did last season  | | | |
| Consistency on 13:25 - Oct 1 with 494 views | kensalriser |
The inconsistency is consistent since it's the usual pattern of most clubs most of the time. There are too many variables and the margins too fine to be otherwise.
Imagine flipping a coin 100 times. What do you think the chances are of the coin landing the same side up every time? And then the superficially consistent perfect alternate sequence of heads/tails? Exactly the same. By far the most likely sequence will be a random distribution of small clusters on one side and then the other. Football is largely the same. |  |
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| Consistency on 13:46 - Oct 1 with 445 views | charmr |
Consistency in football is the making of or not making errors in relation to the space (standard of football) you are doing them in.
Think of Joe Lumley. think of Paddy Kenny | | | |
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