| Consistency 12:29 - Sep 29 with 3065 views | stainrods_elbow |
QPR teams of the past (1982-83; 1993-95; 2010-11) have had it and been successful. Why don't we, and why is it so apparently hard to achieve? [Post edited 29 Sep 12:30]
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| Consistency on 12:38 - Sep 29 with 2405 views | TheChef |
Depends how you define consistency, but I still think you're asking too much.
Even the 2010-11 champions got gumped 4-1 at Scunthorpe, lost at home to Watford, slender 1-0 wins at Barnsley and Doncaster that easily could have gone the other way.
This QPR team is unbeaten in September, I'd say that's not a bad level of consistency? Should improve their confidence - but we've got tougher games coming up so it's not going to get any easier. |  |
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| Consistency on 12:40 - Sep 29 with 2398 views | E15Hoop |
If you went back and dissected those seasons game by game, you would find plenty of ropey passages of play by us.
As usual, you are painting a ridiculously black and white picture of something far more nuanced.
As was communicated to you very clearly on another thread, even you as a self-proclaimed "perfectionist, who is always looking to improve" have plenty of off days where you're nowhere near your (allegedly) brilliant best self.
Why are you trying to hold others to a standard which you yourself can't achieve?
Its called being human - you should try it sometime..
By the way- spoiler alert - we didn't actually lose on Saturday.. |  | | |
| Consistency on 13:17 - Sep 29 with 2300 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Consistency on 12:40 - Sep 29 by E15Hoop |
If you went back and dissected those seasons game by game, you would find plenty of ropey passages of play by us.
As usual, you are painting a ridiculously black and white picture of something far more nuanced.
As was communicated to you very clearly on another thread, even you as a self-proclaimed "perfectionist, who is always looking to improve" have plenty of off days where you're nowhere near your (allegedly) brilliant best self.
Why are you trying to hold others to a standard which you yourself can't achieve?
Its called being human - you should try it sometime..
By the way- spoiler alert - we didn't actually lose on Saturday.. |
Case in point:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/12945053 |  | | |
| Consistency on 13:22 - Sep 29 with 2283 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Could be 13 out of 15 points come Wednesday night. | | | |
| Consistency on 13:29 - Sep 29 with 2247 views | SK_hoops |
10 points out of a possible 12 seems pretty consistent to me. | | | |
| Consistency on 13:56 - Sep 29 with 2180 views | terryb |
I don't think we have been consistent in many of the near 60 years I've been watching Rangers!
I would also say that you are quoting periods when Rangers won the second division (championship) or finished towards the top of the Premier (first division). I don't think many others would compare the team of today with the second & third best teams in our history! | | | |
| Consistency on 15:57 - Sep 29 with 2018 views | Bukim_Dano |
Not sure there will be too many consistent teams in what is looking to be an unpredictable start to the season in the Championship.
When the fixture list came out it looked like our early-season opponents would be relatively easy and November was going to be tough.
As it stands, by the end of the week we will have already played 5 of the (currently) top 7 teams.
Meanwhile our opponents in November are currently 12, 19, 24,18, 20, 14th the table.
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| Consistency on 16:53 - Sep 29 with 1883 views | Northernr |
It's an interestingly overused word in football. Every manager says his team need to be more consistent. The Redknapp and Hughes QPR in 2012/13 were super consistent - lost every game, won four times all season. Plymouth were really consistent last season.
If we look at last season's Championship table the top three were really consistent (Leeds, Burnley, Sheff Utd) accumulating a ridiculous 290 points between them and losing only five times at home collectively.
Cardiff and Plymouth also very consistent. Just two away wins each.
Basically everybody else in the league won as many as they lost.
It's like the '20 goal a season striker' that every team apparently needs, while only two existed in the whole EFL last season and ten teams managed to get promoted without one. |  | | |
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| Consistency on 17:20 - Sep 29 with 1825 views | colinallcars |
We need a seasoned striker. Perhaps a dash of himalayan salt with malt vinegar and just the merest hint of black pepper. |  | | |
| Consistency on 17:27 - Sep 29 with 1810 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| Consistency on 12:40 - Sep 29 by E15Hoop |
If you went back and dissected those seasons game by game, you would find plenty of ropey passages of play by us.
As usual, you are painting a ridiculously black and white picture of something far more nuanced.
As was communicated to you very clearly on another thread, even you as a self-proclaimed "perfectionist, who is always looking to improve" have plenty of off days where you're nowhere near your (allegedly) brilliant best self.
Why are you trying to hold others to a standard which you yourself can't achieve?
Its called being human - you should try it sometime..
By the way- spoiler alert - we didn't actually lose on Saturday.. |
I'm human and I've been 100% consistent this season. Every one of my predictions in the prediction league has been wrong. |  | | |
| Consistency on 17:38 - Sep 29 with 1756 views | FDC |
By "being consistent" I assume we mean "consistently win"? Which, you know, would be great, but would also mean running away with the league. |  | | |
| Consistency on 17:56 - Sep 29 with 1708 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Rubbish post. We have been consistently inconsistent for as long as I have supported QPR. | |
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| Consistency on 18:01 - Sep 29 with 1691 views | Superhoop83 |
I loved all of those seasons but even then we had some terrible results, some bad runs and some dreadful results.
In 1982/83 we lost 3 of 4 games over the Christmas period including 0-4 at Wolves and a home defeat to Chelsea. In 1993/94 we won 2 of our last 10 matches and we started 1994/95 with 1 win in 11. Then again, we were fairly consistent between April and October 1994! |  |
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| Consistency on 18:23 - Sep 29 with 1649 views | TK1 |
| Consistency on 18:01 - Sep 29 by Superhoop83 |
I loved all of those seasons but even then we had some terrible results, some bad runs and some dreadful results.
In 1982/83 we lost 3 of 4 games over the Christmas period including 0-4 at Wolves and a home defeat to Chelsea. In 1993/94 we won 2 of our last 10 matches and we started 1994/95 with 1 win in 11. Then again, we were fairly consistent between April and October 1994! |
Exactly.
1982/83: Lost nine league games (two more than 2nd place Wolves) and the natives were not dancing in the streets when we were knocked out against Rotherham in our first round of league cup and WBA third round of FA Cup
1994/95: won one match between August 20 and 29th October: that's one win and six defeats from 11. Imagine what it would be like on here if that summer and autumn was repeated now, and what SE's posts would consist of. Still finished eighth because nothing is decided in September nor by consistency. | | | |
| Consistency on 09:28 - Sep 30 with 1183 views | Bluce_Ree |
"Why don't we, and why is it so apparently hard to achieve?"
We're in a league of 23 other teams. Each one of those teams has a manager trying his best, a scouting network, training staff. They're all doing what we're doing. Why would we be consistent? There's no reason to be.
The only way to get some consistency is to outspend the competition. Get the best players, get the best results. But then look at Man City and Man Utd. They're spending plenty and not getting consistency.
QPR can try their very best on the pitch but the other team are doing the same and might make the game hard for us. It's like fighting. A good fighter can make another good fighter look ordinary. |  |
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| Consistency on 10:24 - Sep 30 with 1053 views | dm97 |
| Consistency on 16:53 - Sep 29 by Northernr |
It's an interestingly overused word in football. Every manager says his team need to be more consistent. The Redknapp and Hughes QPR in 2012/13 were super consistent - lost every game, won four times all season. Plymouth were really consistent last season.
If we look at last season's Championship table the top three were really consistent (Leeds, Burnley, Sheff Utd) accumulating a ridiculous 290 points between them and losing only five times at home collectively.
Cardiff and Plymouth also very consistent. Just two away wins each.
Basically everybody else in the league won as many as they lost.
It's like the '20 goal a season striker' that every team apparently needs, while only two existed in the whole EFL last season and ten teams managed to get promoted without one. |
Football cliches klaxon indeed. Basically the top 3/4 of every division and bottom 3/4 of every division are consistently good or consistently bad. You can swap a discussion about consistency for discussion about quality and end up at the exact same place.
A nonsense topic perpetuated by the talking heads on soccer Saturday who don’t have original points to make. |  | | |
| Consistency on 10:43 - Sep 30 with 1008 views | Paddyhoops |
We have the budget of a mid to lower table championship club.
I’d say it goes with the territory. The lack of it , I mean .
4 points from the next two would be superb but knowing us we’ll do it arse about tit.
One tomorrow and three on Saturday . | | | |
| Consistency on 12:14 - Sep 30 with 886 views | davman |
| Consistency on 12:38 - Sep 29 by TheChef |
Depends how you define consistency, but I still think you're asking too much.
Even the 2010-11 champions got gumped 4-1 at Scunthorpe, lost at home to Watford, slender 1-0 wins at Barnsley and Doncaster that easily could have gone the other way.
This QPR team is unbeaten in September, I'd say that's not a bad level of consistency? Should improve their confidence - but we've got tougher games coming up so it's not going to get any easier. |
Confidence is the key word with this team. That goes a long, long way in the Championship... |  |
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| Consistency on 12:54 - Sep 30 with 786 views | E17hoop |
If you need say 90 points to get promoted, that means you need to win a consistent 1.956 points per game. We didn't do that on Saturday. We didn't do it the previous week either when we exceed the required target.
Horrendously inconsistent. |  |
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| Consistency on 15:37 - Sep 30 with 589 views | kensalriser |
| Consistency on 09:28 - Sep 30 by Bluce_Ree |
"Why don't we, and why is it so apparently hard to achieve?"
We're in a league of 23 other teams. Each one of those teams has a manager trying his best, a scouting network, training staff. They're all doing what we're doing. Why would we be consistent? There's no reason to be.
The only way to get some consistency is to outspend the competition. Get the best players, get the best results. But then look at Man City and Man Utd. They're spending plenty and not getting consistency.
QPR can try their very best on the pitch but the other team are doing the same and might make the game hard for us. It's like fighting. A good fighter can make another good fighter look ordinary. |
Good last line. Similarly, the concept behind one of the silliest football cliches (and this against stiff competition), the flat track bully.
As if it isn't blindingly obvious that very good players tend to do better against lesser players than they do against other very good players. |  |
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| Consistency on 16:08 - Sep 30 with 527 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 12:40 - Sep 29 by E15Hoop |
If you went back and dissected those seasons game by game, you would find plenty of ropey passages of play by us.
As usual, you are painting a ridiculously black and white picture of something far more nuanced.
As was communicated to you very clearly on another thread, even you as a self-proclaimed "perfectionist, who is always looking to improve" have plenty of off days where you're nowhere near your (allegedly) brilliant best self.
Why are you trying to hold others to a standard which you yourself can't achieve?
Its called being human - you should try it sometime..
By the way- spoiler alert - we didn't actually lose on Saturday.. |
One thing you're consistent at - painful, patronising, tediousness that erases itself from my brain as I read it, so full marks for that. | |
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| Consistency on 16:10 - Sep 30 with 521 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 16:53 - Sep 29 by Northernr |
It's an interestingly overused word in football. Every manager says his team need to be more consistent. The Redknapp and Hughes QPR in 2012/13 were super consistent - lost every game, won four times all season. Plymouth were really consistent last season.
If we look at last season's Championship table the top three were really consistent (Leeds, Burnley, Sheff Utd) accumulating a ridiculous 290 points between them and losing only five times at home collectively.
Cardiff and Plymouth also very consistent. Just two away wins each.
Basically everybody else in the league won as many as they lost.
It's like the '20 goal a season striker' that every team apparently needs, while only two existed in the whole EFL last season and ten teams managed to get promoted without one. |
I trhink it's the opposite - if anything it's a weirdly under-explored concept. Which is why, apparently, everyone at the club is unable to explain why we only play in patches, including the manager. | |
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| Consistency on 16:12 - Sep 30 with 508 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 09:28 - Sep 30 by Bluce_Ree |
"Why don't we, and why is it so apparently hard to achieve?"
We're in a league of 23 other teams. Each one of those teams has a manager trying his best, a scouting network, training staff. They're all doing what we're doing. Why would we be consistent? There's no reason to be.
The only way to get some consistency is to outspend the competition. Get the best players, get the best results. But then look at Man City and Man Utd. They're spending plenty and not getting consistency.
QPR can try their very best on the pitch but the other team are doing the same and might make the game hard for us. It's like fighting. A good fighter can make another good fighter look ordinary. |
The only way to get some consistency is to outspend the competition. Get the best players, get the best results. But then look at Man City and Man Utd. They're spending plenty and not getting consistency.
Hilarious! Do you teach courses in elementary self-contradiction? | |
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| Consistency on 16:14 - Sep 30 with 496 views | BrianMcCarthy |
In any sport, consistency is the Holy Grail. The quest for it is what drives coaches mad. There are many reasons why we don't achieve it, and some of them are understandable, and even forgivable.
But what I can't understand or forgive is a lack of consistency in effort.
And let's face it - Rangers have been guilty of that over and over and over again. |  |
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| Consistency on 16:17 - Sep 30 with 489 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Consistency on 10:24 - Sep 30 by dm97 |
Football cliches klaxon indeed. Basically the top 3/4 of every division and bottom 3/4 of every division are consistently good or consistently bad. You can swap a discussion about consistency for discussion about quality and end up at the exact same place.
A nonsense topic perpetuated by the talking heads on soccer Saturday who don’t have original points to make. |
So the likes of Gerry Francis talked 'nonsense' then when he laid repeated emphasis on it, did he? No prizes for guessing who I'd take more seriously on the topic.
Some of the posters on here seem to think, because most people are by definition mediocre, there's no point in aspiring to excellence. Which is part of what makes/keeps them, and their aspirations, mediocre of course. It's no news that some of the fans are some of the problem at QPR, especially those who sport their whiny supposed realism as some kind of badge of adulthood/moral high ground. [Post edited 30 Sep 16:26]
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