| Ceasefire in effect 11:42 - Oct 10 with 821 views | Southamptonfan |
Whatever people say about Trump, he has enabled a ceasefire, the release of hostages and a stop to the killing and starvation of children. His threats to Hamas, and grabbing these fighting countries by the scruff of the neck have worked. He said he would bring hell to Hamas if they didn't release the hostages. You have to fight fire with fire, Trump might be fire, but that's the only thing that other fires respond to!
Whilst Starmer, Macron, previous Tory PM's and other EU leaders go round and round in circles having meetings, saying things time and time again, being polite and diplomatic, but never doing, Trump just gets it done like a steam train. That approach is needed sometimes IMO. I don't follow one person and neither left nor right, I just see what I see. I see a ceasefire arranged, an end to the fighting and hostages released. I see thousands of people returning to Gaza on the news with aid approved. This is great news.
Sometimes the means to an end (threats, force, "bullying") doesn't matter, if the end is so positive. This is where other leaders get stuck. They don't like to threaten, or get tough, and then they get absolutely nowhere. [Post edited 10 Oct 11:52]
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| Ceasefire in effect on 12:06 - Oct 10 with 756 views | kingslandstand1 |
Well he didn't get this year's Nobel Peace Prize that he was no doubt trying to get (ok, probably a bit late with the cease fire as award announced this morning) as it went to some Venezuelan woman |  |
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| Ceasefire in effect on 12:11 - Oct 10 with 754 views | Southamptonfan |
| Ceasefire in effect on 12:06 - Oct 10 by kingslandstand1 |
Well he didn't get this year's Nobel Peace Prize that he was no doubt trying to get (ok, probably a bit late with the cease fire as award announced this morning) as it went to some Venezuelan woman |
The ceasefire was only arranged today, so too late for this year, and we need to see if there is continued peace. But I don't care if his intention is to win the peace prize. Wouldn't it be great if Saints had a manager / owner who wanted the prize for best manager and therefore winning the league! And by whatever means. [Post edited 10 Oct 12:15]
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| Ceasefire in effect on 12:21 - Oct 10 with 729 views | 1teeminants |
Trump is an annoying bloke who has a massive ego but he gets people talking to each other which can only be a good thing . Like anything in life if you can get a problem out in the open and talk you’re halfway there . Fair play to him I say .
I can’t stand that dictator Putin but Trump has had many meetings with him which can only be good rather than continually slagging each other off. [Post edited 10 Oct 12:27]
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| Ceasefire in effect on 13:03 - Oct 10 with 662 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Ceasefire in effect on 12:11 - Oct 10 by Southamptonfan |
The ceasefire was only arranged today, so too late for this year, and we need to see if there is continued peace. But I don't care if his intention is to win the peace prize. Wouldn't it be great if Saints had a manager / owner who wanted the prize for best manager and therefore winning the league! And by whatever means. [Post edited 10 Oct 12:15]
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I'd take that!!
But I agree re your sentiment withTrump, definitely a Marmite character but does what he says he's going to do, and does it his way. No committee's, no advisors (well ok,there must be some), but he'll tread on anybody to achieve his goals | |
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| Ceasefire in effect on 13:07 - Oct 10 with 658 views | SonicBoom |
If anyone thinks that he's ended this war they're deluded. Israel has wanted the extinction of Palestine for years. Are we supposed to believe they are suddenly going to stop the bombing when they think they're winning and start playing nice.
I expect they want hostages back then it'll start again. There won't be any peace whilst Netanyahu is in charge. |  | | |
| Ceasefire in effect on 13:07 - Oct 10 with 655 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Ceasefire in effect on 12:21 - Oct 10 by 1teeminants |
Trump is an annoying bloke who has a massive ego but he gets people talking to each other which can only be a good thing . Like anything in life if you can get a problem out in the open and talk you’re halfway there . Fair play to him I say .
I can’t stand that dictator Putin but Trump has had many meetings with him which can only be good rather than continually slagging each other off. [Post edited 10 Oct 12:27]
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Probably Chinese whispers and conspiracy theories, but hasn't Putin got some sort of hold on Trump over his business deals?
And re Putin, he's just a nasty piece of work who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him over any peace negotiations. I mean why did he put all those troops on the Belarus/Poland border? [Post edited 10 Oct 13:07]
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| Ceasefire in effect on 13:09 - Oct 10 with 640 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Ceasefire in effect on 13:07 - Oct 10 by SonicBoom |
If anyone thinks that he's ended this war they're deluded. Israel has wanted the extinction of Palestine for years. Are we supposed to believe they are suddenly going to stop the bombing when they think they're winning and start playing nice.
I expect they want hostages back then it'll start again. There won't be any peace whilst Netanyahu is in charge. |
Hasn't Netanyahu already said that no matter what he's still determined to get rid of Hamas? I may be wrong there but I'm sure I heard that earlier this week | |
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| Ceasefire in effect on 13:26 - Oct 10 with 620 views | Southamptonfan |
| Ceasefire in effect on 13:03 - Oct 10 by kingslandstand1 |
I'd take that!!
But I agree re your sentiment withTrump, definitely a Marmite character but does what he says he's going to do, and does it his way. No committee's, no advisors (well ok,there must be some), but he'll tread on anybody to achieve his goals |
Continuing our little link with football and Saints, if Saints stopped f@cking about, looking at data on a computer screen, sending scouts across the world, having meetings - all a complete waste of time and just bought a proven striker at the level we are at, just get on with it and do it, we might be in a better place. [Post edited 10 Oct 13:27]
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| Ceasefire in effect on 13:34 - Oct 10 with 605 views | Southamptonfan |
| Ceasefire in effect on 13:07 - Oct 10 by SonicBoom |
If anyone thinks that he's ended this war they're deluded. Israel has wanted the extinction of Palestine for years. Are we supposed to believe they are suddenly going to stop the bombing when they think they're winning and start playing nice.
I expect they want hostages back then it'll start again. There won't be any peace whilst Netanyahu is in charge. |
At least he's trying. There is a ceasefire. An end to the starvation and killing, for now at least. How many meetings has there been between EU leaders over the last 3 years and nothing, absolutely nothing done. Trump just gets on with it, and for that that I applaud him. [Post edited 10 Oct 13:44]
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| Ceasefire in effect on 20:39 - Oct 10 with 400 views | kernow |
It’s good that the killing and genocide has , hopefully, stopped and that living hostages can be returned.
Will this be a permanent peace? History suggests it won’t.
Attitudes have hardened and extremism prevails.
It’s an existential struggle that is not yet resolved. | | | |
| Ceasefire in effect on 11:11 - Oct 11 with 238 views | sledger |
israel has to listen to trump,without american support they would be screwed | | | |
| Ceasefire in effect on 17:47 - Oct 11 with 125 views | Number_58 |
| Ceasefire in effect on 11:11 - Oct 11 by sledger |
israel has to listen to trump,without american support they would be screwed |
And without Trump flogging all those weapons to Israel it might have ended a bit earlier possibly. Trump openly boasted the other day that America is making a fortune out of these wars. To be honest, he could cure world poverty and end all wars but he'd still be a Grade A c**t. |  | | |
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