| One in one out scheme 13:19 - Oct 10 with 2219 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
So one day this week. 1000 boat people arrived and Upto 26 were removed.
This equates to 2.6% of all those travelling.
The migrant has invested £1000 having a very scary experience of possible drowning and being kept in confinement for a while and then given a bunk somewhere. There is only a 3,% chance of immediate failure and return after all that and another unknown chance of failure 1 year down the line
So what level of return risk would you consider unreasonable if you were a fit male of 35 who cannot swim. If the return risk was 30% not 3 % I think many would look at giving up on the UK
As they say on those podcast videos. What percentage do you think.?
I can see why France is not too vexed about boat migration number just to spite Farage. But what has France got to lose on increasing the return policy by ten times.?
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| One in one out scheme on 13:56 - Oct 10 with 1652 views | mangohilljack |
End mass illegal immigration full stop. There’s no middle ground, and this “one in, one out” nonsense is exactly that nonsense.
Take decisive action now, or face losing the next election. It’s really that simple. |  | | |
| One in one out scheme on 15:57 - Oct 10 with 1593 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| One in one out scheme on 13:56 - Oct 10 by mangohilljack |
End mass illegal immigration full stop. There’s no middle ground, and this “one in, one out” nonsense is exactly that nonsense.
Take decisive action now, or face losing the next election. It’s really that simple. |
You are talking " outcomes". I am talking "mechanisms".
"End illegal migration full stop" is a empty slogan as useless as "we will smash the gangs "
Another mechanism is digital ID cards. Some will talk like you then object to the methodology proposed to do it. The trouble with the flag people is that they themselves have issues with UK.law I suspect.. A stash of Ganga here and illegal motor there and of course the black market jobs or hobble as they are known is South Wales. | |
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| One in one out scheme on 20:58 - Oct 10 with 1539 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| One in one out scheme on 15:57 - Oct 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are talking " outcomes". I am talking "mechanisms".
"End illegal migration full stop" is a empty slogan as useless as "we will smash the gangs "
Another mechanism is digital ID cards. Some will talk like you then object to the methodology proposed to do it. The trouble with the flag people is that they themselves have issues with UK.law I suspect.. A stash of Ganga here and illegal motor there and of course the black market jobs or hobble as they are known is South Wales. |
I think that people working illegally won't need to produce a digital ID card. We need more slogans:
Smash the Boats
Eat the Gangs
Scan their Eyeballs
Deflate the Dingy
Saute the French |  |
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| One in one out scheme on 21:02 - Oct 10 with 1527 views | majorraglan |
| One in one out scheme on 13:56 - Oct 10 by mangohilljack |
End mass illegal immigration full stop. There’s no middle ground, and this “one in, one out” nonsense is exactly that nonsense.
Take decisive action now, or face losing the next election. It’s really that simple. |
Recently, there was an interview on the radio with an ex British serviceman who runs a charity to do with migrants. To Understand the issues he went to Germany where many of the people smugglers are based to find out more about the issues and how to stop it. He spoke to a number of the people doing the smuggling and some of the people looking to come over.
After researching the issues, his views were that it was going to be almost impossible to stop. The “boat people” are told and believe a kind of Dick Whittington type story that they can come to London and almost immediately start to earn thousands and thousands of pounds. Theres no counter narrative and all they hear are the promises of a better life, endless wealth etc etc. the people smugglers don’t care because they are coining it in.
Can we stop it? I don’t know if I am being honest. The illegals who were stowing away on Lorrie’s and campervans have been stopped, but they’ve now changed tactics and are coming on dinghies. This guy did say things are likely to get worse because the smugglers had invested in much bigger boats ready for next year. I think addressing the possibility of working is the only way. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 21:40 - Oct 10 with 1512 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| One in one out scheme on 21:02 - Oct 10 by majorraglan |
Recently, there was an interview on the radio with an ex British serviceman who runs a charity to do with migrants. To Understand the issues he went to Germany where many of the people smugglers are based to find out more about the issues and how to stop it. He spoke to a number of the people doing the smuggling and some of the people looking to come over.
After researching the issues, his views were that it was going to be almost impossible to stop. The “boat people” are told and believe a kind of Dick Whittington type story that they can come to London and almost immediately start to earn thousands and thousands of pounds. Theres no counter narrative and all they hear are the promises of a better life, endless wealth etc etc. the people smugglers don’t care because they are coining it in.
Can we stop it? I don’t know if I am being honest. The illegals who were stowing away on Lorrie’s and campervans have been stopped, but they’ve now changed tactics and are coming on dinghies. This guy did say things are likely to get worse because the smugglers had invested in much bigger boats ready for next year. I think addressing the possibility of working is the only way. |
No ID card no services. Will stop it.
No services like NHS, schooling, benefits accomodation, prescription , Car licencing, MOT road tax. passport, travel , credit card debit cards banking.
I am a taxpayer and want the digital ID card. Without these services to cannot live normally and people will volunteer to leave.
The current line is without it " you cannot work". I want to see without our it " you cannot claim any services" .
You gave to give up some privacy but there are maybe 1 m or more unregistered people in UK paying no tax and using services at taxpayers expense. | |
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| One in one out scheme on 22:24 - Oct 10 with 1491 views | Whiterockin |
| One in one out scheme on 21:40 - Oct 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No ID card no services. Will stop it.
No services like NHS, schooling, benefits accomodation, prescription , Car licencing, MOT road tax. passport, travel , credit card debit cards banking.
I am a taxpayer and want the digital ID card. Without these services to cannot live normally and people will volunteer to leave.
The current line is without it " you cannot work". I want to see without our it " you cannot claim any services" .
You gave to give up some privacy but there are maybe 1 m or more unregistered people in UK paying no tax and using services at taxpayers expense. |
You do realise that the majority of cars being driven without tax, insurance and mots are illegals. They came in illegally so passports mean nothing and they deal in cash not credit or debit cards. You need to get in the real world. |  | | |
| One in one out scheme on 01:40 - Oct 11 with 1430 views | Robbie |
Never ever criticise an illegal immigrant landing on UK shores these days .
You are straight away branded a racist by so many Lefties and the do gooders ,
The honest conversion by the general public will never be aired properly and the neutral stance will follow by most media outlets .
I have heard so many comments on the Hotels crisis and these illegals it beggars belief .
State it in Public though is another minefield .
A Pilipino cleaner on the Wards at Morriston Hospital Renal unit looked out and talked to my mother before my mum passed away naturally .
Question Time on the Beeb this week discussing the Welfare costs upcoming in the future years and it seems evidence of 18 years olds claimg stress issues , I am unfit for work and I want to claim my benefits .
Another quote was they start claiming at that age , why should I bother to be a janitor and get out of bed in the morning .
As per usual the decent people who want to work legally are being outnumbered by the soon incoming chancers , hey the UK is rife for Cannibis farms and car washes .
Good luck Starmer trying to close the floodgates . | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 10:12 - Oct 11 with 1348 views | mangohilljack |
| One in one out scheme on 15:57 - Oct 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are talking " outcomes". I am talking "mechanisms".
"End illegal migration full stop" is a empty slogan as useless as "we will smash the gangs "
Another mechanism is digital ID cards. Some will talk like you then object to the methodology proposed to do it. The trouble with the flag people is that they themselves have issues with UK.law I suspect.. A stash of Ganga here and illegal motor there and of course the black market jobs or hobble as they are known is South Wales. |
It’s not an empty slogan, it’s what the majority of people in the UK actually want. And let’s be honest, it’s not difficult to achieve if the government truly had the will to do it.
Digital ID as the answer? Hardly. The entire mass migration saga — ongoing for over 20 years — has been a carefully laid path towards implementing digital ID. Once that’s in place, we’ll be one step closer to a social credit system straight out of China’s playbook.
If you genuinely think that’s the solution, then you’re even more deluded than I originally thought.
As for the rest of your post not worth engaging with; it’s pure nonsense. | | | |
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| One in one out scheme on 12:35 - Oct 11 with 1313 views | KeithHaynes |
| One in one out scheme on 20:58 - Oct 10 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I think that people working illegally won't need to produce a digital ID card. We need more slogans:
Smash the Boats
Eat the Gangs
Scan their Eyeballs
Deflate the Dingy
Saute the French |
And make sure the BBC aware so they are on a French beach at 7am in the morning to film it.
Propaganda and very poor at that. |  |
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| One in one out scheme on 13:28 - Oct 11 with 1268 views | Luther27 |
| One in one out scheme on 21:02 - Oct 10 by majorraglan |
Recently, there was an interview on the radio with an ex British serviceman who runs a charity to do with migrants. To Understand the issues he went to Germany where many of the people smugglers are based to find out more about the issues and how to stop it. He spoke to a number of the people doing the smuggling and some of the people looking to come over.
After researching the issues, his views were that it was going to be almost impossible to stop. The “boat people” are told and believe a kind of Dick Whittington type story that they can come to London and almost immediately start to earn thousands and thousands of pounds. Theres no counter narrative and all they hear are the promises of a better life, endless wealth etc etc. the people smugglers don’t care because they are coining it in.
Can we stop it? I don’t know if I am being honest. The illegals who were stowing away on Lorrie’s and campervans have been stopped, but they’ve now changed tactics and are coming on dinghies. This guy did say things are likely to get worse because the smugglers had invested in much bigger boats ready for next year. I think addressing the possibility of working is the only way. |
Maybe we should prosecute and jail CEO’s who employ anyone who doesn't have a NI number for starters. A swift 5 years should send a message out. The Gang Masters should serve a minimum of 30 years without parole. If not only us and Europe made prosecution and sentencing a simple matter then it may actually stem the flood. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 13:59 - Oct 11 with 1240 views | mangohilljack |
Even more concerning is today’s discovery of a weapons cache at a migrant camp in Calais, reportedly bound for the UK. The phrase “weapons of war” suggests AK-47s and similar firearms which naturally raises the question: how many boatloads of fighting-age men have already entered the UK with their weapons undetected? After more than 20 years of unchecked crossings, one might reasonably assume there are now enough arms to equip a small army.
Where is the political will to confront this security threat at its source?
Perhaps most frustrating of all are those still waving “Refugees Welcome” placards, seemingly blind to the risks, and others who go out of their way to assist illegal entrants onto British shores and into local communities.
We’ve already seen unverified reports of weapons stashes in migrant hotels and videos of supposed migrants declaring they’ve come to “rule our country”. If even a fraction of this is true, the government’s complacency borders on negligence. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 14:35 - Oct 11 with 1205 views | max936 |
| One in one out scheme on 13:59 - Oct 11 by mangohilljack |
Even more concerning is today’s discovery of a weapons cache at a migrant camp in Calais, reportedly bound for the UK. The phrase “weapons of war” suggests AK-47s and similar firearms which naturally raises the question: how many boatloads of fighting-age men have already entered the UK with their weapons undetected? After more than 20 years of unchecked crossings, one might reasonably assume there are now enough arms to equip a small army.
Where is the political will to confront this security threat at its source?
Perhaps most frustrating of all are those still waving “Refugees Welcome” placards, seemingly blind to the risks, and others who go out of their way to assist illegal entrants onto British shores and into local communities.
We’ve already seen unverified reports of weapons stashes in migrant hotels and videos of supposed migrants declaring they’ve come to “rule our country”. If even a fraction of this is true, the government’s complacency borders on negligence. |
Id imagine that the boat arrivals are checked over for weapons, it'll be very difficult to hide an AK-47 etc. |  |
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| One in one out scheme on 14:48 - Oct 11 with 1193 views | mangohilljack |
| One in one out scheme on 14:35 - Oct 11 by max936 |
Id imagine that the boat arrivals are checked over for weapons, it'll be very difficult to hide an AK-47 etc. |
Yes, those who are known are supposedly checked or so we’re told. But I’d wager my mortgage that many more are slipping through completely unchecked.
The real danger lies in the not knowing. The security risk in the UK right now must be at its highest level in decades, yet the fool in charge does absolutely nothing to reassure the public or allay growing fears among ordinary citizens. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 16:12 - Oct 11 with 1172 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| One in one out scheme on 22:24 - Oct 10 by Whiterockin |
You do realise that the majority of cars being driven without tax, insurance and mots are illegals. They came in illegally so passports mean nothing and they deal in cash not credit or debit cards. You need to get in the real world. |
Yes and the police do not go after them. They cannot ask for ID. This must change .
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They have children no school
They gave health issues. - no doctor no prescriptions
They have cars no licence or insurance
They have homes. No accomodation without local taxes.
They have jobs.. No legal jobs with wages.
You make my point for me. People want the government to take back control but do not give them the tools to do it.
It could be that certain rules are observed during a transitional period .
You make my point for me. The country is so obsessed with personal privacy that the grifters have a very nice life using services provide by me and other taxpayer.
The world has changed the EU is tightening up. Ths migrants grifter will go wherever the rules are lax. That is Great Britain. It was Germany
Not any more.
UK is complacent. Wales is even more complacent. UK cannot check your id for civil rights reasons but employs facial id regontion and number plate recognition anyway. Let's have It out in the open. [Post edited 11 Oct 16:19]
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| One in one out scheme on 23:03 - Oct 11 with 1061 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| One in one out scheme on 01:40 - Oct 11 by Robbie |
Never ever criticise an illegal immigrant landing on UK shores these days .
You are straight away branded a racist by so many Lefties and the do gooders ,
The honest conversion by the general public will never be aired properly and the neutral stance will follow by most media outlets .
I have heard so many comments on the Hotels crisis and these illegals it beggars belief .
State it in Public though is another minefield .
A Pilipino cleaner on the Wards at Morriston Hospital Renal unit looked out and talked to my mother before my mum passed away naturally .
Question Time on the Beeb this week discussing the Welfare costs upcoming in the future years and it seems evidence of 18 years olds claimg stress issues , I am unfit for work and I want to claim my benefits .
Another quote was they start claiming at that age , why should I bother to be a janitor and get out of bed in the morning .
As per usual the decent people who want to work legally are being outnumbered by the soon incoming chancers , hey the UK is rife for Cannibis farms and car washes .
Good luck Starmer trying to close the floodgates . |
In 2024, 53 percent of households received more in benefits than they paid tax.
The current system is unsustainable, Labour will not deal with it, the Government is going to have to reset the system as we are heading the same way as France. | |
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| One in one out scheme on 08:12 - Oct 12 with 1016 views | Whiterockin |
| One in one out scheme on 23:03 - Oct 11 by JACKMANANDBOY |
In 2024, 53 percent of households received more in benefits than they paid tax.
The current system is unsustainable, Labour will not deal with it, the Government is going to have to reset the system as we are heading the same way as France. |
Are pensioners including in that statistic, I'm only asking for clarity. Because a pension is classed as a benifit. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 11:09 - Oct 12 with 950 views | max936 |
| One in one out scheme on 08:12 - Oct 12 by Whiterockin |
Are pensioners including in that statistic, I'm only asking for clarity. Because a pension is classed as a benifit. |
A well deserved benefit at that, that said it shouldn't be classed as a benefit, it should be the people's right after paying into the system by working for 40-50yrs. | |
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| One in one out scheme on 11:33 - Oct 12 with 933 views | Whiterockin |
| One in one out scheme on 11:09 - Oct 12 by max936 |
A well deserved benefit at that, that said it shouldn't be classed as a benefit, it should be the people's right after paying into the system by working for 40-50yrs. |
I'm not saying otherwise as it applies to me, but it would drastically effect the statistics if included. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 12:34 - Oct 12 with 884 views | Dr_Winston |
Once you realise that those in power for most of the last 30 years, whether Labour or Tory, whether Government, Senior Civil Service or Judiciary don't want to reduce the levels of migration then the reasons why certain decisions are made become obvious. [Post edited 12 Oct 12:34]
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| One in one out scheme on 14:51 - Oct 12 with 829 views | max936 |
| One in one out scheme on 11:33 - Oct 12 by Whiterockin |
I'm not saying otherwise as it applies to me, but it would drastically effect the statistics if included. |
I know you wasn't Whitey, I'm just saying that it shouldn't, but if those statistics favour the government they will be used to justifies their decisions etc. | |
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| One in one out scheme on 15:15 - Oct 12 with 795 views | Whiterockin |
| One in one out scheme on 14:51 - Oct 12 by max936 |
I know you wasn't Whitey, I'm just saying that it shouldn't, but if those statistics favour the government they will be used to justifies their decisions etc. |
The point is was trying to make, granted not well. Is statistics are not always as simple as they seem. Apparently there are 28.6M households in the UK. There are approximately 11.3M pensioner households. It is reasonable to assume that the majority of the pensioner households are receiving more money from the government than paying in tax. This distorts the assumption that is made when you just look a the headline statistics, its not just those who are accepted as normally accepted as benifit recipients. | | | |
| One in one out scheme on 17:20 - Oct 12 with 738 views | builthjack |
Now then. What about the 800,000 coming in through the front door every year.
Nothing gets said about them.
How very odd. |  |
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| One in one out scheme on 17:20 - Oct 12 with 740 views | Boundy |
| One in one out scheme on 21:40 - Oct 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No ID card no services. Will stop it.
No services like NHS, schooling, benefits accomodation, prescription , Car licencing, MOT road tax. passport, travel , credit card debit cards banking.
I am a taxpayer and want the digital ID card. Without these services to cannot live normally and people will volunteer to leave.
The current line is without it " you cannot work". I want to see without our it " you cannot claim any services" .
You gave to give up some privacy but there are maybe 1 m or more unregistered people in UK paying no tax and using services at taxpayers expense. |
Strange that this country which at one time was the most industries,powerful nation in the world survived without it's citizens having to carry an identity card,Any unscrupulous employer , obvious to those with a single brain cell will know there are too many , who ignore the principle of no National Insurance number then no job and you believe that someone not having a "Britcard" will no longer be able to work in some sweaty shop or Indian restaurant.This country is already on a slippery slope of too much government power over the people and you want to give them more. | |
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| One in one out scheme on 20:33 - Oct 12 with 677 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| One in one out scheme on 10:12 - Oct 11 by mangohilljack |
It’s not an empty slogan, it’s what the majority of people in the UK actually want. And let’s be honest, it’s not difficult to achieve if the government truly had the will to do it.
Digital ID as the answer? Hardly. The entire mass migration saga — ongoing for over 20 years — has been a carefully laid path towards implementing digital ID. Once that’s in place, we’ll be one step closer to a social credit system straight out of China’s playbook.
If you genuinely think that’s the solution, then you’re even more deluded than I originally thought.
As for the rest of your post not worth engaging with; it’s pure nonsense. |
I have actual experience of living under these conditions so I do not accept your analysis. Another poster that questions my personal credibility for some reason. I never do this.
I live in Turkiye for more 5 years and when I went to the town shopping for a beer or a game of billiards I carried my Passport with me.
Police had the right to ask to see my id and it happened about once a year. If you had no iD you could spend a night in the cells. You would certainly be taken in for questioning or ask to report in the police station with id within 24 hours . It was promoted as an anti Terror policy..
Turkiye issues 4m temporary iD card for Syrian refugees they called guests. Their guest cards have expired and they have to go home and understand the score. If UK leave the ECHR they can class our illegals as temporary guests and prevent them living a normal life if they will not leave voluntarily.
I accept the country knows about me and has tagged me with facial re recognition systems taken from my digital passport. My phone tells them where I go. We no longer live it the 1980s. The world has changed .
I am a taxpayer and so are most of my friends . None of us are worried about digit iD. The people worried are the illegal workers and Brits on some surt of " angle" .
UK has huge deficits wasting billions one form of scam or another. Taxpayer need to be protected as we pay for everything including interest of debt [Post edited 12 Oct 20:44]
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