| Is it Hamer time? 08:58 - Oct 26 with 3720 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Every time that ball goes in the box my heart is in my mouth, Nardi appears welded to his goal line.
Opposition have clearly done their homework on him and he is costing us points big time.
I know some will say defensively we should be better, but it must be a nightmare defending in front of him. I mean not claiming a ball in your own 6 yard box!
Maybe Hamer should have a go? |  |
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| Is it Hamer time? on 15:05 - Oct 26 with 1141 views | gazza1 |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:00 - Oct 26 by daveB |
so when he doesn't do that we all just stop and point fingers at the keeper? The defenders were allowed to continue marking Morris and had a chance to win the header across goal as well
As I say was poor all round rather than all on one person |
If the keeper deals with the 'lob' then Morris does not enter the equation......the keeper didn't and they (Morris) scored!!! | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:09 - Oct 26 with 1137 views | rbee |
Poor all round yesterday and last week but ultimately you have to look at the one person allowed to handle the ball in the penalty area, even more so the six yard box.
But as you say Dave this isn't the way Nardi plays, not one for physical contact. |  | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:22 - Oct 26 with 1036 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
Very interesting debate and like mentioned above Nardi was second or 3rd choice in July after being the clear No 1 last year so he obviously got confused/ frustrated and lost his mojo.
But Derby scored in the 9th minute and we had the entire game to get that goal back and try for the win but we did nothing so lots of finger pointing allowed .
3 points out of 9 is very dissapointing IMO |  | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:31 - Oct 26 with 1020 views | Esox_Lucius |
Coupled with an obvious flaw in his GK toolbox, Nardi is also under pressure from his defenders who, reasonably, expect him deal with those balls comfortably. Yesterday the defence was already moving out in full expectation of him taking a simple ball so I am NOT going to apportion any blame on the defence. Nardi is starting to become a liability in games and with Walsh injured, throw Salamon in, he surely can't do any worse and we've seen he can deal with high balls into the box. Poor with his feet comparatively but not the worst we've seen in recent years. He also won't get better by not playing games. [Post edited 26 Oct 18:13]
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| Is it Hamer time? on 15:33 - Oct 26 with 1015 views | rbee |
Yesterday was one of those bad days at the office where everyone didn't play their best. I can only remember Kone's header as a clear cut chance. We looked tired, out of sorts.
I think if Julien played a settled 11 it might help, too many changes for me. Play your best 11 and then deal with anything thrown at you. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:42 - Oct 26 with 985 views | daveB |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:05 - Oct 26 by gazza1 |
If the keeper deals with the 'lob' then Morris does not enter the equation......the keeper didn't and they (Morris) scored!!! |
I get that but as he doesn't and we all know thats not something he's very good at do we all just say oh well it's all his fault I won't do my job and just let him have a tap in. |  | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:42 - Oct 26 with 985 views | Northernr |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:33 - Oct 26 by rbee |
Yesterday was one of those bad days at the office where everyone didn't play their best. I can only remember Kone's header as a clear cut chance. We looked tired, out of sorts.
I think if Julien played a settled 11 it might help, too many changes for me. Play your best 11 and then deal with anything thrown at you. |
Played a game Wednesday, coach back overnight get to the training ground 3ish.
Some sort of recovery session Thursday but very little else.
Train Friday morning, back on the motorway in the Friday afternoon slog to Derby.
We’ve got another week coming up like it as well with Blackburn and Norwich away. |  | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:52 - Oct 26 with 944 views | rbee |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:42 - Oct 26 by Northernr |
Played a game Wednesday, coach back overnight get to the training ground 3ish.
Some sort of recovery session Thursday but very little else.
Train Friday morning, back on the motorway in the Friday afternoon slog to Derby.
We’ve got another week coming up like it as well with Blackburn and Norwich away. |
I would check players in to a hotel after a game and head back in the morning or head directly to the next location, keep travel to a minimum, train somewhere local on the Friday. | | | |
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| Is it Hamer time? on 16:18 - Oct 26 with 874 views | Northernr |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:52 - Oct 26 by rbee |
I would check players in to a hotel after a game and head back in the morning or head directly to the next location, keep travel to a minimum, train somewhere local on the Friday. |
Perhaps they did/will. But whatever you do you’re going to be spending a lot of time on the motorway. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 16:25 - Oct 26 with 830 views | JamesB1979 |
I got back at 2am Thursday and was still feeling tired on Saturday after working Thursday and Friday. Not an excuse for yesterday but does make you think what muppets put this schedule together. Surely if we have to play 2 away games in a row, you make sure they are as far apart as possible. So why don’t we play on Tuesday at Swansea? | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 16:48 - Oct 26 with 770 views | Myke |
| Is it Hamer time? on 14:13 - Oct 26 by Northernr |
Nardi’s got a known flaw in his game (if you’re playing for QPR there’s something wrong with you etc etc) that has been picked up on by the rest of the division since the first round of fixtures last season. He’s in poor form atm and cost us a goal yesterday and another at Sheff Wed (I’m still not having him as responsible for that Millwall one though).
A new more commanding goalkeeper will improve the team, and I’m sure they’ll do that if not in January then next summer. They’ve actually been pretty good of late at pinpointing weaknesses in the team and signing good solutions.
One thing that was said several times at the fans forum was all of this support staff is there “to put people in the best position possible to succeed”. Is bringing your first choice keeper back for pre season and telling him he’s being demoted for the youth team keeper, not wanted any more, free to find another club, then end up relying on him for 40 matches doing that? He’s lost a lot of confidence versus this time last year, which you probably would too. Not the first time we’ve done it either - same thing happened with Paal last year and his form dropped as well. |
All this is true, Clive. Unusual how they have learned from some of their mistakes (transfers) and not from others (binning off a player without actually moving him on). But I wonder have we written off Walsh prematurely? I am a fan, but I know he struggled with the ball at his feet when attempting to play out from the back (he wasn't alone). Now that they have dispensed with this 'game model' I think he could thrive. Strong, and commands his area, really well. Not as good a shot stopper as Nardi I concede, but still young enough (unlike Nardi), to work on the weaker aspects of his game. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 16:53 - Oct 26 with 750 views | kensalriser |
U Can't Catch This. |  |
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| Is it Hamer time? on 17:02 - Oct 26 with 718 views | JamesB1979 |
| Is it Hamer time? on 14:13 - Oct 26 by Northernr |
Nardi’s got a known flaw in his game (if you’re playing for QPR there’s something wrong with you etc etc) that has been picked up on by the rest of the division since the first round of fixtures last season. He’s in poor form atm and cost us a goal yesterday and another at Sheff Wed (I’m still not having him as responsible for that Millwall one though).
A new more commanding goalkeeper will improve the team, and I’m sure they’ll do that if not in January then next summer. They’ve actually been pretty good of late at pinpointing weaknesses in the team and signing good solutions.
One thing that was said several times at the fans forum was all of this support staff is there “to put people in the best position possible to succeed”. Is bringing your first choice keeper back for pre season and telling him he’s being demoted for the youth team keeper, not wanted any more, free to find another club, then end up relying on him for 40 matches doing that? He’s lost a lot of confidence versus this time last year, which you probably would too. Not the first time we’ve done it either - same thing happened with Paal last year and his form dropped as well. |
I don’t buy that last point. They’re professional footballers. They shouldn’t expect to be the first choice in their position all the time. If you get dropped then fight to get back in. Cook has, for the most part, stepped up from a poor start. He was not going to be a starter if JCS had come back fit. Nardi was poor on crosses last year. He does seem worse this season but he should work on crosses. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 17:31 - Oct 26 with 638 views | flynnbo |
| Is it Hamer time? on 17:02 - Oct 26 by JamesB1979 |
I don’t buy that last point. They’re professional footballers. They shouldn’t expect to be the first choice in their position all the time. If you get dropped then fight to get back in. Cook has, for the most part, stepped up from a poor start. He was not going to be a starter if JCS had come back fit. Nardi was poor on crosses last year. He does seem worse this season but he should work on crosses. |
Maybe a cheeky bid for the England keeper, Jordan Pickford? Oh hang on, he doesn’t command his 6 yard box. |  | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 17:43 - Oct 26 with 610 views | numptydumpty |
Nardi is ok but has weaknesses, and likewise Walsh.
We seem to have loaned out Mahoney Cooper where by all accounts down a level, he has done well and got good reviews. is it possible to recall him, or is a goalkeeper to be our main target in the January window.
Nardi does some things well and others not so, but we not.conceded massive amounts of goals since.Nardi has been in goal and since he has come back, less than a goal a game. Nardi has eight appearances and we have conceded six goals. So goals conceded is 0.75 goals per game.
Not too shabby all round tbf. |  |
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| Is it Hamer time? on 18:12 - Oct 26 with 541 views | dmm |
| Is it Hamer time? on 16:48 - Oct 26 by Myke |
All this is true, Clive. Unusual how they have learned from some of their mistakes (transfers) and not from others (binning off a player without actually moving him on). But I wonder have we written off Walsh prematurely? I am a fan, but I know he struggled with the ball at his feet when attempting to play out from the back (he wasn't alone). Now that they have dispensed with this 'game model' I think he could thrive. Strong, and commands his area, really well. Not as good a shot stopper as Nardi I concede, but still young enough (unlike Nardi), to work on the weaker aspects of his game. |
Playing out from the back hasn't been binned completely. It is still done, just on fewer occasions and Nardi seems now to have license to go long. |  | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 18:20 - Oct 26 with 521 views | paulhoop2 |
Ridiculous suggestion Ben Hamer has always been a sold back up to cover for the odd suspension or injury hes way past it was only signed as a panic option | |
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| Is it Hamer time? on 18:59 - Oct 26 with 427 views | qpr1976 |
We seem to have had a plethora of coaches over recent years.
Surely the GK coach should be working with Nardi to improve him, to teach and encourage him to come off his line ? Is Nardi a better keeper now ?
Not just GK’s, how many experienced players have we signed and actually improved during their time with us ? (Since Eze).
eg. Bould is highly rated. Anyone think Dunne, Cook, Morrison have improved ?
What about Field, Chair, Varane, Frey ?
Surely we should see some of them improve, they haven’t all peaked, have they ? | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 19:31 - Oct 26 with 372 views | Gus_iom |
| Is it Hamer time? on 14:42 - Oct 26 by BrianMcCarthy |
Well, Gus often points out that Nardi on shot stopping last season was 20th of 25 keepers who played 10 or more games, and the LFW podcast brought up the same point, while also saying that his figures are better so far this season. That all tallies with they eye test as well, I think.
It's a long time until the January window, we can only hope that his form picks up. |
Ha ha, McCarthy takes his revenge 🤣 🤣🤣 | |
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| Is it Hamer time? on 19:37 - Oct 26 with 354 views | daveB |
| Is it Hamer time? on 17:02 - Oct 26 by JamesB1979 |
I don’t buy that last point. They’re professional footballers. They shouldn’t expect to be the first choice in their position all the time. If you get dropped then fight to get back in. Cook has, for the most part, stepped up from a poor start. He was not going to be a starter if JCS had come back fit. Nardi was poor on crosses last year. He does seem worse this season but he should work on crosses. |
It's more that Nardi was told he had no future here same as Paal last summer so when they are then called upon and made first choice again as the replacements were crap the confidence is knocked as they know they are not wanted and mistakes creep in. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 19:45 - Oct 26 with 329 views | JamesB1979 |
| Is it Hamer time? on 19:37 - Oct 26 by daveB |
It's more that Nardi was told he had no future here same as Paal last summer so when they are then called upon and made first choice again as the replacements were crap the confidence is knocked as they know they are not wanted and mistakes creep in. |
Were we trying to get rid of him? I thought he was told he was going to be number 2 to Walsh. In any event, as footballers, that’s exactly type of thing they have to deal with. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 20:53 - Oct 26 with 216 views | gazza1 |
Just listened to the Hoopster post.......have a listen to the first few minutes Dave and his comments about the goal that we conceded. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 20:55 - Oct 26 with 204 views | gazza1 |
| Is it Hamer time? on 15:42 - Oct 26 by daveB |
I get that but as he doesn't and we all know thats not something he's very good at do we all just say oh well it's all his fault I won't do my job and just let him have a tap in. |
I have just listened to the Hoopster post.......have a listen to the first few minutes Dave and his comments about the goal that we conceded. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 21:08 - Oct 26 with 153 views | Northernr |
| Is it Hamer time? on 17:02 - Oct 26 by JamesB1979 |
I don’t buy that last point. They’re professional footballers. They shouldn’t expect to be the first choice in their position all the time. If you get dropped then fight to get back in. Cook has, for the most part, stepped up from a poor start. He was not going to be a starter if JCS had come back fit. Nardi was poor on crosses last year. He does seem worse this season but he should work on crosses. |
You don't buy that it may have some effect upon a person's confidence, esteem and ability to do their job that upon returning to work after a summer holiday your boss turns round to you and says actually we think you're pony, we're replacing you with the work experience lad and you should look for a new employer ASAP, and then turns round six weeks later and says actually we do want you now after all can you just go back to doing what you were doing before please?
They're professional footballers, but they're still human.
Like I say, this is a re-run of what happened with Paal - another flawed but pretty reliable squad member who was got at last season. | | | |
| Is it Hamer time? on 21:21 - Oct 26 with 114 views | JamesB1979 |
| Is it Hamer time? on 21:08 - Oct 26 by Northernr |
You don't buy that it may have some effect upon a person's confidence, esteem and ability to do their job that upon returning to work after a summer holiday your boss turns round to you and says actually we think you're pony, we're replacing you with the work experience lad and you should look for a new employer ASAP, and then turns round six weeks later and says actually we do want you now after all can you just go back to doing what you were doing before please?
They're professional footballers, but they're still human.
Like I say, this is a re-run of what happened with Paal - another flawed but pretty reliable squad member who was got at last season. |
It’s nothing like being replaced by the work experience lad. Footballers get dropped all the time and have to fight to get back in the side / squad. I’m not saying it hasn’t had an impact on him, who knows. Same thing happened to Cook and he’s reacted well. The issues with Nardi this season are same as last. More clubs just aware of it. | | | |
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