| FGR 09:44 - Jul 5 with 17745 views | loftboy |
Appoint a female manager, social media already full of full on sexist comments, surely if she has the qualifications and the confidence to do the job then that’s all that matters? |  |
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| FGR on 14:46 - Jul 5 with 2510 views | FredManRave |
| FGR on 14:39 - Jul 5 by Antti_Heinola |
Is it possible to think about cocks too much? |
Is it bollocks?!
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| FGR on 14:47 - Jul 5 with 2438 views | Sakura |
| FGR on 13:09 - Jul 5 by daveB |
That wasn't the US Womens team that lost to Wrexham and those under 15 teams, that was made up of former players and a few young kids
I went to the womens FA Cup Final and thought the standard was pretty good, very skillful and lot less physical but was pretty good. We'd struggle to beat some of them but that's not really an issue.
She won't be bringing female players with her to manage it will be a mens team but have a woman picking it so don't see an issue really. No different to someone managing in league 2 with crap players then working their way to the Champions League like Eddie Howe has done, you just adapt to players you are working with |
The FC Dallas U15’s absolute was the US women’s first team. Same when u16 Gremio team beat Brazils women’s team
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13733060/gremio-men-team-brazil-women-na
Aside from the obvious physical differences the technical level is with some special exceptions just generally lower because so many fewer women play the game
To pretend that it isn’t a very low standard by comparison makes it seem those who deny that reality are just virtue signalling.
But if someone can explain why Bosh is justified in saying that this female coach he rates so much is going to be Premier League in two years. Other than virtue signalling, what makes him say that? What makes her stand out compared to the other thousands of coaches working with a similar standard?
I know literally nothing about her so I am genuinely interested to find out if there was any substance behind Bosh’s statement or if it was just virtue signalling [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 14:51]
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| FGR on 14:47 - Jul 5 with 2504 views | Antti_Heinola |
| FGR on 13:23 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
Do they? I pass the DPD Depot on the Great West industrial estate quite regularly and I haven't seen any electric vans. Wonder where they all are? Out on photo opportunities?
I was speaking with a renewable energy scientist at Kings Cambridge recently who maintained driving a 1920s British Motorcycle was in fact greener than driving a modern electric Triumph alternative, based purely on the emissions created by the production of the machine. The emissions created by a new electric vehicle are enormous, would need to drive your old Triumph around for decades to come close to it. Something you rarely hear when discussing electric vehicles.
And electric actually works really well for bikes. For vans, HGVs (Basically anything larger/heavier than a smart car), Hydrogen is a far more realistic prospect for a 'Green' future. |
I was speaking to a renewable energy scientist at Oxford last week and he said there's much debate about all that, particularly your final point, and directed me to this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/08/fact-check-why-rowan-atkinso
A year ago, a quarter of DPD's fleet was electric.
https://www.geopost.com/en/news/dpd-uk-adds-1-000-ford-e-transits-to-green-fleet
And:
'The parcel service DPD is making faster progress than planned with the electrification of its UK fleet. DPD currently offers an all-electric delivery service in ten UK cities and aims to do so in 30 locations by the end of 2023. This is five more than originally planned and two years earlier than previously expected.
In October 2020, DPD vowed to decarbonise operations across the UK and Europe, saying it would aim for only electric vehicles to deliver shipments in 25 UK cities by 2025. With around 5,000 electric vehicles across 30 cities by the end of 2023, this target is to be surpassed much sooner.' |  |
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| FGR on 15:02 - Jul 5 with 2439 views | Konk |
| FGR on 13:46 - Jul 5 by QPR_John |
Maybe not insurmountable but a problem never the less. The dressing room culture I would suggest in men’s football is somewhat different from women’s football. |
You might have to say goodbye to the Richard Keys “hanging out the back of if” megabantz and you might feel uncomfortable recounting stories in front of your female boss, about you sha gging drunk teenagers with your mates watching, but I’m not sure that would be too much of a loss to the game. That said, I can’t imagine someone like Pep or Arteta gathering round with the players to watch DIY porn on someone’s phone either.
I know lots of women - including my wife - who are very happy to give as good as they get when it comes to pi ss-taking. Just don’t think it need be a huge problem. Arsenal players thought Wengee was a joke at first, but quickly came round to him when they could see how much he was helping them. Think it would largely be the same with a female coach - do a good job and people would hopefully appreciate that. |  |
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| FGR on 15:03 - Jul 5 with 2435 views | slmrstid |
I was speaking to a renewable energy scientist at Bash Street University last week and he said it is not, in fact, possible for mushrooms to grow on feet, regardless of what the Beano may have suggested over the decades.
Although if they could it would solve a lot of the world's food supply issues. |  | | |
| FGR on 15:14 - Jul 5 with 2336 views | SheffieldHoop |
| FGR on 14:47 - Jul 5 by Antti_Heinola |
I was speaking to a renewable energy scientist at Oxford last week and he said there's much debate about all that, particularly your final point, and directed me to this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/08/fact-check-why-rowan-atkinso
A year ago, a quarter of DPD's fleet was electric.
https://www.geopost.com/en/news/dpd-uk-adds-1-000-ford-e-transits-to-green-fleet
And:
'The parcel service DPD is making faster progress than planned with the electrification of its UK fleet. DPD currently offers an all-electric delivery service in ten UK cities and aims to do so in 30 locations by the end of 2023. This is five more than originally planned and two years earlier than previously expected.
In October 2020, DPD vowed to decarbonise operations across the UK and Europe, saying it would aim for only electric vehicles to deliver shipments in 25 UK cities by 2025. With around 5,000 electric vehicles across 30 cities by the end of 2023, this target is to be surpassed much sooner.' |
No, you didn't. You googled a crappy activist-written Guardian article to do the heavy lifting for you. Very LFW.
Even your desperate attempts to defend DPD and their 'greenwashing' (Weird flex but ok) are falling flat. The emissions created in the production of electric vans will far outstrip the emissions that wouldn't be created if you didn't produce them. There are more effective ways to reduce carbon emissions than building a factory to provide a production line of EVs. |  |
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| FGR on 15:17 - Jul 5 with 2321 views | Sakura |
| FGR on 14:47 - Jul 5 by Antti_Heinola |
I was speaking to a renewable energy scientist at Oxford last week and he said there's much debate about all that, particularly your final point, and directed me to this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/08/fact-check-why-rowan-atkinso
A year ago, a quarter of DPD's fleet was electric.
https://www.geopost.com/en/news/dpd-uk-adds-1-000-ford-e-transits-to-green-fleet
And:
'The parcel service DPD is making faster progress than planned with the electrification of its UK fleet. DPD currently offers an all-electric delivery service in ten UK cities and aims to do so in 30 locations by the end of 2023. This is five more than originally planned and two years earlier than previously expected.
In October 2020, DPD vowed to decarbonise operations across the UK and Europe, saying it would aim for only electric vehicles to deliver shipments in 25 UK cities by 2025. With around 5,000 electric vehicles across 30 cities by the end of 2023, this target is to be surpassed much sooner.' |
All electric fleets?! That's terrible for the 'green' intentions. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and plays into the big business Green myths
No car or certainly van should be entirely electric but should be a hybrid
Battery materials are made of rare materials which cause of a lot of pollution when being mined and processed and are currently available in a very finite amount.
Also the battery's are very heavy and so require more energy to move the vehicle than a standard engine
Most journeys are under 20 miles so a hybrid vehicle can account for this and then conventional engine for longer journeys is 'greener'
It would be much much better for the environment if the existing fleet was used for as long as possible and not produce an electric car with the huge environmental impact that comes with | | | |
| FGR on 15:18 - Jul 5 with 2384 views | dmm |
| FGR on 14:26 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
OK? Are you asking me, or just virtue signalling? |
I'm fine, thanks for asking.
To reply; neither. Look closely and you'll find no question mark. It was a statement of my incredulity at the idea a woman could not deal with someone like Mendy.
Hope that helps. |  | | |
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| FGR on 15:26 - Jul 5 with 2368 views | robith |
| FGR on 12:19 - Jul 5 by Gloucs_R |
I don't like any type of politics in football.
Isn't that the stance of most genuine supporters? |
The use of "genuine" here is some fantastic confirmation bias |  | | |
| FGR on 15:27 - Jul 5 with 2308 views | SheffieldHoop |
| FGR on 15:17 - Jul 5 by Sakura |
All electric fleets?! That's terrible for the 'green' intentions. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and plays into the big business Green myths
No car or certainly van should be entirely electric but should be a hybrid
Battery materials are made of rare materials which cause of a lot of pollution when being mined and processed and are currently available in a very finite amount.
Also the battery's are very heavy and so require more energy to move the vehicle than a standard engine
Most journeys are under 20 miles so a hybrid vehicle can account for this and then conventional engine for longer journeys is 'greener'
It would be much much better for the environment if the existing fleet was used for as long as possible and not produce an electric car with the huge environmental impact that comes with |
I like you Sakura. You're one of the few people on here who appears to live in the real world, not inside the pages of the Guardian opinion section. | |
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| FGR on 15:29 - Jul 5 with 2358 views | Boston |
| FGR on 13:09 - Jul 5 by daveB |
That wasn't the US Womens team that lost to Wrexham and those under 15 teams, that was made up of former players and a few young kids
I went to the womens FA Cup Final and thought the standard was pretty good, very skillful and lot less physical but was pretty good. We'd struggle to beat some of them but that's not really an issue.
She won't be bringing female players with her to manage it will be a mens team but have a woman picking it so don't see an issue really. No different to someone managing in league 2 with crap players then working their way to the Champions League like Eddie Howe has done, you just adapt to players you are working with |
I know nothing of the Wrexham fixture, but you are wrong on the Dallas U-15 match. First, let us remember that the game was a training exercise prior to a competition (forget which one), and I doubt the US women were risking injury, but the teams involved and the score line are accurate. I read a report at the time and it was, as I recall, a lighthearted affair, working on technicalities, all the usual practice stuff. I also recall that many of the boys were actually 14, but the point is, the US women have lost many times to youngsters, and by bigger margins, it just doesn't get reported because they are, in effect, friendly warm ups for an approaching 'big game'.
My thoughts are, having watched football at all levels in this country, if the US Womens team played a competitive fixture against any men's college team, they would suffer a heavy defeat. I'd think they'd have their work cut out against most high schools actually. BTW, half those youngsters never progressed any further than the Dallas youth system. | |
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| FGR on 15:31 - Jul 5 with 2358 views | R_from_afar |
| FGR on 15:14 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
No, you didn't. You googled a crappy activist-written Guardian article to do the heavy lifting for you. Very LFW.
Even your desperate attempts to defend DPD and their 'greenwashing' (Weird flex but ok) are falling flat. The emissions created in the production of electric vans will far outstrip the emissions that wouldn't be created if you didn't produce them. There are more effective ways to reduce carbon emissions than building a factory to provide a production line of EVs. |
"No, you didn't. You googled a crappy activist-written Guardian article to do the heavy lifting for you. Very LFW.".
The author might be an activist as well as a deputy editor and policy editor - I have no idea - but he has some strong academic qualifications. He has a PhD in biochemistry from Bristol University and previously studied chemistry at Oxford University. |  |
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| FGR on 15:53 - Jul 5 with 2241 views | SheffieldHoop |
| FGR on 15:31 - Jul 5 by R_from_afar |
"No, you didn't. You googled a crappy activist-written Guardian article to do the heavy lifting for you. Very LFW.".
The author might be an activist as well as a deputy editor and policy editor - I have no idea - but he has some strong academic qualifications. He has a PhD in biochemistry from Bristol University and previously studied chemistry at Oxford University. |
So what you're saying is, you agree?
The chap I had my conversation with is a renewable energy scientist researching catalysts for energy conversion and storage reactions, especially the synthesis of fuels from solar power. Also a current fellow at Kings, Cambridge. I didn't ask a question at a conference or something, I was invited to Kings for dinner and to talk about using renewable fuels in the ongoing preservation of historic IC engines.
Antti got his bit from the Guardian. | |
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| FGR on 16:51 - Jul 5 with 2184 views | daveB |
| FGR on 14:47 - Jul 5 by Sakura |
The FC Dallas U15’s absolute was the US women’s first team. Same when u16 Gremio team beat Brazils women’s team
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13733060/gremio-men-team-brazil-women-na
Aside from the obvious physical differences the technical level is with some special exceptions just generally lower because so many fewer women play the game
To pretend that it isn’t a very low standard by comparison makes it seem those who deny that reality are just virtue signalling.
But if someone can explain why Bosh is justified in saying that this female coach he rates so much is going to be Premier League in two years. Other than virtue signalling, what makes him say that? What makes her stand out compared to the other thousands of coaches working with a similar standard?
I know literally nothing about her so I am genuinely interested to find out if there was any substance behind Bosh’s statement or if it was just virtue signalling [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 14:51]
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It's like saying the standard is lower in the Championship compared to the champions league. Of course it is but it's still watchable. |  | | |
| FGR on 17:20 - Jul 5 with 2081 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| FGR on 15:17 - Jul 5 by Sakura |
All electric fleets?! That's terrible for the 'green' intentions. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and plays into the big business Green myths
No car or certainly van should be entirely electric but should be a hybrid
Battery materials are made of rare materials which cause of a lot of pollution when being mined and processed and are currently available in a very finite amount.
Also the battery's are very heavy and so require more energy to move the vehicle than a standard engine
Most journeys are under 20 miles so a hybrid vehicle can account for this and then conventional engine for longer journeys is 'greener'
It would be much much better for the environment if the existing fleet was used for as long as possible and not produce an electric car with the huge environmental impact that comes with |
Not forgetting the electricity needed to charge them. Currently only 40% of the grid is generated from renewables. Were the nation to convert to EVs overnight, the grid would not cope without burning more fossil fuels.
P.S. How did a thread on a female manager morph into a debate on EVs??? |  | | |
| FGR on 17:20 - Jul 5 with 2112 views | distortR |
| FGR on 14:39 - Jul 5 by Antti_Heinola |
Is it possible to think about cocks too much? |
Oh, it really is. Northern was, like, cocks this and cocks that, banging on about cocks, writing articles about cocks, and then we signed Paal instead. | | | |
| FGR on 17:25 - Jul 5 with 2087 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Wow! Doxxing comrade? Must have hit a nerve : ) |  | | |
| FGR on 17:27 - Jul 5 with 2039 views | SheffieldHoop |
| FGR on 17:25 - Jul 5 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Wow! Doxxing comrade? Must have hit a nerve : ) |
Well, it's occurring to me that you might be stalking me on social media, so thought I'd make you aware that we can all do a bit of that. | |
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| FGR on 17:31 - Jul 5 with 2040 views | Benny_the_Ball |
I've no issue with a female managing a male team. Good luck to Hannah Dingley. However, let's not pretend that the standard of the women's game is high. Compared to their male counterparts, the WPL is non-league at best. | | | |
| FGR on 17:36 - Jul 5 with 2057 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| FGR on 17:27 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
Well, it's occurring to me that you might be stalking me on social media, so thought I'd make you aware that we can all do a bit of that. |
I think we both know that is desperate bullshit mate. | | | |
| FGR on 17:53 - Jul 5 with 1983 views | SheffieldHoop |
| FGR on 17:36 - Jul 5 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I think we both know that is desperate bullshit mate. |
I think we both know more than we're letting on, so let's leave it there. | |
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| FGR on 17:54 - Jul 5 with 1975 views | Sakura |
| FGR on 16:51 - Jul 5 by daveB |
It's like saying the standard is lower in the Championship compared to the champions league. Of course it is but it's still watchable. |
Maybe so but that's not relevant to the question I raised though which was around Bosh's comment that he believed this female coach he named would be in the Prem within two years
I pointed out the fact that an average U15's low level academy side would beat a top national level women's side so to me that seems a huge leap
And in that context I asked what was it that Bosh could point to back up his opinion. How could he be so sure about this considering she works at such a low standard of football that there are thousands of other coaches at the same or higher level
And to be clear my point is in no way a comment about a female manager ever being good enough. Of course they are. My question is around looking for what substance Bosh's comment was based on around this one specific person he claims to rate so highly and if it was anything more than just virtue signalling [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 17:57]
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| FGR on 18:05 - Jul 5 with 1977 views | Antti_Heinola |
| FGR on 15:14 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
No, you didn't. You googled a crappy activist-written Guardian article to do the heavy lifting for you. Very LFW.
Even your desperate attempts to defend DPD and their 'greenwashing' (Weird flex but ok) are falling flat. The emissions created in the production of electric vans will far outstrip the emissions that wouldn't be created if you didn't produce them. There are more effective ways to reduce carbon emissions than building a factory to provide a production line of EVs. |
I can't believe you saw through my sneaky lie :). But then, when people make up stuff to bolster their argumentds it can be easy to see through can't it?
I'm not 'defending' anything or anyone, and certainly not with any desperation. Those are the facts of what DPD is doing, which are a tiny bit more informed than someone saying 'i looked in their car park and could immediately tell none of their vans were electric'.
As for the Guardian, it was an article with different views/opinions/calculations/sources written in response to an article written in... The Guardian. I don't really understand how anyone is supposed to argue any point without citing evidence and sources unless you're an actual expert in a particular field, and even experts rely on actual data. Not really sure how it's very LFW either? What on earth does that mean? | |
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| FGR on 18:13 - Jul 5 with 2317 views | essextaxiboy |
| FGR on 17:53 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
I think we both know more than we're letting on, so let's leave it there. |
Having agreed that i think you should delete your post . |  | | |
| FGR on 18:21 - Jul 5 with 2287 views | makaveli1882 |
| FGR on 09:51 - Jul 5 by Gloucs_R |
Their owner is an attention seeking knob!! |
Didn't have to go far down the thread to see the correct answer.
No problem with women in football playing, coaching or commentary but this is a PR stunt.
Would love to go there for our annual 2-1 FA Cup defeat with a Balti pie in my pocket, joke club!! | | | |
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